Not so fast: Dan Henderson not a lock to rematch Anderson Silva

by MMAmania.com on Aug 28, 2009 7:12 AM EDT

One-time UFC number one middleweight contender and dual Pride FC champion, Dan Henderson, could have some competition when it comes to seeing who gets the next crack at middleweight kingpin, Anderson Silva.

It appeared that "Hollywood" was all lined up to rematch "The Spider" after a thundering right hand turned off Michael Bisping's lights at UFC 100 just last month. It was an epic knockout, which had company president Dana White saying that Henderson had done enough to earn another title shot against the Brazilian.

But in recent days White has backed off that claim, leaving the door open for another Brazilian, undefeated jiu-jitsu phenom, Demain Maia.

White announced at the UFC 102: "Couture vs. Nogueira" pre-fight press conference that the winner of the 185-pound bout between Maia and Nate Marquardt would also be under consideration to challenge for Silva's bout in addition to Henderson.

Marquardt, like Henderson, has already tried, and failed, to pry the 185-pound belt from Silva's tummy. He, like Henderson, has rebounded nicely since that time, winning three of his next four fights. Henderson, on the other hand, has been perfect with three straight victories.

So when White says he wants "wait and see" what happens at UFC 102 before making a final decision, he more than likely is curious to see how Maia -- who has never fought Silva -- performs inside the Octagon. He has torn through five straight opponents since his Octagon debut, earning four "submission of the night" bonuses during that span.

If Maia can once come out and finish a bigger, stronger and very well-rounded fighter like Marquardt, and make it look effortless, it wouldn't be surprising to see White insert Maia over Henderson opposite Silva.

Then again, Silva's manager, Ed Soares, recently suggested that he'd like to see Henderson take on the winner of Maia-Marquardt to create a true number one contender and, in the process, eliminate any and all speculation about who deserves to championship opportunity.

We'll find out soon enough -- Maia and Marquardt are set to collide tomorrow night (Aug. 29) in the televised pay-per-view (PPV) card LIVE from the Rose Garden Arena in Portland, Oregon. It's safe to say that there is a lot on the line for both fighters.

Dan Henderson, too.

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it’s obvious, that he doesn’t want to give nate a title shot, if he beats maia..

im thinking ,if he wins they will have nate fight hendo and give the title shot to vitor[if he beats frank]

or if vitor loses’ have him fight nate, and just give dan the title shot~

if all the fighters lose, that the ufc want to win, they could always wait it out and have andy fight at 205 again..

the good thing about andy, is that he can always go up and fight top 205er’s while he is waiting for the true number 1 contender!~

no other champs can do that..

by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 7:24 AM EDT reply actions

Not bad analysis there stink. Dont think Dana wants to give Dan the next shot and he certainly wont get it if Maia wins. Could see Hendo taking on Silva at 105 though. That card’s sh!t and has no main event and is already free on spike. Trying to big up a hendo/silva rematch on PPV would be a tough sell, so could see the uk fans being tossed this fight as a bone, especially as Hendo’s a bit of a boogeyman figure for Bizzzzbing lovers in the Uk.

by attakdog on Aug 28, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions

damn if they fight at 105 that would be crazy.

Dana White:

“This is the craziest fight we’ve ever done; both guys have been locked up in a cellar with nothing but water once every 3 days. They’re starving; and this fight isn’t about money, it’s not about fame, it’s about survival. Winner takes home a bucket of KFC; enough said.”

by O damn he got caught on Aug 28, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Good call stink…I agree with that. If Maia wins and wins impressively then the UFC would give Maia a crack right off the hop I think. If Nate wins then I think they will have him fight Hendo for the #1 contender match while Silva either fights Belfort if he wins or fights at LHW again while we wait for Hendo/Marquardt…which would be a sick fight. I think both Hendo and Marquardt(with a win) has done enough for get garner a title shot but since they’ve already had one…it isn’t as appealing as a new challenger would be like Maia or Belfort.

by Buster Bluth on Aug 28, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions

do you think we will see couture/silva if randy beats big nog?

by scott on Aug 28, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions

imo~ i actually think, if randy beats nog, he will get a rematch against brockness.

that is, if carwin doesn’t have anything to say?

that way, if randy wins the title back, the ufc can hold him in place. but if brockness just crushes him, dana can afford to let him walk to strikeforce.

by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions

I don’t like the idea of having the MW title held up for an excessive amount of time. Henderson is ready to go and is more than viable as a challenger, as is the Marquardt-Maia winner.

by PW on Aug 28, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Great points Stinky, I completely agree mate. Smart move from the UFC to wait for Nate and Maia to fight before announcing who Andy is fighting next, so we can actually have a legitimate contender facing him. Maia’s guaranteed a title shot if he wins impressively, but if he doesn’t then I could see Hendo-Nate main eventing 105 with the winner getting the next shot. As a Maia fan I’m glad that he’s getting the chance to earn a title fight as I was worried that he was going to get snubbed in favour of Hendo, as Andy-Maia is a much more interesting fight to me than Andy-Hendo II/Nate II.

Hopefully we will get a MW title or contender fight as the 105 main event but right now I have pretty much given up on this show having a good card.

by David W-S on Aug 28, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions

And no, the UK fans won’t get this fight at 105; your main event is Bisping vs Kang, co main evented by Me vs Philly Cheese Steak sub.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 28, 2009 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions

Are you hungry or something odamn, you seem to have food on the brain??

by attakdog on Aug 28, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions

I’m just mapping out the evening, planning things out; it’s good to come in with a gameplan, and keep a clear head so that you can execute. Personally because of the size and the fixins I think the Philly Cheese Steak Sub poses some interesting problems for anyone, it’s an intriguing match up. I’m in the best shape of my life and I can deal with it standing or sitting at the table. I’m ready for anything. You UK fans are in for a real treat.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 28, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I dont get it Odamn. How do you plan on getting a Philly cheessteak in the UK? Am I supposed to Fedex you one or something? FYI: there is NO SUCH a thing as a philly cheese steak SUB…Just cheese steaks!

Stink: GOod analysis. I pretty much agree with your entire post.

by john G on Aug 28, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions

John; when Dana contacted me about taking on Philly, I knew it was a well rounded seasoned sub. Could definatley be a smoke screen as you’re suggesting though; as I have no tape on it, but if it is indeed a sub as I’m told, then my sub defense is next to impossible to penetrate. Like I said above, I’m prepared for this to go anywhere; standing, sitting, walking, I’ve trained in all positions. This is the type of show the UK fans deserve, and I’ll bring the pain come 105.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 28, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions

lmsao @ odamn!~

by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions

That’s why OD is a strong #2 on my funny P4P list.

by OJR on Aug 28, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions

who is # 1?

by McArthur on Aug 28, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions

Top 3 funny maniacs

OD
PW
OJR

by McArthur on Aug 28, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions

Lol, we’ve got humor P4P lists now??

1. PW
2. JJ
3. MacAttack
4. VM
5. BNF

Chefdaddy used to post some pretty funny stuff too, but alas, he’s gone AWOL.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions

Lol, we’ve got humor P4P lists now??

1. PW
2. JJ
3. MacAttack
4. VM
5. BNF

Chefdaddy used to post some pretty funny stuff too, but alas, he’s gone AWOL.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions

Lol, we’ve got humor P4P lists now??

1. PW
2. JJ
3. MacAttack
4. VM
5. BNF

Chefdaddy used to post some pretty funny stuff too, but alas, he’s gone AWOL.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions

oh please!

top 3 funny mmanerdz here on mania r~ not including myself’ of course~

mexi
jj
pw

by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions

lol, forgot about mexicutioner; but he gets dropped down a couple places for inactivity. :P

by O damn he got caught on Aug 28, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions

1) PW / Mac (tied)
2) OD
3) JJ
4) Kev
5) Intro (his anti UFC rants are pure gold, I don’t care what anybody says)

Honorable Mention : VM, Alpha, K-Dog, Buster Bluth and Roberto (when defending Tito, also pure gold)

I posted this yesterday, BTW. *

by OJR on Aug 28, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions

LOL, no the best Rob ones are when he’s defending Justin McCully, now those are good. :)

by O damn he got caught on Aug 28, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions

lol @ p4p!

alright p4p funny mmanerds~

1~ me
2~ jj
3~ mexi
4~ pw
5~ john

honarable mention’s od, ojr, chef, mc~art, kev!

lol, at saying vm is funny! u really think he is funny?
vm has great posts, and has been on this site forever[day 1] but c’mon, that doods not funny.

by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions

WTF? Seriously, McCully? LOL!

Off Topic-

Did any of you see the body on T. Silva’s wife last night in the hype special for the upcoming PPV?

Holy juicy booty!

by OJR on Aug 28, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions

VM’ rants about Jason Lambert’s sausage t!ts

Huggie Bear’s humping

He called the Bisping destruction by KO in a very funny manner

He has some funny posts, trust me

by OJR on Aug 28, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions

Stinky-

Mac has to be in your top 5.

Off topic – did anyone see T. Silva’s wife last night on the PPV special?

Wow. What a body.

I could wear that @ss for a helmet!

by OJR on Aug 28, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions

how could u forget mexi?

i remeber back in the day!~ i called mexicutioner, “the mexipoohpusher”

and he called me a fake beatlejuice or something~

those were the good days~ back when mexi and i were beefing!~ lol

some of the newer guys wern’t around for the memory’s of gambling cheese sclices to the day we broke-up!

i still got love for ya!

by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions

ojr, u know i trust u man, but i find him more of a knowledgable poster, that keeps it simple..

sometimes he try’s to crack a joke, and peeps play off of it and it turns funny!

by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions

put it this way!~

ive never shit my pants from lol’ing from a mike noke. i call his joke’s nokes, cause there nofunny..

anyways… i have literally shit my pants from reading what jeremyjackoff writes to some of these peeps’..

if i didn’t shitn’t? u aint on my p4p!~ isn’t that how p4p works?

by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions

Lol OJR, never mind wearing her @ss as a helmet, how about using her sh!t as toothpaste?

by attakdog on Aug 28, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions

ojr, mc-art was a tuff choice.. it came down to him and john..

i gave it to john cause of sinority~ it’s been like 2+ yrs talkin to that fool!~

john always adds good humor to his posts.

pw gets a sinority vote as well, i was thinking of giving mcart his spot too, but same with john, these fools break it down with humor, and i respect their opinions..

my top three was easy!

by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions

lol, RoB’s on my top 10 list but the thing is that he’s there w/o even trying to make a joke to be there. It just happen that his quotes are pure gold 75% of the time, so that makes him at funny mofo too. :)

by Alpha Male on Aug 28, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions

Unintentional comedy is like losing your virginity to your hand — it doesn’t count.

by PW on Aug 28, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions

You guys are hilarious. Great stuff.

by Jeremyjackson on Aug 28, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Stink-John ain’t funny man. He’s too serious with his posts…

by Syd on Aug 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Stinky-

Don’t be sending me a cleaning bill for those pants.

by Jeremyjackson on Aug 28, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

what if it’s a draw?
and either way they will all lose the spider

by Mikeybear on Aug 28, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions

Or they could all fight him and we could stop wasting contenders. Hendo right away, Damion 3 months later, and Vitor after that.

3 matches within 6 months should keep the spider on his toes.

I don’t see why they keep throwing away contenders like this. If Hendo and Damien lose they can fight later to get back in the hunt, but right now they have credibility and a loss removes one of them.

And what if say, Hendo beats Anderson? Who does he fight? Damien or Vitor, 2 fights lined up right away. Unless of course we put those 2 against each other, nullifying ones credibility.

I think they did the right thing bringing Carwin up for Brock while he still has some aura about him. I would have liked to see them not have Cain fight. Then you have an opponent ready for either winner, plus the story line of how Cain has been waiting for Carwin if Carwin gets Brock or how Cain was passed over, and now “It’s his turn to show why he should have been the number 1 contender”

Just my 2cents

by Jas on Aug 28, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions

I say give Hendo the next shot, and then they can still have Nate (cause he should beat Maia) as the next contender. That way they have two fights instead of one, if they were to make Nate/Hendo fight. Who else do they have that is close to a title shot? Vitor will have a hard time with Franklin, and might lose. Wandy hasnt even had a MW fight yet!

by JV on Aug 28, 2009 7:25 AM EDT reply actions

Yeah Agree, winner of Marquardt vs Maia AND Hendo should fight Silva.

by Lester The Pimp on Aug 28, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions

That all depends on how serious Anderson is about retiring. If he has only got a couple of fights left then I don’t want them wasted on rematches.

But they would be good fights to keep him busy (like the forrest fight) between bigger fights if the retiring thing is bs.

by MoonUK on Aug 28, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions

Anyone seen the staredown vid of Fedor n Rogers ? Rogers looks huge! but i doubt that means shit to Fedor

by Insain on Aug 28, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions

Don’t know why Nate would be overlooked if he wins. The guy is one of the best 185ers there is. I understand the desire to have a new talent fight Silva but if a guy deserves a shot a guy deserves a shot. Florian got a second title chance and he is nowhere near Nate talent wise and you could argue the lightweights have a lot more contenders than the middleweights.

by Five Finger Death Punch on Aug 28, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions

Silva aint a big pulling draw, that’s the problem, so making him rematch a guy he so devastatingly beat in the past is a tough sell for the UFC. If Maia wins the UFC can hype that fight much more, greatest striker vs greatest grappler etc.

by attakdog on Aug 28, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions

I’m totally with Anderson’s manager on this. Rushing a title shot is boring. If there are no compelling matches, why rush it? Put Anderson Silva against another 205 guy in the meantime. THAT would be more exciting.

by MMACrossfire on Aug 28, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions

like the winner of Jardine n’ Silva or Vera ? all 3 guys could rape Anderson if they come with there A game

by Insain on Aug 28, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions

Pardon???

by attakdog on Aug 28, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions

Your boy aint fukin invincible! one of these boys will ruin him

by Insain on Aug 28, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions

Not the ones you mentioned, homeboy.

by OJR on Aug 28, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions

FTR insain one, I cant stand AS, but to say any of those guys you listed wold “rape” him is truely insane!

I like Keith but he’d get TKO’d first round, no doubts. Thiago Silva got destroyed by Machida, Silva would do the same. Vera hasn’t brought his A game for about three years now and even if he did, he’d be the one getting a “rapeing”

by attakdog on Aug 28, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions

So Anderson Silva, the man with a 10-0 record in the UFC, clearing out the MW division and smashing 2 LHWs, including a former champion, will get beat by glass jawed Jardine, overrated Thiago Silva (who as K-Dog said just got smashed by Machida) and the overrated and inconsistent Vera who lost to Jardine and couldn’t finish Reese Andy. Whatever man, you really are insane, sorry “insain”.

by David W-S on Aug 28, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Ok maybe not Rape him, but thats what id like to see. Dumb thing for me to say, i admit it.

But god damn, David W-S, you are mad in the head- You actually think Jardine has a glass jaw? fukin hell! im not even gonna explain that one. Leave attackdog out of it cuz his opinion was sensible enough, you said he got smashed by Machida (The unbeaten LHW Champion who nobody can suss) and you think that makes him overrated?

DAVE – the things you say just clearly echo that you have never trained MMA, its that simple.

by Insain on Aug 28, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Mate Jardine can’t take a strong punch, he is always getting rocked or KO’d by heavy handed strikers. He’s had this problem since he debuted. He’s been brutally KO’d by Wiuff, Wandi and Houston as well as been dropped by Rampage and Vera. Compared to the rest of the top 10 LHWs he has a weak chin, nobody else at his level gets dropped as often and in as emphatic fashion as he does.

Thiago’s biggest wins are over Houston Alexander and James Irvin, the latter being due to an injury. He has not beaten any top 10 opponents and the only world-class fighter that he faced destroyed him, yet he is talked about as if he is a title contender. That makes him overrated in my book and he has to prove that he is as good as fans and critics claim and Jardine is the perfect opponent for him to prove himself against.

by David W-S on Aug 28, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Your screen name is obviously a literal reference to your state of mind.

by OJR on Aug 28, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions

You got that right OJR

by attakdog on Aug 28, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions

OJR, thank you very much. I agree it is true, even my nickname for mma will be Insain

by Insain on Aug 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I like that idea…Silva could face a pure striker at LHW like Vera while Dan fights the winner of Nate/Maia for # 1 contender…I think this will happen if Nate wins but if Maia wins he’ll be getting the next shot imo

by McArthur on Aug 28, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions

Soares is right. Hendo should have to fight the winner of the Marquardt / Maia fight. Hendo has already lost badly to Silva and looked silly doing it. Either of the other 2 would make a more interesting and competitive fight for Silva.

by charlyw on Aug 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions

you can say that again, I don’t know why though.

by charlyw on Aug 28, 2009 9:15 AM EDT reply actions

Is there an echo in here lol

by attakdog on Aug 28, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions

If Maia wins, he probably deserves the shot, but I would much rather see Hendo try again. Either that or feed “THE COUNT” to him again just for fun.

by BeerMan on Aug 28, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions

Even Randy Couture believes Henderson has a realistic shot only if his cardio is much improved from the first time they fought.

by Puck Head on Aug 28, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions

dana white back peddling on his own word? NO.

i thought the day would never come…..

by chris on Aug 28, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions

Who has two thunbs and is gonna beat Anderson Silva? Dan Henderson……Glad to meet you.

P.S. What is all the talk about someone fighting at 105? Are we sponsoring kid’s fights now?

by Brian "Die Bisping Die" on Aug 28, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions

Who is the tw@ in the hat that already lost to Anderson Silva? Dan Henderson. Seriously that orginal thread for this picture really got on my nerves, easily the most pointless and biased article on an otherwise excellent website and online community.

by David W-S on Aug 28, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions

ufc 105, champ

by chris on Aug 28, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions

Either way were looking at some good match ups. Nate vs Silva, Maia vs Silva or Hendo vs Silva. No matter who Silva fights, he’s gonna be a big favorite. I personally think Hendo would be his toughest match up but you never know.

by Kdog on Aug 28, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions