Todd Duffee 'coming into his own' after record-setting knockout (Video)

you think GG is a gatekeeper? Hmm, I’ve never heard that before

Mike, history has gone both ways. Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva are both good strikers and that hasnt happened to them

Getrawbc, you are right. Duffee vs Gonzaga would be a good fight too. Regardless I hope this guy is the real deal.

Both AS and Machida are BJJ black belts so hardly novices on the ground!

Gonzaga is NOT a gatekeeper. He’s one of the best HWs in the UFC. He’d crush guys like Mir and Kongo. The UFC needs to give him another contender so that he can prove how good he really is.

Like Carwin?

What’s your point? He lost to an undefeated stud who’s now getting a title shot. He was handily winning the fight before the obvious knockout. You put two talented fighters in the octagon together and one of them loses.

Gonzaga = HW Jardine.

Great analogy PW

no, Gonzaga is not a HW Jardine..

The only notable win Gonzaga has on his record is CroCrop. Since then he got TKO’d by Couture, Werdum and Carwin. His wins are laughable oponents. He is a gatekeeper, its undeniable. He should be the measuring stick for someone like Duffee.

If Duffee takes him, he can fight the top fighters. Gonzaga is nowhere near the top.

He nearly KOed Carwin who’s got the next title shot… he’d probably take out Cain who was 1 fight away from a title shot.

hahaha Gabe might be the HW Dean of Mean.

I can’t believe Jardine lost like that again… still surprised at the look on his face everytime.

Further down the post someone said Bring on Heath Herring and I F#%^&IN agree THAT will answer all the questions. Instead of everyone butting heads, lets all agree – this kid looks and sounds impressive, I was calling the Duffster here, but come’on fellas 7 secs doesnt tell us bubkis, what did someone repaint the Houston Alexander war wagon???

OH YEAH-
You guys gotta deal with it.
Gonzaga is a total gatekeeper.

I agree with your assessment, but the ovation he got will get him onto the ppv. H’s been very inconsistent!

I’m getting a kick out of this thread, how can anyone intelligently comment on a guy who fought 7 seconds? We don’t know how his chin is, how his ground game is, how his clinch is etc. He may/or may not have power, period!

STFU, I’m just saying that f’n blanket didn’t have a better record than this guy who fought 7 sec. Did you see me saying anywhere that I was thinking that he was better? If you want to tell me that I’m doing stup!d comments, well put your post after the one of RoB down the thread instead to put it up there like a f’n pu$$y.

yeah, I have to defend Todd and Alpha here.. I do think Todd Duffee would KO Cain and that jab he threw speaks for itself, not alot of HW’s knows how to even throw a proper jab.. I do know what you’re saying kevin, but the kid is undefeated, he’s apparently finished all of his opponents by KO/TKO and to finish Assuerio Silva in 77 secs or whatever it was in Brasil is impressive..
He reminds me of Shane Carwin

Don’t we just love to speculate man?!? :)

who you talking to alpha? I’m lost!

rpberto, he may be the second coming, I don’t know. I also believe cain may be over rated, we will soon see. He wasn’t all that impressive (my opinion) in his last fight!

I don’t know who i was talking to, but I see u understood pretty good anyway… We Love to speculate it just makes everything that much more interesting!

I thought that it was clear that I was talking to you Kev. I thought that your comment was about me so I tryed to explain it to be more clear since you were “getting a kick out of this thread on how can anyone intelligently comment on a guy who fought 7 seconds”.

oh no, didn’t really see any of your comments. saw a couple saying this guy is like the second coming of christ and they didn’t mention any fight other than this one. thats what I got a kick out of. i know you are intelligent and search fighters and look at other fights other than there UFC debut!

Good call with Hardonk, he’ll test this guy’s standup that’s for sure, and be a good measuring stick for where he’s truely at. If he beats someone like Hardonk convincingly then I’ll start to take a bit of notice, not till then.

barry will ko hardonk anyway!

In three fights time Alpha maybe, certainly not before that. The UFC will realise there’s a bit of hype around this guy and will feed him another couple of cans, hopefully get some more highlight reel KO’s, get some momentum going, then maybe give him a Cain figure. Certainly not before.

Why not K-Dog? Cain is only 6-0 and was given Kongo after fighting Denis Stojnic. What’s the difference here?

Don’t tell me that you think that blanket Velasquez is legit?

Cain had three wins in the UFC before he was given Kongo and no I dont think he’s especially legit, I wanna see him fight a top tenner before I start to ride his hype train. Hell I’d love to see the fight, bypass some time and see who is legite but I’m just looking at it from the UFC’s point of view, and there’s no way they’ll make that fight happen yet, for the reasons I gave in my previous post.

Well I’m like you, I don’t ride the hype train on Cain, and I can tell you that I consider him a can too. Cain had 3 wins before Kongo is a fact, but 2 of his win were against guys that were coming from local shows and was at their 1st fight in the UFC. O’Brien is a LHW anyway so I don’t count that as a quality win either.

Like I said there is no difference between fighting cans on a local circuit than fighting cans that are in their first fight in the UFC that coming from a local circuit. Plus like you said… Duffman got a little of hype building around him right now. So why not put him in there with another fighter that will bring everyone interest in seeing these 2 fight? Hardonk won’t bring that feeling for the casual fans.

Alpha it wont happen. The UFC like to hype up their prospects as long as possible before sticking them in with top class opposition, hell look at Bones Jones. Duffee will be no different and Cain is rightly or wrongly far away in the distance for this kid at the moment. You dont just walk into the UFC, spark out a can in 6 seconds in your first fight and instantly get given a top 15 opponent. (Please no Brock stories either people)

You got to be joking? Cain is a can. He’s not top 15 b/c he beat Kongo by lay n pray on him. He got 1 good opponents who is Kongo(who is not top 15) but that’s it. He’s just 6-0 for god sakes and he’s beatting cans. He’s still a rookie like Duffe and he’s not above Duffman in my book.

Cain is a can? whoa, chill out bro.. I don’t like him either and how he just layed on Kongo, but truth is that he’s pretty good..

I’m just going by the rankings Alph and he’s universally regarded as being top 15, whether you agree with it or not. The best he can hope for in his second UFC fight after 7 seconds of action is Mostapha Al-Turk, Stephan Struve or Antoni Hardonk, Cain is way off his radar, like it or not.

Cain aint no can either, he’s overhyped yes, but no can.

Can’t you read? I did explained his record above. Keep thinking that he won the Kongo fight by other way than to be a blanket on him if you want, I don’t care RoB. I find that you are completely blind for a guy that got the good eyes to recognize someone who’s on the juice.

You guys are ridiculous, Cain his not better than this new kid Duffman. And yes, wake up he is a can.

Alpha you’re sounding increasingly irrational and letting your hatred of Cain cloud your judgement, by making a case for a guy who you’ve seen in action for exactly 7 seconds.

Dude, i’m telling you that cain with a record of 6-0 with 4 wins against total cans is no better than someone with a record of 5-0 with 4 wins against total cans. that’s a fact mate not being irrational.

Dude, we’ll have to agree to differ, I certainly dont think Cain is a can, nor will Duffee be given anyone remotely resembling top 15 in his second fight.

Whatever, keep supporting your ace… that’s what it matter. If you really believe that Cain is a top 15 with a record of 6-0 with only 1 quality win over Kongo, well I guess that we have nothing more to discuss on this. Yep, we’ll have to agree to differ.

I think the adjectives we’re all looking for here for both Duff-Man and Cain are “untested” and “unproven” as opposed to “cans.”

Yep, you’re right P-Dub, my bad!

“I wanna see him fight a top tenner before I start to ride his hype train.”

LOL, I would actually prefer to see him fight an Irish Tennor first, but that’s just me.

I like the nickname Duffman. He can come out and say “Oh yeah” like on the Simpsons.

look K-Dog, what I’m trying to tell you is that Cain was 5-0 with 4 wins over D+ fighters and 1 against a D LHW fighter, before that he was given Kongo.
Fine, he beat him by laying on him for 3 rnds and now, he’s considered a top 15 b/c of Kongo’s previous rank.
The Duff-man is 5-0 with 3 wins over D+ fighters and 2 wins against D fighters.

Tell me why couldn’t he have the same chance than Cain had, to prove himself against a top 15 like Cain(in your standard) also? Is it Just b/c it will be his 2nd fight instead of his 4th in the UFC? Why would Duffee, absolutely need to have to wait 2 more fights before having the same chance that Blanket had? Just b/c Cain had 2 more wins in the UFC that coming from guys that were at their 1st fight in the UFC (theirs previous fight was on a local circuit)that’s what gave him more credibility to face a top 15(Kongo)? They both did beat the same amount of cans that was from local circuit. They are both young unproven with almost the same track record.
I find that funny that you’re saying that Blanket, all the sudden is too high profile for Duff-man, b/c he’s considered a top 15 now (b/c of his win over Kongo), but you would be OK to give Duffee another fighter that his near the top 15, like Hardonk. That is a bit of irrationality, isn’t it?
I honestly don’t see the what so different between those 2 fighters situation, buddy!(Cain/Duffee)

let me say this to your face, and if you don’t understand then you’re a moron, ok!
everything is not about who they’ve fought or not..
I had tards tellin’ me that just because Jardine had fought tougher guys that he would win, that is the most childish and braindead thing to say…

Cain is a top 15 HW easily… It doesn’t matter who he’s fought or hasn’t fought, he’s that good its as simple as that…

Cain is also mexican, and they need to market a mexican HW cause they’ve got plenty of American monsters already, that’s why.. Cain won’t fight Duffee because Cain has a name Duffee hasn’t, it’s gotta make sense business-wise, rankings might aswell be thrown out of the window…

LMAO, well let me say this in your face…God, that you’re a dumba$$ sometimes. RoB I don’t know where to begin on your stupidity…so i’ll leave it to that.

wtf is wrong with ya?

Guys, the biggest reason you have valid points is due to the current state of the UFC’s HW roster. We all know there is nowhere near the talent the other divisions have so when a guy like Duffee comes along and completely stuns us with one MMA dimension, it is very easy to assume he is the complete package.

Given his size, it would be easy to match him up with almost anyone and the best/worst that happens is he wins or loses. We have not seen him outside the UFC and if memory serves we correctly, he has at least as many fights as the current UFC HW champion.

I say give him Herring next. Heath is always ready to go at it and loves to stand. If Duffee chooses the ground it would be nice to see what he can do there as well.

yeah, lol! who says i’m a dumba$$, and why? Don’t say because i called guys out on the juice, cause the guys that came up and defended them sure don’t know more than I do. They just take a different approach, btw we even had a guy who was a chemist that jumped in and kinda said I was right…

Let me make the final statement here, why Duffee isn’t gonna be thrown to the wolves right away is because they need to protect Todd, he’s only 23 and they need to build him up so he can make himself a name!..
It doesn’t matter if he’s the new HW Anderson Silva, that’s the way it is and he is still completely unknown to 90% of the MMA world

Whatever ladies..Point is that they’re both untested. God for once just listen to Violent mIke and clear your minds… ;)

Had to battle it out with Alpha who seems to be on fire..

lol, we didn’t battle anything fool. I was telling ya how you are a crazy mofo with your comments sometimes. :) But I was saying it like that b/c you’re my boy, not by disrespect. And for the juice thing… I was in agreement with ya for the most part. But I got to say that there is plenty of guys of 6’+, over 250lbs with less than 08% BF or are not juicing. Just look at most of the DL, OL, LB, FB(football), Basketball players in the NCAA and you will understand what I’m saying.

Duff-man and Blanket are both untested like Syd said. But I still don’t think that Cain had a better resume or was more relevant than this Duffee, when the UFC gave him the chance to fight Kongo.

