i wouldn’t call it weak, but it would have been bigger for strike force to get him.

a weak addition to the UFC LHW division? please tell me youre joking? he is going to make 90% of the guys in the UFC look like amatuers, and for sure give the top 10% a run for their money, get ready for mousasi to make a splash

VM means Lil Nog is going to the UFC not Mousasi (at least not yet).

Hey we get to see Fedor and Mousasi spar together what are you guy’s complaining about LOL.

stupid

oh… my mistake

Has Mousasi actualyl signed a multi-fight deal with Strikeforce, or just fought on this last card? I didn’t think I heard he signed one way or the other just yet? I’d love to see him fight in the UFC.

Valeu haglnuts, valeu mesmo

Better than 99% of the UFC Roster? Yo bro where you gettin your hydro from I want some. He looked good against Babalu, but to say he could beat Rampage, Machida, Evans, Thiago Silva is laughable. Im not syaing he couldnt but to say it like its fact is not the best assumption.

The guy definately looked like a killer. He looked like he was bored in there for the 15 secs he fought Babalu. I think he’s ready to face some higher end talent that’s for sure. He’ll be in Strikeforce limbo without anyone to fight if he doesn’t bolt.

He would beat Thiago Silva before the fight even started, Thiago Silva isn’t that good at all but other than that i agree…

I’d write some long winded post as to why I hope SF goes under, or at least goes back to the minor leagues, but whats the point?? I’ve already argued this one to death, it’s boring. I want all the best fighters under one org, fighting the best. Thats it; I got nothing against capitalism or making a buck but when the concensus #1 ranked HW in the world drops down to fight inferior comp instead of #2 it’s time to make some changes. The cross promoting boxing model has already been done; time for something new. UFC all the way! One pro org and the rest can be the minors/proving grounds.

UFC! USA! UFC! USA! WOOOO! YEA! OH HELL YEA!

WAR DANA!
WAR LORENZO!
WAR ZUFFA!

I’m with you on that opinion. I’m tired of the boxing model as well. One banner, one belt per class. I don’t want 5 orgs with 5 HW champs, and then arguing over fights that will never happen until these guys get old. The typical fighter career is short lived, so put them in the best fights and make them happen. That’s why the UFC has succeeded because they have delivered (for the most part) the fights we want to see. You’ve got to give them credit for pursuing Fedor, but screw him now. He’ll be over the hill before too long.

Spot on, Diceman. Well put.

thank god some one on here still has a brain. don’t bother with puck he is a UFarCe only fan boy.

Couldn’t have said it better myself….well maybe I actually did…Who knows? My post never came up.

Diceman-

Truth.

Right on Diceman.

MMA fans…er, I mean…Ultimate Fighting Fans had no problem with Strikeforce when Affliction was around (good fights, easy viwership, cheaper tickets, solid cards, likeable ownership)…then Affliction folds and Strikeforce finds themselves in the #2 slot, Ultimate Fighting Fans turn on them about 2 seconds after Dana starts calling them “strikefarce”.

The 90% of Ultimate Fighting Fans that you speak of are nothing but a bunch of sheep….Baaaaa, baaaaa…..

don’t follow the heard.

No, just rather see the good fighters fight the good fighters, not mediocre fighter vs beginner. Fun to watch on some levels, but certainly not the top level of MMA. Will I stop watching Strikeforce, no…however, I recognize that if its UFC vs Strikeforce on any particular night, UFC stages the better fights with the better talent. If Strikeforce wants to be successful they just need to avoid tangling with the UFC until their roster allows them to compete.

Wow I was expecting to get flamed for that. I’m happy to see there are some MMA fans left and not everyone is strictly a UFC fan.

I like Strikeforce, but my opinion of them took a hit when they signed Fedor. Strikeforce was following a good business model. They were puting together solid shows with some good fighters, and they weren’t overextending themselves. I don’t know what it cost Strikeforce to get Fedor, but I’m guessing it’s more then they should have paid. Add that to the fact that Strikeforce doesn’t offer any intriguing matchups for Fedor.

And, Fair or not, Strikeforce is on the receiving end of fan frustration aimed at Fedor.

