UFC Quick Quote: Randy Couture has no punch

Whoever wins this fight should fight the winner or Dos Santos and Cro Cop. The losers fighting from those two fights. I think the one who makes it out of that little “tournament” could fight Lesnar. next for the title.

You’ll be disappointed Natas coz he’ll get guillotined mid 2nd round while trying to dryhump aka guida him to a UD.

i like both guys alot, but i think randy will bully him wherever it goes and maybe go for the kill in the late rounds or win by dec, man i wud kill for this to be a 5 rounder..

To say Randy has no power is nuts. Ya he doesn’t have any huge KOs but he has major damage with those fist. He is a very smart and technical fighter that gets from point A to point B in the shortest/safiest distance. Randy has the most title fights in the UFC for a reasn. (15). If I was Nog I would publicly appoligize for my D-bag coach. They are boyh vets that don’t need to get into this petty crap.

The only title shot he deserved was against smith coz he actually contended into the title as opposed to being handed. Every other time, it was simply a matter of marketability- made no sense from a fight/ranking standpoint despite the results. Seriously this is a man whose longest win streak since 2001 is 2. I still can’t believe that people associate him with being a dominant champion at LHW or HW.

Couture hasn’t been submitted since 2002 or so. Plust Couture seems to have developed more power in his punches the longer he has been training standup. Couture is going to beat the hell out of Nog.. I really like Nog I just don’t seem him handling Couture at all.

He has, it’s just cause his technique and angles has gotten better over the years..

NNR: Im with you as always buddy! Randy has had a great career, but only because of his old age. If Randy were 30 years old right now, his career would be considered good NOT great! But Because he accomplished so much as an od man, everyone slurps his cock. As a Heavyweight his career has been vastly over rated. I dont think he was anything special at Heavyweight. Check out his Heavyweight history:

? against Nogueira
Loss to Brock (in Brock’s 3rd UFC fight, 4thh nmma fight)
win against Gonzaga (vastly over rated at the time)
Win against Tim sylvia
Loss to Ricco Rodruiguez
Loss to Josh Barnett (tested positive or roids)
win Pedro Rizzo
Win against Pedro Rizzo
Win against TK
Win against Randleman
Loss to Enson Inoue
win over Mo smith

He is 7-4 as a heavyweight, Losing against all the top heavyweights that he fought. Do you people realize that the best HW wins Randy has under his belt are against Tim Sylvia, and Pedro Rizzo?….yet you fools let the UFC trick you into thinking he is some kind of Heavyweight GOD!!!! He also DUCKED many top Heavyweights. He was in the UFC at the same time Arovski was in the UFC for about 7 years…why has he never fought Arlovski? why was Arlovski/couture never even been mentined or discussed? He ducked Nog forever….it took NOG looking pathetic against Frank Mir to get Randy to finally step up and accept that fight.

IMO, Randy’s career was much more impressive as a light heavyweight, but he basically only fought 4 fighters in that division: Chuck 3 times, Tito, Van Arsdale and Vitor (a couple of times)

I have always believed that Nog has boxing advantage over randy, and Nog would LOVE to be on the ground against Randy, on top or on the bottom. I always believed that Nog had the advantage everywhere this fight goes, accept for the clinch against the Fence, and it seems that Nogueira agrees with my assessment and his gameplan is to just avoid the Clinch, which is very smart.

I have been big on fighters earning title shots, and Randy has been given bunch of handouts by the UFC because he is marketable. Yes Randy has won UFC titles on a milllion different occasions, but he didnt deserve any of those title shots. anyone can win the title on any given night….what makes you a champion, is the winning streak that earned you the title or how you defended that title….and in those categories, Randy has been BELOW Average! He has only succesfully defended the heavyweight title a few times. He won it against Randleman, then he defended it twice against Rizzo in consecutive fights…He also won it against Sylvia, defended it against GOnzaga, who had no business getting a title shot, and then lost it to Brock!

When I think of Randy, I dont think of him as a GREAT Fighter, but I do acknowledge him as a once in a lifetime athlete similar to Lance Armstrong.

This is Nog’s fight to lose. ALWAYS Has…It just depends on how he is physically come fight night!

Basically, What is impressive about Randy is the age in which he accomplished everything…If we took age out of the equation, and ony gave him title shots when he EARNED them, he would be NOTHING SPECIAL!!!!

How do you figure he ducked top heavies. He gave up his title and quit the #1 mma org in history to pursue a fight with the so called #1 undefeated heavy.which now has signed with strikefarce cuz he is a chicken sh!t halfsteppin moist azz b!tch. I like both fighters equally. I wont be disappointed no matter what the outcome. Randy is the master of finding whole in other fighters and exploiting them, Nog is a f#cking warrior who stays cool and collected even when getting his azz handed to him,and still manages to win.

John if you want to be so ultra critical of Couture’s record, just take a look at your man crush Fedor’s record and apply the same critique. Trust me that will look equally as ugly. At least Randy hasn’t had to pad out his record with wins over such HW greats as Zuluzinhio, Hong Man Choi, Mark Hunt and Matt Lindland.

Come on Man, Fedor has beaten EVERYone in his era except Couture!

Good point attakdog! But trust me, it wont get through with john. And if/when Randy beats Nog, he will become the biggest Randy “hater” So again john, my comment from the other thread still stands “what a douche you are”

And he wouldn’t come to the UFC to fight couture, what does that tell you??

Seriously John apply your same critique to Fedor’s record. I cant be bothered, it’s been done a thousand times and’s getting old, but if you do you’ll see that Fedor’s mainly beaten up on cans and LHW’s and has only three or 4 quality wins. Works both ways champ!

and Barnet!

Couture and Barnett are the only 2 fighters that Fedor didnt fight (in his era) that I wish I could have seen fedor fight…Everyone else from that Era, he has beaten!

Nog multiple times
Cro Cop
Herring (top 10 at the time)
Shilt
Randleman (Randy won the title from Randleman)
Coleman (twice)
Arovski
Sylvia
Fujita
TK (who is a great fighter that doesnt get any respect from this site)

After this next year we can add: Werdum, Grim, couture, and Alistar to that list!

Back in the day, Fujita probaby woould have grinded out a decision win against our beloved Frank Mir! lol

I cant believe you listed Shilt, Fujita and Coleman, youre reaching Buddy. Shilt’s never been any good at MMA, Coleman was miles past his best both fights and Fujita (a weak @ssed puncher) nearly KO’d your hero. You see John when you strip it down, I’m right, the guy’s got 3 or 4 quality wins, Nog, CC and possibly AA.

JV: I talk mma around here with other peopple with great knowledge of the sport. YOU are semi-retarded…and have nothing to offer an mma debate with me, so I respectfully ask that you just keep my name out of your mouth and leave me alone. I have no DESIRE to hear your stupid opinion, and lack of knowledge and BRAINS. Find some high school kid to argue with! you should be playing with other people on your level.

ataack: there are plenty of fights on Fedors record that I am not pleased with, ALl FIGHTERS have Padding on their records…the difference is that Fedor has BIG WINS over a lot of top fighters, where as even Randy’s greatest accomplishments at Heavyweight arent that Special if you take age out of the equation.

I enjoy your post and respect your oppinions (attack)and you do usually keep it real, so I will be really surprised if you disagree with that statement!

your thoughts?

Attack, I respect your knowledge, so when you make a statement ike he is adfraid to come to the uFC to fight Randy, it really pisses me of. yOU are better than that! Randy and Fedor will fight, next August, but it wont be the UFC. a fight is a fight, and it doesnt matter under what roof the fight takes pace in. If Fedor Will fight Randy, so I gotta jump on you for that statement!

Who said anything about Fedor being “afraid” john. Now you’re putting words in my mouth and YOU’RE better than that. I merely asked you to interpret why he never came to the UFC to fight Couture, you’re the one who seems to have come up with the “afraid” argument, not me buddy.

how did gonzaga not earn his title shot john? he finished all of his fights and than cro cop’d cro cop ina #1 contender fight, he earned his shot fair and i would consider that under one of randys biggest wins

LMAO john! Keep your name out my mouth! I thought it was you on the Nate/Maia thread that couldnt resist replying to me you tool! Here I’ll do this for you,

Fedor = “the best” or “mma god”

Did you cream yourself? So thanks for making my comment even stronger about what a douche you are!

Hey John, you heard anything about Big Nog’s training camp. BloodyElbow has a post sayin that it’s not goin too good. I don’t know what to make of these rumors coz i haven’t seen anything-Possible diversion or haters or who knows. Also ever notice that even with the MMA media, the Nogs never get any love while tons of scrub fighters are always featured, hell this entire time you’d think that it was a All mighty Couture-Random former Champ fight the way it’s been marketed.

Mania- your content needs more Nog!!!

you can’t just judge someones career on their record…
and btw, If Randy was 30 now again with the skills he has today he would be dominating!

Don’t worry NNR, I don’t know if you saw the vid of Randy’s training but he looks like sh!t too… very slow mouvement. I believe that father time finally caught up with him!

Hope you’re right buddy. I am not doubting Nog though i never do.

