Poke-gate: Florian camp accuses BJ Penn of fighting dirty

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Quoteworthy:
"There are a lot of things that happened during the [UFC 101] fight that you may or you may not have seen. Kenny got poked in the eye, which BJ is notorious for. He did it against Matt Hughes twice in one fight and once in their first fight. He did it against Georges St. Pierre in both fights. He was hitting behind the head all of the time. Kenny won't say this, but I certainly will."
Keith Florian, brother of former UFC lightweight number one contender Kenny Florian, discusses some of the alleged foul play from current 155-pound champ BJ Penn during his UFC 101 title defense against "KenFlo." Kenny was submitted via rear naked choke in the fourth round but never really got into a groove in his second title fight since joining the UFC ranks in 2005. Was it the layoff that disrupted his riddum? Or did BJ have a hand (or finger) in making sure he "lost sight" of his title aspirations?
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You have no idea how I sit here and pray for another incident that I can attach a “gate” to. Seeing this was like Christmas morning for me.
by Jesse Holland on Aug 18, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
lol, get over it, this holds no water. hey Keith, try to teach Kenny how to take someone down… better yet, ask BJ, he seemed to do it with force on the first try! BJ could have ended that fight at any time. Kenny humped BJ against the cage and that was it. Only positive out of this, BJ isn’t the only baby crying after a beat down now!
by kevin on Aug 18, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
first kenny wanted bj’s belt now he wants his title for biggest cry baby.
by roy on Aug 18, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
In real news:
There is a good chance that Nick Diaz next fight will be against Mach Sakurai in October, Japan’s dream event!
Also this is what Ceaser gracie had to say about the Marijuana gate:
“He does need (marijuana)," said Gracie. "He has ADHD and he’s had a prescription for Ritalin since he was a kid. He doesn’t want to take that. That’s worse than pot.
im not defending nick…Im just passing along this quote so dont jump down my throat, im in no mood!
by john G on Aug 18, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I have been strongly defending strikeforce lately, and I have been very pleased with what they have done in this past month….but now I am pissed!
Strikeforce has signed both Mayhem and Jacre, Jacre beat ayhem twice already, but Mayhem is the one in talkls to fight Jake sheilds for the middleweight title, basically because Coker thinks Mayhem is an "interesting charecter!
FOCK THAT! Jacre vs. Sheilds needs to happen 1st!
by john G on Aug 18, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
BJ! BJ! BJ! BJ! BJ!
Stupidgate!
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 18, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
a more interesting quote from Florian’s brother. he gave BJ a fight?
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…(Next for Kenny) “I’m thinking more like a Frankie Edgar, Tyson Griffin, Gray Maynard or Clay Guida or someone along those lines…a Diego Sanchez…whoever is going to be in the top 5 that’s going to get us back in title contention. I don’t know who else is going to give BJ the run that Kenny did.”
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also, Nick Diaz/mach sakuri being talked about at dream in oct.
by kevin on Aug 18, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re seriously going to count that 2nd fight as a win for Jacare… talk about biased..
by O damn he got caught on Aug 18, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
There is a good chance that Nick Diaz’s next fight is in DREAM against Mach Sakurai in October! This fight needs to happen because its a great match up that I have wanted to see for a while now. THere is NOTHING keeping this fight from materializing, so it needs to happen ASAP!
by john G on Aug 18, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Keith is a world class doucher…there’s a reason Kenny won’t say anything…he takes his lumps when he loses. People get poked in the eye in fights…it happens. I don’t think BJ purposely goes for the eyes…although it wouldn’t suprise me. It wasn’t obvious during the fight so it couldn’t have been very significant. It’s not like it was the reason why Kenny lost that fight. Kenny came in with a solid game plan despite what others may say…but it just didn’t have the effect that he was going for and he paid the price for not haveing a good back up plan.