Not against Strikeforce signing Fedor, just against Fedor signing to a lessor promotion to protect his record. Strikeforce did good in this signing, but quite frankly, if Fedor is truly as bad as he is hyped up to be, there is no one on the Strikeforce roster that will be a challenge to him. So, he’s only proved he can get paid, big deal. I like Strikeforce, they put on good fights with mediocre fighters (for the most part) and do provide an option, but the UFC is the cadillac, just like the Canadian Football League will never be the NFL. Diaz is almost out of potential threats, Fedor has none, and most of the other classes don’t have depth as well. Would you actually pass on Couture vs Nog or Machida/Shogun to watch Fedor/Werdum?Rogers? or Diaz vs Riggs? Heiron? c’mon

I’ll tell you what it cost…Gegard got $2k.

so you don’t know anything about the deal but they paid to much? and a fight with overeem,werdum,paul, or rogers would mean nothing?

No, it wouldn’t mean nothing, it’s just not a comparison to the fights the UFC offers. You’re right I don’t know the deal, none of us apparently do. But, it’s painfully obvious that Fedor could have put on mega fights in the UFC, but chose to go to a lesser promotion to fight weaker competition. Now, tell me I’m wrong?

Compare to the last strikeforce event, their production part improved, It was much better. Strikeforce it’s doing the right things now, and I love the UFC and I think Dana White is a great promoter, but he doesn’t need to turn against them b/c Fedor pick them over the UFC, sore looser. You are right on target Diceman!

Fedor chose to do what he did because…

Only Fedor knows the truth.

Everything else is speculation.

You are wrong.

@ slim

So, I’m wrong that the UFC offers better fights for Fedor than Strikeforce or any other promotion for that matter? You have got to be kidding me, right?

Slim-

“but chose to go to a lesser promotion …”

Why?

That’s the answer no one truly knows. The rest of your reasoning is fine.

i am not- yeah they got lesnar and about 2 other guys witch is about what strikeforce has.

lesnar-maybe great still has some things to prove
coulture-great but old
mir- sucks
carwin- one solid win
cain- good up and comer still young still unproven

overeem-solid stand up and ground
werdum- highley ranked for a long time great bjj
paul- vet not that great
rogers- up and comer one solid win still umproven
plus strike force will deal with dream and anyone who wants to cross promote so guys like gilebrt or other hw’s out there you could see come in.

thje ufc is a little better at hw but not alot.

Strikeforce will keep Dana motivated to maintain the quality of UFC event at a high level, which is good for us fans. Strikeforce will also provide an alternative promotional venue for fighters, which will keep the UFC on it’s toes. This is good for fighters. A total UFC monopoly means higher prices, less opportunity for fighters, and heavy-handed contracts. While short-term thinkers will focus solely on missing out on an occasional top level fight…..long term….the sport is better off with options.

Sho Gun Mir would work your list of Strikeforce fighters watch there latest fights and stop going by who beat who Sherdog doesn’t tell the whole story buddy.

The only problem I have with strikeforce so far is paying mousasi 2k wtf. Probably more M-1 though, suddenly that 40 and 40 offer from the UFC sounds pretty good for a guy that made 2k.

you don’t actually think thats what he made do you? i hope you know better.

puck mir would beat no one on that list, quit listening to what dana tells you and learn something you f-ing tool.

Ohh we got a intelligent one here LOL I’m sorry to I agree Mir would work all those guy’s I’m not sure about Rogers. Same goes with Carwin, old man Randy, Brock, NOG & maybe even Cain. Gonzoga would be able to compete with those guy’s I say 2 win and two losses. Doesn’t Sherdog tell you who fights in Dream Shogun I’m sure you could of tossed a couple name out there? But really you ain’t fooling anyone we all know the UFC belt is the only ligit belt for #1 status in MMA it’s time you dealt with that fact Sho.

I wasn’t talking about Fedor’s decision to go to Strikeforce. I was talking about all the UFC fanboy’s hating on Strikeforce all of a sudden because Dana told them to. Use some logic-a month ago everyone said that Strikeforce is a good promotion and “doing the right thing”. Another promotion folds and they pick up some good fighters, including maybe the best fighter in the world. They are now able to put on better fights. So, WHAT HAS CHANGED? There isn’t one reason in there that should make people dislike Strikeforce. They didn’t say they were going to try to compete with the UFC, they didn’t say they were going to do PPV now. All they did is what they have always done…try to get the best fighters available and put on good fights. Somehow, using some twisted thinking, this has some people hating Strikeforce now. It really makes no sense. Fedor isn’t in the UFC. We’ll probably never know if Mir or Werdum would be a better opponent for Fedor. It’s over, so deal with it. Or just continue to sit here and cry like spoiled brats that a professional trying to make a multi-million dollar deal, including the company he has an ownership in, didn’t consult you before he made his decision. Get over it. We can all enjoy the UFC AND Strikeforce. If you’re an MMA fan there’s no reason not to.

