Scott Coker: Nick Diaz vs Jay Hieron Strikeforce title fight 'before the end of the year'

by Jesse Holland on Aug 16, 2009 12:51 PM EDT Comment 77 comments

"We had a conversation with Cesar Gracie about the Nick Diaz situation, so I feel very comfortable Nick will be back shortly. I think he's going to meet with the athletic commission, get that all worked out, and hopefully we'll see Nick back here before the end of the year. Jay Hieron came here to fight Nick Diaz, so we will put that fight together."

Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker hasn't let the drug testing fiasco deter him for moving forward with a championship bout between Nick Diaz and Jay Hieron, indicating during last night's "Carano vs. Cyborg" post-fight press conference that he will green light the welterweight title fight just as soon as Diaz obtains his license to fight from the California State Athletic Commission (CSAC). Diaz failed to report for his mandatory pre-fight drug test the week before the Aug. 15 event and was not cleared to compete; however, his camp is currently working with the CSAC to get the controversial star a license in time to fight by year's end. Fortunately Jay Hieron held up his end of the bargain by defeating Diaz' replacement, Jesse "JT Money" Taylor at Saturday's Showtime event.

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anyone actually watch the Heiron/jt money fight yet? Can anyone tell me if it was worth watching or was it a snoozefest like all Coco the monkey fights!

by john G on Aug 16, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I still haven’t seen any of that card. Hopin to catch it on the internet somewhere as I usually do with non-UFC cards. Can’t get Strikeforce in Ireland
Hieron deserves the shot since he didn’t loose to JT. Disel will probably have another freak out now
Sucks to be him right now

by IrishKev on Aug 16, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow i’m glad to hear strikeforce got jt to fill in for diaz i mean they couldn’t find a beeter fighter than JT money.. R-U serious!! thats why strikeforce is next to tank
heiron was beat bad by GSP and kicked out of the ufc and now he might be a champ.. i hope diaz breaks his arm!

by Mikeybear on Aug 16, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Must be nice to be nick diaz, you know you’ll fail a drug test so you just skip it and they reschedule your fight for later.

by Rawrr on Aug 16, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s where hard work, determination, and bong loads lead you to. though.

by Crackbaby on Aug 16, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice to see that Coker lets his fighters run as wild as they want. There was nothing to fn work out with the commission. He gets tested like everyone else, CSAC is finally makin decent progress – they better not go back to being the scumbag bottom feeders they use to be.

by NameNotRequired on Aug 16, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

personally i think winning a belt in strikeforce is like winning gold in the special olympics.

by Egads on Aug 16, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha~!

Agreed. :)

by Natas on Aug 16, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

namenotrequired, didn’t Dana not do anything to Rampage after a highspeed pursuit and killing an unborn child? I think that is alot worse than smokin some weed.

by Bill Maher on Aug 16, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

who’s talking about Dana here, nobody is making a comparison. SF is allowed to do stupid shit and not be called on it because Dana didn’t fire page after he went crazy? This is about the sport, it’s bad for it if their fighters are allowed to do shit like this, if you think your going to fail a test just have them push your fight back? Don’t know how you can defend this type of shit.

by Rawrr on Aug 16, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

because it is just pot. the shit should be legal anyways.

by Bill Maher on Aug 16, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coker is very leniant on guys when they act a fool and even in interviews seems hesitant about taking actions. Dana puts the stamp down when guys aren’t acting right and worse when they f up big fights. It’s not about smokin weed, it’s about following the rules and not making shady deals with head commissioners to bypass laws put for by the government.

by NameNotRequired on Aug 16, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Worst excuse ever, “It should be legal anyway”

There’s lots of things that SOME people think SHOULD be legal.

I suppose you already have you NAMBLA membership as well?

by Jas on Aug 16, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus even if it’s legal, there are legal substances that you can’t have in your system as well before a fight. And it’s a slippery slope he’s on letting nick do this assuming it is “just pot.” Coker doesn’t know what is in nick’s system or anybody else he gives this special treatment to in the future.

by Rawrr on Aug 16, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Name you said this isn’t about Dana, then you brought Dana up. Dana did nothing to Rampage for a high speed pursuit. So strict.

And nice ad populum Jas. I don’t care what the majority of people think and it has nothing to do with what is right or wrong. Also, that is a huge straw man argument comparing smoking put to child molesting. And if you mean North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes then yes, I do.

by Bill Maher on Aug 16, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I said it wasn’t about Dana actually. And Coker doesn’t know what’s in nick’s system, nobody does but nick. I’m not saying nick is using anything but weed, but what about the next guy that gets this special treatment. If fighters are able to do this it really undermines the commision with the help of the promotion, which just isn’t right.

by Rawrr on Aug 16, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And also, since you’ve brought Dana into it, he is strict about his fighters when it comes to MMA. What Rampage did had nothing to do with MMA, Dana let the courts handle it although I wouldn’t have complained if he had suspended or can’d him.

by Rawrr on Aug 16, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t say it was about dana but i agree with everything Rawrr is saying here.

by NameNotRequired on Aug 17, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coker has NO CONTROL over any of his few fighters…..is a pushover at best

They want to hold title without defending it for a couple years and DOING more important things like movies or fighting for OTHER fight promotions???