The only excuse Kenny stated himself was that the long layoff was too much for him. He was basically guaranted a title shot after he beat Huerta and then took a fight with Joe to keep from getting too much ring rust. That’s a full year waiting to get a title shot…that’s pathetic. I can see how having too much prep time can hurt a fighter…you start to overthink and overtrain for the fight.
by Buster Bluth on Aug 18, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Kenny tell Keith to shut the F**K UP!!!… I’m a Florian Fan… but Keith, shut the F**K UP!!!
by THORAZINE on Aug 18, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they will try to build jacare up a little bit. The casual fan of MMA does not know the alligator, but the casual fan does know Mayhem Miller from Bully Beatdowns.
Oh, and Keith Florini? Eat a fat d*ck already. I really can’t stand him. After the Kenny/Lauzon fight, Joe and Keith were in the same elevator and Keith was running his mouth to Lauzon about the fight.
Too bad for him that he sounds like squealing butch dyke when he corners fighters.
by ViolentMike on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
whycan’twejustwatchMMAanymoregate
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Odamn: I like Mayhem, but when you intentionally kick a downed opponent in the face…and the fight is stopped, IMO you should lose.
If that was the 1st time they fought, I wuld be willing to call i t a no contest, but Jacre already beat him….and Mayhem ruined a great fight. I dont c are what anyone says….you dont kick a downed opponent in the head by accident.
Kicking downed opponents in the face was wandy’s primary weapon for years in PRIDE, if he can refrain from kicking people in the face…then there is no excuse for Mayhem who has fought his enter career without kicks to a downed opponent being legal!
by john G on Aug 18, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I WANT BJ’S BELT!
ouch, that hurt.
TIME TO KILL THE MASTER!
please don’t hurt me BJ.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 18, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
At best it’s a DQ or an NC, but I can’t give someone the “W” just for getting kicked in the face…
by O damn he got caught on Aug 18, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
OD, don’t forget that of course JohnGMMA.com knew that kicking a downed opponent was illegal in the Dream org.
by Alpha Male on Aug 18, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that Keith is trying to displace blame here… BJ said right after the fight that it was Keith’s fault that Kenny wasn’t landing anything because he kept yelling exactly what Kenny was supposed to do. It was Keith’s fault for not disguising himself a little more. Or at least telling Kenny to fight his own fight..
by StuckinMod(FormerlyFedorfightscans,Sp00ner1234) on Aug 18, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
no, a W for getting kicked in the face is laughable, it’s a DQ for things like that!
only thing fights like that tells me is that Mayhem would have smashed him if it was a real streetfight..
by RoBerto on Aug 18, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
What is it with sore losers today? Keith should have helped Kenny come up with a gameplan that suited him instead of copying off what GSP did, Florian is a good fighter but takedowns aren’t his strong point so that strategy was not going to work for him. The fact that he gave away the gameplan by yelling at the top of his voice so BJ could hear him, when both Florians apparently speak Spanish, is laughable and now this comes across as being a sore loser. BJ outclassed Kenny simple as, whining about non-existent dirty tactics won’t help Kenny improve and will just alienate the fans further.
I agree with John, shocking decision by SF to snub Jacare for that idiot Mayhem. I don’t find the guy funny at all and to me he is just a loudmouth who makes up for his lack of skills by acting like a tool. Jacare-Shields would have been a classic grappling fight, Shields-Mayhem is an easy submission win for Jake. I also agree that he should have been DQ’d in that fight, purposely breaking the rules and causing the fight to be stopped should be an instant DQ.
Diaz-Mach is a sick fight and would be a great chance for Nick to redeem himself after this latest fiasco. This is the sort of fight that I have been hoping to see since the SF-Dream partnership was announced. If it happens, it’ll be a FOTY candidate.
by David W-S on Aug 18, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenny and his Steve O looking brother are fags (not like homo fags, don’t want to insult those guys buy associating them with the Florian’s). First Huerta greased, now BJ was fighting ditry, both accusations for which there are foundation for or proof.
These accusations are just as lame as BJ’s Greasegate deal he was bitching about.