Yeah I’m a UFC nuthugger, but I have to say I want one major org. Strikeforce puts on good cards and I do enjoy them being the alternative.

I think SF is taking plenty of shit for signing Fedor, oh well that’s how business goes. You make a big move, you get a big target on you from the competition, that’s how it goes. Let’s see how SF handles the M1 curse.

One more thing, who else wants to complain about UFC salaries?? Randy? Tito? I didn’t think so. Shut up and get back to fighting, or sign with M1FORCE and get your 2k. I’m sick of all the whinning.

Diceman we all wanted Fedor in the UFC not Strikforce that’s for sure so don’t even argue it. We are all for good fights but 99% of MMA fans want the best against the best on the #1 stage. Were was Strikeforce when states were banning MMA, Were was strikforce when the UFC spent milions trying to prove to critics MMA is a sport, … I an go on and on but what the hell did strikeforce do besides collect from everything the UFC did? There’s honor in everything we do and honestly Strikforce can put on good fights but when they take fighters away from the UFC wich is basicaly every MMA fan in North America and don’t consult the fans or UFC first they stabbed us all in the back I got rid of Showtime and I will never pay for any event M1 is in as many of fans stated the only proving grounds for Fedor is the UFC so have the coward Strikeforce and all the money he cost you to fight worthless fights as many of Fedor fans stated before would never happen LOL.

Diceman, yes, I’m calling you out for old times sake but I’ll only say this: You post the best long-winded comments of anyone on this site!!!

Lol, thanks RedDog. Beaver-yes we all wanted Fedor in the UFC, but guess what? He’s not there, and there’s nothing any of us can do about it except cry like babies which some of you are doing. Your argument against Strikeforce is pointless and dumb. Where was the NBA when Dr. Naismith started throwing basketballs through a hoop? Where was the MLB when people started hitting balls with wooden bats? Where was the Premier League when people started kicking balls around? It just doesn’t work like that. Just because the UFC helped to popularize the sport of MMA doesn’t mean they are the only one’s that have a right to promote it. That makes zero sense. What about PRIDE? They were more popular than the UFC during MMA’s struggling times. There were other orgs. that helped MMA become what it is today but I don’t hear any of you talking about that. All I hear is people regurgitating the things that Dana says in an attempt to squash out as a competitor. That’s pathetic. As an MMA fan you should be able to see that it’s impossible for all the fighters to fight in the UFC. Hell the UFC cuts people all the time. What, because they’re not good enough for the UFC they don’t deserve to be professional mixed martial artists? Dana said all that crap about Affliction trying to piggy-back on the UFC’s success because they were competition. During that same period he said Strikeforce was doing the right thing and you all agreed. Now capitalism reared it’s ugly head and Strikeforce signed a fighter Dana wanted and now he starts crying foul because he didn’t get what he wanted. And all of the blind UFC only fans started crying foul for him without thinking about it for themselves. And you want a company to consult another company and the fans before making a deal? Are you being serious? So Scott Coker gets on the phone with Dana, “Hey Dana, you know I have a major TV deal and a major company to run, but I still feel like I need to ask your permission to sign a fighter because you’re the president of another promotion.” How stupid would that be? Personally I don’t feel stabbed in the back because no one from Strikeforce called me to ask if it was OK with me if they signed a fighter.

don’t bother with him dice he has dana so far down his throat he dosn’t know better.

Sho do you know what your talking about or do you just like insulting the posters are dosn’t you know better?

dam and people say they can’t understand what i write get back to school. sorry i try to not insult people sometimes but you say stuff that is so stupid there is no debating it other than to laugh at you.

You said yourself peaple can’t understans whay you write? Is that not enough proof who is really stupid? Anyway stick to the subject we obviously can’t agree on this one so get over it just because other’s don’t agree with you or me doesn’t make them right or wrong or stupid it’s simply their opinion as so is yours.

some things are opinions but you just talk trash on fighters and make no sense sometimes you sound like a hater and thats why i attack you.but seriously are you 15 or younger? i am not talking shit but come on you can’t spell “peaple and understans”.

