UFC 102: New and improved Keith Jardine ready to make a run to the top against Thiago Silva
by MMAmania.com on Aug 23, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
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"The winner's still going to be top tier in the world and looking for a title fight, and fighting contenders, and the loser's definitely going to drop off.... It's just another fight, man. I'm fighting a really tough guy, a top-rated guy. I'm just in it for the fight, man. I don't care about all that other stuff.... More than anything, not too many people have been fighting the quality of people that I've been fighting from fight to fight. And I have had a few holes in my game, and I feel like I've been improving. I think I've fixed a lot of those holes.... It's a new and improved me, and it's the start of a run for me to the top of the UFC. That's the way I'm looking at it.... I've never been in a boring fight. It's going to be another really exciting fight. ... Fight of the Night-caliber fight."
Keith Jardine talks about fighting the best in the talent-rich 205-pound class, including former champions, Chuck Liddell, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, Wanderlei Silva and Forrest Griffin, as well as other tough guys such as Brandon Vera, Houston Alexander and Wilson Gouveia. As a result, "The Dean of Mean" has had a tough time earning a title shot -- he has been unable to string together a consistent winning formula (he's 4-3 against the competition). He's up against another stiff test this weekend when he takes on the previously unbeaten and hard-hitting Thiago Silva (13-1) at UFC 102: "Couture vs. Nogueira" from the Rose Garden Arena in Portland, Oregon. Can Jardine get over the hump and make a run at the division title or will Silva once again send him back to the end of the line?
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I’ve got Jardine winning but not easily. I do think someone will get KO’d either way.
by allamerican on Aug 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like his chances. I am a Jardine fan but I don’t know about this one. I will go with my gut and say Silva by Sub. in the 3rd
by iagoof22 on Aug 23, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love it anytime jardine gets ktfo and I am really gonna enjoy the beating thiago silva will put upon him.
by shamo84 on Aug 23, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea me too, in the clinch and on the ground is where i see it happening!.. Jardine is too weak and slow to hang with the top guys in the LHW div, his physique doesn’t allow him to be a top contender it’s that simple..
by RoBerto on Aug 23, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thiago isn’t a top guy right now but still good enough to finish him in the first..
by RoBerto on Aug 23, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got jardine by ktfo! similar to how the houston fight was going before he got ktfo!
but if im wrong at least this fight should end in devistating fasion, and thats something all of us can agree on
by Jared on Aug 23, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jardine’s quote carries a lot of weight going into this fight. He’s got the experience and just came off a great effort against Rampage. I’m guessing Jardine by decision. Thiago will have to KO Jardine to win IMO.
by THORAZINE on Aug 23, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree as well thorazine~
if this fight lasts the time, im thinking jardine should edge a decision..
imo~ silva has to finish jardine too get the win!
by stinky~fingers on Aug 24, 2009 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think jardine will win easily
silva is overrated and was getting tooled by a number of his opponents on the feet
Irvin
Drwal
Mendes
machida
just to name a few
i think jardine is the tougher guy and has faced way better opposition
jradine by KO
by ufcaddict on Aug 24, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ufcaddict- Thank you. I never gave into the hype over Thiago Silva. I think this should be an easy win for Jardine unless Thiago gets one of those quick knockouts in the beginning that Houston and Wandi pulled off. If Thiago beats Jardine, I will be impressed but I just don’t see it happening.
by RyanHobbs on Aug 24, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
T Silva has beat absolutely NO ONE of consequence. He is THE most over-rated fighter in the division.
by CL on Aug 24, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who has Jardine beat then? Liddell and Forrest? oh big deal.. Jardine and Forrest are two of the most overrated fighters in the division right now
by RoBerto on Aug 24, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RoB, what you got against Jardine? The guy aint my fave fighter (he’s my missus fave fighter and she’d scratch your eyes out if she read your comments lol) but the guy always gets my respect, he’s a warrior. The guy loses and he’s straight back on the horse against top level competition. He’s never spoonfed a can to give him an easy morale boosting win. I gotta respect that.
by attakdog on Aug 24, 2009 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jardine is a perfect example, when u think of fighters with ‘even’ ufc records[w/l], how they are still around..
imo~ even if jardine loses this fight, he probably still wont get cut.. and thats because he always entertaining, brings it and he doesn’t refuse fights.. he would fight anyone offered!!~
also imo~ i feel with a jardine win, maybe thiago slva might be on his way out!.
actually, im going on record! if jardine wins in impressive fashion, im saying silva will be cut..~
by stinky~fingers on Aug 24, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over-rated as they may be at this point, Wins over Forrest, Liddell and Vera are QUANTUMLY more impressive than Silva’s two most notable, Houston and Mendes. Eric “Ravishing Red” Shaffer, a bonafide journeyman, has wins over Houston and Mendes that are every bit as impressive as Silva’s. Silva can prove me wrong by winning this fight, but I am as of now, I’m completely convinced Silva is a B level fighter. Silva’s technical striking and defense are putrid, and he’s a relatively small LHW who has never appeared particurly fit coming into a fight. That recipe will not cut it vs any of the elite in this division.
by CL on Aug 24, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got nothing against him attakdog, I just gotta explain to these ppl that he’s about to lose this fight. I think i made myself clear enough
by RoBerto on Aug 24, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jardine will fight like he did against Chuck and grind out a 3 RD UD victory.
by DJ on Aug 23, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“TechnoViking doesn’t dance to music the music dances to TechnoViking”! War TechnoViking!!
by THORAZINE on Aug 23, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, g I am sorry CHEF, I may hit to many keys every once in a while but you will know nothing about MMA forever. Please try to contribute something. We know you can spell.
by iagoof22 on Aug 23, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you shine his shoes as well all american?
by Jared on Aug 23, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL not at all Jared. I just think it was funny. Come on, you gotta laugh at that! Why you gotta go and say something like that to me?
by allamerican on Aug 23, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. “looser” ha. rule of thumb: if you’re going to make fun of somebody, do it right. Otherwise you made yourself look dumb.
by reef23 on Aug 23, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I jump in on a lot of little verbal battles on here, it makes this site more fun! Anyways, the only time I ever get seriously involved is when you get the real ignorant posters. I see and read Chefs and iagoof22’s posts on a daily basis. I am not choosing sides, just simply letting chef know I thought his post was funny. Is there any harm in that??? And I read your posts as well. If you were in a verbal battle, I’d let you know if something you said was funny…It’s really not a big deal.
by allamerican on Aug 23, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem, he’s just breakin’ your balls’.. Salute’!… “Now Go Home n’ Get Yer’ F*ckin’ Shine Box!”
by THORAZINE on Aug 23, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goodfellas, one of my favorite movies.
by allamerican on Aug 23, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How come no matter how much you try and chew your corn, it still is whole when it comes out your @ss??? I’ve always wondered that…..
by allamerican on Aug 23, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iagoof22! just yukin’ it up here with tha’ boys! Havin’ fun is all.
by THORAZINE on Aug 23, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Jardine’s style being so ugly, he never wins easily. (just had to add that)
by allamerican on Aug 23, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He fights with momentum. He wades in with punches finish with a kick then backs up. Reset and rinse. He can’t fight in the pocket or while moving backwards, his clinch game is nonexistent even though he’s good at fighting for underhooks. So the way you throw off his supposedly awkward game is don’t give him space/time to reset. Also you can’t waste your energy trying to time his rhythm. Just get after him and put it on him. I think that fits perfectly into T’s style.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 23, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes it does, similar to houston and wandi and everyone knows how that worked out. thiago by brutal pounding.
by Egads on Aug 23, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a spot on tag No Name… Jardine is an easy fighter to like and he is right; he brings the fight everytime. Truth is the only way Jardine takes this one is if all of a sudden he started training with Cabbage 3 months ago and somehow Cabbage gave Keith his Chin.
I want Keith to win but I say crushing knockdown to tko finish early in the 2nd for Mr.T….. Silva.
by Big Zino on Aug 23, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, cabbage had the greatest chin ever.
by shamo84 on Aug 23, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the truth Shamo84, I’m beginning to think A. Silva n’ BJ Penn will never be KO’d either.. should be a scientific study on why these guys don’t get KO’d.
by THORAZINE on Aug 23, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well i’m not a scientist but I think I’ve got it figured out!
Are you ready?
Anderson: Because you can’t hit him square enough.
BJ: Because he’s got nothing in his head but a few rocks and some bong hit residue.
See…who needs a study?
All jokes aside that would be an interesting study!
by allamerican on Aug 23, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Name, I agree with you, but have to ask a question on what you think about Thiago’s last KO. After fighters get KO’ed like he did against Lyoto sometimes they fight a little conservatively which would favor Jardine. Do you see him coming out gun shy or crowding after exchanges?
by halljam2 on Aug 23, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true. Usually guys are a bit gun shy in their return. I would think no because of Jardine’s lack of serious power. Thiago wouldn’t have to worry much about getting caught even clean. The fact that he/his camp probly knows that his style and impatience are good things in this fight also make me believe that he wouldn’t be. But it’s so hard to even guess. We’ll have to see him prefight this coming week to see what mental state he’s in.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 23, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I’m sure Thiago realizes that he got KO’d by one of the best P4P fighters in the world and there is really nothing to be ashamed of with that. Just like how Lyoto KO’d Rashad which had never happened before. He didn’t get KO’d by a chump and I’m sure he realizes that. Either way, I’m very excited about this fight. It will produce some fireworks for sure!
by TheJared on Aug 24, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true, getting KO’ed by Lyoto doesn’t seem to be anthing to be ashamed of. It should be a pretty good fight. I am kind of surprised Jardine is the favorite. If he can slow it down and limit how often he gets caught with pretty good shots he can eek out a decision.
by halljam2 on Aug 24, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, ya can’t call him crisp..but he is a brute and he will be tested by this fight..i do believe it will end in KO..but who..i dunno!!