Florians, please go to Strikeforce or Dream – maybe you can get a belt there. Or just go fuck yourselves.
by Felix by day, El Mexicutioner by night on Aug 18, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa whoa whoa… There was good reason to believe that GSP greased when they rubbed grease on him between rounds.. I am not starting a new argument but it did happen. It was video taped and people ringside were freaking about it. Including chuck
by Sp00ner1234 on Aug 18, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And based on what I saw on the video it was a lame accusation.
by DSmith on Aug 18, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets get this straight though…this is Keith Florian making these statements…not Kenny. Kenny said on a radio program today that he did get poked but he said that happens in fights and said he didn’t think it was intentional and it wasn’t the reason he lost. He said he still has vision problems and is going to a doctor to make sure that he didn’t sustain any serious damage. He then went on to give props to BJ for executing a great gameplan and said that it was just BJ’s night and he deserved the win. He stated that he was off with his timing and just couldn’t execute his game plan like he wanted.
I think Keith is trying to live vicariously through Kenny too much.
The only way to settle this is to ask Kenny’s mom what she thinks about this situation.
by Buster Bluth on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Cant we get through a single FOCKING mma event with out some kind of BS controversy the week that follows the event?
Keith, Shut your Bitch ass up! I dont know who screams more like a bitch, Keith or Shads wife! Personally I would like to strangle both!
by john G on Aug 18, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
He sounds like Dwight Howard’s Stan Van Gundy impersonations.
by ViolentMike on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
just don’t hit her John, strangling is allowed!
by kevin on Aug 18, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah, so thats how you keep the wife in line without leaving bruises; I see, I see.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 18, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I never hit a bitch…but I’ll shake the shit out of one.
by Buster Bluth on Aug 18, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
oh it leaves bruises, she just likes scarves… because I tell her she likes them. lol
by kevin on Aug 18, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought you should shake the crap outta women, not strangle.
by OJR on Aug 18, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that pushing the crap “in” of a women was the way to go?
by Alpha Male on Aug 18, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, Buster did a much better job. I focked that one up!
by OJR on Aug 18, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO!! The MMAManiac regulars at their best!! lol PDubs
by McArthur on Aug 18, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yea i hope no ones gives this any attention. it’s a FIGHT! if you get out of there without getting poked in the eye once or hit in the back of the head (very arguable) then you probably didnt do enough to win.
its a fight. theres a lot of things that can happen. you can always be careful, but its a fight. each person is worried about winning or landing shots, not weather or not there glove barely grazed the back of the other dudes head. they don’t have time to think about that.
by masters is ON it on Aug 18, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
SO GLAD that BJ knows how it feels to use PETTY excuses after losing a fight. One thing different, Kieth did this WITHOUT his brother’s go ahead, AND did’nt use MOMMY.
BJ deserves this. The whiny little whiner. HE wondred why he got booed(he says in his post fight presser)
by fightfan on Aug 18, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Greasegate, Elbowgate, Pokegate…
btw, what ever happened to Elbowgate? I thought it may have been nothing, but I was at a friends place that night, and other people noticed his elbow too.
by Stryker on Aug 18, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Complaining about bs after a win or loss is a bitch move and sending your brother to do it for you is a bitch move. Get it together Kenny. You weren’t good enough to get the belt twice. It sucks for you but it is what it is.
by DSmith on Aug 18, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
At least now BJ gets a taste of his own medicine… now he might get how annoying a sore loser is who complains about minutia to justify a loss.
by JS on Aug 18, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
perfectly said…..Now maybe BJ knows about whining for months after months after getting his ass kicked…And using his mommy to help
by fightfan on Aug 18, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Jesse,
At least in boxing, the athletes take their beatings like men!
What is it with the growing trend of whiny b!tches in MMA?
I blame Brock Lesnar…
by OJR on Aug 18, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
What’s Lesnar have to do with it? He got screwed out of one fight and quickly made amends for it.
by PW on Aug 18, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
You’d blame Brock Lesnar for global warming OJR lol
P-Dub please answer my question on the Don Frye thread.
by attakdog on Aug 18, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
He started the whole whiny excuse business, blaming the ref for getting caught in a sub from a legit jits BB.
He did make amends, BIG TIME, in fact he swatted Mir like a bug but he did get the whole whiny b!tch act rolling…
by OJR on Aug 18, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
K-Dog,
I also blame Brock for the current US economy and for Farve not staying retired.
by OJR on Aug 18, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol OJR. Don’t forget he also created AIDS and started the war in Iraq.
by attakdog on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Farve + Vikings = Superbowl
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 18, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Its favre. Not farve. Its just pronounced that way. And I knew this was why Kenny lost. Good job Keith!!! Go Kenny! Rematch ha ha ha. :D
by Daniel worby on Aug 18, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
K-dog, the response has been written and may be in moderation for reasons unknown, since I had no reason to use any profanity in it.
by PW on Aug 18, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock Lesnar is also responsible for Nick Diaz not showing up for his drug test and for Barnett testing +.
by StuckinMod(FormerlyFedorfightscans,Sp00ner1234) on Aug 18, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Farve + Vikings = 1-4 down the stretch with a 3-11 TD-Int ratio.
by PW on Aug 18, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you translate that P-Dub for us English.
by attakdog on Aug 18, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock + Vikings = Superbowl, world domination and 100 years of tyranny
by OJR on Aug 18, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Farve, if he actually signs with the Vikings, will go into his usual late-season collapse because he’s old and can’t withstand the rigors of a full NFL season anymore. He will start throwing crazy passes all over the field, which announcers will blindly defend with overused Farve-exclusive platitudes like “he’s just trying to make a play” or “he looks like a little kid out there.” They will finish the season 1-4 with Farve throwing three touchdown passes and 11 interceptions.
by PW on Aug 18, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I was with you the whole way there dubs.. Favre needs to go to the UFL or something… If he wants to play that is. If you needed a QB you should got Vick like my Eagles did!! WOOT WOOT
by Sp00ner1234 on Aug 18, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
No Jim Johnson, no Dawkins, no whoever that white linebacker was. Your Beagles, I mean Eagles, are going to suuuuuck.
by PW on Aug 18, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI-
Farve is w/ the Vikings. Confirmed on ESPN.
by OJR on Aug 18, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry OJR, but BJ invented the Whiney Bitch Fighter title and defends it successfully every day of his life…sometimes with the help of his mom. Florian just wanted a shot at that title and failed at that one too.
by Gurthee on Aug 18, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Gurthee, but Brock invented polio and is currently responsible for the systematic destruction of the ozone layer.
by OJR on Aug 18, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It was also Brock who ate the three bears porridge, not Goldielocks and Brock who created Eddie Murphy films.
by attakdog on Aug 18, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock also had his hand in creating reality TV and is the one responsible for getting Paula Abdul booted out of American Idol.
by OJR on Aug 18, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Greasegate, Elbowgate, Pokegate…
What ever happened with Elbowgate? I thought it may have been nothing, but some people I was with noticed it at fight-time. It was pretty obvious. Just wondering if anyone’s questioned GSP on it.
by Stryker on Aug 18, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Ya Kenny won’t say anything but Im sure he cried about it to his brother to make sure this came out to the media and make it seem like he didn’t say anything himself, If that is the case than thats even worse than what BJ crying about it becouse at least he said it himself he didnt need his brother to cry about it for him becouse I highly doubt that he would have known kenny got pocked in the eye unless kenny cried about it
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Aug 18, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever happened to giving someone credit when they kicked your @$$! So sick of all the excuses and accusations.
by LJ on Aug 18, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
or when they kicked your brothers @$$ for that matter.
by LJ on Aug 18, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Kenny shut your brother up, he’s beginning to sound worse than BJ. At least Kenny gets his brother to fight his battles I suppose and not his mother ala BJ.
by attakdog on Aug 18, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Kenny needs a new wrestling coach. I believe he works with his brother on his wrestling and BJJ. That’s not going to cut it my friend. Also, I seem to remember very vividly several punches and elbows to the back of the head of Joe Lauzon in their fight. Anybody else remember that?
by Adam T. on Aug 18, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
“Kenny won’t say this, but I certainly will” Wow! Maybe Keith needs to get in the cage and fight. He tries to sound pretty tough. Pretty easy when you don’t have to fight.
by Adam T. on Aug 18, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah AT, I don’t know who Kenny wrestles with, but I thought his wrestling defense was pretty tight since the Sherk fight until I saw BJ get a takedown on his 1st Takedown attempt… Florian should have tried to get to his feet using wrestling skills rather than roll around with BJ and relying on his Jits.
by THORAZINE on Aug 18, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Kenny’s takedowns looked like The Waterboy’s tackles before he got upset.
by PW on Aug 18, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that. JLau would have won that fight if not for KenFlo’s “illegal” elbows. Where’s Mazzagatti when you need him?
by Gurthee on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
kenny wont say but another bitch in his camp will …..get over it bj won nuff said
by michael on Aug 18, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
Excuses Excuses. Kenny was never in the fight. All he did was hold onto BJ. Kenny knew he was outskilled early on. Awesome choke.
by Stryker on Aug 18, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
Lmao
All the attention jumps from gsp bj to kenny hahahaha
by phenomenal angel on Aug 18, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
i must have watched that fight at least three tiems and did not see any cases where bj intentionally poked kenny or hit the back of the head. if he did then the ref should have could it. guys get poked in the face all the time its happens with those gloves. strikes to the back of the head on the ground is the most common thing. florians brother sounds like a littel b*tch. his bro wasnt going to win that fight and now he whining about it.
by bobby o'shea on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions
Kenny didnt cry when he basically beat Lauzon by repeatedly elbowing him in the back of the head!
So sick of the contreversy following each event!
JH, just stop reporting it! Ignore it, no one that complains ever wins an appeal anyway.
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You my friend, are the one who needs to ignore it — if you want it to go away. You should know by now that Fedor, Brock and BJ will get posts for anything and everything because they generate discussion. Don’t hate the playa, hate the game.
-JH
P.S. “I’m not a writer, I just post a lot.” Ha! Big Pun Forever!
by john G on Aug 18, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe kenny would have won this fight if he had a real trainer besides his brother. he does stand up with delagrotte and worked some with gsp in canada. but his brother is his bjj coach. i think his bro is just sad b/c kenny got tapped out. even kenny said the layoff hurt him and he needs to work on his wrestling. kenny should fire his brother and get a real coach. let him bro teach bjj to 5 year old at there gym
by bobby o'shea on Aug 18, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
You didn’t see it because you don’t have Keith’s expertly trained eye. Brother-gate!
by Jesse Holland on Aug 18, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
God damn it Jesse not another “gate” controversy. When will all of this “gate” BS die, half the people who use the term in this country don’t even know about Watergate, it’s ridiculous. Every minor controversy involving famous people is dubbed -gate these days it drives me mad. Rant over.
by David W-S on Aug 18, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Half you say? This article wasn’t meant for half of the country it was meant for the maniacs, most of which have heard of Watergate and the million of ‘GATES’ since last month. David I thought you were from the UK somewhere anyway? This is no minor controversy, BJ Penn was just accused of eye-poking and I won’t be satisfied until a complete investigation is completed. BJ had his day in court or in front of the athletic commission and I feel that Kenny should also be afforded this same right. If any body wants to feel safe engaging in hand to hand combat ever again, this needs to be nipped in the bud. The only way I see the BJ-gates coming to a full and righteous conclusion is to have two rematches. GSP vs. BJ with the stipulation that GSP will wear rash guards and a thick wool sweater, also GSP is restricted to training only as hard as BJ so as not to be to appear too well built for a clean athlete. Also BJ vs. Florian where Ken gets to wear safety glasses and get all his instructions from brother Keith in Arabic so BJ won’t know all of his plans. Maybe when these two title fights are over we won’t have to see BJ Penn’s ugly mug every time we turn on the computer.
