MMA Quick Quote: When in doubt, fake an injury

"There’s loopholes in everybody’s game, and in his game, the way I see it, he can sometimes get a little sloppy. He is a patient guy, but when he feels that he has to give, he kind of rushes it a little bit. Just on that, I can kinda set him up for a knockout just by faking an injury or something, just jump in and out his offense a little more than not. Hit and move. Hit and move. Fedor, he’s definitely done and proved to the world that he’s capable of doing whatever he needs to to get the job done. That right there –- that’s the type of fighter that I’m looking forward to fighting because it’s all about testing your might and he’s definitely got it to test."
Undefeated heavyweight wrecking machine Brett Rogers tells Sherdog.com that he anticipates capitalizing on a "sloppy" former PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko when the two clash this Fall for the Strikeforce promotion on Showtime. "Da Grim" has taken a serious step up in competition after knocking out Andrei Arlovski at the "Lawler vs. Shields" event back in June. Is he ready to dethrone "The Last Emperor?" Or will Emelianenko drop the iron curtain on the aspiring heavyweight? Time will tell…
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Telling everyone your strategy prior to a fight (esp one this big)probably isn’t the brightest idea.
by DSmith on Sep 4, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well he’s hopin to catch fedor smelling blood and comin in for the finish which is dumb coz Fedor’s intensity never changes. Fedor rd1 KO.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 4, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like: Fedor ‘during entrance walk’ KO.
by R3b3L iNk on Sep 4, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either Rogers repeats the Arlofski bid and just comes forward charging and destroys Fedor’s face (highly unlikely because of the lack of glass chin ), or its lights out later in round 1 for Rogers.
by Skope on Sep 4, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RODGERS! RODGERS!
KO by Rodgers
by JeremyJackscan on Sep 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah! His a@@ will be changing tires again after the embarassment he’s about to endure! But, I’ll tell you what! I would love to play poker with him for money since he’s showing his hand!
by Dana's a CrossDresser on Sep 4, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO at Rogers calling Fedor sloppy. This from a guy who’s footwork is reminiscent of Andre the Giant trying to catch a squirrel.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, and he’s a guy that have one of the worst sloppy stand up in the game.
by Alpha Male on Sep 4, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers has the chance to be a top 5 HW who knows…
by MikeD on Sep 4, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he does make it to the top-5 (he won’t), he’ll still be shuffling his feet like a zombie the whole way there.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Sylvia would beat Rogers at this point in time.
by jayshogun on Sep 4, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
@striker dave – from what i have read k-dog hasnt missed your point at all, dudes just objecting to you suggesting that randleman is a power puncher. I agree with him.
by LBS on Sep 4, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just LMAO so hard at that JJ, my head actually hurts.
In the words of the great comic Russel Peters, “somebody gonna get hurt real bad”
by UFC Champ on Sep 4, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA.
Have a great weekend, boyz!
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know what Rogers’s skill set is? I was trying to look it up online but cannot find it. I know he can punch well and has major KO power but I was wondering if he has a wrestling or BJJ background or any other art. Any info would be appriciated. Thanks.
by ProKev on Sep 4, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fake an injury? Why not just play dead, and when Fedor turns his back, attack!
by Fred on Sep 4, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes when you play dead, the bear still decides to chew on you.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL…nice. On a bit of a roll today aren’t you?
by chefdaddy on Sep 4, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor’s first actual loss will be to Rogers.
by CaptainAmerica on Sep 4, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what exactly are you basing this on? Or is this a “punchers chance” prediction?
Only a complete imbecile would really believe Rogers WILL beat Fedor. How can anyone actually think Rogers is better than Fedor? Anything can happen sure, but ON EVEN MONEY, who would bet on Rogers??
Fedor’s gonna remind everyone why he’s #1. Rogers shouldn’t even be infront of Fedor, he’s gonna get clowned.
by Stryker on Sep 4, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not hyping him. I just think that Fedor is past his prime. Rogers does have one thing that Fedor’s past opponents have not had—one punch ko power. Don’t even bring up Cro-Cop! Rogers has great take down defense as well. Fedor can only beat him on the ground and I don’t see it going there so it is only a matter of time before Rogers ko’s him. Seems like all the greats fall to someone you would never expect and this has the recipe to follow history.
by CaptainAmerica on Sep 4, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to be clear…was it the 36 second destruction of Sylvia or the 3 minute murder of AA that make you think he is past his prime?
I guess, yeah, a guy who is whipping former champs that are just a few fights out of title fights is all washed up.
And I will bring up Crocop. You say Fedor hasn’t faced Rogers power yet…yeah, Crocop isn’t a KO waiting to happen. Ask Fedor’s brother. But Fedor has also fought, Randleman, Goodridge, oh and 3 time K1 champ Semmy Schilt. I guess you’re right, Fedor is untested against power punchers. While Rogers on the other hand has faced nothing but top competition…other than the flash KO of AA, he has faced guys like Ron Humphrey and Jon Murphy in his recent fights.
No, your right Captain America, Fedor is past his prime and has never faced competition like Rogers. Also, you are right about his lack of experience against power punchers. While Rogers on the other hand is deep with experience and faced guys like Fedor his whole career. A true enigma….like Machida almost.
by Striker Dave on Sep 4, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cap what are you talking about. I am no fan of Fedor for a few reasons, but I have always said he is an amazing fighter. Rogers stands a punchers chance. Fedor would need to make a huge mistake to lose this fight. I can see Fedor KOing Rogers as he is coming in head hunting, despirate to take his only chance.
