UFC 106: Shane Carwin explains his 'hate' for Brock Lesnar ...

Carwin bit off more than he can chew here and honestly, Brock’s antics, as ridiculous as they were seem somewhat reasonable. Everyone booed him before and after the fight and hate on him because he came from wwe. Fact is he is an awesome athlete and will continue to be a dominant champ. Personally, I can’t hate the guy and like watching him pound the sh!t out of people antics or not.

Carwin is going to really hate after Brock knocks him out and farts on his head.

LOL, PW. Again Carwin trying to play the comic book hero. You have to show respect to get respect. And those “fans” showed Brock no respect. So what do people expect? Brock will SMASH him for his blasphemy!

Carwin keeps playing to fans:

“greatest fans in the world”

It is funny how he is so quick to judge.

Let him who is without sin throw the first stone.

Carwin never said he hates Brock. Dana is putting words in his mouth to sell the fight.

brock is gunna be telling carwin the same thing he told mir " talk all your shit now" and carwin is gunna have the same kinda face as frank in this picture

Soon as Carwin takes down Brock, the UFC will be full of respectful deserving champions. Machida, A. Silva, GSP…okay, maybe not BJ, but we’re working on that one. ;)

When the medias published things like this to promote the fight… you got to know something is very wrong.

"[T]alking trash about your boss’s business partners is just ridiculous. I live in Colorado, the home of Coors, and me and my friends drink Bud Light. Can he really even like Coors? Or is he saying if you pay him enough money he will drink anything?"

-Carwin

only losers need to be respectful, brock can afford not to be!

he is gonna beat the sh!t out of him!

Well “Papa’mismo” my stone veered to far left and broke my neighbor’s window. Now I know why I don’t play baseball.

Even if Carwin loses, he wins. Brock is a douche. No matter how many people he beats to a pulp, he’s still a douche.

Technically, it scares me that Carwin ended up on his back against Gonzaga. Cawin has inferior wrestling and I’ve seen nothing to make me think his guard can neutralize Brock. He’s a rightful underdog.

However, I hope to hell he lands a big shot early and takes Brock out of his game.

Win or lose, I’m a Carwin fan. I could care less if Brock were to get hit by a bus. He truly does not respect the fans or the sport. His only redeeming quality is his work-ethic.

Punch, you have to give respect to deserve respect. The fans booed him from start to finish in that fight. I personally hope he acts worse than the last fight. Screw all you dudes who are booing him for no reason. He is gonna smash Carwin who deserves a shot at the title even less than Brock did. The only person I have seen mention that fact is JEREMY JACKSON. So Thank you Jeremy!

Looking at that picture of busted up Frank will never get old, that over-rated, mouthy piece of……

Mir talked all kinds of shit before that fight, and Brock made him eat that shit. Then when he shit out that shit Brock made him eat that shit that was made up of the shit the he made him eat.

Anyway, Muur is a piece of shit!

lol. PW you are one funny mofo.

You put a fight on in Minnesota and the fans would be going crazy over his name and I’m sure in many other places just ask BJ Penn about the fans I’m sure he felt like giving them the finger after both his fight with GSP. Some fan’s are hypocrites it’s ok for them to say and do what they want as well as their fauvorite fighter but when some one they are envious over or just plain hate they make a big issue out of nothing and some even start cursing and name calling if they were only smart enough to see the irony of it all LOL.

Plenty of fighters have been trashed talked by their opponent and booed by fans, but they didn’t act the way he did.

And again, my problem isn’t so much with the disrespect as the purely retarded manner in which he chose to display it. Huge man. Mental Midget.

Ultimately, I’m conceding he will probably win the fight, but I will never be a fan.

Jay, how do you figure Carwin deserves the title shot even less than Brock did? Currently Carwin has MORE MMA fights, and is STILL undefeated. Sorry? pardon me? oh yeah, Brock had 3 fights before his shot and was on a 1, count it, 1 fight winning streak.

If Carwin is so undeserving, then who is in the HW division? A quick scan….nobody else.

UFC champ I agree wholeheartedly that Carwin is the best legit shot at the belt at this moment. But, all the people who were whining and saying that Brock didn’t deserve a title shot, are not saying anything about Shane. Brock got it for the very reason that it was obvious he was the best HW in the UFC, as he still is. Carwin is not going to beat Brock so I see no reason to break his nice winning streak. Why not have had Carwin build a sort of legend about him, before making him look like MURRR up in that picture up there? I like Shane and wanted more hype to this fight. Shayne is the same fighter as Brock, just one step slower. This isn’t going to help Shane at all and a fight with Cain would have. Now Brock is going to embarrass him way to early.