They can whatever they PLEASE, including purposely miss drug testing. So what?? Scott invites him back for title shot whenever Diaz can pass a test.

Fighters can screw over him, after spending lots of money advertising and promoting a fight, and is no big deal

Sign a fighter, and agree to ALL ridiculis co-promotion and WHATEVER else M-1 wants

Joke of a promotion

by fightfan on Aug 16, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

At least you can put an interm belt up while your champs jerk off, but letting a guy skip a drug test because he knows he will fail and doesn’t want the suspension?

I seriously think the CSAC should refuse his to clear him to fight until he agrees to random testing. Pot or Fights, his choice. For the legalize pot movement here, there’s legal substances you can’t have in you to fight too, so it’s all fair.

He wouldn’t be allowed to fight on methadone either.

by Jas on Aug 16, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Almost nothing worse than promotion haters. Almost as bad as kids that hate all video games not on their game console of choice.

by Bill Maher on Aug 16, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually like strikeforce, am indifferent to Fedor, but wow I have a hate for lamer pot heads who make a mockery of the law.

Oh, I mean Diaz, not the posters here.

;)

by Jas on Aug 16, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn’t talking about you Jas.

by Bill Maher on Aug 16, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Bill, loved you in Religulous

by Jas on Aug 17, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

PS:
PS3 pwnzers the 360.

by Jas on Aug 17, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

X-Box live pisses on the crap Playstation has

by lokie on Aug 17, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s because the closest the Xbox can get to the PS3 is it’s rear….. Reach around box from a take it from behind company

by Jas on Aug 17, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wrong!!!! The xbox 360 is still the muber one selling console on the market Look it up. read up on it and more gamers like the game play of the 360 and as I said before it out sells everything

by lokie on Aug 17, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually PS2 is outselling all systems. Look it up, read up on it.

by BK on Aug 17, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

worst fight in the history of jt$

by randy murders (driving the jt$ war wagon) on Aug 16, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate Diaz but he takes this rather easily, imo.

Also********

went to one of the local O.C. Fight events last night (had a friend fighting) and Tito and Anderson Silva were there! Tito Jumped in the cage and confirmed he’d be FIGHTING MARK COLEMAN Nov. 21st.

and the word going around, whether it be true or NOT, is that Forrest cut from 245 for his fight with Ando!

by SoCalStunNa on Aug 16, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

alright, Forrest looked to be in horrible physical shape.. He looked small! he should concentrate more on technique and actually learning how to punch and block a punch..

by RoBerto on Aug 16, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think from the performance the weight cut really killed JT Money. I was rooting for him but he had nothing for Hieron, a complete lack of energy in the entire fight from Taylor. If anything I was disappointed in Hieron though (Taylor did take the fight on extremely short notice). He had top position for a majority of the fight when it was on the ground and way more energy standing up and he didn’t come remotely close to finishing the fight. It was going to be an obvious UD and I guess if he was being conservative to ensure the win and eventual title fight it was a smart decision but not one that will generate fans.

by theTRON on Aug 16, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah im jt$‘s biggest fan and can assure you he will be back, and 170 is not his right weightclass, him needing an extra 2 hours to cut the 2 lbs to make weight was a bad sign, and taking the fight on a weeks notice was another bad sign.. he needs to stick to 185 where he isn’t so damn drained

by randy murders on Aug 16, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Men’s 100m final in 2 hrs, don’t miss it! Usain “lightning” Bolt ftw!

by RoBerto on Aug 16, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

damn, its scheduled at the same time as the lawn bowling championship, which one should i watch?

by Egads on Aug 16, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

bowling? hahaha, the athletics ofc.. it starts in 15 min

by RoBerto on Aug 16, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Usain Bolt is the man, he’s going to set records that won’t be broken in my lifetime, the guy is scary fast.

by David W-S on Aug 16, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

9.58 is not even closely humanly possible

by shamo84 on Aug 16, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, that was sick! Tyson ran fast too 9.71 is a great time.. feel sorry for the ppl that missed it

by RoBerto on Aug 16, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the crazy thing is that there is no technology involved like in swimming where they got this new costumes.

so it is him who is the best ever.

by shamo84 on Aug 17, 2009 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mike Phelps still uses the “old Speedo” so there goes that therory1 LOL

by lokie on Aug 17, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Diaz is one ugly motherfucker.

by PooHoleLover on Aug 16, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i agree, but fighters arn’t exactly good looking..

by guyverbob on Aug 16, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wrong, gsp is very pretty

by Egads on Aug 16, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what about Matt “Handsome” Wiman LOL ;)

by SoCalStunNa on Aug 17, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

god diaz is so immature..

by guyverbob on Aug 16, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Anyone know when UFC is going back to Vegas. Trying to plan a trip

by DF on Aug 16, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well,schedule goes up to oct 24th bringin it to california,and I’m pretty sure its gonna be in England in november,so I would hazard a guess of december for your answer.big end of year event,would be a sweet trip!