To already be talking strageties like faking an injury shows where his mind is at. Next he will be spitting his mouth piece out on purpose to get the ref to give him time.
by ASR on Sep 4, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor’s gonna remind everyone why he’s #1? LOL Beatin Rodgers wont do shit for his ranking. I honsetly have a hunch that the Fedor legand is goin to die. I dont see any way for Rodgers to win other than a KO. I know Fedor doesnt have a glass jaw, but something tells me Fedor finaly gets beat ( just a hunch ) I know Fedor is the better fighter but hey shit happens, when you dodge the best orginization, with the most talent.
by LOKIE on Sep 4, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is a legit threat. He is better than anyone in UFC heavyweight division with exception of NOG. Fedor will win but it will be a great fight
by RamJ on Sep 4, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah okay bud, lesnar would take him down instantly
by Jared on Sep 4, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don’t understand what all the hype for Brett Rogers is all about. I know that he is undefeated and stopped all of his opponents but I don’t think we have EVER seen him on the ground. And yeah he got Arlvoski but NOBODY gave him a chance in that fight and when I say nobody, I include Arlovski. Rogers has a punchers chance with Fedor just like he did with Arlovski. I still think Fedor will be too quick for him on the feet and will be overwhelming on the ground. Time will tell but this is just how I see things playing out.
by RyanHobbs on Sep 4, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“and get tapped”
LMAO Shogun, that was good. Do you do encores??
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shogun, Lesnar would get tapped by Rogers? Your reading comprehension is horrible. Unless you actually believe that, then I just feel sorry for you.
by BNF on Sep 4, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys guys guys. Brett Rogers probably has much better BJJ than Frank Mir. You can tell by how many times we haven’t seen him on the ground. Yawn. Time for me to go. This sarcasm has been fun. For everyone living in reality and knocking that Fedor is going to destroy Rogers, good job in not buying the hype. LATER
by RyanHobbs on Sep 4, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MAN ROGERS WILL SLAP A TRIANGLE ON LESNAR SO FAST HIS HEAD WILL SPIN!!!
by d*locc on Sep 4, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers won’t have to fake an injury. He’ll be experiencing plenty of real ones.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Fedor is sloppy, a sloppy starching of Arlovski, a real messy, disgusting right hand and choke out of Sylvia, and he sure sh*t his pants against Coleman, Cro Cop, Nog, and the list goes on and on.
Yeah, sloppy.
punchers chance, that is all he has.
Fedor, first round choke out.
by the Slovak on Sep 4, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO Shogun, that was good. Do you do encores??
i heard you do bachlor parties, and bachlors.
by shogun on Sep 4, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shogun, Lesnar would get tapped by Rogers? Your reading comprehension is horrible.
yes it is.
by shogun on Sep 4, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ramj – HUH! Rogers is Strikeforces version of Carwin without the wrestling. So one dimensional it is sad.
Shogun – I hope you were kidding about Rogers submitting Lesnar.
by ASR on Sep 4, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is better than anyone in the UFC HW division??? Please remind me who he has beaten, besides Arlovski? Oh wait, you’re right, he beat Ron Humphrey and Jon Murphy, lol.
I’d put most of the UFC heavyweights over Rogers. Don’t put too much weight on Sherdog rankings, sometimes they’re a little retarded.
Rogers is gonna look like the cow in Jurassic Park.
by Stryker on Sep 4, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the looks of this seasons TUF I think the UFC HW division is about to get a lot more interesting. Marcus Jones is huge; I was watching that video in the earlier thread on him and he said “6’6 ft, 272 lbs” thats a real HW right there.
by O damn he got caught on Sep 4, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to keep posting this on threads, but I don’t wanna be known as a wagon jumper when Brandon straub runs thru the tuf 10 house.
He’s the next big thing IMO.
by Daniel worby on Sep 4, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stryker — Agreed! Didn’t we just watch Rogers’ twin (Tim Hague) get KO’d in 7 seconds at UFC 102? Similar body size, similar reach, etc. I know Todd Duffee is Hulk Junior. but still. Hey, I’d like to see Rogers vs. Tim Hague! Or Rogers vs. Ben Rothwell. Sigh. Those would be fun to watch. The only fun watching Fedor vs. Rogers will be how quickly it ends with Fedor getting his hand raised.
by MMACrossfire on Sep 4, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other news Rashad vs Rampage is officially off 107 apparently!
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Search me pal, early next year now probably.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, dana must be pissed. Obviously Rampage is gonna be dickin around on the set of A-Team. Explains why BJ is headlining a show in Memphis.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 4, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they both will only have 1 fight this year? Lame…
by BNF on Sep 4, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fücking Rampage, i fücking hate that motherfücker.
by Lester The Pimp on Sep 4, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s apparently coz of Rampage filming the A-Team, although I cant find a movie site, that actually confirms his casting. Taking a look at Rodgers above, I think he’d make a better B.A., he’s bigger and already got the Mohawk for it.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems a strange decision to delay it? Anyone else getting fed up with them announcing fights then changing them? Why announce them so early if there are chances of them changing? besides injury of course
by Eagzy on Sep 4, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if he’s on a film set all day, he wont have time to train. This is just BS, who does Rampage think he is holding up fights, Cung Le???
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting hard to defend Page now a days; I’ll probably still root for him, but it’s getting boring/annoying here on the Rampage bandwagon.
by O damn he got caught on Sep 4, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it not Rampage who said after the Forrest loss that “he would never take that much time off again”
by JV on Sep 4, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gave up at the fan expo, what a twat!
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jv,~ in rampage’s defense, he did say " i will never take 9 months off again"..
in this case, he might end up being “out” for longer than 9 months
;)
lol
by stinky~fingers on Sep 4, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Page is wasting away his prime years and he’s right near the top of the division. He tunrs down a fight with Machida for the belt so he can get paid and now that he got paid for the TUF season…he’s gonna go out and get paid more for a lame movie. I say forget Page…get Rashad another fight this year. Put him up against Lil Nog, Cain, or even Franklin after his Belfort fight.
by Buster Bluth on Sep 4, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t seen this story anywhere. You guys got a source?
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks K-Dog. LOL, he’s filming this piece of crap here in Vancouver too.
If true, Rampage is officially a frigging clown. This guy isn’t interested in fighting anymore. He’s probably back on the energy drinks.
Watch all the asshats who call Fedor a coward jump to Rampage’s defence – after turning down two title shots, wasting everyone’s time with this fake Rashad rivalry, and now this. It’s cool for Rampage to pull this crap though, because he’s getting paid, and he’s so “street”. Forget about all the times he’s stated that nothing is more important than getting his title back. This lying ghetto moron should have to hit the back of the line, but he won’t have to because of all his dumbass apologist fans.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can do nothing but agree with rant double J, that’s exactly how I feel. I used to like Rampage back in the day, but I cant get behind a fighter who doesn’t wanna fight, plus the guy’s a f@cking moron (you’ll see that if ever you meet him in person). I dont care what anyone says, he is ducking Machida and that fake rivalry with Rashad is just embarassing, worse than any WWE storyline. Plus he’s gonna tarnish all my child hood memories of the A-Team, by doing an appauling Mr T impression. Well to quote the great man “I pity the fool who refuses to fight”.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a Page’s fan and if this is true… that disappointes me alot from him.
by Alpha Male on Sep 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldn’t agree more JJ and attakdog…as a sports fan I have NO patience for this…
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we sure this is true??? Is there any other credible source? If so man I’m pissed on a number of fronts, most of which you guys already mentioned.
by UFC Champ on Sep 4, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s true, Bro. It’s damn true. It’s on MMAbay and Yahoo, among others. Wikipedia has updated their 107 page with it as well.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are ruthless. I do want to see Rampage fight but I can be patient if he is milking another revenue source. Business is Business and these guys fight for a living which is a little less forgiving than you guys, which is saying alot!!!! Also, I dont have any interest in seeing him beaten by Machida and after Rashad I dont care who else he fights EXCEPT Anderson. Now that could be CRAZY!!!!! Oh, and a Shogun rematch…..
by ItsCalledMMAnotUFC on Sep 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers looks like a beast compared to Fedor, but has Fedor been bigger than anyone he’s fought in recent memory?
by BeerMan on Sep 4, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well if your memory can make the huge leap back to 2 years ago (3 fights) there is matt “the middleweight” linland – and if you have the mental capacity to remeber five years there is also Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Mirko Cro cop, Kohsaka and gasp… Fedor came in at 236lbs vs Nog at 232 lbs. (Go get your Pride DVDs out and check Fedor worshipers)
So theres your answer Beerman: Yes
Thats 5 out of the last 10 or so fights Fedor has had within 5 years where his opponent was smaller than him. ArlovSki was only 10 lbs heavier and thats ONLY cuz glass weighs more than bone. The guys youre thinking of who were big are Hong Can Choi, Zulu Zinger Burger and Sylvia. 2 jokeshop novelties and a washed up adult diaper.
The question you should be asking is, has Fedor ever beaten a well rounded top 10 fighter with a significant weight advantage?
NO
Is Brett Rogers a a well rounded top 10 fighter with a significant weight advantage?
NO
Is this a legit matchup?
NO
Is this the match fans want?
NO
Does this fight prove anything?
NO
Does Fedor M1 give a shit?
NO! NO! NO!
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone think you’re funny?
NO
Is this a legit matchup?
YES
Is this a match fans called for when he signed with Strikeforce?
YES
Lol at you telling someone what they’re question should be.
by Diceman on Sep 4, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone think you’re funny?
NO – correct
Is this a legit matchup?
YES – wrong
Is this a match fans called for when he signed with Strikeforce?
YES – Wrong
33% Score = F
Fail – could do better, needs to pay more attention while getting schooled.
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure lots of people said he should fight Grimm his first fight, and that’s what is happening. Don’t see how I could be wrong about that.
by Diceman on Sep 4, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow panic you’re an idiot. Try making a persuasive argument instead of using caps to make a series of unsupported statements.
I suppose you’d have the same problems with Fedor going into the UFC and fighting the current #1 contender Shane Carwin, who is SO much more proven than Brett Rogers? Or maybe the same problems with him fighting a five-fight veteran in Lesnar? Guaranteed if Lesnar were in Strikeforce and he were Fedor’s first fight you’d call him a can.
Maybe you can become a part of the UFC marketing squad one day—you’re already doing it for free!
by frosnt on Sep 4, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must be confusing Brett Rogers with Strikeforce HW Absentee Champion, Alisteroids Overeem… beside that, as I remeber, the call from fans when he signed for Strikeforce was shennanigans!
I will add that its pretty hard for fans to call for a matchup when Fedor signed a 3 fight deal with a promotion that only has 3 opponents for him.
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with the diceman, rogers is as legit as every ufc hw except maybe 2 of them.
by roy on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
frosnt, you tell me to make a persuasive argument then your argument against me consists of making up a statement you suppose I might say, then shooting down that same statement then following up with a guarentee of my reaction to another hypothetical situation?!? Are you fucking kidding me? You are stuck in a loop of empty rhetoric; you are debating with yourself… and winning! In an embarrassing attempt to turn your misplaced emotions for this Russian into a coherent sentence, you have made more of a fool of yourself than I could ever hope to…
If Fedor joined UFC he would have fought the champ first, that’s what most fans wanted to see, not this. Its that simple.
Im a fan of Rogers but this matchup just has wrong written all over it. Can’t you see it, cant you smell the stench? The last emperor has no clothes and hes stinking up the place too.
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
roy please do tell me these 2 mythical UFC fighters who are able to rate higher than Brett Rogers on your legitometer…
nah dont bother im taking the piss out of you – FOR FUCKS SAKE roy there are 2 fighters in Strikeforce more legit than Rogers, and theyre both SHIT.
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Panic-
Way to respond my post without addressing its contents at all and instead choosing to babble on about empty nonsense.
by frosnt on Sep 4, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure panic works for Zuffa. I’ve never seen him say anything good about anything non-Zuffa, and never seen him say anything bad that is produced by Zuffa. He’s the exact opposite of introvert, only he does a poor job of arguing his points. And panic-I should have been more specific…those who were actually talking about potential fights for him in Strikeforce and not whining like bitches were talking about a Grimm fight. I mean if all you are doing is bashing the guy about business decisions it’s pretty hard to talk about potential fights.
by Diceman on Sep 4, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
frosnt, there was no content in your post, thats what i said in my reply.
I’ll try to explain it again for you, this time without the sarcasm, swearing or big words, that should make it easy for you.
All you did was propose some extremely unlikely scenarios like Carwin being Fedors first fight if he had joined the UFC or Lesnar vacating his title to move to strikeforce and replacing rogers as Fedors 1st opponent. You then went on to not only tell me but guarantee how i would react. Try to stick with reality and if you respond to your own questions for me, don’t be upset if the answers disappoint you.
Here’s an exercise we can do to try improving your communication skills. You could try answering my original questions; I can list them again if you need me to.
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 fight contract, 3 opponents available – theres no discusion diceman. Werdum, Overeem, Rogers.
Overeem for the title should have been first – thats what people expected. Not this.
You dont seem to want to accept that so please explain why this match is relevant to the “#1 hw in the world”, why fans would want to see this more than Fedor v Overeem and is Rogers a one dimensional power puncher or a well rounded MMA fighter?
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think panic’s voice is taking on that squeal that you hear from the runt at the bottom of the dogpile.
Forget it guys. Panic is a troll, nothing more. According to him, Fedor and AA are basically the same size. Forget about the fact that Arlovski is a SHREDDED 6’4 245, and Fedor is a pudgy 6’0 231, all that matters is the weight. For example, if Matt Serra ate donuts until he was 190, he would, according to mongo’s logic, be just as big as GSP.
As for breaking down a guy’s fights in retrospect and hacking on his opponents, it’s really easy to do that for anybody. Watch. let’s break down Rampage’s fights in the UFC with the same critical eye.
Marvin Eastman: Undersized can.
Chuck Liddell: Well ,he’s just like AA and Sylvia. Everyone KOs him now. He was apparently clipped with a high heel on Dancing With the Stars and was unconscious for 27 minutes.
Dan Henderson: Old man and undersized even at middleweight. Still a very close fight.
Forrest Griffin: Can. No skill. Beat Rampage anyway.
Wanderlei Silva: See Chuck Liddell. 1-5 in his last six fights. This victory means nothing.
Keith Jardine: Can. No skill or chin. Still almost won the fight.
There you have it. Rampage is a fraud. Now, are these things true? Not really. But they are just as true as the imbecilic conclusions panic draws above about Fedor’s defeated opponents. The bottom line is that when these fights were about to happen they were considered credible and accomplished opponents for Rampage, just like Sylvia and AA were for Fedor. With 20/20 hindsight, it’s easy to go back and pick apart every fighter’s record, esoecially when you begin the endeavor with a clear and hateful bias.
Anyway, I’m not going to waste any more of my time on this dunce.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was going to respond, but jeremy took care of it.
by roy on Sep 4, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree that Panic goes too far with Fedor. But you, my brotha… you could have took another fighter than Rampage for your example ;) Anyway, good points.
by Alpha Male on Sep 4, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It works for anybody, Alpha. Try it with Anderson Silva.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ-Truth. I had resoluted not to argue with this guy anymore, but sometimes I can’t help myself. Panic-you are being a smug little prick talking about how people are putting words in your mouth, then you turn around and do the exact same thing to me you hypocrite. You say he should have fought Overeem for the title his first fight. In case you haven’t noticed Overeem has been a viable option as of late in Strikeforce. When Fedor signed with Strikeforce most people on these boards thought Grimm would be a good first matchup. I don’t know what universe you’re living in, but in this one that was being talked about. There’s nothing to “accept” about how he should’ve fought Overeem first. This fight is relevent because he’s fighting a top-10 fighter, much like Brock fighting Carwin. I don’t see you getting your panties in a wad about that. You then insinuate that I said fans would want to see this more than Fedor vs Overeem, which I never said. Talk about hypothetical situations. As far as Rogers all-around game, no one knows except those he trains with. Seeing as he’s been knocking everyone out we haven’t seen him on the ground. I’m not going to try to answer a question I couldn’t possibly know the answer to. And you say, “3-fight contract, 3 opponents available-no discussion diceman”. If that’s how you feel, why the hell do you care in what order he fights them? Why is it such a travesty he fights Rogers before Overeem if he’s going to fight him anyway? Like I said, it’s just your hatred for all things non-Zuffa that makes you type this garbage.
by Diceman on Sep 4, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I get tired of all the AA “glass jaw” talk, when half the people on this site thought AA had a very good chance before he got destroyed. Now, he’s garbage. I’m not so easily fooled haters.
by Diceman on Sep 4, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem HASN’T been a viable option***
by Diceman on Sep 4, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeremy – I think you must be replying to a post i made 4 months ago. Stick to the current discussion or stay out of it. Youre excuse that Fedor is a bit pudgy so his weight at weigh-in time doesnt count is without a doubt the funniest/dumbest thing ive seen written all day (and ive been posting with roy)
All of the things i said above are true and i can see that it hurts your feelings to read it but you are the only one making a squeal.
You identified me as a troll at the start of your post and then went on to reply in great detail anyway, without actually addressing my original post about how bad a matchup this is, that makes you the dunce Jeremy
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, here you go Alpha. Anderson Silva’s 10-0 UFC record as broken down by a total hater.
1) Chris Leben: Can.
2) Rich Franklin: Decent fighter, but hadn’t ever beaten a good opponent. was coming off a long lasyoff from hand surgery.
3) Travis Lutter: Can who was gassed out from trying to make weight. Still had Silva in trouble.
4) Nate Marquardt: Decent fighter, but hadn’t evolved yet.
5) Rich Franklin: Was mentally broken and scared from the first beatdown.
6) Dan Henderson: Undersized old can. Was still handily winning the fight until he foolishly abandoned his LnP strategy in favor of striking. Would definitely win a rematch.
7) James Irvin: Drug-addicted can. Not even really a LHW.
8) Patrick Cote: Can. Might have KO’d Silva but his knee blew out. Now we’ll never know.
9) Thales Leites: Terrified can. Not even really a fighter because he has since been cut from the UFC.
10) Forrest Griffin: Unskilled and hyped-up overrated can. Quit two minutes into the fight.
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You see, all the brain injury patients that always throw out the “but Fedor has only beaten two quality opponents in Cro-Cop and Nog” argument have failed to turn that same scrutiny on undisputed UFC P4P great Annderson Silva. One could easily look at this list of victories and deduce that with the exception of Henderson and Franklin, Silva has done nothing but beat up cans.
The fact of the matter is, both Fedor and Anderson have stellar records and are the best in their respective weight classes. Both have fought and won against many opponents, some skilled and some not so much. If you’re going to attack one’s accomplishments, at least have the presence of mind to apply the same level of scorn to the other.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Panic zoo-
I know why you want me to stay out of it. You don’t like losing debates, which is exactly why you ran off with your tail between your vag four months ago.
If the best you’ve got is “by replying to my post you have lost” then your mind is even more feeble than I thought.
You sir, are an idi@t. Just admit you’re wrong and move on. It won’t be the first time you’ve been wrong and it certainly won’t be the last.
Now I’m done. Cheers y’all.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
^^ EDIT:
- Dan Henderson should read “undersized old MAN”, not can.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post JJ. Thank you, for giving me ammunitions for the next time that I’ll feel the urge to bash at the Spider with an in-coherent rants. ;)
by Alpha Male on Sep 4, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Alpha. Damn, I just realized I forgot the “Hendo was gassed from cutting weight” excuse. Oh well. You can use that one next time you go on an anti-Spider tirade.
8-)
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Overeem isnt an option then fedor signed with an org that only has 2 heavyweights, that just looks worse Diceman.
I see the usual suspects here minus 1 or 2 other incessant posters its about 5 or 6 guys who post all the time and think you represent mma fans – you dont, nobody really wanted to see this fight, rogers has never shown any sign of a ground game and has no fight experience against judo or jiu jitsu therefore he is a power striker only = one dimension.
Fedor winning this fight proves nothing, he is meant to win and it would be the biggest upset in MMA history if he lost Its a gimme fight.
Fedor has had a bunch of opponents who are smller than him and like i said he has never faced a big well rounded top 10 ranked hw and he wont be against brett.
This match is not legit – fighting the #2,#3 or #4 ranked hw would be – this is just a promo exercise/ money maker for Fedor and M1. Anyone taking this match seriously or getting excited are either fooling themselves or just plain dumb.
I will refer you to my original post so you know what youre replying to. Its saturday morning here in Aus and off to the beach soon.
Well if your memory can make the huge leap back to 2 years ago (3 fights) there is matt "the middleweight" linland – and if you have the mental capacity to remeber five years there is also Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Mirko Cro cop, Kohsaka and gasp… Fedor came in at 236lbs vs Nog at 232 lbs. (Go get your Pride DVDs out and check Fedor worshipers)
So theres your answer Beerman: Yes
Thats 5 out of the last 10 or so fights Fedor has had within 5 years where his opponent was smaller than him. ArlovSki was only 10 lbs heavier and thats ONLY cuz glass weighs more than bone. The guys youre thinking of who were big are Hong Can Choi, Zulu Zinger Burger and Sylvia. 2 jokeshop novelties and a washed up adult diaper.
The question you should be asking is, has Fedor ever beaten a well rounded top 10 fighter with a significant weight advantage?
NO
Is Brett Rogers a a well rounded top 10 fighter with a significant weight advantage?
NO
Is this a legit matchup?
NO
Is this the match fans want?
NO
Does this fight prove anything?
NO
Does Fedor M1 give a shit?
NO! NO! NO!
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually there are a couple of valid points on the spider there, the rest you’re just being a bit silly. I don’t care for p4p its bullshit – there are weight classes with champions – ufc champ is the best in that weight class, and at the moment if you’re not in the ufc – you’re not the best
Like it or not Jeremy, lots of people now see through Fedors facade and realise he has a well padded record, just because you will never admit it doesn’t stop it from being true. This Rogers fight is just more padding. But by all means keep selling it to yourself as legit if it makes you feel better…
and Jeremy I have never lost a debate to you, the fact that you keep posting long after ive won doesn’t make you a victor – the quantity over quality approach you take to posting is the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going lalalalalalalala during a debate and then declaring yourself the winner when your opponents leave. Just lame.
My argument has always been Fedor is overrated with a padded record and is dodging the ufc. I always said Barnett wasn’t a legit #2 and affliction were paying him more than he was worth and would go bust… and when affliction fell apart and fedor skipped on the UFC contract and Barnett crawled into a hole somewhere in shame I stopped posting cuz people realized I was right all along. Now some of you have managed to fool yourselves into thinking there is anything legit about this fight with Rogers I just wanted to remind you that there isn’t. Its like GSP fighting Ben Saunders
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Panic-tard said: “has Fedor ever beaten a well rounded top 10 fighter with a significant weight advantage?”
A better and more logical set of questions and answers would be:
Do any well-rounded HWs with a significant size advantage on Fedor even exist?
No.
Has GSP ever beaten a well-rounded top-ten fighter with a significant weight advantage?
No.
Has Anderson Silva ever beaten a well-rounded top-ten fighter with a significant weight advantage?
No.
Would panic-zoo ever bring up these elite UFC fighters and their lack of wins against top-ten opponents with a significant weight advantage?
No.
Are the questions panic-zoo asked biased, absurd and irrelevant, just like the vast majority of his ramblings?
YES!
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
panictool i would debate you on this but jemeremy already burned you so bad whats the point, maybe on the next one panicfool.
ps. give me you info and i will mail you out a toothbrush.
by roy on Sep 4, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to fill in, the fact that JJ mentioned Dan, Griffin and Jardine as cans makes him a bit of a tool too. Just my 2 cents.
by The Negation on Sep 5, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will answer those questions properly jeremy so you can see how wrong you are.
“Do any well-rounded HWs with a significant size advantage on Fedor even exist?
No." Wrong!
Ali Overeem 255 strikes and subs
Brock Lesnar 280+ strikes and ncaa wrestling champ proven sub defense against bjj black belt
Gabe Gonzaga 260 strikes wrestling and bjj blackbelt – one of the best hw bbj guys in the world, kicked cro cops head off
Shane Carwin 260 ko striker with ncaa wrestling and experience on the ground with bjj black belts – undefeated
Josh Barnett? 255 +good allrounder, -self control/ substance problem. Be a while before we see his face again.
Theres 5 jeremy you numpty ;) shit most of them are top10 and one of them is the champion of the division were talking about. Duuuuurrr
other fighters who are smaller but would still be a better test than the one dimensional Rogers:
Werdum
Mir
Couture
Nog 4
Thats a total of 9 maybe even 10 if you include JDS who has ko power and sub wins/trains bjj under Nog – def more rounded than Rogers
9 or 10 better fights uot there against better rounded skill sets and higher profile/more experienced guys but you still defend the “#1 hw in the world” fighting the 11th guy in line as legit matchmaking. dont be stupid.
“Has GSP ever beaten a well-rounded top-ten fighter with a significant weight advantage?
No." Stupid comparison!
HW cannot be compared to WW – ALL WW come in at 170 while hw can be anywhere from 220 – 265
“Has Anderson Silva ever beaten a well-rounded top-ten fighter with a significant weight advantage?
No." Stupid comparison!
HW cannot be compared to MW – ALL WW come in at 170 while hw can be anywhere from 220 – 265
On top of the stupidity of your comparison Silva and GSP have both beaten the #2,3 and 4 ranked fighters in their division – way better than Fedor in his division with only 1 win over a current top 10 hw and that was damn 5+ years ago.
“Would panic-zoo ever bring up these elite UFC fighters and their lack of wins against top-ten opponents with a significant weight advantage?
No." Wrong!
I just did.
“Are the questions panic-zoo asked biased, absurd and irrelevant, just like the vast majority of his ramblings?
YES!" Judgement call.
If my original post was so irrelevant due to bias and absurdity why have you spent so much time and effort responding. Poor judgement Jeremy? You can’t have it both ways.
Checkmate bitch. :)
by paniczoo on Sep 5, 2009 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
negation, i think jeremy is just saying that stuff to show that you can badmouth anyones record, it doesnt really work and he is a bit of a tool anyway. thing is when i say can/padding i mean it and maintain that Fedor has more of them on his record than any other top fighter, oh and AA and Sylvia were UFC rejects on a slide when Fedor booked to fight them, clear as day.
by paniczoo on Sep 5, 2009 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. I stopped reading as soon as I saw Lesnar, Carwin and Overeem listed as examples of well-rounded heavyweights. Damn you’re a waterhead.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 5, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You dismiss those 3 guys who all have a much better rounded skillset and ground fighting experience than Rogers? They all have heavy hands too. They are all ranked higher than Rogers and would all be a better test for fedor. There is a list there of 10 or so better matchups and you just stopped reading, how convenient Jeremy Rabbit found a bolt hole, run rabbit run.
by paniczoo on Sep 5, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
paniczoo…thanks for the response. I was kind of thinking about his last three fights, but thanks for the breakdown.
by BeerMan on Sep 4, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beerman no probs… I figured you were but I have this trigger inside that sends me on patronising rants when i read the word Fedor. Therapy?
by paniczoo on Sep 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
paniczoo…we all have buttons that can be pushed. Your’s is Fedor, mine is “last call”
by BeerMan on Sep 4, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine is “stop, you’re hurting me and I want to go home”.
;-)
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, are you talking about your wrist or the cougars?
by Alpha Male on Sep 4, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m saying this b/c it’s kida ambiguous. You could talk about Kids, chicks, Your wrist b/c you did break it while stroking the salami or you could mean something else that I completely haven’t think of?
by Alpha Male on Sep 4, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he thought gogoplata was an italian opera singer!lol
by scott on Sep 4, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fight is in november…
…and it won’t last more than 2 minutes. rodgers is talking and talking…and he’ll get knocked out in less than 2 mins.
by B_Hos on Sep 4, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This the promo on that SF pie eating contest coming up??
by O damn he got caught on Sep 4, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this is from after the pie eating contest
by ~Savage~ on Sep 4, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like a teaser for the next “Glutton Bowl”.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone’s focusing on the “hard hitting Rogers”…c’mon, Fedor hits harder, and is more accurate. Once Rogers feels his power, he’s gonna go into survival mode and get TKO’d.
by Stryker on Sep 4, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope that when Rogers loses in the 1st (obviously) that Arlovski gets another crack at him, it sure makes sense.
I know nuff’ people hate him, but Big Tim should be in the strikeforce picture. The Maniac Vs Grimm would be sweeeeet!
by Insain on Sep 4, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t get up to go get a beer, Sylvia might break his own record of getting starched in 9 seconds.
the ring announcer won’t even have to leave the cage.
by the Slovak on Sep 4, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow way to show your hand, brett rogers
by nameless on Sep 4, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Meh
Just more fight hype.
Rogers will make a mistake and Fedor will capitalize….as usual.
I hope it is a real fight though. Would be great to see Fedor tested.
by DubNub on Sep 4, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“SHHHHH, don’t tell anybody, but this is how I’m gonna beat Fedor.” Maybe he thinks this is Lashley/Sapp.
by Fred on Sep 4, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is better than every fighter in the UFC??? ….im speechless..
by sokhl on Sep 4, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently the most trained MMA observers can tell that from 22 seconds of footage against ole granite jaw himself Andrei Arlovski. Me personaly, I cant tell that, guess I haven’t got as good an eye for these things as others have.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that and he has been against tremendous opposition prior to that bout. He knocked out James Thompson! We saw what that beast of a brit did to the unstoppable street king Kimbo Slice! That was a war! And how could anyone forget how easily he handled the ALWAYS DANGEROUS Abongo. (Sarcasm)
by RyanHobbs on Sep 4, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh if I’d have known he’d knocked out James Thompson, well that changes everything. Coz he’s regarded as having the closest thing to an indestructable jaw in the entire MMA world, right????
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. I mean seriously. A guy who can knock out James Thompson is bound to be the first to take out Fedor. Whens butterbean getting his shot?
by RyanHobbs on Sep 4, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is the most overrated bum in MMA right now.
by Lester The Pimp on Sep 4, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Absof’inglutely…Ancalagon has spoken…
by ancalagon on Sep 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would they take a side picture of these two and their guts. Fedor I can understand because he has to put on weight to be a HW when he should be fighting at LHW. But still…
by kibbled_bits on Sep 4, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well fedor has an ice cream problem and he usually wears flattering sweaters to hide his belly..
by sarah on Sep 4, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Diceman:
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FEDOR
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
BURN HIM!
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
HANG HIM!
CUT HIS F*ING HEAD OFF!
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
by O damn he got caught on Sep 4, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DOWN WITH COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re winning you over Diceman I can see it, soon you’ll be joining in too.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers hasn’t fought anyone (currently) at the top level, in spite of his record against lesser talent he’s pretty much unproven and I’m sure that time will show that this guy is not ready for the big leagues….a huge guy with a powerful punch, but unevolved MMA skills. May as well be Kimbo Slice…Ancalagon has spoken…
by ancalagon on Sep 4, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait – isn’t it against the unified rules to fake an injury during a fight in order to lure an opponent in?
by Dissenter on Sep 4, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is the winner in the man-titty department, what a sweet set
by ~Savage~ on Sep 4, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is a titty-twister the same as a nipple cripple??
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the nipple cripple is the jiu-jitsu equivalent of the titty-twister
by ~Savage~ on Sep 4, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sloppy? hahahhahaha brett rogers calling ANYONE sloppy?! hahahahhaha
by battery on Sep 4, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedors first test into the CAGE , Will see what happens…
by Il Nino on Sep 4, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ROGERS IS SUCH A F*ING BOZO!! HES GUNA GET DROPPED LIKE ZULU!!!
by d*locc on Sep 4, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed…Rogers is so overrated it’s ridiculous. Ancalagon has spoken…
by ancalagon on Sep 4, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who here thinks that Rogers will be FAKING that injury? My guess is that it will be real.
Real manly approach. I think Homer told Bart once that the way to win a fight is to fake an injury and kick the other in the back. Is Homer rogers corner man now?
…..Striker Dave has spoken…..?
by Striker Dave on Sep 4, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if this whole “fake an injury” deal is his gameplan, at least it was a great idea to let Fedor know
by shitleTOT.com on Sep 4, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Calling Fedor sloppy, what?
This will be a great fight but I cant picture Rogers coming on top at all.
by Daniel Contogiannis on Sep 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Captain America said:
“I’m not hyping him. I just think that Fedor is past his prime. Rogers does have one thing that Fedor’s past opponents have not had–one punch ko power. Don’t even bring up Cro-Cop! Rogers has great take down defense as well. Fedor can only beat him on the ground and I don’t see it going there so it is only a matter of time before Rogers ko’s him. Seems like all the greats fall to someone you would never expect and this has the recipe to follow history.”
LMAO.
Yeah Fedor’s 36 second destruction of Syvlia and 3 minute murder of AA and 2 minute arm removal surgery of Hong Man Choi really make him seem past his prime. And yeah, your right, he has never faced punching power like Rogers. Forget, wait for it….CROCOP! How about Randleman, Goodridge (a Rogers clone), and 3 time K-1 ubergod Shemmy Schilt. Yeah, Fedor has no experience with power punchers and has displayed in his fights that he has slowed down.
Rogers, on the hand,has a whopping 10 fights. Outside of the AA flash knockout his last competition has been against Jon Murphy (who?) and Ron Humphrey (double who?) in fact his opponents records combined are 67-69, including AA…look it up.
So what makes you think Fedor is past his prime and that Rogers is legit. Two words: Gary Goodridge.
by Striker Dave on Sep 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You were doing good there till you mentioned HMC, and Randleman a power puncher????
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The HMC reference is to show that Fedor isn’t past his prime.
Crocop, Goodridge, Schilt, and Randleman were mentioned as hios ability to salve power punchers.
Cant you read, attakdog?
And Randleman can KO a ton of people. Ask Crocop.
Either way Fedor has deal with any power puncher on the planet, especially the one dimensional ones.
by Striker Dave on Sep 4, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You dont have to be in your prime pal to beat HMC, far from it in fact.
Yes I can read, that’s why I picked you up on Randleman being listed as a power puncher. I suppose Cro Cop will go down in history as being one of the great HW submission experts then, seeing as he subbed Randleman in the rematch? Waddya say champ?
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the “Missed the Point” award goes to…. attakdog.
Yes, a HMC victory doesn’t mean he is in his prime, but the way that he beat HMC does prove the Fedor isn’t past his prime…far from it in fact. Waddya say chump???
And yeah, your right Randleman, cant KO anybody…nobody. Either way, YOU MISSED THE POINT AGAIN (two time nominee for the award). Point is that Fedor can deal with power punchers. That’s all chump.
Now go argue who would win if Lesner fought Batman, or a Predator, or an Alien, or whatever pointless waist of energy that occupies you until you miss the next point.
by Striker Dave on Sep 4, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though rogers will be 35 pounds heavier than Fedor being one dimensional he stands very little chance unless he is able to keep it standing but I can’t see that. It will the toughest opponent fedor has faced over 245 pounds Sylvia is a close second and around the same calibure of fighter.
by Puck Head on Sep 4, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno about missing the point, you’re losing the plot.
What point did I miss? You listed Randleman, Big Daddy and Schilt as examples of “power punchers” that Fedor has “handled”. I disagreed with you on Randleman being a power puncher. How have I missed the point?
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy, I love it when morons come back for seconds….
THE POINT is that Fedor can solve the power puncher problem!!!! Not to argue if Randleman can KO people, which he has.
In fact he has 5 KO’s in his 17 victories, almost one third. Anyone with his body, his speed can do some damage. His nickname is “the Monster”, he didn’t get that because he is a pushover.
So okay, even if you remove Randleman from the list (because that’s not the point), Fedor still has the resume to show he can beat a great striker.
But anyway, keep arguing the details, your point that Randleman doesn’t have power is useless anyway, because I HAVE MADE THE POINT that Fedor can overwhelm, solve, handle, rape, scalp, and ship back home, every and any power puncher in the game. Which is THE POINT.
Do you even know what “plot” means? You sound like a child who argues that the ocean is made of clear water than therefore isn’t really blue….what an imbecile.
by Striker Dave on Sep 4, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol, we seem to have got off on the wrong foot here. I agree with you that Fedor can handle power punchers, I never disagreed with you on that, in fact I agreed with all your initial post, except about HMC (I wouldn’t ever mention that can to get a point across) and Randleman. For some reason you elected to jump down my throat and go on about “missed points” and resort to insults instead of having a mature debate with me.
by LBS on Sep 4, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Exhibit #226 in support of mandatory registration.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well LBS, the reason I get so pissed is because some of the posters here are so interested in winning an argument, they forget what the original idea is and actually don’t care if they are right or not, they just want to win the argument.
This is a PARAPHRASING of this whole thread.
CaptainAmerica: Fedor is past his prime and hasn’t faced good power punchers.
Striker Dave: Actually he has dominated his last three fights (Slyvia, AA, and HMC) so he’s clearly not past his prime and has faced powerful fighters before (Crocop, Goodridge, Schilt, Randleman) so that shouldn’t be an indicator that he would lose this fight.
attakdog: HMC sucks, that doesn’t prove anything and Randleman isn’t a power puncher.
Striker Dave: Um, okay, Randleman isnt a pushover though, not really the point, but whatever. Fedor can handle any powerful guys and DID dominate his last few fights.
attakdog: But you said Randleman is a power puncher.
Striker Dave: You’re missing the point. Fedor can beat the power fighters. Randleman’s ability or not.
attakdog: What do you mean I’m missing the point? You’re missing the plot. All I’m saying is that Randleman isnt a power striker.
Striker Dave: Alright F***ER! If Randleman is powerful or not isn’t REALLY important to the discussion. FEDOR will be able to handle ANY striker that comes his way. Do I have to firebomb your car to make you understand that Randleman isnt the point here, it’s if Fedor can handle strong strikers. Are you stupid or just trying to come off that way. JEZZZZZZZUZZZZZZ CHRIST!!!!!!!
Sorry, I’m back now. F off.
by Striker Dave on Sep 4, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF???? Who are you? Nobody’s talking to you!
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The reason why no upset is going to happen with Rogers knocking out Fedor with an epic one punch knockout, is because this time everyone believes it’s going to be an upset… even if it does happen, is it really an upset for you guys seeing as 1/2 of you think rogers will pull it off?
by Hendo_One-shot on Sep 4, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now those are the bodies of real athletes
by Ground fighting is love making on Sep 4, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everybody thinks Fedor is unbeatable. Any fighter and all fighters lose from time to time. We all know Fedor won’t fight in the UFC because there are fighters that can take this Russian out! He should handle Rogers, But Rogers has that punchers chance. We will see. I am not that impressed with Fedors stand up!
by nicky on Sep 4, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you’re not impressed with Fedor’s stand-up, you damn sure better be APALLED with Rogers’.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Jeremyjackson are you picking Rogers or Fedor?
by nicky on Sep 5, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ attackdog striker dave… john lennon “all we need is love” :)
by Sky on Sep 5, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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