Oh how ironic is this coming from the biggest trash talker on fighters LOL. dosn’t u no wen sumbuddy is moking u? But then again I shouldn’t be giving someone as young as yourself to much grief I was once always right and everybody else was stupid.

witch fighters do i talk trash on? listen kid i am alot older than you. at least summer is coming to a end and i want have to see your bs here as much.now back to school with ya.

Sure I believe you.

what did you finally use spell check? dam your getting older right before our eyes. tell me when you graduate high shcool i will send you a gift. maybe hooked on phonics or something.

LOL you guy’s are hilarious I wasn’t going to get involves but spell checkers have always bugged me and my fat fingers. Sho what is a shcool? Do you know what the word dam means?
1. a barrier to obstruct the flow of water, esp. one of earth, masonry, etc., built across a stream or river.
2. a body of water confined by a dam.
3. any barrier resembling a dam.
 I’m trying to figure how that works in your sentence? Ohh or did you mean DAMN? Shogun if your going to cut someone else for spelling mistakes make sure don’t make them yourself it makes you look like a senseless hypocrite. Thanks guy’s I had a good laugh but both you need to go back to shcool.

beaver if your going to jump in make it good that was pretty weak. i can’t even tell you two idiots apart now get back to school with puck and tutor that kid or something he needs help.

I think the reason that everyone says that strikeforce is terribleis because having two major mma organazations means that well probably never see fights like fedor vs lesnar or some other great fights.

Exactly. The more orgs the less potential for awesome fights. Yes, you get to see MORE fights, but I’d rather see quality over quantity, which is what this whole discussion boils down to.

Agreed 100% and clearly as introvert would put it 90% of the best fighters fight in the UFC the other 10% or chickens BOK BOK BOK LOL. As a fan of MMA we want to see the best fight the best I would much rather see Werdum and Overeem go at it than Fedor against either of them. I love what Dana and the UFC has done for MMA and made it the SPORT it is today Strikeforce wouldn’t be around piggy backing off the UFC success wich is fine but in my opinion there should only be one stage for the best to compete on the “colesseum of MMA” the UFC. I’m sorry to say the Stikeforce belt is not worthy belt of the #1 fighter in any weight class and if you want to be called the best prove it in the UFC were the most MMA fan’s watch. I’ll watch any good fight were the fighters are close in talent but I won’t support Fedor on his quest to pad his record and fool the foolish fans that he’s the greatest HW. And almost every Fedor fan on here before his signing said the only place he could go is the UFC because Strikeforce and Dream don’t have fighters that would have a chance against Fedor it’s funny how they changed there tone LOL.

puck you have to be the stupidest mother fucker on this site, or just the youngest and don’t know better.

gun you know your wrong when you need to come up with insults towars the poster and not the post it’;s clear your intellegence can’t win an arguement so you need to resort to name calling? Brutal if you ask me but then again I think we all know who the real kid is here don’t we Sho Gun you above comment sounds like a grade 10 or 11 student. But don’t be mad I caught you i coach football and I see you have passion but remeber when ever you resort to name calling or violence you are wrong no if and’s or but’s about it you just lost the arguement listen then debate and the biggest problem you young one have is admiting when your wrong I have never seen that from you Sho. I like your passion but keep it on the topic and admit defeat or shut up and learn.

sorry about the spelling I must have fat fingers tonight LOL.

Sorry about the missing letter’s I need a new keyboard.

The point is Daniel we the fans want to see the best against the best fight in a proven organization wich there is only one and Strikeforce has taken that away from us and we deserve to voice or opinion as we do pay there bills in the end. It’s not who’s better we all know the answer to that it’s other organizations coming in and scooping up fighters from us and it is taking from us because without us there would be no UFC wich we the fans helped the UFC become what it is today and the reason the UFC has so many fan’s today is because the UFC gives us what we want and always had. When we wanted Pride and the UFC fighters to fight the uFC did their part and got stabbed in the back so they bought Pride and I as a fan respect why the UFC doesn’t want to do that again.

yeah there ok fights, just not great.

if any of jardine, vera, t silva, nog or randy were in strikeforce they would be headlining in title fights. thats all in one card for ufc and none of them are even for a title, shows how strong the depth of talent is in the ufc.

i never said anything about randy or nog but jardine and vera who cares, they would be fighting in a title fight in strikeforce and losing badly to gregard.

melendez vs anyone- no there not.

the ufc would not let them fight each other anyways.

hey shogun maybe you should be getting ready to get your ass kicked by the champ

Exactly…figheters scattered sucks. That’s how boxing went, and look how that mess turned out. Give me all the fighters under one tent and make them fight each other. With no other options, this team bullshit of not fighting each other will cease. I want the fighters treated fairly also, but when you have 200 individual opinions, and the option for each of them to make their own decisions, it’s chaos and shit fights. I like them not having that many options within an org. I got no issues with Strikeforce, but fedor really took a step back. There are no fights for him there, and if he manages to lose one fight, his legacy will be tarnished since most people think of this as a farm league.

Then you agree that Fedor is a top fighter?

hmmmm

And who is to blame for fighters not fighting each other?….THOSE DAMN COMMUNIST BASTARDS!!!!…remember when they wouldn’t let Randy fight Fedor?…oh ya….nevermind.

Fedor is a top fighter, but he’s fought everyone outside of the UFC that has any talent (and alot who don’t). If he loses in Strikeforce, he’ll be viewed as someone who wouldn’t have lasted in the UFC anyway. It’s a lose/lose situation to me, unless you count the payday. Even Tito had some sense when it came to this.

Believe it or not, more options for us as MMA fans is a good thing.

Besides, when the UFC comes around and starts making Kos v. Fitch or Rashad v. Jardine, THEN you can use the missed match up excuse.

Until then, that reasoning is flawed.

“he’ll be viewed as someone who wouldn’t have lasted in the UFC anyway”

By whom? Dana? The sheep?

Certainly not his fans, or more importantly…Fedor. Everyone loses once and a while…..that’s why they have the fights. Anyone who pisses on a fighter for one loss is an idiot…plain and simple.

I’m not against more options at all, but the more options you got the more fighters get scattered and we all lose out on great fights or super fights in lieu of the almighty dollar. All the orgs get watered down, and we’re all left hoping that Don King can make those fights happen once in our lifetime. In boxing, we missed so many awesome fights that could have happened..but never did. Or if they did, the fighters were a shell of what they used to be. Good example is Fedor vs Couture. If it happens, now, it’s not the same.

I understand the reasoning but having other orgs challenge the UFC is a good thing.

The quality of what all the MMA orgs put out will have to increase substantially in order maintain competition.

Monopolies are never good in any business field.

Case in point : this very thread.

Do you think the UFC would have replayed UFC 100 out of some sort of gesture of loyalty towards MMA fans?

Having Strikeforce around pushes the UFC to work harder and air a $50.00 PPV on “free” cable.

More publicity for MMA as a whole, we win as MMA fans…

All because Strikeforce has the audacity to challenge the UFC.

No doubt, not an arguement from me there. I can see both sides of this coin, but having been an avid boxing fan years ago prior to UFC, it was murder not seeing those superfights happen time and time again, only to see the greedy promoters get rich off weak-ass fights, and the top boxers duck the #1 contenders so they could hold on to their belt for years. It was sickening how watered down each organization got.

I don’t technically see where Strikeforce challenged the UFC, only in that they went after the same fighter. I don’t believe Strikeforce feels they can compete with the UFC, but that they have their own niche. However, UFC sees any org as competition and in a strategic business decision, look to market their brand heavily to squash the competition. Dana just does that with an in-your-face style that is distasteful to many. If he acted more professional about it, we probably wouldn’t be bitching.

Introvert..so, if Fedor loses to someone in Strikeforce, everyone will continue to think he’s the best ever? If he wins, everyone will expect it and he’ll have proven nothing. Face it, the UFC is considered the big leagues, like it or not, like Dana or not, the best fighters are in the UFC. If he really wants top competition, he should have gone to the UFC. He stands to lose more going to Strikeforce, with exception to dollars.

Good points, slim.

Keep contributing, you got some credible posts there.

I feel like a lot of people are missing the big picture here. The UFC made an offer to Fedor and he believes that building his promotion is better for himself. His decision. I agree that the UFC doesn’t need to co-promote, it’s not in their best interest. Strikeforce THEN signed him. They didn’t steal him away. They just had an offer that the UFC wouldn’t match. According to Dana, it has to be for less money than he was offering. Keep in mind, the various promoters are interested in what is better for each of them and not in “getting to the bottom of who is the best fighter”. They promote MMA as a sport so that their org can grow.