by bons on Aug 16, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

year end event in december sounds like a good idea, brock should be on that card as well as probably hendo vs anderson rematch

by randy murders (driving the jt$ war wagon) on Aug 16, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hieron looks like Rio Ferdinand in that pic lol

by bons on Aug 16, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jesus it is Rio, no wonder he played so poorly against Holland.

by David W-S on Aug 16, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Newcastle played a great game yesterday =)

by RoBerto on Aug 16, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pity it was in the fizzy pop league RoB.

by attakdog on Aug 17, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m happy to see all the minor league fighters collecting a good reputation in the new league they call STRIKEFORCE. Strike 1- Carno Lost
Strike 2 – Diaz jumps ship
Strik 3 – Fedor Loses

Amen

by Stagefright on Aug 16, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know how fighters messing up is supposed to sink an org. Daiz has fought 2ce, Gina 1ce, and Fedor 0 times so there is no way an almost 4 year old promotion that is profitable could get screwed up by it.

by Bill Maher on Aug 16, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As a Diaz Bros fan I felt let down by Nick when he didn’t show up to his drug test, so I’m hoping that he’s learnt from this fiasco and won’t blow this second chance. He has the potential to be a world beater at 170 and I hope that he doesn’t ruin this for himself.

by David W-S on Aug 16, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How many more chances should he get?

This is 2 counting the overturned win over Gomi.

I think he may be done, if Cokehead………um, Coker doesn’t have the balls to keep him in line perhaps the CSAC will.

by Jas on Aug 16, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he talked to them and let them know he was going to be late.. it isn’t like he flatout missed it because he was getting high he had a reasonable excuse to be late i’m sure of it.. they just wouldnt let nick be late

by randy murders (driving the jt$ war wagon) on Aug 16, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He missed 2…. And then his camp released a statement that he was gonna fail the test so opted not to go (or that’s how I read it).

Because he thought he had a gentleman’s agreement he would be given enough warning to cheat the test by the commissioner.

They had the gall to complain that the commission stopped allowing them to cheat!

by Jas on Aug 16, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can you imagine the idiot who showed up drunk for an event saying alcohol is legal and he should be allowed to fight.

“It was only beers, I mean it wasn’t like it was rum or anything.”

Imagine.

Only stoners would think that sort of thing is acceptable

by Jas on Aug 16, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lol, so true Jas, Diaz is a f@cking dick and coker’s no better for letting him go unpunished.

by attakdog on Aug 17, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Read Coker’s statement about why Hieron signed with strikeforce. Coker is making right for Hieron who chose to fight Diaz for the title in strikeforce instead of going to the UFC. Look it up Coker has said it. He isnt giving nick a pass, he is making something right to a guy he made a deal with. WTF is wrong with that?

by lokie on Aug 17, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay I know he cant fight with pot in his system but stop acting like its a PHD. Im not saying he should of been allowed to fight, but stop fucking using the word CHEAT

by lokie on Aug 17, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alright, I’m not a huge strikeforce fan, and I missed the Carano/Cyborg card, so please excuse me for not being informed, but could someone explain to me what happened to Jake Shields? I thought he was strikeforce welter weight champion, and I havent heard or read anything about him. Why are they talking about a Diaz title fight? What did I miss? Did Shields get stripped of the belt or something?

by Jeff on Aug 16, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

shields had only been the elite xc welterweight champion, he fought 1 time for strikeforce against lawler at 182lb catchweight

by randy murders (driving the jt$ war wagon) on Aug 16, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Comment by Bill Maher
2009-08-16 20:59:57
“because it is just pot. the shit should be legal anyways.”
that’s words of a true pothead right there!! There is a reason it is not legal idiot!!! But you being the big smoker you are , will say something like ohhhh i do everything better when i’m high bla bla bla , all you potheads have the same reasoning , and it’s all stupid !! Pot should stay illegal that’s all we need a bunch of scumbags walking around high not to mention the kids that would get caught up in it

by TheDragon on Aug 17, 2009 7:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Okay The Dragon. Name me five things Pot does to your body thats worse than alcohol, or some prescribtion narcotics. Name me five and Ill say your right.

by lokie on Aug 17, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so true so true

by shaka on Aug 18, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Off Topic**** Apparently Chuck Lidell will be on next year’s “Dancing with the Stars”.

by Muscle Dolphin on Aug 17, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dana should have put Machida or Anderson on it, they’d have walked it.

by attakdog on Aug 17, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously?

by James S on Aug 17, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just heard that as well. He will look like a monkey f**ck*ng a football. Why oh why would he do this to himself?? Hope his partner doesn’t give bump him on the chin and knock him out.

by CaptainAmerica on Aug 17, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All the prelim fights at Strikeforce were better than this lame wrestling match. Hieron did nothing to win. He played safe for the win by avoiding the takedown. Worst fight of the night and the loudly booing crowd let the fighters know they felt ripped off.

Diaz, stoned or sober will destroy Hieron when that fight is made. Bet Nick is bored at the thought of fighting Hieron. I am bored at the prospect of watching it!

by Rider on Aug 17, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs