Dana White: Anderson Silva is 'too big' for Georges St. Pierre

LOL!

to dana: nobody cares what u think, just make the fight happen.

of course it does, we do not have to see this fight!.. It would take away alot of the mystery about GSp..
Anderson would still beat him if they were the same size

Talking about size I would love to see Randy and Anderson go at it. I know there are a lot of Randy haters out there, but I think this would make for a good match. Randy is a master at game plans and could cause problems for Anderson. Randy would do what Dan did in the first round, but be able to keep it up and possible get the W. If Randy has a convincing win over Nog lets see it. If Randy loses, then not a bad note to retire off of and would do good for Anderson’s legacy. Randy has interest in fighting him and Anderson wants to fight the top of 205. Randy is much better at 205 anyway. If not Anderson lets see him and Machida, just not Brock. Randy has always had problems with bigger guys.

C’mon RoB, lol…“Anderson would still beat him if they were the same size” you got to be kidding? a 225 lbs GSP would squashed your spider.

dana white would rather put the spider against garbage(irvin) to mediocre(griffin) LHW that have no chance against the spider. if spider loses than his whole campaign for p4p king will go down the drain and he worked too hard for that

Stylistically the only thing GSP has over Andy is wrestling and he has dealt with bigger, stronger and more decorated wrestlers than GSP. Silva is a monster on the feet and would clown GSP standing, whilst posing a threat from his back. Randy also doesn’t have the chin or the striking technique to cope with Andy, he is too good for either of them.

That being said, I don’t know what the UFC can do with GSP. He is too big, strong and well rounded for any other WW and the fact that his next fight is going to be against Swick/Kampmann is a joke to be honest. GSP’s future is at 185 and I say if he can prove himself at that weight then have him and Andy fight in a superfight before the legendary Spider retires, but don’t fastrack him to a title shot as GSP-BJ II showed what a disaster that can be.

You’re absolutely right tiko!

Yeah right WideScreen? You seriously think that GSP never face an experience wrestler of 205lbs in training? And you really believe that Silva would clown GSP standing? I guess it’s just like when you thought that Alves would clown him standing up too, huh?

dana will never allow this fight for one main reason, if ando ko’s gsp then retires, it will f up everything. when silva retires, gsp is the heir in waiting. dana can’t risk the damage to the gsp brand. i think it would be good for them no matter who wins or loses. the loser will only get better. gsp and ando have both gotten better with each loss, helping them evolve into the fighters they are today.
 if they ever do fight, give me ando 3 rd ko. none of the guys gsp is fighting are anywhere near ando’s ability striking, and most importantly his footwork and angles would give gsp troubles. gsp is great but could only win by grinding out a decision, silva just has too many different ways to win.

as far as couture, he couldn’t get past chuck’s looping punches 4 or 5 years younger, ando would melt his hair to his head. “would you like some pop-knots with that knuckle-sammich?”

I’m a HUGE GSP fan, as everybody knows, and I don’t think he would beat Silva. His wrestling and takedowns would give him a much better chance than most, and he sure as hell wouldn’t get embarrassed like Forrest.

He would give Anderson a hell of a fight, but the size and speed of Anderson standing up is too much. GSP might win a round or two in top control, but IMO it’s a matter of time ’till he gets caught.

Anderson is not Thiago Alves. He makes every strike count, and is long enough to back up and keep distance on GSP. GSP would have to engage him standing to get the TD, and as good as GSP’s stand-up is, it is not in the same league as Silva’s.

Part of me wants to see this fight happen, but a bigger part doesn’t. Silva has a limited number of fights left, and I want to see him challenged more at LHW or HW. GSP could become an MMA god by winning this fight, but he could also do big damage to his career if he gets smashed, which he probably will.

THANK GOD… I do not want this fight at all, it is a waste of time for Silva,a guy who only has a few fights left supposedly

I don’t think that Dana would be foolish enough just to hand GSP a fight with Silva without seeing how GSP would do at 185. We saw what happened when BJ came up and got manhandled at WW…albeit BJ has fought a WW before.

I think the only way we see Silva vs. GSP is by giving GSP a MW fight against the MW gatekeepers like Belcher, Quarry, or Sonnen maybe. It all depends on how well GSP can actually put the weight on. If he can put it on and still compete at a similar level like Franklin has then we should be able to see that fight but I think GSP should have to fight someone else in the division first.

I totally agree Busta, even a fight against Franklin would be a good way to know what he can do at MW.

I am not convinced GSP would beat Silva but I am certain that fight will happen. I foockin garantee it. After a year or two of absolute supremacy in the welterweight division, the whole mma world (including Dana and GSP himself) will be demanding a real challenger and that will be with Silva because I don’t even see anyone at middleweight able to give him that (don’t argue with me on that, I would immediately take you down and GnP you). But yes I agree he should start with at least one other middleweight first, just so his title shot with Silva appears rightful. It will happen. Mark these words. I know it. Just not right now.

Well, Anderson only has two fights left on his deal after he defends the MW title, then that will be it for him in MMA. We know at least one of those two fights will be at a heavier weight class, which leaves only one fight left on his deal. That fight COULD be against GSP, but considering all parties involved seem less than interested (GSP, Anderson and Dana), it seems unlikely IMO.

I don’t know 2Time GSP even sounded like he didn’t move up weight classes unless he was sure he could handle the extra weight. In the stand up GSP would get worked and even if GSP get’s Silva down I can’t see GSP passing gaurd as you know Silva will have his leg’s wrapped around him once he hit’s the ground much like BJ did only problem is unlike BJ Silva is much bigger and his legs are much longer and I can’t see GSP passing gaurd?

I would like to see GSP try a fight at 185, but not a permananet move there. I am a firm believer in being dominant in your weight class. If nobody can beat GSP at 170, so be it. It’s not his fault he’s so good. Let him establish new records of UFC dominance, I’ll still be excited to see him fight. Sooner or later new threats will come up for him.

Anderson is a much more natural 205’er than GSP is a 185’er, due to his height, frame and skinniness at 185. The comparisons are somewhat redundant. At 5’10 GSP can pack on all the muscle he wants, he’ll still be way undersized compared to the big dogs of the division. Can his freakish athleticism make up for it? Probably, against most MWs. But it simply isn’t where he belongs, and the demands from fans/haters that he go there are unreasonable.

Alpha, fair enough on Thiago but he has a completely different style of striking to Andy. Whilst Alves looks to do as much damage as possible, using muai thai and leg kicks to smash his opponent, Andy is a lot more patient and technical with his strikes, looking for openings before attacking. Whilst Alves is as devastating as any striker, technique wise he is not in the same league as Andy.

As for GSP-Alves I think that the first takedown was Thiago’s undoing as after that he took a physical beating from GSP on top plus he was broken mentally as GSP easily took him down on the first attempt and with that any psychological advantage went out of the window and he became too cautious to do anything standing up because he realised how good a wrestler GSP is. If he threw leg kicks, which are his best weapon, GSP would have caught them and took him down again. The fact that he looked so drained from the weight-cut didn’t help either. The fact is GSP was the better prepared and conditioned athlete who was able to play to his strengths better than Thiago and ultimately dominate the fight.

It was a superb performance but I don’t see Andy suffering from a weight cut as much or having as many problems as adapting his offence to hurt GSP whilst avoid getting taken down. He is a much more intelligent fighter than Thiago and that is why Alves is a top contender instead of a p4p great.

GSP is a freak athlete and easily top 3 p4p but doesn’t have the size or strength to deal with a huge and dominant champion like Andy.

By the way mate W-S are my initals (for Warnock-Smith), they don’t stand for WideScreen. I only use them because there are several other Davids and Daves on this site and I didn’t want anyone to get my posts confused with theirs.

David, Pull your stupid head out of your ass. There is no better wrestler in the ufc than GSP. SIlva wpould struggle mightily on the ground with GSP.

Excellent post odamn

As I said many times, A 200lbs GSP would’ve take down the spidey at will. F’n White just try to covering his a$$ in case GSP would beat his P4P king. That would make the entire UFC a joke since they are talking that Silva might be able to beat Brock. So imagine if he win(Silva/Brock)… the MW champ that can beat everyone at LHW and can beat the HW champ, losing to the WW champ, Damn it would be way too much chaotic for Dana.

Kampmann is certainly no Cote or Leitas. As an undersized MW it was him not Okami that was supposed to fight Rich Franklin to determine the #1 contender but he trashed his knee. Since his return his only loss was to Marquardt a guy that dwarfed him in the cage. That is his only loss in the octagon and he comes to fight. How is he anything like a guy that has lost almost as many fights as he’s won in the UFC or a guy that lays on his back for 25 minutes?

I’m not knocking Kampmann, but I don’t see how he beats GSP; same with Swick, the comparison wasn’t about the fighters as much as it was about the gap in skill and talent between champion and challenger. Swick and Kampmann are about as threatening to GSP as Leites and Cote were to Silva. There’s really not much excitement imo in either of those guys fighting Georges, I don’t see either one beating him or even giving him a run for his money.

Both good fighters, but I don’t think either of them even sees the championship round, unless GSP just decides to LnP for a while to make sure everyone gets their money’s worth.

O damn he got caught: absolutly. I agree with you 100% on both comments.

Swick has the height, length and hand speed to at least make it an interesting match-up, but yeah. Very little chance of success.

Nice one getrawbc.

Spot on PW. It’s just water that’s lost. That makes up for lost weight. The muscle and tissue are virtually the same…

I’ve been saying Silva is too big foe a while now, GSP really would have a hard time! Lots of good news today. I had a “run in” last night at target. a guy in a Kimbo tapout shirt told me mmamania sucked (I had my mania t shirt on). being the loyal guy I am, instead of ignoring him, I tried to find out why. Dude was a moron!

you should have said “yeah and kimbo is the next heavyweight champion” laughed and walked away..

The guy was wearing a Kimbo t-shirt and was a Moron? Surely not Kev, what are the chances of that

Was the guy also wearing a fake foam rubber Taco Bell Parking Lot Champion belt? Maybe a white The Ultimate Fighter 10 participant ribbon?

Did he also have a chest wig made out of pan scourers???

*only

lol, the “only” goes with another post guys!

I know a genitalia wig is called a mirken, but what’s a chest wig called?

was he wearing his mccdonalds name tag saying “john G”?

Dunno P-Dub, where’s Tom Jones when you need him.

lol BB, funniest comment yet. It was humorous, I’m not loyal to too many things or people, but mania is one one those things.
He said he prefers sherdog as comments go right up and here they don’t. I told him that weeds out moronic comments like 90% of the ones on sherdog… he wasn’t buying it and I think he realized I was referring to him.

LMAO

Buster by KO.

He does not have to be afraid of standing up with A. Silva to get KO’ed.

I don’t understand your point.

ojr you seem to think gsp is the same fighter that fought serra the first time, he has evolved more than anyone in mma including anderson. The standup is like night and day when comparing the first serra fight with his standup now. I think he can easily hang with any world class mma striker, even if he wanted to do pure standup with alves , i still think he wins that battle. saying that gsp is not stupid, anderson would still have an advantage striking, so he would not engage him primarily striking, what gsp does is mix up his striking with takedowns, like when he fought alves as soon as alves start throwing he gets taken down,soon fighter get tentative, and dont know when gsp will hit them or take them down, so gsp clowns them standing . Gsp is on another level as far as athleticism goes compared to even anderson, he would be faster and even quicker than anderson. LHWs like jardine have stated before that he is stronger than most lhws, he has to have more fast twicth fibers in his body than anyone in mma, who in mma is stronger Pnp THAN gsp, his strenght is incredible doing dozen of pullups with 145 lb strapped to his waist, and who has a 40 inch vertical in mma like him. If he weighs within 20 lbs of anderson he is going to be stronger, and faster than andy. he would certaingly test anderson, and nothing would shock me that he does, he improves evry time he fights, and hasnt even hit his prime yet.

Nice breakdown.

And I know GSP has evolved. He is great like that.

But so is A. Silva.

for the record!~ i have never picked against gsp..

and he is also in my top 5 fav’s..

that is the reason i wouldn’t want him to fight andy..

no point in him taking a loss, when he can just go out undefeated, on top.

imo~ andy would dominate gsp.. like dana said ’he’s too big"

im happy watching gsp dominate the ww division..

GSP would give A. Silva a very difficult time, no doubt.

However, physics dictate that two equally skilled combatants are then offset by :

a) mental toughness (no edge here)

b) physical frame (edge to A. Silva, being the naturally larger person)

I am going by an objective view, Alpha.

I think GSP is world class and have posted so on many, many occasions.

Alpha-

Got a response for you. In mod.

lol, bring it on, b

I disagree with that again, guys! If GSP would take the fight he would be at 200lbs or heavier, so your argument of bigger physical frame would go strait to the garbage. The stats of GSP said that he’s at 5’10" but I can tell you that in reality he’s pushing for the 6’ and that’s the reason why he got only 2" reach difference with the spider.

Alpha. GSP is between 5’10 and 5’11. For real. Check out the pics of him standing next to Florini at Tri-Star. And yeah, he can bulk up with more muscle, but he still won’t be anywhere near the NATURAL frame size of Silva. Anderson is simply WAY bigger than Georges and it isn’t a fair fight.

jj i agree that anderson would beat GSP he has too much lenght, and he could problably keep the distance from gsps takedowns, but if anderson tries to come forward and attack i think gsp would instantly take him down, so he would have to fight a long range battle with gsp, trying to pick him apart, and moving. Its hard for me to see how this would play out, anderson has allways been the superior athletically and speed wise to anyone he has fought, but gsp is just a freak of nature, and genetically he is more gifted than anyone in mma. anderson doesnt improve as much as gsp from fight to fight , no one does . i think gsp hasnt even hit his prime yet, i am amazed how gsp evolves evry time he fights, I really think GSP would be more explosive and faster than even anderson if they fought, during filming of gatorade commercial he was serious challeging usain bolt for 30 meter dash, nothing gsp does would suprise me, he combines the quickness of a LW with the strenght of a LHW, with unstopable takedowns, unmatched athleticism in mma history, He doesnt have andersons standup, but anyone that fights him standing has to constantly guard for takedowns, so that neutralizes the few people that have a standup advantage against him since they cant engage gsp without going down. He is even more well rounded than anderson. i would still pick anderson, but i still wouldnt bet against GSP, not with his work ethic, combined with him being the most genetically, athletically talented fighter in mma .

Yep, nice post dtoto. Anderson is just a different animal than anybody GSP has been in with, and vice versa. Anderson has TRUE world-class striking, not just MMA world-class striking, and with the size advantage it is just too much IMO. But I would never bet against my boy GSP.

ahh, that’s better JJ. I would put $ on GSP on this fight for sure. I don’t believe your beliefs though.

I wouldn’t put money ON GSP, I just wouldn’t put any against him either. It wouldn’t feel right.

JJ im with you, like both fighters, and as usuall your analysis is right on, that anderson being so long, with world class striking would keep gsp at a distance, and try to pick him apart. Like you said though i would never bet against gsp, but if anderson fights machida, i would say machida picks him apart.

JJ im with you, like both fighters, and as usuall your analysis is right on, that anderson being so long, with world class striking would keep gsp at a distance, and try to pick him apart. Like you said though i would never bet against gsp, but if anderson fights machida, i would say machida picks him apart.

or, to the towel!

They both wanted it real bad.

lol, I agree alpha, but what percent chance would you (honestly) give GSP against silva? I’ll say 30%, and that may surprise some people how high a percent I give. I think in this day and age size makes a big difference, unlike the early days of the UFC. Lesner and gsp/penn proved that!

lol, honestly… I would give him 51% chance of winning. You guys are right for saying that size being a huge factor in todays fights. But I know my boy would be close to Anderson weight coming to that fight.

lol, that 1% is because you’re from canada right?
I’ll be emailing you later on today alpha!

I give him a 52% Chance. 51 because I think he would GNP Silva for 5 rounds easy, and 1 percent for Canadian.

lol. Hendo is a bigger better wrestler, so I say no! but who knows, stranger things have happened, you ever see GSP/Serra 1? lol

lol @ Hendo bigger? A chance that you BJ nuthuggers have the Sera fluke reference for any type of situations, b/c saint GSP would be more than a plague for y’all.

come on alpha, don’t pull a John! I didn’t say Hendo is more talented than GSP, just bigger! The serra reference wasn’t a knock on GSP (I swear), just an example of anything can happen!

Adam if BJ moves to WW even with GSP gone he won’t be champ. Fitch, Kos, Alves, Swick, Kampmann and even Ben Saunders would own Pudgy. Forget BJ and WW, they don’t mix well Bro. I like that you are a die-hard no matter who it is for, but BJ and his fans need to forget it.

HA! if bj WERE as big as those just named he would demolish all of them. size matters in certain situations.

omoplato is that not the point? Of course none of the guys I named are great, but they would beat BJ with size alone. I was saying BJ is good but he needs to stay at LW.

I disagree, I don’t think there are too many ww’s other than GSP that could dominate BJ like that!