Alpha, Duffer will not be given the same chance Cain was because he’s had exactly 7 seconds of action in the octagon and nobody has a clue who he is. The average UFC fan doesn’t care that their records are similar and this guy beat some cans in another promotion, all they care about is his record in the UFC. If he was suddenly given a contender in his second fight, the vast majority of UFC fans would be scratching their head and going WTF??? It would make no sense to them. Like it or not but Cains UFC record counts for a lot, fans have seen him consistantly win and progress and make a name for himself, they haven’t seen this with Duffer. This kid could be the next big thing, who knows, but the UFC will definitely bring him on SLOW, with a diet of increasingly good cans, to make a name for him and get a buzz going around him. I know I’m right on this, there is no chance in hell, he will be given a contender in his second fight.

Antoni Hardonk is nowhere near top 15 Alpha either, the guy is barely top 25.

You’re probably right P-Dub. It’s just amazing to me, simply jawdropping what some people are coming out with after 7 seconds of this guy in action against a can.

attakdog agree with u for once lol.nice win but come on even the smallest hw in the ufc barry was tooling this guy till he followed him to the ground(no disrepect patrick).he deserves the same again next card hes on,an undercard fight against loser of barry/hardonk or struve maybe russow.dont get going over the top already!

Well, Brock Lesnar beat a can, lost via submission in round one in his next fight, gets ONE win over Heath Herring then a title shot.

Looks like quite a few jumped on his bandwagon along with Dana White.

You could at least give Duffee a chance before passing judgement.

ks this has been explained about a million times!$ plus brock had an awesome wrestling resume!no comparison

Brock’s a one in a million case and can’t really be used as a comparison. Lesnar was a household name and proven PPV seller before he entered the UFC, Duffee is neither. That’s why Lesnar was fast-tracked and Duffee wont be.

Don’t forget Lesnar’s pedigree. He was an NCAA Champion wrestler. Does anyone know if Duffee wrestled at the collegiate level?

Nobody’s forgetting Lesnar’s wrestling background, that’s a gimmee, but there have been more decorated wrestlers than Lesnar in the UFC who weren’t fast-tracked like him for the very reasons I gave above.

I have to go with K-dog on this one, I mean we have seen literally 7 seconds of this guy and his opponent basically ran straight into his fist. I am not sold, not even a tiny bit…….

I love how it always comes back to how much people hate Lesnar. People can say what they want, but he will sell more PPVs than any other fighter in MMA history. His name recognition was already making the UFC crazy money. Now that he has people hating him it will be even more. He has people hating him so much they are talking themselves into believing that this guy is qualified to fight him after seeing him hold his left arm out while someone stupid enough to ran into it.
 
Yes Lensar fast tracked, but he has the formula to keep that belt for a long time. Just being as big as him will not come close to doing it. He has figured out how to avoid submissions and throw very effective GnP. Until someone can out wrestle Lesnar they have the same chance this guy would a small punchers chance.

I think it’s funny how everyone falls all over themselves making excuses for Lesnar, but won’t give Duffee the benefit of the doubt. At least wait and see is all I’m saying.
Lesnar was a NCAA champion in 2000, and you think that should automatically translate into a title shot in 2008 after very few fights?
You think PPV buys and how many wrestling fans a guy can bring in should determine if he gets a title shot?
Might as well bring Shaq in next and try to get the b-ball crowd buying fights.
It’s inconsistency in the UFC, every fighter does not get treated the same. Case in point, recently Dana said that Anderson Silva was ‘too big’ for GSP.
WTF?
But it’s ok to let Brock walk into the octagon at 280 lbs and fight Couture around 230lbs??!!
They need another weight class between 205 and 260.

It just sounds like a lot of people will give Brock every benefit of the doubt but Duffee is immediately thrown under the bus. I don’t even want to go into a discussion about propping up a chemically created HW champion.

Enough of this nonsense debate. Let’s just all drink a Duff Beer to that!

KS – I completely agree that there needs to be another weight division there is just not enough depth yet in the HW division in MMA to split it even further. I also think that Randy showed how great he was by being able to handle a guy who outweighed him by 50 plus pounds.

I do think that it was completely unfair that Lesnar got a shot so soon. I thought the same thing when Randy got a few of his shots right after losses.

I even said this kid is has lots of potential but UFC will build him up in order to make the most money off him as possible.

As for Lesnars 2000 NCAA championship… It seems to be working for him, but I think NOG is going to give him some problems.