That’s what it comes down to. You can call Strikeforce the “minor league” all you want. But maybe the Fedor signing will increase their visibility and close the gap. HBO made a ton and added a lot of subscriptions by showing the top boxing matches. Showtime is hoping for the same…so is Strikeforce. Everybody is competing. UFC is on top now but some say that PrideFC was bigger/better at one time. Things can change.

The UFC may start to lose fighters who don’t like the exclusive contracts…like Fedor, Lindland, Overeem, and almost Randy to name a few. Money actually isn’t the only consideration for the fighters. It may cost the UFC down the road. The fighters have their interests, the promotions have theirs, and the fans have theirs.

Fedor can quit NOW and still be considered the greatest of all time….PERIOD.

It’s not all about you getting your dream matchups. These are people with livelihoods at stake. Sorry if you don’t get YOUR way.

It’s going to be very hard to knock off the UFC for many, many reasons. As long as the UFC keeps the top talent and maintains the TUF series on TV, they will be able to maintain the high level status they have earned. Again, they now groom fighters on a TV show, get them popular BEFORE they arrive in the UFC, and expand their already deep talent pool at the same time. No other org can do this, period. When an injury happens on a fight card, they have deep talent to choose from. Strikeforce doesn’t, witnessed by this last patchwork of an event. Yes, Fedor is getting paid and taking care of his family, but that is not the arguemtn here, it’s whether his move improves his wallet or his legacy.

he would have made more with the ufc, do you really think he turned down the ufc’s offer to make more money with strike force? i don’t know why he choose to go there but i know it was not for money.

If he would of won in the UFC he would of made more money but the key word as Finkledink puts it the “GUARANTEED MONEY” wich is easily assumed if he lost would of been less than the guarantee Strikeforce offered with the co promotion coming into play.

wrong beaver he would have gotten more in the ufc either way.

When did Strikeforce say they were trying to compete with the UFC? I’ve never heard them say that.

I think Beav is right when you know how bad the UFC and it’s fan’s wanted a fighter, and I think it was clear to the world how bad they wanted him by Strikeforce signing him competed over the UFC for the fighter is the day they started competing with the UFC?

The UFC has got as big as it is because of the fan’s and the day Strikeforce grabbed a fighter everyone of us who wanted to see him in the UFC because we all know the UFC would of put him to the test to prove his worth but Strikfarce stole that from us I to like watching even fights but I’m not spending one cent when Fedor the coward fights as far as I’m concerned he could care less about what the fan’s want so F him.

Beavers last post translated-“WHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! I didn’t get exactly what I wanted!!!!! WHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!”

Dicemans last post proves he need’s to go back to school the summer holiday’s have proven why some need summer school like really you can’t debate so you turn to insults. I realize you probaly have Fedor posters pated on your bedroom walls and now that you can’t intelligentally defend your idol but that’s no excuse for childish antics….. just brutal.

congrats!

let me help you figure this one out mac, ufc 100 already sold some crazy number of ppv at $40-$50 a pop, i think it was 1.5 million and the live gate was huge. then they aired selected fights free and beat all other major sports that night. strikrforce got a small % of people who already had subsciptions to showtime to tune in live for their event.

ufc 100 1.5 million ppv buys + 2 million spike viewers

strikeforce – av. 600,000 with a peak for 5 minutes of 800,000+

uhmmmmmm UFC did better mac, waaaaaaaay better

A replay of fights we all knew the outcome too. Hope that answers your question.

Funny, if Strikeforce or Elite XC was the king instead of the UFC, you’d be saying the same old thing. You’re the same guys who jump up and down and cry sellout when your favorite underground band gets signed by a major label. Same music, just a wider audience listening.

what do you mean?i don’t care witch on is #1 i watch them all. dream strike force ufc even small local shows are great. i like the ufc and there product i just don’t buy everything that dana tries selling.

Bull the only negative that comes out of your mouth is towarsd the UFC who by the way was built on us fans and Dana and the UFC gave us everything we wanted at the very least he tried so when insult the UFC you insult us shogun.

stop crying, oh because i like the ufc i have to agree with everything they do? i am not always happy about there decision and i don’t buy into everything dana says like its the law like you do. i am sorry your so naive i just know better.ufc is still great even if i have some complaints.

I’m talking about how this sit always seems to go the pro-UFC direction with their columns….always.

The same numbers were put on othee web sites deal with it.