Punch, agreed. I really put no stock in the fighters attitudes or post fight speeches though. If you don’t like how he behaves after a fight, get up and get a drink. No matter what B.J Penn says after a fight it makes me hate him more, so I leave. I would never boo him if he was competing at an event I was attending. I would silently pray for his demise, that’s all. That was a sad display by the fans at 100 and if you don’t understand where he was coming from don’t be a fan of his speeches but you have to appreciate his skills.

Everyone justifies Brock’s actions by saying Mir talked a bunch of trash before the fight. Well so did Brock, so don’t act like he was a churchboy and finally just got goaded into after saying nothing. Plenty of fighters talk a bunch of smack before the fights about their opponents, but I’ve never seen someone act like such a classless prick as Brock did after that fight. Look at all that smack BJ talked about GSP before the fight. GSP stomped his ass out and that was that. There’s no need to act like a WWE jackass. Whatever though, Brock fans will attempt to justify however they can. I would respect them more if they just said, “Sure he’s a jackass, but I like him anyways.” At least that’s honest and isn’t trying to sugar coat anything.

Tito Ortiz has the best post fight speeches, guys like Carwin disrespects the fans by being so boring and quiet Lesnar is the complete opposite what he does is for the fans, I know ppl don’t get it but that’s the way it is..

Jay about giving respect before you get respect….Brock said in his interview before the rematch with Mir he doesn’t give respect to anyone in the cage. It was his words. As far as I am concerned, Brock is the new man on campus, so is it not him who should be showing respect to the guys who have been doing this while he was F5ing people for a living? The fans boo him because since day 1 he has showed no proffesional or fan courtesy. He is still caught up in playing the villain. Also is it me or are the fans are the ones that pay his salary. As a fan, that is the ultimate sign of respect-purchasing a ticket for a live event, so jeers or cheers the fan should always be given some sort of respect.

Ohhhhh now I get it RoB…Lesnar is using some sort of Jedi mind tricks. The fans only THINK he’s insulting them by flipping them off and acting like an idiot. In reality though, he does this as a TREAT for us. I get it now.

I personally think the only thing really wrong and bad for MMA was the disrepecting of Bud Light. Fans want the fighters to act and behave a certain way such as GSP, but not all of them are as politically correct as him. Not to mention that it is kind of ironic how many people are offended by him flippin off the crowd but say nothing at all about the fans booing him. I found the crowd to be extremely disrespectful and was imbarrassed myself by them. If we as fans ask our fighters to behave a certain way shouldnt we expect the same out of ourselves?

As I stated above the only thing that really upset me was his risking a valuable mainstream sponsor for the sport I love, I was worried Dana would give him more than a verbal warning. His other antics of acting like an idiot and the whole wife thing, well that just shows he has little class and is not very intelligent. Confronting Mirr was bad sportmanship, but I think Mirr is a terrible sport. I am not a fan of Lesnars personality, but I simply do not listen to him talk. In the octagon I respect his game. He plays his strengths and negates his opponents. I actaully got up to get a beer when he started talking at 100 and had to go back and see what all the fuss was about.

I also wonder how much of what he said and did was self promotion. He has the entire world of MMA saying his name and thinking of him as the bad guy. Hell, Tito made a career out of that with half the talent. If there was a press release saying how good of friends Carwin and Lesnar were and pictures of them at each others family functions the casual fan might not tune in, but if they “hate” each other and one guy is the hero and the other the villain the casual fan is more likely to buy the PPV and hope that good prevail over evil.

No one is talking about the fact that this is a heavyweight title fight in the premier mma organization between 2 fighters with a combined total of 15 fights under their belts. good match up? Sure! But the way the UFC hands out title shots truly sickens me!

Everyone BASHES the thought of Fedor vs. Werdum, but Fact of the matter is that wERDUM DWARFS Carwin in terms of mma resume. Carwiin has DONE NOTHING in mma, except for beating Gonzaga. While WERDUM, DOMINATED GONZAGA twice! Werdum also has wins over current strikeforce champ, Alilstar Overeem, Brandon Vera, and Aleksander Emelienenko. with the exception of the Dos Santos fight (who is a young up and coming LION), Werdum has only lost to TOP competition. He lost to Arovski in a boring fight, but I give him a pass cause it was his UFC debut. He went to a decision with Nog in what was a really hard fought fight and a beautiful display of mma ground position and sweeps. His only other loss was to Sergei who when ON, is capable of beating just about anyone! Im not sure Carwin will EVER accomplish what Werdum has already accomplished in mma…yet its OK for Carwin to get a title shot agaiinst Brock, but everytime the thought of Werdum/fedor comes up, it gets BASHED! Get REAL!!!!

IMO, Grim has had a more impressive mma career then Carwin…but because Carwin is in the UFC and the UFC says he deserves a title shot…all of you are happy! Use your brains, and form oppinions for yourselves instead of taking Dana’s decisions and comments as MMA GOSPEL!!!

UFC hW division is still WEAK!

UFC HW division weak john lol, what the hell does that make SF’s, they’ve only got 4 fighters and a champ who cant fight in America.

You’re only kissing SF’s ass coz your man crush Fedor’s gone there and you’re desperately attempting to big them up to justify his move. You just make yourself sound completely deluded.

Look at what Werdum did while in UFC: had a pathetic Leites-esque showing against AA; boring decision win over a LHW; great win over GG; KTFO by Dos Santos. So he had one good outing in 4 UFC fights. Hence, he is no longer in the UFC and not eligible to challenge for the title there.

Honestly if SF signed Butterbean tomorrow (actually not that unlikely) John would be straight on here with a 10,000 post on what an amazing addition to the roster he is, how he would destroy everyone of the UFC HW’s and how he’s a genuine contender for Fedor to take on. That’s how blinded he’s become.

F*CK Bud Light, it’s not even an american brew anymore, i LOVE the fact that Brock dissed them!!! take their boos back to bulgaria. Coors light is the only huge american brewery left. tell me how on earth Brock owes ‘anything’ to the bud light brand??? did they pay for the birth of his child? did they buy him a car or a tractor? do they outfit him in shotguns and hunting equipment?? will someone with any FYI please tell me what in the hell brock lesnar owes bud light?? ANYONE!! PLEASE!! and none of this crap that they sponsor the company he fights for, what bud light does for the ufc is irrelevant to brock’s relationship with bud light. i’m sure as a fighter brock could care less about who’s name is on the canvas. ufc was just fine with mickey’s fine malt liquor as a sponsor

difference is strikeforce is a small organization that still Needs to grow…the UFC is the top dog and owes it to the fans to have 5 STACKED divisions. RIGHT Now, the division is week…but the division has a bright future once the young lions like dos Santos, Carwin and Cain grow up (career wise)…

basically all I am trying to say is that:
Fedor vs. Werdum, Grim, or Alistar is as good a fight as any fight that the UFC could put together withh its current Heavyweight roster!

you guys love putting words in my mouth!

Werdum was in UFC and got cut for sucking. Fedor refused to sign with UFC because he would rather pad his record with weak fighters. Overeem is shooting for the Guiness World Record for longest title reign without a title defense and can’t pass a drug test. Grim, while unproven, would be a great addition to the UFC. So Strikeforce has one good fighter, one good chicken-shit fighter and a pile of crap.

Pretty good analysis their P-Dub.

If SF ever want to be anything other than a “small organization” john, it really needs to get its champs to defend their belts more frequently than every three years.

Cung Le’s a joke obviously, but Overeem can actually fight a bit, but I cant take him serious as a HW. The guy’s best win at HW is over the headhunter (barely top 20) and we all know he wouldn’t pass a drug test in the US. Overeem should be stripped of the title and have Grimm, Fedor, Werdum and one other, have a mini tournament to crown a new champ, generate a bit of hype that way. Same with the MW’s.

Overeem deserve a bit more respect than that P-Dub. Grimm is a total overrated can but Carwin is not really better IMO. Strikeforce HW division is not better or worse than the UFC.

Why does Overeem deserve more respect Alph. The guy was an average LHW, with a poor chin and poor stamina, who lost to anyone he fought who was any good. He’s now juiced up to HW, but will still have the same weak chin and almost certainly even worse cardio and speed. Who’s he managed to beat at HW, Buentello, Goodridge and Hunt?? Wow! If you ask me he gets miles too much respect! I just dont know why so many people ride the Overeem train, it’s just beyond me.

I disagree that Grimm is an over-rated can too, for all I know you might be correct. The fact is none of us really know how good he is, he needs another quality win so we can truely gauge where he’s at.

I wasn’t making allusion to his record bro, but the roid accusation that comes with the reason of why he didn’t defend his belt in 2 years with Strikeforce. Peoples seem to forget that the reason was b/c he was fighting in Dream during that time. It’s stup!d to think that he was docking f’n Rogers who is a total can buddy, worst than Mir btw! You’ll realize it soon.

yes Diceman, Lesnar did it for the fans! cause those same fans love the sport and will watch the fights regardless of what anyone says after the fight..
Lesnar doesn’t need all fans to like him, he just need fans to tune into his fights and i guarantee you that they will, and I personally enjoyed seeing Brock do his thing I don’t take things like that too seriously, It’s all show..

Point taken about overeem. Give Grimm some credit buddy, he cant be as bad as Murrrrrr lol. You’re probably right about rodgers, I certainly haven’t jumped on his hype wagon after one freak Ko of a chinny AA, he needs to prove himself against another top contender.

lol, to be honest with ya, I don’t even know why he’s in the top 10 of the HW division. the guy got no footwork, a sloppy stand up, no ground game. What do you expecting him to do, against a guy like Fedor? Plus in his last fight AA wasn’t out at all. It was a quick knock down but he didn’t put AA to sleep like Fedor did, so I still suspect him on a tons of levels.

I hate his hair cut too. Mr T wannabe!

I would love to see him fight Kongo to see if he really is a KO artist.

Yeah, that’d certainly test his credentials. He certainly wouldn’t be in my top 10 yet Alph, he needs another win.

Definitely, and a win against a top 10 opponent!

i’m not sure his wife was insulted though…

what he meant was that the fight was so easy that he still got the energy to get laid. that wasn’t direspectful

Carwin has the class Lesnar lacks, I hope he can beat the Minnesota turd and teach him a lesson.

Hi everyone, I’m Shane Carwin. I’m big too, just like Brock, but I wont be nasty to you, I wont flip you off. Please everybody love me. Pretty Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease.

Ha ha, Carwin is like Barney the Dinosaur, a big goof who wants everyone to love him.

Lol P-Dub! Brock’s gonna love making Barney’s face a permanent part of the octagon floor.

New nickname: Barney Carwin!

I’m down with that, i’ll be using that from now on.

Attackdog – I completely agree.

Carwin saw an opening to promote himself as the hero to Lesnar’s villain and has gotten a title fight without proving he is truly the #1 contender out of it. All the while stating he is doing it for the fans blah blah blah.

I find a few things crazy about the whole thing.

1. He is close to Lesnar’s size and yet nobody questions this man about present or past steriod use as they do with Lesnar.
2. The only person he has beaten of any mention is GG, and besides the punch he looked sloppier than Lesnar ever has.
3. Carwin is an extremely smart man(degrees in engineering) and realizes that he is not getting any younger(34). He needs his time to come as quickly as possible. If he would not get his shot now it would be at probably 9 months before he would get his next and then he would be be closer to 36 than 35.

He is trying to get his while he can.

“You going to do something, or just stand there and bleed?”

He looks like a 3-year-old with a plate of french fries and ketchup.

…and the expression on his face makes him look like they took awaythe plate before he was finished

Dam Mexi..that quote is very familiar but you’ll have to fill me in…I wanna say Eastwood

Looks like a cartoon character from loony tunes…

Mac — It’s from Tombstone, Kurt Russell to Billy Bob Thornton dealing cards in the saloon.

doh!!! good call

Yes, Tombstone. That movie has some great one liners.

Kongo is going to smash Mir back to where he belongs: the middle of the pack.

So the guy in at the back of the bus is going to put Mir in the middle. No so JJ. Not so.

We’ll see Champ. Mir is under the illusion that he has world-class striking, and he will test it against Kongo. Kongo will give him a kickboxing lesson and smash him into unconsciousness. Kongo’s ground game might be terrible, but he does have sub defence. This will be a bad night for Mir.

Keep drinking Mir’s cool-aid, champ. The expiration date on the “can” is December 12 !

Kongo also should be middle of the pack. He’s a big strong dude but sundial slow and total crap on the ground. ANY UFC HW decent wrestler will do him on points easy.

Kongo IS middle-of-the-pack. And Mir will be keeping him company there after UFC 107.

And then, after his next fight, after Kongo, he will be kick out of the UFC!

Awesome, I feel like I’m talking by myself today. 7+ hours in mod… it’s fantastic, I love it!

Jj I told you Mir would make a believer out of you this fight won’t prove much I know but it’s a decent fighter that Mir should handle easily I think Kongo is ranket around 15th in the world not to shaby but not worth Mir prestige going up if Mir loses I’ll will be taking a lot of shit but rightfully so LOL>

JJ you are too generous. Mir will take his place right in between Justin McCully and Antoni Hardonk. Beaver, you know my feelings on “Mur.”

Holy! TUF crowd here tonight. You guys don’t give Mir enough credit.

JJ, I think Mir is “saying” he’s going to strike against Kongo (Kongo’s strong point) just to f-him up. For Mir’s sake I hope so.

…and ALPHA, Kool-aid, Kool-aid! Tastes great! Kool-aid, Kool-aid! Can’t wait!

good heavens! mir who? lol, champ you will be embarrassed after kongo trashes your mir..

lol, enjoy Champ!

“Just thought i’d let you know you’re sitting in my chair.”

Is that a fact?

Yaeh, but I don’t want to see Cain get a shot on virtue of a relatively unimpressive victory over Kongo and a win over Rothwell. I think Cain is way too small to give Brock problems, especially considering the fact that he’s a pretty sloppy striker. Lesnar/Velasquez is not a title fight I would be particularly interested in seeing.

I wanted a legit PROVEN #1 contender, and that’s what Carwin would have been, while at the same time moving Cain back a notch, which is where he belongs IMO. But I’ve bitched enough about this. I’m stoked for this fight.

I tend to agree. by not having the that fight, the UFC will have another legitimate contender for the HW belt. Rather than have a situation in that weight class like in WW division where, say, Mike Swick might have a chance at a title fight.

JJ – we’ve already discussed this the other day but answer me this outta curiousity…Cain beats Rothwell, NOG beats Randy, Dos Santos beats CC…who gets the next shot?

I would think Cain. He was set to face Carwin in a No. 1 contender fight, so if he stays undefeated he’ll probably get the next shot. Nog and Randy are both coming off losses, so it would be harder to justify giving either of them a title shot for one win, especially Randy since he already lost to Brock. But just based on past accomplishments I wouldn’t be surprised if the winner there gets a crack at Lesnar. Dos Santos needs to destroy Cro Cop, then destroy at least one other opponent. Nobody knows who he is right now.

makes perfect sense really.

if your were so rocked how could have good enough senses to take someone down and beat the crap out of them…i think it proved brock can take a punch

agreed with joe daddy…but I understand where guys are coming from here…Brock has yet to prove he can take more than one good shot and/or recover from an onslaught…chances are slim but I’d like to see how Brock does from the bottom

thats what I doubt…I don’t like to bet against Jackson’s camp…Shane has the tools to get it done and will have a good gameplan to boot…PW, your starting to remind me of AdamG before the BJ/GSP bout…;)

BROCK! BROCK! BROCK!

BROCK! BROCK! BROCK!

yup because lossing 2 ina row to high profile fights really means u suck, ur sucha moron..

Sad but true.
Arloski KO’d by the best then steamrolled by a guy that works at Wal-Mart. And he still wonders why people question his chin so ya “Nobody can help Arloski”.

Sorry, I guess my Kdog MMA Etiquette Handbook is lost in the mail.

aaahhhh the unwritten rules of mocking.

Could Lesnar not say that this was prefight hype for a possible rubber match between the two of them?

That was after the choke. And Pulver had no problem with it because Pulver called Penn before Penn fought Florian and wished him good luck. That was on BJPenn.com.

That is what I am saying DubNub makes no sense. He claimed stuff that never happened and stuff that isn’t happening.

If Mir and AA lose they will drop Mir still might hold in depending on how he lost NOg losing to the 6th ranked would just cause them to swap rankings I believe.

Not fair still. How can someone who is seconds away from losing to Silvia and HH be number 5? Are these rankings only based on W/L? Sure Nog wins but damn. Don’t forget Carwin and Rogers should both move up with impressive fights, so Nog could conceivably move down to 8.

AA has been knocked cold out in his last two fights, the last one in 22 seconds. Are there really not 10 HWs in the world better than him right now?

I’d pick Kongo to beat AA but still wouldn’t have him in the top ten…AA is a tough guy to figure out…looked great against Fedor until he got silly and the Rogers fight was just unexpected

These rankings look as much like a career achievement award or a nod to reputation as a real top 10. The rankings should reflect the 10 best HWs in the world RIGHT NOW. Notre Dame doesn’t get to be in the college football top 10 just because they won a bunch of national titles in the past.

very true

lol @ DirtyML

Maybe you need to watch his other UFC fights again, because it happens a lot, and it didn’t start with those two ‘lackluster’ fights.