UFC 105: Dan Hardy vs Dong Hyun 'Stun Gun' Kim in the works for Nov. 14

Not to mention legend Rory Markham! Where’s gono now? Davis is a journeyman gatekeeper, nothing more. It’s not like these are his first three pro fights, he’s had nearly 30 pro fights hasn’t he? He should have been taking on some top 10 guys by now!

You know he’s being protected, the UFC are just trying to get as much mileage out of this kid and hype him up as the next British hope by giving him safe fights, before the inevitable happens and he has to face a wrestler who’ll pound him so hard his mohican go’s limp.

it doesnt matter if hes had nearly 30 fights.hes being brought along nicely in his ufc career.davis and gono are still solid professionals and stun gun,who beat karo in my eyes,is another solid test.what do u expect so soon in his ufc career.look what happened to bisping.i think the ufc are bringing hardy through just right.but defencecat we all know what u think about british fighters anyway!

dan hardy by robbery decision no wonder they call him the outlaw. he did more damage to davis but davis was more sound technically and hardy won. ghono did way more damage to hardy but hardy was more technical. hardy still won. load of bull the man robs decisions so what he cut and stunned marcus davis. marcus hit him more and out grappled him. british fighters get decisions handed to them its bull

Why would Hardy have been put in with any names bigger than the ones he’s faced so far? Its not about protecting him, its about him proving himself before he moves up to the next level. He might have had plenty of fights, but not at UFC level. If he was being given a bigger fight, you’d be saying he doesn’t deserve to be there yet.

How is he being protected when he came in as the underdog in all of them fights (markham/gono/davis)

you want to talk about a padded record take a look at thiago silva’s or marcus davis

here here ufcaddict and bb!

Say what you want guys, he’s being protected. The UFC are purposefully keeping him clear of wrestlers who will totally expose his gg. He just about got away with the upside down Cheick Kongo turtle defence against plastic paddy Davis, but a top 10 guy would expose those gaping big holes in his game very easily.

i agree he probably will be beat by a top wrestler like fitch or koscheck but he is not being protected in anyway

he will eventually have to come up against a wrestler soon if he keeps winning because the majority of top guys in the division are wrestlers

Heat — Davis tried to lay ’n pray his way to a win and FINALLY the judges saw through that bullshit tactic. Hardy beat the crap out of Davis. Just because Davis was on top and doing nothing for 12 minutes does not mean he won the fight.

attackdog: u r out of your mind! NOt every fight is a mega fight, and not every fight has title implications, but that doesnt mean a guy is being protected. ScotT, UFCaddict, and British Buldog have said all that needs to be said. attackdog, you know that you are wrong and that you have lost this debate, put your pride to the side for a second and just admit it.

I actually think that the UFC has handled his career PERFECT. Ike someone pointed out…had they matched him up with a top 5 fighter, you would just say he doesnt deserve it any way.

FYI: Takedown defense and Cardio are the easiest things to improve on. Just need to put in the work!

Sorry john, I believe I’m right, nothing you of all people say will ever change that.

Who said anything about TD defence and cardio??? His GG is what needs work and A LOT of work. He couldn’t do anything against that old “ground specialist” Marcus davis other than a turtle impression. A top tenner would destroy him on the ground. The UFC know this so are trying to cash in as much as they can now by carefully handpicking opponents before he gets obliterated by a top tier guy.

how r they protecting him if Kim is a stylistic nightmare for the skill sets that hardy posses?

YOu arent being protected when you come into a fight as an underdog.

I brought up Takedown defense because if you develop a great takedown defense, it solves all the wholes in your ground game. IMO you can develop good td defense much quicker then yoou can a good ground game, so while Hardy slowly improves his ground game working with eddie Bravo, he will need to vastly improve his takedown defense, which isnt that hard too do!

To be fair to K-Dog, what he is getting at is that Hardy has faced fighters who whilst being talented match up well with him, none of them are noted for their size and wrestling so Hardy has been able to pick up some big wins.

However, he is not being put up against one of the many dominant wrestlers at this weight class because Hardy is the UK’s second biggest name and the UFC want to market him as well as possible before his weak ground game is inevitably found out. He needs a lot of work but has potential to be a great fighter and has built up some momentum but he is being protected to an extent by being kept away from top grapplers.

I’m not criticising this approach by any means but Hardy has a long way to go before being a top WW and needs some serious work if he is going to ever reach that level. Lets see how he does against Kim before we write him off or hail him as the next British hope.

there are plenty of top tenners who arent wrestlers alves,condit etc who are primarily strikers.if he went against one of these would you still question it.ur logic is flawed.and i agree with john g,his first 4 opponents have been perfect.and if he wins give him loser/winner of trigg/koschek or even matt serra.thats another step up.

would you prefer his career being ruined with too much too soon like Soko’s was? soko was rushed into the top of the mma world fighting:
Arona
lil Nog
Machida
Cane
Babalu
MOusasi (coming up)

Thanks Dave, you’re always tuned in!!!

right on john.if he beats stun gun convincingly who does defencecat suggest he fight lytle.maybe kevin burns.everyones going on about johnson.hardys got a much better resume!hes not ready for fitch/alves yet granted but a good win hes in the condit/kos/hughes bracket for sure.

You conveniently left out Nakumura and Nortje I see, Soko’s just sh!t john. Better to find that out sooner rather than later isn’t it? UFC did the right thing, shoved him in at the deepend and see if he sank or swam. He sank without a trace! Oh dear you’re not up to standard, see ya later! What would have been the point of having him beat up on cans to get a fake streak going

defencecat lol, thanks scott snott. You’re right his first 4 fights have been completely “perfect”, they’ve kept him clear of any grapplers who would horribly expose him! Please give him Kos or Serra when he gets the inevitable hometown decision over Kim, then we can see the end of this Bizzzzbing-esque hype train.

Attakdog, So should every guy who has 3 wins in the ufc be fighting a top 10 guy? how many guys do you think are in the WW division anyway? Being neutral in this debate I have to say there is obvious bias coming from you. Like John and others said, If he were fighting a top 10 guy, you would likely be the first to say, “he’s getting special treatment, and he doesn’t deserve it”. Just tell me this- If you were Joe Silva- who would you have him fight in his 4th ufc fight??

I got DHK in this fight. Watch Hardy’s fight agains Yoshiyuki Yoshida and you’ll see how their styles matchup. Also DHK much more aggressive on the ground. If he can close the distance without taking serious fire power on the feet, he’s got this. But i am not too worried about his chin. I would have rather seen DHK fight Carlos Condit and Hardy fight the loser of Swick-Kampmann or winner of Kos-Trigg.

Pretty much Indie yeah, if you’ve had three straight wins in the UFC you should really be looking to take on a top ten opponent, that’s a no brainer. Hell Bizzzzbing was given a top tenner with three straight and IMO Hardy’s three wins are a lot more impressive than Bizzzzbings were.

If you read my posts its painfully obvious who i’d pair him against if I was Joe Silva, I’d pair him against Kos, Hughes or Serra. Better to find out sooner rather than later if the lad’s gg is up to it or not. You can pussy foot around the wrestlers all you like, sooner or later in this division you’ll have to take one on if you wanna get anywhere near the top.

I’ll LMAO if Davis is add to the 105 card!

You know it’s gonna happen jackscratch!!! No Uk card would be complete without Davis in a “standup war” against a fellow low level brawler.

You’re right about stun gun OJR, he’s better than any anaesthetic. He had half of us yawning our heads off at 100. I think it’ll be another snoozer of a decision with Hardy getting the hometown nod.

What up Stinky,

101 was alot of fun live.

Looking fwd to the next outing in 2010.

I hope Hardy makes it exciting but I doubt it.

I have been a fan of stun gun for a long time because he brings rare Judo skills to the UFC and I like stylistic variety and I am also probaby one of Hardy’s biggest American fans, so it easy for me to remain biased in this match up, and when Biased, or playing the odds doesnt get in the way, Im usually pretty good at predicting outcomes.

As much as I like Hardy, I think stun Gun is going to win this fight! Face it, UFC scoring sucks these days, and unless you do an ungodly amount of damage, the fighter who spends more time on top wins, and thats going to be Kim! I also think that Kim could potential submit him, but stylistiically I think its a bad fight for Hardy.

Prediction: Stun Gun via submission (ezekial choke) round 3

correction: remain UNBIASED!