I was really trying hard not to get involved in this Fedor talk but I just couldn’t resist John G you said:
“and Barnet!
Couture and Barnett are the only 2 fighters that Fedor didnt fight (in his era) that I wish I could have seen fedor fight…Everyone else from that Era, he has beaten!
Nog multiple times
Cro Cop
Herring (top 10 at the time)
Shilt
Randleman (Randy won the title from Randleman)
Coleman (twice)
Arovski
Sylvia
Fujita
TK (who is a great fighter that doesnt get any respect from this site)
After this next year we can add: Werdum, Grim, couture, and Alistar to that list!
Back in the day, Fujita probaby woould have grinded out a decision win against our beloved Frank Mir! lol”
NOG is a legit win and really makes Fedor one of the greats due to NOG himself not only being great but losing to Fedor 2 times(they fought 3 but one was stopped due to unintentional head butt)
Cro Cop – Is a kick boxer and literally is getting owned in the modern MMA era. The last time he had a meaningful victory was against Barnett in 2006. He got owned in the UFC his first time around and won due to eye poke in his last fight.
Herring – Who had he beaten at that stage in his career to be top 10 at the time? When he fought Fedor he was 20-7 and had lost to NOG, Belfort and anyone else that was good.
Shilt – I cannot even believe you put him on here! This guys biggest victories are over Pete Williams who was never really anything (no offense Pete), and Guy Metzger who is a LHW.
Randleman – what you forgot to mention was Randleman won the vacant title by beating Pete Williams before Randy took it from him. Pete Williams (again no offense Pete) is the best guy this true LHW has ever beaten.
Coleman – He can still go for an old man that is for sure but he was 40 the first time they fought and 41 the second and weighed 205 for both fights.
AA – has been hype for a long time, but I will give you this one. He doesn’t suck but has been beaten by Silvia twice. You do the math.
Silvia – Last time this dude won was to Vera and it was by decision. Other than that he is getting KOd by everyone.
Fujita – are you freaking serious even putting this guy on the list! His biggest victory besides beating Ken Shamrock (due to corner stoppage for exhaustion!) is Bob Sapp!
Tsuyoshi Kohsaka – This guy beat Fedor due to stoppage for a cut, and took NOG to a draw but other than that has lost to everyone of any kind of importance…. Whoops sorry again Pete… He did beat Pete Williams way back in the day.
After this next year we can add: Werdum, Grim, couture, and Alistar to that list
Werdum looked terrible in the UFC he went 2-2 and got KTFO by Dos Santos – so if Fedor does beat him so what.
Grim – this man can punch, but first he would have to beat him.
Overeem – I don’t know how they will make this fight happen, because he will never pass a drug test in the states.
Randy? – By the time he would get to fight Fedor he would be 47.

Father Time’s date with Randy is still put on hold by the UFC…

Don’t be too harsh on John bob. Just leave him be with his ranting. We all know that he worships Fedor, and will blindly defend him in the end, so you gotta give him props for that.

Couture has always fought the best there is to offer, and he’s always looking for a title fight. In MMA, records don’t mean everything nor are they necessarily a measure of how good a fighter is.

Nog is not the striker that Chuck was when he fought Couture. It is weird to see Nog’s coach talk about Couture’s punching power, since Nog isn’t exactly a Mike Tyson himself.

Irrelevant. That’s MMAth.

Jase, why not look at it this way, Tim was pounding on Nog before getting caught. Randy pounded on Tim for 5 rounds! What does that MMA-math say to you?

Exactly JV,Randy dominated Sylvia! Nog took a beating for about 13-14 minutes, then finally got it to the ground and subbed him. If you ask me I think Randy’s strategy was a little smarter. I just don’t see Randy losing this fight. Nog is gonna look like sh*t just like he did in the Mir fight. He’s all done, just like Chuck. Some people are just too beat up to continue a long lifed career in MMA. Look at Nog, he looks like he’s older than Randy!

Silvia was not at 100% He didn’t even put up a fight. Besides Timmy got suprised more than anything by that right hand he wasn’t rocked at all. Randy has no power standing or on the ground. His ending flurry on Gonzaga was borderline pathetic.

How was Sylvia not at 100%? And excuse me if i LOL, but, he “didn’t put up a fight” because Randy was controlling him and beating him at his own game the whole time! It doesn’t mean you have to KO someone to end a fight. If Randy can put Nog on queer street and get Nog to stop defending himself, the fights gonna get stopped! Nog is just too stubborn in his ways and is done evolving. We’ve seen his best days and they’re in his past! He hasn’t changed at all since joining the UFC. Randy will have his way with Nog in this fight just like he did a much bigger Sylvia.

How about needing back surgery and on the sidelines for a year afterwards. Timmy practically gave that belt away. I mean come on was that not his most horrible performance or what. He did so much better with Monson who had the same gameplan as Randy. Not a Silvia fan I just didn’t think Randy earned the title shot or the belt for that matter and I’d hate to see him get another title shot after just one win.

No, it was not. His most horrible performance was against Mercer. haha.

I don’t think Randy’s ending flurry looked bad at all against Gonzaga, especially when you consider the fact that Randy did that with a broken arm!

and you know what, it’s obvious he’s a moron just fishing for responses. I knew it and had to say something anyway……(sigh)

I know chef…..but you can only bite your tongue for so long with these type of morons, ya know…