by jay on Aug 18, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew it! Kenny was robbed! He would’ve been able to finish BJ had it not been for this eye-poke! You know why? BECAUSE DA FLOW FINISHES FIGHTS! Shame on BJ. Shame on Hawaii!
by Kenflo4ever on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions
keith is such a crybaby….kinda reminds me of bj a lil bit…..but without the eye poking.
by brainowns on Aug 18, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions
This is laughable….this is just a very weak attempt at generating some momentum for a rematch. News Flash to the Florian camp….you’re gonna need to go on another 6 fight win streak to get that shot. The problem is, Penn won’t be there. At that point, he’ll either be working his way thru the WW division to earn another crack at GSP, or he’ll be working his way back to regaining his LW title from The Nightmare!! I’m hoping for the latter!
by kg on Aug 18, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
bj should rip into keith like matt serra did to marc laimon on tuf 4, about how he aint even a real fighter. that would be funny. hopefully bj responds.
by bobby o'shea on Aug 18, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t think BJ has a leg to stand on in this matter. How is BJ Penn going to rag on people for whining? That would be like Cyborg calling out steroid users.
by jay on Aug 18, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHA, and he also choked the shit out of Kenny, and punched him in the face, and didn’t let Kenny take him down, and he hit him in the kidney with the heel of his foot, and most of all he broke Kenny’s will…. oh and finished him!
All the other things that I’m sure the Keith thought were unfair in that fight…. what a dumb ass,
I think he is just trying to hold on as Kenny’s bjj trainer, cause Kenny might be looking for a new and a real bjj trainer
by Riskreturngroup on Aug 18, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
U M*FERS GOT A FIGHT COMING UP, U BETTER PRAY 2 THE DEVIL ITS NOT KENNY FLORIAN!!!
by d*locc on Aug 18, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
Kenny Florian is the one holding the fence every fucking time someone is trying to take him down, plus elbowing Joe Lauzon in the back of the head.
BJ beat him fairly.
by xmcoe on Aug 18, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
Bj destroyed him. End of story. kenny got demoralised . he was left lost without a paddle floating S**ts creek
by Stonecold on Aug 18, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
Actually, I am going to disagree with the sentiment on this one. Poking in the eye is the bitch move. Win right or dont win at all. I’m not up for all of the excuses either, but lets be real, BJ has a proven history of doing this.
by DAMN! on Aug 18, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
Absolutely BJ has a history of eye poking. Whether it’s an issue during the fight is irrelevant. BJ’s the first to cry foul, yet he’s broken the rules with eye pokes to GSP, Hughes, and now Florian. Makes no difference if it didn’t influence the outcome of the fight, eye poking contravenes the rules. The controversy looks good on BJ and I hope the Florian camp keeps harping on it.
by Digby on Aug 18, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
regardless of whether or not any illegal strikes occurred, nothing was made of it during the fight by either fighter or even the ref, and issuing statements like this a week after the fact does no good. Really poor form from the Florian camp. Wicked pissah.
by just some dong on Aug 18, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Taking an eyepoke is just as stupid as taking a punch to the face. Every strike should be countered, what idiot stands there and lets someone jam their finger in their eye. I just don’t get it.
by Michael on Aug 18, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions
Counter with what? Groin kick, hair pull or windmill slaps?
by jay on Aug 18, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
All this after the fact hmmm just like BJ and the grease I didn’t see anyone complaining during the fight but of coarse after only good thing is BJ is getting taste of his own medicine.
by Puck Head on Aug 18, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally aggree. A strike to the face is a strike to the face… poke or otherwise. If you don’t defend against it then you pay for it.
by Kdog on Aug 18, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
sour grapes, it would make my year though if they found some sort of banned substances in penns pee pee.
by nathan on Aug 18, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
well, it is his bro
so i would sorda expect this
by MMA Wallpapers SF on Aug 18, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Rich Franklin got poked in the eye by Dan Henderson. Randy Couture got poked in the eye by Vitor Belfort.
