Fedor Emelianenko has nothing to prove to no one
by Adam Wagner on Aug 27, 2009 9:37 AM EDT
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Props: YouTube.com
Quoteworthy:
"Brett Rogers is a very strong opponent. He is a great opponent. And he has a really very heavy knockout punch. I do not read all the rumors and gossip that is published on the Internet. To tell you the truth, the offer from the UFC was not really the worthy one. And if they are able to give us a really good offer then maybe [one day] we could agree. Frankly speaking, when I am in the cage or ring I don’t feel like I have to prove something. There are a lot of people around me who feel I do, but I don’t think so. When I come into the ring or cage the only thing I’m thinking about is is Russia (and representing it). So I don’t think that I need to prove anything."
Recent Strikeforce acquisition and the last man to hold the PRIDE FC heavyweight title, Fedor Emelianenko, doesn’t feel he has anything to prove, even if those around him do. The reigning World Alliance of Mixed Martial Arts (WAMMA) heavyweight champion next faces the heavy-handed Brett Rogers in what will be the Russian’s Strikeforce debut. Rogers is fresh off a devastating 22-second knockout of former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski, which pushed his record to 10-0. Does he have enough weapons to take out "The Last Emperor" who is nearly perfect in 30 fights or will Emelianenko prove once again that he is indeed the best fighter in MMA today? Perhaps more important, will he ever be able to prove that without ever stepping foot inside the Octagon?
Check out the complete video interview with Fedor after the jump.
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Until you improve our UFC record from 0-0. I dont care who you fight. It just doesnt matter anymore.
by FlossinBigBossin on Aug 27, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lmao did anyone noitice when douche bag ariel said fuedor like a moron (trying to sound russian) Fedor looked at him like he was a douche and chucled. watch the video, it’s 5 seconds in!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahahahha the look that Fedor gives him is funny
by ThiagO on Aug 27, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it how he says whenever i step in the ring or cage….but hes never fought in a cage ever and its alot more difficult then a ring
by JG on Aug 27, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
350 posts, for a guy that everyone claims they don’t care for any more, you guys have a hard time showing it.
by jay on Aug 27, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but 150 of them are 80’s and 90’s wwf wrestler names! lol
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea but Ariel is still probly the best mma interviewer out there(seriously name one that doesn’t horribly suck). Very original and mainly doesn’t suck because he actually knows MMA and plus he’s given us gold such as “How’s taste my big peepee.”
by NameNotRequired on Aug 27, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WEll I like the interviewer for the Oregonian better…
And oh Fyodor, the cage is where you need to be at boy! Get your as$ to the UFC. I’m sure the UFC gave you a worthy offer. It’s just that your crappy management is just too thick!
by Syd on Aug 27, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Dana White just announced at the 102 presser that Penn/Sanchez is definitely off for 105. He says they are doing that fight at a THIRD event in November, probably Nov 7, to counter-program Fedor’s Strikeforce debut. He also says the event is going to be neither PPV OR Spike TV, meaning he must have some new network TV deal. November is looking crazy for MMA.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin, true that was the wrestling hay-day. You guys forgot my all time faves though.
B Brian Blair and Jumpin’ Jim Brunzell the Killer Bees.
by jay on Aug 27, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana also hinted that Hendo is NOT guaranteed the next shot at Anderson, and that they he would reevaluate the MW title picture after the Marquardt/Maia fight.
Translation: if Maia wins, he’s next over Hendo. If Marquardt wins (and I think he will), who knows… probably Hendo.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it looks like:
Nov 7) UFC network TV debut, Penn/Sanchez
Nov 7) Strikeforce Fedor/Rogers event (Showtime, PPV in Can)
Nov 15) UFC 105 (Spike, Sportsnet in Can)
Nov 15) Pacquiao/Cotto (HBO PPV)
Nov 21) UFC 106: Lesnar/Carwin (PPV)
Holy crap!!! Three straight weekends of pure unadulterated awesomeness!
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
^^^Make that Nov 14 instead of 15. But same sentiment of stokedness still applies.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You take out that stupid boxing and you got yourself one heck of a month. WHoooo.
by jay on Aug 27, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Pac/Cotto is going to be epic. Best boxing fight in years.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pacman-Cotto is a sick fight and I’d rather watch that than the piss poor UK card, thanks for nothing BJ out of pure spite I hope that SF get a bigger audience for Fedor-Grim than the UFC get for BJ-Diego. Hopefully Andy will save this lackluster card by defending the belt, right now I don’t care who it is as long as I get to see the greatest p4p fighter fight live, although seeing him against Maia would be a bonus, if that happened then I’d be screaming louder and in a higher pitch than teenage girls at a Take That concert.
by David W-S on Aug 27, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. The only nice thing about BJ bailing on 105 for me is that I get the UK events at 11am here in Vancouver, and it’s hard for me to gewt pumped for fights at that time of day. Now I can just chill, watch a pretty weak UK card in the morning, and prepare myself for drunken revelry at night with the Pac-man fight. Sucks for you guys though, David. I feel your pain bro.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PAcman is just waaaay too fast for Cotto. Just ny 2 cents[it’s free]..
by Syd on Aug 27, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
syd is right, pac is waaay faster and just better all around, than cotto!~
boxing has nothing great to offer anymore..
i want to see pacman/pretty boy~ but that will NEVER happen..
cross-promo will be the final blow for boxing.. ko style~
if there was ONLY one top boxing promotion, boxing could live!~ thats why the ufc lives strong!~
cross promo will be the reason we will NEVER see pac/floyd!~
cotto/pac will still be an entertaining bout, but thats just cause we get to see pacman put on a clinic..
~
by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think so, Stinky.
Cotto will body attack Pac and cause him alot of problems.
Cotto took a shellacking from a “cast amplified” Margarito for 11 rounds.
Pacman’s power will not pose a problem.
by OJR on Aug 28, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, we disagree once again my friend~
remember i said this, and get back to me after the fight.
pacman will completely dominate cotto.. “pure clinic style”
boxing has lost all its suspense!~
by stinky~fingers on Aug 28, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did they say her name was Tanya or Rosanne Barr?
by BeerMan on Aug 27, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Fedor
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Aug 27, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys saying boooo or boooo-urns?
by Buster Bluth on Aug 27, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how he keeps responding to these internet rumors. He never did that before but now that everyone is trashing him for ducking real competition he keeps trying to explain that the UFC offer wasn’t good enough and that he has nothing to prove. LMAO you have nothing to prove because you continue to fight cans to avoid actual competition. The problem I have is that Fedor holds the UFC to higher standards. He keeps touting that the UFC didn’t provide him an adequet offer although I’ll bet you anything that the UFC contract offer blew the Strikeforce offer out of the water. I’m glad Fedor found the most important clause of his contract was that he be allowed to go over to DREAM yearly to fight freakshow fights, must have missed the memo where that made sense for the UFC. Please just continue not worrying about pressure or proving yourself Fedor because while your not worried about that the majority of the hardcore fans won’t worry about who your fighting seeing as how after two fights you’ll have nobody left thats even close to top ten to fight.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 27, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this is accurate, I’d agree nog/couture is the best bet for a title shot. Cro cop or dos santos’s names are being thrown around, but I don’t see it. I’m a huge cro cop fan, but he has no ground game, Brock will take him down and pound him out easily (but that may be the case with everyone)!
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-15531-Long-Island-MMA-Examiner~y2009m8d27-Randy-Couture-vs-Big-Nog-may-be-for-a-title-shot
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kevin, that is how you pronounce his name in russian, Fyodor Emelianenka, everybody says Emelianenko anyway and so do I but atleast call him Fyodor..
by RoBerto on Aug 27, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know robeto, watch the tape though. I speak english (as does ariel) so I pronounce things in english. I don’t try to put a russian accent on it. Even Fedor chuckles at him! just an observation.
example, my wife’s grandmother is mexican, when I’m trying to communicate with her, I don’t start rolling R’s and shit!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I pronounce everything in Russian because everyone respects me and thinks I’m in the mob.
by Jerry Wacko Jacko on Aug 27, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s fighting can’s cogito? roger’s resume is as good as carwin’s. carwin has beat gonzo, thats it. roger’s has beaten aa, thats it. aa is a former champ in the ufc though so he may even have a slightly better resume. i said on the post earlier that you can’t call fedor a pussy for not signing with the ufc, without calling lesnar, carwin, cain, etc pussies for signing with the ufc when affliction had a better hw division at the time they signed. if they wanted to fight the best they should have been trying to fight fedor then.couture was the ufc champ at the time and said fedor was the best. the ufc didn’t even have anyone to beat him at the time. i don’t think any of them are pussies, i just think they done what was best for them at the time. just don’t have a double standard when it comes to fedor.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 27, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t see them giving Randy another shot already if he wins. If Nog wins, I could see him getting the next shot.
It’s probably the same for Maia/Marquardt. If Nate wins, they’ll probably give him another contender. If Maia wins, he’ll probably get a shot. The UFC can better sell a guy that Anderson hasn’t already destroyed, and they can hype it with the “best striker in the world vs best grappler in the world” scenario.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
couture is the only guy able to control Brock in the wrestling, I could see it for ppv sales alone
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ, from the UFC’s point of view giving Couture a title shot if he wins makes PERFECT sense.
If he beats Lesnar (or Carwin), by UFC contract he cannot leave the UFC.
If he loses the title shot, any alure of him fighting Fedor will be all but killed.
by WB on Aug 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I’m Biased but Randy did not control him in the wrestling, it was even or Brock had the upper hand.
by jay on Aug 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ll see, Kev and WB. I did consider that scenario, but I have a feeling Randy will win, and he won’t get a shot. I bet his last UFC fight is at LHW.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buttcrack I said he’d be out of legit fights after two fights (Alistar and Roger) the only two top tens that Fedor has to fight with strikforce. It would help if you read my post. Also I’m not saying Fedor is a pussy cause I know he can beat anyone in the UFC, I’m saying because he choose to take the cheap way out and pretend like the UFC didn’t give him a great offer that he’s a pussy. In regards to calling Brock and everyone who signed with the UFC one is even funnier imo. My question to you is should they have joined a company that was bound to go bottom up in less than two years? Barnett may have been the straw that broke the camels back but Affliction was going bankrupt long before that.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Aug 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no you said he is continuing to fight cans. his last fight was arlovski who was ranked no3 hw at the time and he was scheduled to fight the no2 ranked hw last. if you’re saying he’ll be fighting cans after rogers and overeem, i’ll agree to that. my point is if you say he’s a puss you have to call those guys out for the same reason, fighting less comp when there is better. i do disagree you think he will beat brock, just because of the size issue. him fighting brock is like gsp fighting fedor. i believe brock would win 8 out of 10.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 27, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Fedor takes this via knockout. Or he will at least drop Rogers. Like he did with Tim Sylvia. Rogers has power punches but I see Fedor being way too fast for Rogers on the feet and we all know that Fedor would dominate on the ground as well.
by RyanHobbs on Aug 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree. I got a feeling he is gonna duck the UFC. He is an amazing fighter but he is the most protected fighter i the world. Go Rodgers 2nd round KO!!!
by L-Bo on Aug 28, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he definatly isnt proving anything fighting another can
by sac165 on Aug 27, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now come on Brett Rogers is hardly a can. Perhaps not a worthy opponent but not a can. He beat AA remember.
by boz on Aug 27, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and Serra beat GSP, but agreed Rogers is no can.
by Dixon on Aug 27, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FEDOR is going to kill ROGERS but that doesn’t prove anything except that he wants to look good by fighting lesser fighters in STRIKEFORCE and he’s a PU$$Y.
by TaPouT on Aug 27, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s the man.
Very much looking forward to this fight and his fight against Overeem. After that…We’ll see.
by Maynard on Aug 27, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hold on. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves with with an Overeem fight. We all know that probably won’t happen at Overeem’s rate.
by UFC Champ on Aug 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta say that I am 100% sure that the UFC’s offer was great. I’m also 100% sure it was the same if not better than Randy or Brock (who are making 5 million a fight). I’ll go back and get the PPV scale that Randy gets, I read it a while back and it surprised the hell out of me. It was something like 3 bucks per ppv over 300k plus base pay. There is no way strikeforce can match that (unless they plan on folding).
as far as Rogers, he has a punchers chance, we’ve never seen his ground game. He hits like a truck, is quick and definitely a worthy opponent!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here’s a break down
http://www.tsn.ca/mma/story/?id=221772
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on there kevin… you think he would have turned down a GUARENTEED 5 million for one fight? extremely doubtful, and also, his contract probably did not guarentee that he would make the same amount for his next fight, and they also most likely wanted to keep him out of any other promotion/tournament such as sambo, etc.
by brendan on Aug 27, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
idk if rogers actually hits all that hard though, he’s knocked out 1 man that is any good in arlovski, and that’s a man who has always had a suspect chin so you can’t base his power off that, and he fought a bunch of cans before that at least when carwin beat gonzaga it was a man that had a great chin
by randy murders on Aug 27, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah a man who only had one notable win himself against a guy must people on here bash and says sucks now.so who has gabe even beat than?
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here’s the thing, these guys are all professional athletes.
“who had GG beat?”
“who has fedor beat?”
etc
come on guys. No matter who they fight, to put on a winning streak is hard in professional sports. Grim is 10-0 and you say against who. I don’t care! Yes he’s green, but to win 10 fights in a sport where “anything can happen” is impressive!
who has carwin beat? Look at Randy’s record. God damn I’m hot right now.
Lebron is top 3 NBA player right now…he’s never won a championship, does that take away from his skills?
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i completely agree wtith you on that, i was only using the logic most people on here use. it is close to impossible for guys to have a long unbeaten streak anyone who steps in the cage is a badass(some more than others) and is a threat there are no easy fights and every win counts.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed! a lot of the difference between pro athletes isn’t the skill level, but the mental toughness!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if anyone else has posted this yet, but apparently Strikeforce is setting up Jacare/Lawler for the November Fedor card. Jacare by submission.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know, thanks my man, and spot on for the prediction.
by Alpha Male on Aug 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, understood. There was never any doubt, bro.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good fight JJ, looks like Lawler’s getting submitted once again shame for him because he’s a good fighter but can’t compete on the ground with quality BJJ fighters like Shields and Jacare.
Kevin spot on, honestly some people have made ridiculous comments because Fedor didn’t sign with the UFC. Don’t get me wrong, Fedor deserves to be bashed for caring more about M-1 than his fans by signing for a SF instead of the UFC, but I don’t understand why SF are being blamed. Their HW division is weak and there is little competition for Fedor but I don’t hold it against them for signing a quality fighter, I was annoyed when Coker hinted that Fedor would fight weaker opposition but Rogers is a legitimate opponent. Grim is an undefeated with an impressive win over his only name opponent, just like Cain and Carwin and I bet if Fedor was matched up with either of those 2 then nobody would be calling them cans. The hypocrisy displayed in Fedor posts these days is baffling.
by David W-S on Aug 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said Kevin u know exactly what u r talking about
by zack on Aug 27, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has ko’d abongo humphry james thompson jon murphy and stopped arlovski with punches. he also has 3 early straight ko’s and 9from 10 wins are ko’s or tko’s and the other win is submission due to punches. yes he has heavy hands. dont fool yourself boy. but his footwork sucks
by the heat on Aug 28, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how the air is way up on that pedestal…prick
by ~Savage~ on Aug 27, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes well he is on his pedestal you can suck his…
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya that is the first think you’d think isn’t it….nut-hugger
by ~Savage~ on Aug 27, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you were the one talkin about pricks.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 27, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you do, i was stealing one of your lines sorry.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFC was not the worthy on? I have to guess he was offered a lot more money to fight in the UFC than SF. Besides, now that he is in the EA SPorts MMA game he doesn’t have a chance with the UFC. After all, didn’t Dana say noone who signed on with that game would fight in the UFC? He had to honor Randy’s contract and I’m sure he will not re-sign him to be in the UFC since he too is in the game. Yeah right…fat chance of keeping his word. If you draw the line in the sand, you’re not supposed to erase it.
by BeerMan on Aug 27, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think Mirko signed to the EA Sports M.M.A. game, and he was still signed.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
by Madnuts on Aug 27, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy did that a while back. It’s not like he signed it while he was in the UFC. Ever wonder why Randy aint in UFC Undisputed??
by RyanHobbs on Aug 27, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s more or less how many top fighters feel.
Too many fans get the fight game twisted.
Once he’s in the cage or ring, it’s just another fight.
No doubt.
by Vee on Aug 27, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or is that “Fedor doesn’t care about anyone”.
When i use the word anyone i mean fans
by Dixon on Aug 27, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can someone be called a champion that is afraid to fight?
Best pound for pound scared little Russian ON THE PLANET.
He knows the first UFC fight would end the rumors that he is a fighter at all. He may have once been a fighter, but not now. Go back to Russia or like the wall you will fall.
by Tuna Man on Aug 27, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah he fought the #3 ranked hw in his last fight, and was scheduled to fight the #2 after that, sounds like he’s afraid to fight to me too.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 27, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“or will Emelianenko prove once again that he is indeed the best fighter in MMA today?”
I’m sorry how can he be when he is not fighting the best. I am not saying that he is hiding from anybody but he can’t be classed as the best in MMA today when he is not fighting the best. Brett Rogers is not the best.
by Nuts on Aug 27, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, so before the UFC gave him a deal, he was in everyones top 3 best P4P fighters, but since he turned it down, all of a sudden he’s not one of the greatest? As if all his past victories have juss disappeared, and his record isn’t 30-1?
Come on people, he may not have the very best competition in the world, but give respect to where it’s needed.
This man is a legend of the sport.
by Madnuts on Aug 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is carwin the best?is he ranked 2 or 3 ?
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is the best.
What’s he supposed to do, clone himself?
It’s lonely at the top.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel that way when I post intro. unlike you and John, i’m unbiased, open to criticism and make the most sense, yet I get bashed all day long! Me and Fedor have a lot in common!
by the way, I agree with you on this topic and think Rogers is just as worthy as anyone for Fedor’s first fight in a year. that said I wish he’d fight more often against better guys every time too!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you get bashed because you actually think your unbiased and make the most sense.
but i agree with you on this fight.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bro, it was a joke, but I am! I don’t blindly like someone. I’m a huge penn fan and admitted he was a baby and wasn’t gonna beat GSP. I don’t like GSP at all and admit he’s probably the best and most dominant WW ever! I take what you guys say and use it to form better opinions. As much as I’m hated here (because as OJR said “it’s fashionable”) I’m here to learn and spread any knowledge I may have!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer john, kevin and intro’s posts to all of the nonsense troll stuff that I have to wade through sometimes.
Everyone here is a biased fanboy so I don’t see the reason for all the hate.
Disagree but don’t bash somebody because you disagree.
Opinions are never based on facts, and that’s why debates can be fun.
BTW Intro, get ready to type this out, buddy :
OJR is KING!
:)
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to piss on the hornets nest here but I lol at shogun post. It’s kinda true Kevo, that’s probably why you getting bashed on most of the time. But still you are in my top 5 fav of jokester(peps with the best humour) anyway.
1. JJ
2. P-Dub
3. OD
4. Mac
5. Kevo
by Alpha Male on Aug 27, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw you Alpha, you told me I was your fave ;-)
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ranking him 5 will even hurt his ego, dam it he is the “best eva” in my baroni voice.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
piss away alpha. If I’m biased, I hate to hear what John is. I think I’m not because I’m open to hear and take seriously all opinions and at times change mine because of some of you guys’ insight!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) PW / Mac (tied)
2) OD
3) JJ
4) Kev
5) Intro (his anti UFC rants are pure gold, I don’t care what anybody says)
Honorable Mention : Alpha, K-Dog, Buster Bluth and Roberto (when defending Tito, also pure gold)
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, TOP 5??? NOT TOP 3? you happy shogun?
actually alpha’s list is good. OJR is classic and I do actually enjoy some of intro’s posts (yes I’ll admit it).
chefdaddy is good too and NC-17 (although not here anymore) was always good!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6. Busta
7. RoB
8. OJR
9. BeerMan
10. JRE b/c he’s a dumba$$
by Alpha Male on Aug 27, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like alpha too, he makes sense and the romo links are priceless!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry K-Dog i’ll put ya on # 10 instead of JRE!
Kev, I was just messing with ya buddy!
by Alpha Male on Aug 27, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My deepest apologies to VM.
When real life does not get in the way and he has a chance to post, alot of his stuff is very funny.
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun-
The list was for funny posts.
BTW I agree, Rev.’s posts are very good.
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
#9. I can live with that. Speaking of people who just log on to bash other’s opinions, where is that"carnage" person that was just being agrumentative to everyone…especially Kevin.
by BeerMan on Aug 27, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s classic. he doesn’t have opinions, just disagrees with everyone!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe one day I will make it into somebodies top 10… Does anyone else agree with me that Rogers only has a punchers chance? I think Fedor will be just way too quick for him on the feet!
by RyanHobbs on Aug 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who put these lists together? Bloody elbow & USA today? Their shit is always way off!
Anyways, I enjoy just about everyone’s posts, this site is about differnet opinions. I hate when it gets into dirty name calling and mindless bandwagon jumping without someone supporting their views properly.
by UFC Champ on Aug 27, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, USA Today has me #2. Apparently I haven’t taken out enough top-ten guys. But I’m workin’ on it…
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 27, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that M1 is treating Fedor like a circus freak show. He isn’t here to look pretty or hit the mitts for fans or even some idiotic exhibition match which i would call a school girl slap box match. GIVE ME A BREAK PUT HIM TO FIGHT UFC STRIKEFORCE WHO CARES! LETS SEE WHATS HE’S GOT.\
aLREADY. LETS SEE SOME FKN ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!
by Carnage on Aug 27, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s booked for Rogers later this year.
What else you want?
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think Brett Rogers is better than Alistair Overeem. Gime a break Alistair ahsn’t even defended that belt in years. He aint Worthy. Fedor and Alistair??? I don’t know
by Carnage on Aug 27, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Question for you guys that seem to hate Fedor so much…
If there is one fighter in the world that Fedor could beat tomorrow to gain your respect, who would that fighter be?
I’d be interested to read your responses.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see he and Brock. Not that I think Brock could beat him, just because I think Brock’s size will give anyone problems!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys are funny
jimmy “super fly” snukka
the only reason I said that is he was wrestling jake “the snake” in my dream last night!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Big Sexy” Kevin Nash. (His words, not mine lol)
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quality OJR, I counter with “Canada’s Strongest Man” Dino Bravo
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
barry horrowitz (while patting self on back)
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Man of a Thousand Moves – Dean Malenko
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am off to lunch.
Thanks, Alpha.
BTW, if PW was here, he would kill us both!
;)
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
since no one else said it,
the HULKSTER, brother
whatcha gonna do, when hulkamania runs wild on you?
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John G —-By rear-naked poke (I mean choke)
by CaptainAmerica on Aug 27, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MANKIND , DUDE LOVE, & CACTUS JACK IN A BATTLE ROYAL!!!
by d*locc on Aug 27, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RIKISHI OR BUTCH & LUKE FROM THE BUSHWACKERS!!!
by d*locc on Aug 27, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you mention old wrestlers and ignore the man, the myth, the legend, the Shockmaster. Or the Yeti.
by David W-S on Aug 27, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Legion of doom i dont know if it was said already
by zack on Aug 27, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor boy[who lasted like 48 seconds with the Ultimate Warrior.
Or Mr Perfect!
by Syd on Aug 27, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
canada’s greatest athlete IRON MIKE SHARP LMAO
by FedorFightsJapeneseSoupCans on Aug 28, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol with or without chain saw and nail gun?
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was going with Jason’s alpha!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO, I just realize that it was with Jason’s.
by Alpha Male on Aug 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never mind… damn I must be to high right now!
by Alpha Male on Aug 27, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol Alpha, get with the programme!
Jason Bourne
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Attakdog, not much love for Jason Grimshaw on here!
by MoonUK on Aug 27, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol Moon, I thought I’d throw it in there, see if anyone got it. Thankfully you turned up. Think they all must be David Platt fans on here instead lol
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha..Out of all the funny answers your just stood out!
by MoonUK on Aug 27, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think Jason Thacker would be his best test!
by pwilson on Aug 27, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but i did put jason williams (with gun)
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn this Ariel guy looks like a str8 up DORK. you know he couldn’t last one sec in the ring with a girl
by Carnage on Aug 27, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brock got a title shot with a record of 2-1 because he gives good head.
by Bryan139 on Aug 27, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is a pansy! I used to like him and respect him as a fighter but the last 3 or 4 years he avoids fighting any opponent that poses any real threat. Yes Fedor you do have A LOT to prove!!!!
by Wes on Aug 27, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AA and Timmy posed a threat until Fedor walked through them.
Why is that his fault?
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither one of these guys can take a good punch. I’m sure it was a very calculated decision on his part to fight these two UFC has-beens. They were both brief title holders in the UFC. Titleholders, not champions, because there is a HUGE difference. JUst ask Buster Douglass, he knocked out MIke Tyson, never did a thing in his career before that or after. Fedor avoids competition like it’s the bubonic plague
by Wes on Aug 27, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were top 5 HW’s when Fedor walked through them both.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a big point most are missing. The entire HW division, promotion to promotion, has warts. Contenders are being propped up with very skimpy bodies of work. Championship fights pit champs vs suspect competition. By far, HW is the weakest division for talent. Like boxing, the top HW should be “the baddest man on the planet”, and be the guy that captures interest of new fans, but instead we have kind of a mess….A top guy fighting a small band of suspect contenders….another top guy without much experience also fighting suspect contenders, and a few guys with some potential being rushed to the big stage too early, and before they have earned it in all fairness. Problem is, they are there by default, as there is no one else due to the weakness of the division.
by CL on Aug 27, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wes buster douglas was 29-4 when he fought tyson with notable wins to get the title shot and ended his career 38-6 not to bad.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Notable wins over who, oh I know Greg Page and Tex… Both world beaters! NOT!!!
by Wes on Aug 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex Cobb that is, the human punching bag.
by Wes on Aug 27, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun, Buster never had any notable wins. He was supposed to be an easy set-up for Tyson before he fought Holyfield in what was supposed to be the biggest single money making fight in history. But Tyson didn’t take Douglass seriously and trained only 3 weeks for the fight and the rest is history. Please don’t talk out your butt.
by Rich on Aug 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun, Buster never had any notable wins
how about giving mike tyson his first loss,not only beating him but ktfo.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“When I come into the ring or cage the only thing I’m thinking about is pressure” was incorrectly translated. He actually said the only thing he thinks about is Russia (and representing it), and the way the translator said it, it sounded like “pressure”.
by larik on Aug 27, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good catch Larik I thought she said Russia. I had to rewind it a couple of times but I do not speak Russian so I wasn’t sure.
by MMAFan1981 on Aug 27, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol
it’s lonely at the top when u won’t fight the guys around you on the division, how many ufc guys have said they want to fight the best and that they want fedor to come to the ufc? How many fans are gutted not because they hate fedor but his decision to sign for strikefarse?? Who honestly beleives that’s fedors true tests lie outside the ufc??!! I take it all these people are wrong and you are right?! Lol
fedor knows exactly what he has done and I’m afraid there is no hiding place despite his comments, mma has evolved ten fold since he fought top guys, I honestly think he would struggle in the ufc, and so does he!!!!!
by Mo on Aug 27, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
These “top guys” people keep mentioning are a figment of people’s imagination. All the pissing and moaning is really about one fight we will not see anytime soon. Face the facts people, there is no opponent that either Fedor or Lesnar can face right now (save for each other) whose resume or current relevance can’t be critisized or picked apart fairly easily. The division as a whole is still by far the weakest weight class.
by CL on Aug 27, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just remember, all these ufc guys had a chance to sign with affliction when they had the best hw division but chose to fight in the ufc which had an inferior hw division at the time. affliction had 3 of the top 5 hw’s at the time and the number 1 p4p fighter overall in their stable. so if they really wanted to fight the best shouldn’t they have signed with affliction?
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair is fair. It’s a good question for those making the “ducking top competition” claim. I’m not however, convinced there is at present a list of “top guys” or contenders the overall fan base would agree are legitimate worthy opponents for either Fedor or Lesnar. Some interesting fights…..yes…..guys with potential….yes…..but a win by either of these two over any other opponent will be minimized by a significant % of the fan base. Other than these two…..who could be held up as a legit opponent much of the fan base wouldn’t flame as being a can, inexperienced, or a has been? Frankly it’s a no win for either Fedor or Lesnar depending on one’s preference or opinion. Wins are not worth much, and any loss will mean to many they were/are over-rated to begin with. Doesn’t seem fair, does it?
by CL on Aug 27, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brett rodgers is not a can!
he is not the top competition….he is a decent fight.
Fedor doesnt have anything left to prove…..he proved himself like 5 years ago. now hes just making a living.
he doesnt care about being number 1 in the world appart from it helping him to make money. he has fought good competition recently.
by awt105 on Aug 27, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your right but because he doesn’t face the best anymore he should not be considered the best he’s a legend for sure but not the best now because of what you just stated unlike Hughes,Couture & Chuck who have all fought top contenders and have lost but kept on fighting the best Fedor doesn’t deserve as high as praise as these guy’s.
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s only one fighter. Him and Hughes were suppose to fight when Serra was the champ but Hughes ended up getting him much later if it wasn’t for their hate for each other on TUF the fight might never of happened. Hughes also fought the pitbull during that time.
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me, or is Fedor news getting to be like the annual Brett Favre will-he-or-won’t-he banter at the end of every season for his last 4 years with the Packers? Fedor’s a big name in the sport, but the evidence for his reputation is further and further in the rear view mirror all the time. The only way to know if he’s still MVP caliber is to fight super bowl quality opponents, and those are all in the UFC right now.
The other question I have is, if the UFC’s offer was so bland in comparison to Strikeforce’s, then why don’t Fedor et al make the offered terms public for everyone to know and put the whole thing to rest? I know Dana won’t do that because it affects every other HW he negotiates with, but what does Fedor have to lose by doing it?
by PWW on Aug 27, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would give him all the respect in the world if he even fought ( forget about winning )
1 randy couture ( fedor wins )
2 brock lesner ( lesner wins )
3 frank mir ( mir wins )
4 shane carwin ( 50 / 50 )
5 rampage
6 forest
7 rashad
8 anderson silva
9 shogun
10 lyota machida
BASICALLY NOT F*ING CARNIVAK ATTRACTION FIGHTS
FEDOR IS AN ABSOLUTE BEATCH – PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET KNOCKED OUT BY BRETT ROGERS
by apex103 on Aug 27, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“3 frank mir ( mir wins )
4 shane carwin ( 50 / 50 )"
lmao….wow
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir and Fedor have both beat NOG why does Mir not get the same respect as Fedor? Hopefully we get to see a Mir NOG two and Three after he beats him three times then maybe he will? The three first fights for Fedor would be
1)Brock
2)230LB A.Silva
3)230LB Machida
Fedor goes 0-3 M1 & Fedor didn’t want to take a chance on that happening so Strikeforce was the easy choice.
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mir doesn’t get the same respect because he’s frank mir. brock wins but i don’t see anyone else. the only reason brock wins is his 25% weight advantage.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva and Machida who both can get close to 230 with out losing any speed or cardio would be awsome fights. I honestly believe Silva would beat him machida I would be 50/50 on but even if Fedor won I think it would be great fights to watch and Fedor would at least earn his ranking.
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahahahahahahahah. Funniest thing I’ve read all day!
by pwilson on Aug 27, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your list is garbage. I have to agree with Intro.
by jay on Aug 27, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of all of those I would give Lesnar, Carwin, A Silva, and Machida a chance at winning. Mir would get dominated IMO.
by LJ on Aug 27, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The list isnt a ratings list, just the names that came to mind as i was typing, cmon forest over machida ???
by apex103 on Aug 28, 2009 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is the Man!!! I hope they put him at +500. I would definitely bet at least a grand to see him put Fedor on his ass!
by PACO on Aug 27, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand how UFC is automaticly the “best in the world” They don’t exsist anywhere in the world other than the US. How is a fighter with a 4-1 record (80% win rate) “better” than a fighter with a 30-1 record (97% win rate)? Who has Brock proved himself against? Mir (with a loss in there)? The UFC heavyweight division is as week as professional boxing’s heavy weight division. Speak up boys, I can’t hear you with Dana’s dong in your mouth!
by Bryan139 on Aug 27, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you take NOG and Cro Cop off Fedors list what has he really done? Don’t be fooled by the record common sense is all you need to realize there isn’t to many top ten fighters on his list besides some LHW and MW.
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not gonna sit here and say Brock is better than Fedor, although I think Brock would have a damn good chance of kicking his ass but your comparison is useless. 97% win rate means nothing when you are fighting garbage opponents. He’s fought one maybe two decent fighters in the past 5 years, and he doesn’t usually even dominate the garbage opponents. Any fighter at the top (which Fedor definitely is, just not even close to the best) can easily go 30-1 when you fight garbage opponent after garbage opponent.
Also how the hell can you say the UFC heavyweight division is weak. They have the vast majority of the top fighters in the world. There’s 2-4 top heavyweights at most that they don’t have.
by Nutman on Aug 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like how fedor keeps on reponding to these internet rumors that he suppossedly never reads. you know they piss him off. we all know the reason why he ran from the ufc and we all think he is a cowarldy prick. forget fedor. he needs to be moved down to #3 on the pound for pound list. he chose copromotion and a life of fighting tomato cans instead of fighting the best for the most money. fedor weak.
by Conan the Barbarian on Aug 27, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
introvert- he scheduled later this year?? I wana see action NOW. later this year?? there’s guys that fight 4-5 times a year ?? are you satisfied seeing FEDOR fight 2 a year? you must be VERY SLOW buddy
by Carnage on Aug 27, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His last fight was cancelled….in case you missed it.
WTF?
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fabricio Werdum SUCKS!! Who thinks WERDUM is top 5. ure a dumba$$
by Carnage on Aug 27, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s at about 11-13.
Far from sucks.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His standup sucks and he’s lazy but his BJJ makes up for that. In general he doesn’t suck, but who thinks he’s top 5 anyway?
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he is a boring fighter but he is far from sucking and has been highly ranked in the past.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEY MANIA! THERE IS A MISTAKE IN THE TRANLATION! I SPEAK RUSSIAN!
FEDOR SAID “THE ONLY THING I WANNA PROVE IS THAT I’M FROM RUSSIA!I GO OUT THERE AND FIGHT FOR RUSSIANS!” NOT “PRESSURE”:))))))))))))
by pamirec on Aug 27, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he has to fight to prove he’s from Russia. Birth certificate would suffice.
by Diceman on Aug 27, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess nobody can answer my question….
If there is one fighter in the world that Fedor could beat tomorrow to gain your respect, who would that fighter be?
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
It’s funny…I was literally going to put “no bruce lee or chuck norris stuff…” I guess I should have asked lol.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn’t specify alive or dead so Bruce Lee counts!
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, rather than give up a name, you’d rather say Bruce Lee?
Is that to avoid the question?
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s called humour intro, get a sense of it!
Not like you refused to answer my Rodgers question today is it????
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was funny (see my “lol”).
Still skirting the issue are we?
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I asked first, oh King of the Skirters.
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget it. To gain my respect he would have to beat Brock. Not saying Brock is better than him, (certainly has the potential to be) but that would shut up any doubts once and for all.
Also like to see him fight AS or Machida at LHW to see how he does against a brilliantly technical striker as he’s never really fought anyone like them.
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, Fedor has to beat Brock (4-1) to improve his record to 31-1* in order to gain your respect?
Not only that, but he has to drop to LHW to beat Machida and Silva? WTF? Why stop there? He should also have to drop to WW to fight GSP too. Then, he has to get in a Racecar and win the Indy 500. Then he has to climb Mount Everest without any shoes and socks on………
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor drops to LHW and goes up vs. Machida or A. Silva, that’s a legit loss coming his way.
No doubt.
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So basically, even if he signed with the UFC and beat Brock….you’d still call him a coward if he didn’t drop weight to fight LHW’s?
Your hatred is obvious.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So basically, even if he signed with the UFC and beat Brock….you’d still call him a coward if he didn’t drop weight to fight LHW’s?
Your hatred is obvious.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now you’re trying to put words in my mouth intro, not cool buddy, stick to the facts. The answer to your question was Brock, thought I made that painfully obvious even for you. You’re the only one with the “obvious hatred” here, hatred for anything UFC.
The AS/Machida matchup was more of an afterthought, a fantasy matchup if you will. I didn’t say he would have to beat those guys to “gain my respect”. I wouldn’t start calling the guy a coward if he beat the UFC’s HW champ, then refused to cut 20lbs to take on AS or 50lbs to take on GSP or whoever.
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson could get to 230 as so could Machida or have a catch weight fight at 225?
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there not going to answer it because they now you can tear up there response with logical facts and than they will yell UFC UFC, cans, nuthugger ect…
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess their lack of quality opponents for Fedor speaks louder than words could.
The fact is Fedor is King, it’s lonely at the top, and there is nobody in the world that he could beat that would make him any less hated by the haters.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truth.(Copyright OJR productions, LLC)
by Diceman on Aug 27, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I answered it, but it hasn’t come up yet!
I said I’d like to see him fight Brock, not because I like or even respect Brock, but because I think his size will give everyone problems!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one. The haters will always have an excuse on whoever he beats regardless of who it is
by Bob Lawblah on Aug 27, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock won a decision over Herring, split with Mir and beat a 40 year old Couture that’s 40lbs lighter than him. Yeah, that’s the best in the world alright. Sure it is.
by Bryan139 on Aug 27, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The fact is we won’t know until they fight, until then it’s only opinion, there are no rite or wrongs. Still seems to me like only one of them wants to male the fight actually happen…
by eagzy on Aug 27, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
couture was 60 lbs lighter at fight time.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The same guys licking Brock’s sac are the same guys that were all about Kimbo before he fell off the map too.
by Bryan139 on Aug 27, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
houston is going to be champ, i remember that after his first 2 fights.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this fellow! If he truly doesn’t feel like he has to prove anything, then he doesn’t! Maybe his goals aren’t to be remembered as the best ever! Maybe he’s just trying to make the most money he can so he can provide for his family well into the future! Just because we(myself included) want to see him in the UFC and we believe the UFC has the best fighters, doesn’t mean he sucks if he doesn’t do there! We as fans want to see awesome fights! We expect it each and every time! Especially when we pay to see it! So, for those who are second guessing what goes on behind the scenes with these “deals,” I highly recommend you find a fighter or two and become a manager. Then, go try to do what’s BEST for you fighter, yet please ALL the fans. And by the way, I’m no Fedor nutthugger, but I respect the guy! And as far as I’m concerned, he doesn’t have anything to prove to me! I can tell he’s a real badass by the way he carries himself. This is a true battlefield warrior that has ended up in MMA somehow! Not a “Fighter” that claims he’s a warrior, but the real deal. And you can see the difference if you just look. No offense intended to those whose oppinion differs!
by Dana's a CrossDresser on Aug 27, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He will never be considered a “real fighter” by the haters until he gets some tattoo’s, starts cursing every second word, spits at the camera, and learns how to hammerfist.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And comes out to death metal with dyed hair
by Bob Lawblah on Aug 27, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or at least fight the fighters the fans want to see him fight that would make it easy.
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So just because I like Brock as a fighter that means I liked kimbo? I don’t get that?
by eagzy on Aug 27, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
both over hyped, only difference is I don’t see anyone beating Brock and I didn’t see Kimbo beating anyone!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
again bro u know what UR TALking about, listen bottom line Fedor is the real deal he beat alot of top guys, and have never been upseted by anyone, u all say Bret is not worthy and he is nobody but all it takes is a “nobody” which bret is not, to beat someone. Anderson Silva and all these other so called pound for pound kings have all been beat by guys u wud never even see coming..
by zack on Aug 27, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
u being serious or sarcastic? I think grim is a formidable opponent yet feel Fedor took less money to avoid the UFC!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are satisfied with this match up, right? According to some rankings Rogers is ranked #9. Would you be satisfied with Anderson fighting Chael Sonnen? Because he is ranked #9 at MW. How about GSP fighting Carlos Condit right now. I sure as hell wouldn’t. If I am a “UFC Sheep” then you all are definate Fedor sheep.
by BNF on Aug 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There’s a big difference between WW’s and MW’s when considering ranking….not so much in HW’s. HW is the weakest it’s been since I can remember.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, but I could also argue that both Carlos and Chael are more accomplished and worthy opponets in their respected divisions than Rogers is in his.
Honestly, I wouldn’t give either of those guys a shot in hell at winning. And I don’t give Rogers one either. That is what makes it unsatisfactory for me. The best fights are that ones that are hard to call, not watching my favorite fighter kill somebody.
by BNF on Aug 27, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“The best fights are that ones that are hard to call, not watching my favorite fighter kill somebody.”
Truth.
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why even buy a UFC event then?
Forrest had no chance Silva.
Florian had no chance Penn.
Couture had no chance against Brock.
I could go all day…..that’s why they have the fights.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorta like Serra having no chance to beat GSP.
by pwilson on Aug 27, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Serra vs. GSP = rare.
9/10 times, it does not happen.
Florian had a good chance vs. BJ.
Agreed about Griffin/A. Silva.
Personally, (with the Philly trip being the exception) I don’t participate/purchase one sided PPV events.
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats disappointing OJR. I get them all just because the “one sided ppv’s” tend to be the best!
Florian had no chance against BJ by the way!
is this the real OJR?
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
It’s me, alright.
I go to a bar or watch it at somebody else’s house if its a main event like Cain v. Kongo or has fights like CC v. Al Turk, etc. I spend my $$$ wisely.
Florian had me worried because BJ had never really taken a beating before (ala GSP)… didn’t know if BJ still had that fire (mentally).
I am glad that he proved me wrong!
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys really saying that some fighter have no chance? I would agree, but too many times have I seen the “guarantee” lose. Wasn’t Shogun and Chuck a lock on one card, but both ended up falling on the short end? Unless its a Japanese freakshow, I don’t think its fair to call any fights one sided. Remember this is MMA anything can and usually does happen. Plus not ordering those onesided so called fights means theres a great chance ull miss out on some KILLER beatdowns!
by pwilson on Aug 27, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grimm is #7 on Sherdog(just scrolled across the bottom of the screen while I was watching Sportscenter, I wasn’t actually browsing that site)FYI. #1 vs #7 isn’t a bad matchup. Sure I’d rather see 1 vs 2, but I think most top ten matchups are worth watching(in any sport).
by Diceman on Aug 27, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn’t mind gsp vs condit it would be better than swick or kampman imo. wow he is fighting #9 at least he is ranked is carwin or cain ranked? and they are doing this to build up the next fight.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Carwin fight is the best at the moment. We all know they tried to make the #1 vs. #2 fight happen. And it would have if he signed. He choose not to.
by BNF on Aug 27, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he choose not to SIGN a contract, not try to duck the #1 or 2 guy. he already was fighting the best guys out there at the time. aa was ranked 2-4 when he fought him and barnett was ranked #2 when he tried to fight him he tried to fight randy so who is he ducking.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said he was ducking. I said I was not satified with Rogers as an opponet unlike you Fedor sack danglers. There is a difference.
by BNF on Aug 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow you just won with the fedor sack danglers, how will out debate that. and your the guy who starts crying when someone insults you. it was better than using nuthugger though.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I’m saying is that if a fighter, not just Fedor, is satisfied with their fights, so am I! Because, at the end of the day, I just want to see the fight! I’m a real big fight fan! I don’t watch any other sport and never have even as a kid! The only reason I think this is an exciting matchup is because Rogers can pull off an upset ONLY because he has devestating power! Other than that, I don’t believe he can hold the top 20 HW’s jock straps! Sure! I’d much rather see him fight Brock, Mir, Randy Slo-ture, etc….. But, Dana
“D1ckhead” White probably tried to get Fedor to give up rights to his first born or some sh1t like that! Unfortunately, we can’t see what really goes on behind the scenes all the time. So, we will never know exactly what Dana asked of Fedor. Besides, we can’t just sit back and blame just Fedor and M1! It’s Dana’s fault too(Mostly) if he don’t give us the fights we want! At the end of the day, it takes reasonable negotiation on both sides. And from what I keep seeing, Fedor doesn’t seem to have a problem with other venues! Just with Dana! And we’ve seen many others with the same issues! So, maybe Fedor just isn’t willing to accept some of the Bullsh1t terms Dana gets other fighters to accept just because they want to be in the “Big Show!” Also, Dana wants Fedor, Fedor is calling him for a job!
by Dana's a CrossDresser on Aug 27, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, I guess it’s safe to say that the Fedor haters here can’t think of a quality guy for him to fight that would make him worthy of his #1 status?
Your silence is deafening.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar
or how about Anderson or Machida at 205?
by BNF on Aug 27, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe BJ at 155.
lmao…you guys are unreal.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have no interest in Fedor vs Machida? But you like the Rogers fight.
LOL @ you. You are unreal.
by BNF on Aug 27, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
intro, you’re losing me! there are many more challenges (all around fighters) at 205 then at HW. Aside from Brock, I don’t see a HW that can give Fedor problems!
machida
silva
rampage
shogun
rashad
etc all quick well rounded guys that he could fight at 205
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would definately be interested. Never said I wouldn’t be. My point is he wouldn’t have to in order to garner my respect, and the fact that you are pulling stuff like this out of your ass and saying he has to fight Brock, then LHW’s, etc… in order to garner yours (which he will obviously never do all of these things)…means you will hate on him no matter what.
It’s as clear as day.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he wouldn’t have to do it to “garner your respect”. If he beat Bob Sapp, Jose Canseco then Butterbean you’d still blindly swing from his nuts.
You asked the question intro, dont be surprised if you get answers you dont like.
It’s at the back of my mind and a lot of others that Fedor refused to come to the UFC coz he was ducking Lesnar and taking safe fights. Not saying this is true, but to garner respect off me yes he would have to come to the UFC and defeat their champion Lesnar, to quell any doubts once and for all.
I personally believe Fedor would win the fight but I actually want to see it happen and not have to make do with coulda, woulda, shoulda.
I certainly wouldn’t bash the guy if he refused to move down in weight. He’s fought at HW his entire career and never showed any interest in moving down. That’s his choice and I’d respect that.
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
attackdog proves once again why he is my favorite poster on MMA Mania
by RedDog on Aug 27, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t bother BNF, I’ve been saying for over a year now that Fedor’s toughest fights are at 205. All these guys say why would he move down when he dominates the HW division, for some reason better competition and better fights doesn’t cross their minds!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is the man!!! He is one of my favorite fighters and I would love to see him in the UFC. To me if he says that the UFC offer wasn’t good enough then it wasn’t good enough and that is that. You guys that think you know exactly what went down in the contract negotiations or know exactly what Fedor’s terms were make me laugh. Then calling him a prick and scared to fight top flight competition is probably one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.
Oh well that is why it is a bloggers web site. Any moron that thinks they know what is best for a fighter and the sport can get on to post what he or she is thinking at the time.
by MMAFan1981 on Aug 27, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s bullcrap! Put or shut up Fedor. He took less money to fighter bigger tomato cans. Strikeforce has no heavyweight worth talking about- PERIOD, end of story.
by Rich on Aug 27, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao….perfect example, MMAFana1981.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmafan1981, there is a 0% chance that strikeforce offered more money. I don’t know about you, but money makes my world go round. If I was a fighter, top competition is what I would want. If the UFC’s offer topped out at 5-6 million a fight (based on ppv buys), and strikeforce pays 1 million a fight (hypothetically) then he’s lying, period. It then becomes not about money but about M-1. either way, he can retire in russia with either pay day, but it makes him look bad! It would be like lebron turning down 100 million to play for the cavs but taking 50 million to play in europe so he could win a championship over there!
by kevin on Aug 27, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Introvert, it is funny how that always happens after a post like that isn’t it? LOL!!
Kevin, you are right there is no way I would pass up that kind of money either. The difference is that I am not in Fedor’s position so I can’t really begin to guess what was going on in his head.
As a fan of course I want to see him fight the best in the world but if I can’t have it then so be it. There really is nothing I can do about it. Would I rather see him fight Brock Lesnar than Grim, hell yeah. That doesn’t mean that I think Grim is a bad opponent. It is quite the opposite I think that Rogers is going to be a very difficult opponent for Fedor. Does he deserve to fight him, no way but that is the way it goes.
It sucks that we are still in the early stages of MMA and there is to much division between all of the organizations. Sooner or later it will all get worked out but by that time Fedor may be past his prime. Which for the hardcore fans would really suck because he is such a great fighter and we would love to see him against the best in the world.
by MMAFan1981 on Aug 27, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PERIOD, end of story
oh its over now everyone move to the next thread nothing to see here.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FEDOR FUCKING SUCKS. I HOPE HE GETS KTFO!!!!
by DSM on Aug 27, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, the only real answer I got for my question was Brock.
So, Brock is what?…4-1. So, if Fedor beat him, what exactly does beating a 4-1 guy do to improve Fedor’s legacy? Jack squat. All we’d here is “ya, but if Brock ate eggs this morning instead of Raisin Bran, he would have killed Fedor…..blah, blah, blah”
The fact is you guys hate Fedor no matter what he does, and since you can’t even acknowledge that there is a worthy opponent for him says it all.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People got really bitter after the deal fell through.
That should be the most obvious answer for your question, Intro.
My personal response (outside of Brock) is Overeem (due to his striking, it might fluster Fedor ala AA)?
by OJR on Aug 27, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not true at all. I used to be a fan but not anymore. You can’t say you’re the best until you beat the best. 3 or 4 years ago he was kind of doing that, in Pride anyway. NOt now. He avoids the best competition. It’s a fact not opinion.
by Wes on Aug 27, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who does he have to beat that is the “best”? In your opinion.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t even waste my time to answer such a stupid question.
by Rich on Aug 27, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be the best you have to beat the best. It’s fine that he doesn’t want to fight the best but his #1 ranking needs to come down.
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if he’s ranked #1, and Brock’s #2, wouldn’t Brock have to go fight Fedor to be crowned the new #1? Why is it all on Fedor’s back to go fight the #2 guy, but Brock has to take no responsibility?
by Diceman on Aug 28, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bro u know dont know what UR TALking about, listen bottom line Fedor is the real deal he beat alot of top guys, and have never been upseted by anyone, u all say Bret is not worthy and he is nobody but all it takes is a “nobody” which bret is not, to beat someone. Anderson Silva and all these other so called pound for pound kings have all been beat by guys u wud never even see coming…. so does who is the best guys it all depends on the matchups. u cant say carwin is a title shot contender and say Bret is not. Ask u self this who is a better fighter Gonzaga or Arlovski then ask yourself which guy beat the better fighter
by zack on Aug 28, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering where carneage had gone to. I read down a little farther and saw the name on here. Doesn’t look like carnage is arguing with everyone today especially Kevin.
by BeerMan on Aug 27, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was just commenting on how many, not all, Brock fans seem to be fairweather bandwagon fans. Kind of like how Kimbo was supposed to be the best in the world and was going to take over all of mma and blah blah blah. It’s one thing to be a fan, but to declare him the best in the world is stupid. He lost his second or third fight and still got a title shot. That shows how weak the division really is. He didn’t climb any mountain. Carwin is 10-0 and just getting his first title shot now, no? Explain that “best in the world” fans.
by Bryan139 on Aug 27, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Saying Fedor is scared to fight in the UFC makes about as much sense as saying Dana is afraid to co-promote because M1 fighters would tear thru his UFC fighters and put him out of business.
by Bryan139 on Aug 27, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
truth.
But, Dana lover’s use the “business” word to skirt that.
by introvert on Aug 27, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL realy now what M1 fighters are you talking about?
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is a selfish bastard. While he may feel he has nothing to prove, I’m sure all his fans and x-fans do want him to prove he is the best. And why does he keep bringing up that the UFC contract wasn’t that good? Excuses, excuses!
by anom on Aug 27, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
better then Strike Force’s offer for sure but the only thing was the SF was willing to co-promote. Keep sucking on Fedor’s nuts buddy. Try not to choke on them.lol
by anom on Aug 27, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow lol, that was so funny i never heard that one before can i steal that one from you?
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shogun was that guy even talking to you? All through this thread I have read Intro say something(stupid, of course) then someone with common sense tell him he is mental, then you run to the rescue. If you aren’t Intro double posting so it looks like someone actually agrees with anything he says, than you my friend are a closet case If I ever seen one.
by jay on Aug 27, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because he wants to fight cans.
by daftmania on Aug 27, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it sucked Intro. SF has way way way more money, so they were able to offer the better contract.
by jay on Aug 27, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not Fedor’s fault Barnett crapped out on steroids. If they fought that would have made Silvia, AA, and Barnett as his last three opponents. That’s the best last 3 opponents anyone in the world has fought. That’s three former UFC champs, all of whom were ranked in the top 5 when Fedor fought them.
Of course, after Fedor beats them they perform like they are cursed. Once you’ve been to the mountaintop and been crushed it does something to you. But you can’t take back how those guys were regarded before they stepped in the ring with him.
Only Brock has faced a similar level of competition in his last three fights (Mir, Randy, Herring). That’s two former champs and a solid vet. Now that Barnett has f’d the dog, Fedor will be fighting a relatively unproven big HW KO artist. It’s a big step down from Barnett, but still, at least the guy poses a threat.
Fedor is in more of a holding pattern now while he dispatches some borderline top 10 competition. Brock will gain on him in the rankings if he keeps winning, but it will take a lot to surpass the fact that Fedor is undefeated in 30 fights and has taken out 2 of the best of all time in Nog and Cro Cop.
by revjames13 on Aug 27, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs to fight BROCK RANDY COUTURE and throw MIR and SHANE CARWIN! Start FEDOR WITH RANDY AND THEN THROW HIM BROCK. He has my respect I THINK HE IS THE BEST HW IN THE WORLD
by Carnage on Aug 27, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
intro its not that brocks record is all that great now but he will most definately be on top for awhile when he gets there. alot can happen in 3-5 years and i also think that if youre good youre good. your record doesnt just go from 0-0 to 10-0 you gotta earn it. most fighters at least have 3 or more pro fights before ufc will pick them up. brock was an anomaly, they werent gonna wait on him cuz of his drawing power. but yea i see what people are saying when theyre mad about him being 2-1 and getting a shot at the title. you just dont see that ever. but again brock sells ppv’s , i woulda gave him 1 or 2 more guys after mir and herring just to earn it even somewhat but thats not how it went down. i think brocks good enough already where yes his size would give anyone fits. but fedor would own him i think in the long run. it would only serve to show that fedor is without question the best in the world at heavyweight (which i think is obvious to most) and that his time is still now and brock hasta wait his turn. i woulda loved to see him in ufc but ya brett rogers is a good fight for him if he hasnt fought all that much recently.
by JakeAnd on Aug 27, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedoris the best HW we just wana see action
by Carnage on Aug 27, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This guy will beat anybody. He destroyed the overweight (Zulu), the tall (Choi), the skinny (Lindland), the old (Coleman)…all that is left for this fearless warrior is the girl (CYBORG) look out! Now we know why he chose strkieforce.
by daftmania on Aug 27, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a huge rogers fan, but you have to give the guy credit, he’s not backing down and he’s pretty humble about it. But yes, feeadoor does has something to prove! he needs to prove he’s the best. I’m soo sick of people taking his side, yes, fedor is respectfull and he dosent run his mouth, but he surounds himself with people all looking to make an easy buck, and they are the ones that are starting all the negative press. he needs to get better managers and i think all his problems will go away. not to mention he would be in the ufc making more money.
by BoBBy on Aug 27, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s going to be interesting to see if fighting in a cage changes his performance at all. I think of this as a good direction towards hopefully getting into the UFC after proving himself some more, considering there’s people who refer to him as overrated or as a joke.
by Daniel Contogiannis on Aug 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You say take NOG and Cro Cop off Fedor’s list and what has he done, I say leave Brock’s list just the way it is and what has he done?
by Bryan139 on Aug 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And just those two wins alone make Fedor more proven than Brock. Brock hasn’t beaten anybody. Splitting with Mir who’s 16-9 or 16-6 or something like that should be a strike against him, not for him. Beating a ancient Randy Couture shouldn’t even count. And to me, going to a decision with Herring should be a strike against him as well.
by Bryan139 on Aug 27, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just getting in the ring with Hong Man Choi, Zuluzinhio, Mark Hunt, Matt Lindland, Gary Goodridge, Iron Head Fujita should all be strikes against you too. If we go back any further Fedor will be in minus points!
by attakdog on Aug 27, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bryan just use your common sense it’s obvious his record is inflated and Brock has done nothing but face top calibure fighters starting in his first fight and all those fighters could beat any of Fedor’s opponents not including NOG. Hell herring could win over a lot of the names on Fedor’s list and Herring is the worst fighter Brock has faced.
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see a 60lbs lighter, 40 year old Randy Couture as a top caliber opponent. I don’t see Frank Mir as a top caliber opponent either. Great fighters, absolutely. But wins over these guys hardly makes Brock the “best in the world.” I’m not really arguing that Fedor is the best, even though I feel he is, so much as I feel Brock isn’t. At a paltry 4-1 I think that’s just too bold of a statement to make for any fighter.
by Bryan139 on Aug 27, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol herring who lost to jake, herring lost to cro cop.yeah brock has fought nothing but the best. mir sucks, herring is a journeymen, randy is 45 years old.lol fedor would kill them all.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe? but can anybody that Fedor has beat win against Randy or Mir? NOG couldn’t beat Mir hopefully we get to see#2 and we will find out if NOG can beat old man Randy Fedor’s claim to fame has really been NOG but who on that padded list can beat Randy or Mir?
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aa,herring,semmy,lindland,babalu,arona,fujita would all have a chance to beat them, mir most likely randy maybe not.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve also never seen an original thought come from you shogun, do you just read other people’s thoughts and disagree because you are an angry little man?
by jay on Aug 27, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know your opinion of Mir so let’s leave him out for now by next year your opinion of Mir’s status will change and we will be able to talk about him being a top five HW even by you shogun LOL. But really of those guy’s none of them would have a good chance against Randy and way less of a chance against Brock especially the LHW and MW fighter. My opinion is Mir would wipe the floor against those guy’s as well AA always has a striking chance against anyone but not much.
by Puck Head on Aug 27, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i just diagree with you on that, i think those guys could beat mir no problem and probally randy as well, lesnar would be tough for anyone especially anyone undersized but i don’t think he will even clear out the ufc hw devision with out a few more losses. and i agree by next years time you will see that mir is not that good.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i just diagree with you on that, i think those guys could beat mir no problem and probally randy as well, lesnar would be tough for anyone especially anyone undersized but i don’t think he will even clear out the ufc hw devision with out a few more losses. and i agree by next years time you will see that mir is not that good.
by shogun on Aug 27, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun if you think Fujita, Schilt or Lindland, would have a chance against Couture or Mir, you sir are an absolute basket case!
Do you even know who they are? Why stop there, surely Zuluzinhio, Hong Man Choi and Mark Hunt would destroy Randy and Mir too?
by attakdog on Aug 28, 2009 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your a basket case, linland went the distance with rampage and was doing ok with fedor for a second so what makes mir so special?fujita and shcilt could kick his ass i am not saying he wouldn’t have a chance but they all would as well.get real.
by shougn on Aug 28, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is a part owner of M-1. He will have to end that relationship b4 going to the UFC. Stop thinking of this guy as an elite fighter and start thinking og him as a business-man and u guys won’t be so disappointed.
by oldskooljjsu on Aug 27, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did any1 else notice him sweat and wipe away his sweat when he was asking baout ducking the UFC?! LMFAO!
by Oswald Gobblecock on Aug 27, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
again kevin u know what UR TALking about, listen bottom line Fedor is the real deal he beat alot of top guys, and have never been upseted by anyone, u all say Bret is not worthy and he is nobody but all it takes is a “nobody” which bret is not, to beat someone. Anderson Silva and all these other so called pound for pound kings have all been beat by guys u wud never even see coming..
by zack on Aug 28, 2009 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CL you just proved my point lol!! maybe only brock?? If thats the case then the ufc is the only org that has the competition to face fedor, the reason fans are pissed, stop clinging on to this guy like hes a saint, he has knowingly avoided the fights all fans want to see!!! End of story!!
by mo on Aug 28, 2009 3:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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