by sarah on Aug 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It would mosdef end in a KO[or TKO], and it would be ended by non-other than Thiago himself. Goat man won’t see the 3rd round. You heard it here first! Alert the media maniacs!! WAR THIAGO!! I really feel sorry for Jardine. HE always seems to be on the receivin’ end of a beatdown!
by Syd on Aug 23, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve not yet been impressed by T Silva. A win over Jardine would change that however. Silva does fight an agressive, fan-pleasing style, but his standup is loose, his defense poor, and for a guy not real big physically for the division, he’s never appeared particularly fit. If Jardine can avoid early problems, he should be in good shape. This fight should bring fireworks.
by CL on Aug 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thiago did look pretty big and fast against Houston, but that’s also the only fight he’s been in shape for.. Thiago has this fight however!
by RoBerto on Aug 23, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto RoBerto! Thiago Silva is the terminator, always movin’ forward even if he’s damaged goods. Check out the Machida fight, LOL…But in any case, Thiago takes this one. Either by brutal GNP, or hopefully, we finally see Thiago submitting someone[‘coz I can’t remember the last time he submitted someone, therefore garnering praise for his supposedly “sick” ground game]
by Syd on Aug 23, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he aint no terminator, wandy is the definition of terminator. but as much as i think thiago is overated fighters can change if he can impressively finish jardine ill jump on the bandwagon. i just need one impressive performance from him
by Jared on Aug 23, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can definetely see this as a fight of the night candidate.
by allamerican on Aug 23, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should change his nickname to Glass Jaw Jardine.
by jumponthis on Aug 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glass??? The guy got hit hard, those shots could have knocked out a moose.
by RoJ on Aug 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You obiviously havent seen the Liddell fight or the Rampage fight
by Ted Gilmore on Aug 23, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He still got dropped multiple times in both of those fights. He is good against counter strikers.
by E30kaiser on Aug 23, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn’t have a glass jaw. He took some of Rampage’ best shots. Getting KO’d by Wandi or Houston Alexander is nothing to be ashamed of. Both of them possess serious power.
by allamerican on Aug 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jardine is to inconsistent.
I don’t like his awkward creep style of fighting. Hope T.Silva beats him by a good old ground and pound!!!
by CagedAnimal on Aug 23, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I was thinking! I also found the Rampage fight hard to watch, too much like rock-em sock-em robots to me.
by gank on Aug 23, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Sardine… If you move up the LHW ladder, you might get in the way of Suga or Jones. You’re the b itch of those three, and the one noone really cares about.
War Thiago. Follow Wandi and knock the ugliest man in mma down a couple notches.
After Jardine loses, lets give him a rematch with Forest.
by Miketsi on Aug 23, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You mention wanderlai silva, then have the nerve to call Keith the ugliest man in MMA lol
by attakdog on Aug 24, 2009 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Rogan: “Jardine looks badly hurt, he is rocked!”
Joe Rogan: “Whoa!!”
Mike Goldberg: “AND IT IS ALLL OVER.”
Joe Rogan: “Thiago Silva is one bad dude!”
Mike Goldberg: “Let’s take a look at the Bud Light replay.”
by DirtyML on Aug 23, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i like Silva and Sardine so may the best man win. I just hope it’s a good fight where both guy’s come out looking good.
by natedog77 on Aug 23, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jardine can’t handle agressive chuteboxe types….. he will get ko’ed unless thiago hesitates … if thiago hesitates it’s gonna be a long night people
by mmakansas on Aug 23, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jardine has never done that good against aggressive fighters. I think he’s going to get KO’d. Its a good fight to put some money on since Silva is the underdog.
by My Couch Pulls Out, But I Dont on Aug 23, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the only thing that makes me think jardine could lose this fight is his apparent problem with that straight forward style that being said i dont think thiago has the same power as houston or wandy so its hard to say other then the style thiago is so over rated and i have no idea where it even comes from
he hasnt beaten anyone who has even been a threat of mattering in the division and looked worse against machida then anyone else machida has fought in the ufc
his style is pleasing to all the beer drinking booing fans so the UFC hopped on the hype wagon and started acting like he was way more then he is
if he can come out and actually control this fight and win i may give him a little more respect but even an early knockout just shows how jardine cant handle his style more then saying anything about the talent of thiago
by rylie on Aug 24, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holland’s fave nip, I mean pic of the Dean of Mean
by theCloser on Aug 24, 2009 1:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Say what you want about the Dean he is always in a good fight (win or lose) and he does always fight top guys!
by jet99 on Aug 24, 2009 8:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Jardine and since he lost his last fight that means he’ll win this one.
Oh and the picture is hilarious lol
by Lester The Pimp on Aug 24, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look at that pic & imagine who Jardine looks like. Put a black druid robe on him with the hood on his head. shave the hair off his face. Give him yellow eyes and keep all the wrinkles in that pic. OMG ITS DARTH VADERS MASTER, THE EMPORER OF THE SITH.
by KingP on Aug 24, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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