Those are real eye-pokes, the kind where the fight stops and everyone knows what happened. And medical attention is required either immediately or right after the fight.
Then there’s the kind that happened in BJ/GSP 1, where everyone noticed it because of GSP’s reaction, but the fight continued as normal. Those are legit enough to discuss.
Then there’s the kind where you don’t even know they happened until after the fight. Kenny’s eyes were clear the whole fight right up until he got taken down. Making an excuse after a loss because of one of these “pokes” is lame.
Florian needs to improve more, it’s a simple as that. He’s come a long way and he made it to the 4th round against the best LW in the world. Now, if he’s gonna be competitive, he needs to improve his wrestling and his striking.
He still hasn’t beaten anyone in the top 6 at LW.
1. BJ Penn
2. Frankie Edgar
3. Diego Sanchez
4. Sean Sherk
5. Gray Maynard
6. Tyson Griffin
by revjames13 on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
Nice post RJ. I got my top 10 lightweight ufc fighters 1)Bj 2)Diego 3)Frankie Edgar 4)S Sherk 5)Florian 6)G Maynard 7)T Griffing 8)C Guida 9)S Fisher 10)R Huerta.
by Kdog on Aug 18, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is good enough, just not strong enough. Maybe in the 145 pound cat.?
by neeko on Aug 18, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
ohhh boo hoo! you lost just man up and accept it!
by big_evil on Aug 18, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe he thinks us GSP fans are gonna get on the “gate” bandwagon… come on. Let it go..I remember back in the day when a fighter would take responsability for his loss & move on. This is worse than the Young & the Restless. yawn
by neeko on Aug 18, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
BJ is indeed famous for his "Hawaiian" punchs but Kenny shouldn’t go there. You don’t want to look like a sore loser like BJ "little bitch" Penn.
by 2TimePennConqueror on Aug 18, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions
So what, should we say vaseline was invented in Canada. Dork!!!
universal rule: if you talk n can’t walk, u gonna look stupid.
by WayofTheWarrior on Aug 18, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry I aint into generalizing one persons faluts on a whole race/community. That just annoys me… n no I aint hawain. ppl need to grow up
by WayofTheWarrior on Aug 18, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The "hawaiian" punch expression was put out there by Randy Couture when he was the commentator during the Matt Hughes 2 fight. I didn`t think it was offensive to Hawaiian people in general. Maybe you need to cool it and back the f*ck up.
by 2TimePennConqueror on Aug 18, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t usually jump on the “post loss excuse” bandwagon, and I do love Baby Jay… But I have seen him poke quite a few fighters in the eye in the past… Could be his awkward boxing style, but either way he needs to stop that shit.
by Jake on Aug 18, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
Shut up keith. You don’t know shit… shut the fuck up… your camp lost just move on… BJ fighting dirty.. hahaha that’s a funny one…
by Blaine on Aug 18, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions
Let me get this straight:
Penn poked Georges St pierre in the eye in their first fight and second fight, he did it on multiple occasions to Matt Hughes and now he does the same thing to Florian; Penn must be from the chicken liddell school of thumbing and gouging. Penn is a disgrace as a human being; the people who raised him failed on an epic level because they brought up a gutless shit who makes slanderous allegations against fellow fighters; who drinks the blood of his opponents after fights; who whines like a bitch after he loses fair and square; and who conducts himself like a complete a-hole in public.
Penn is a 12 year old trapped in the pudgy body of a short, round, bald 30 year old man’s frame. Knowing hawaiians as I do – they’re either raping tourists or selling ice (or using it) – I don’t expect them to get off the “blow job” band wagon, but when are the rest of us going to see the light?
I rarely curse like this on any subject, but it blows me away how anyone can support this unprincipled asshole.
by bk on Aug 19, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
Damn…someone’s drinking some haterade. Too funny. Bk must be Florian’s brother.
by Kdog on Aug 19, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions

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