Strikeforce signs Matt Lindland to three-fight contract

So what?? Phil either gets KO’d or he KO’s someone; Lindland more often than not is just going to get a TD and lay n prey his opponent.

Yeah, the UFC got the short end.

Wait, didn’t Vitor just knock Lindland out cold?

Isn’t vitor in the UFC?

hmmm

Strikefarce is like a dog roaming around to get the scraps from the table that the UFC dines at.

Lindland is boring and overrated, Baroni is a poor fighter but a funny/annoying personality (depending on your personal taste). Neither signing has me particularly excited in all honesty.

They should book Jacre vs.lindland. I would also like to see Lindand vs. Diaz!

Great signing!

He would beat the vietnamese out of Cung Le!

They say once you get the smell of Lindland on your shorts/gloves/hair you can’t ever get it out no matter how many times you wash.

It’s like a 6 month old onion wrapped in cow dung dipped in skunk urine…with a hint of lavender.

at least he uses the lavender.

“O damn he got caught”….relax!

The point is that the UFC (the so called top promotion) is passing on top 10 fighters (Lindland) and signing .500 record has-beens-that–never–weres (Baroni). They seem to have their priorities mixed up.

Somehow this is all Lesner’s fault, LOL. They are focusing on names and “sell-ability” rather than talent.

“markie” is right though. If they add Leites, MacDonald, Lutter, and add it to their already solid division (also Ninja Rua), they have a really solid division. After Silva (who will be dabbling @ 205), Hendo (who goes in and out of 185), and Franklin (kind of already left the division), the UFC may be weaker division @ 185. Maia and Nate are solid but are they better than the guys in Strikeforce?…maybe not.

Maia and Nate are head and shoulders above the guys in SF; so is Dennis Kang, Akiyama and Okami; I’d pick Bisping over most of those guys; MAYBE Lawler, Leites or J-Mac could beat the count. Chris Leben could even give those guys a run for their money. Shields is only fighting at MW because they don’t have a legit WW (besides Diaz who he won’t fight cause their friends) to challenge him! Joe Riggs is probably the toughest fight Shields will find outside the UFC at WW; hence the move to MW. I’m a big Ninja/Shogun fan but lately Ninja isn’t lookin too good. Scott Smith and Benji are entertaining but top 10 MW’s? I don’t think so.

As far as b!tching about Baroni being signed to the UFC; so what? He’ll probaby end up on the undercard anyway, and he’s getting his 2nd chance. You guys act like he’s gonna go in there lose and still fight in the UFC, doesn’t happen like that. If he drops 2 fights, 3 at the most he’s gone, same treatment as these other fighters are getting. So whats the complaint there??

The complaint is that Baroni is a bum that only beats other bums. While Lindland is getting passed over. Funny you bring up Riggs because that has-been-that–never–was just beat Baroni.

Yes, we know, we are all on the internet here. No new info on your post. But I can play that game with UFC fighters, too:

Okami–Cant remember the last time I saw Okami fight. I agree, he is elite, but I haven’t seen him in so long, he has fallen off the radar.

Akiyama– He just got past Belcher (I actually had Belcher winning that fight, as did a ton of people)

Kang– He is done, he lost to Belcher and Akiyama (see above). Too bad, I was a fan.

Belcher– Before you start on Belcher, this is the guy who has losses to Jason Day and Kendall Grove and his notable wins are over powerhouses like Ed Herman, Kalib Starnes, and Sean Salmon…not impressive. Really and up and down fighter.:o|

Leben– Just got whipped by Bisping and… Kalib Starnes?!?

Bisping– Just got proven to be a lower class of fighter. Before Hendo turned him into a man shaped sack of bangers and mash he only fought guys like Jason Day, McCarthy, SINOSIC (aka Glass Joe), Schafer and Haynes. As soon as he goes against prime competition be folds: Hendo, Rashad…Hamill (most had Hamill winning that fight)

CB Dolloway– Puh-lease

Who else you got?…I’m liking Strikeforces 185 better the more I think about it.

I didn’t name CB Dolloway or Belcher, so you’re pulling names out of your @ss on that one. And Bisping got beat by HENDO, probably #2 MW in the world and if he’s not on it, at least an honorable mention for being in the top 10 P4P fighters in the world, so how is Bisping suddenly a “lower class fighter”… PLEASE. As far as Kang, he lost to Belcher on nerves and it was his debut; sh!t happens, he’s since come back with a solid win and is now 1-1 in the UFC.

And lets not pretend like SF is the bigger, better org, and these guys just can’t wait to sign with Strikeforce and air on showtime. Gimme a break; they’re in SF either because they already had their chance in the UFC and they blew it, or because the UFC won’t have them. In short, that MW SF belt means absolutley NOTHING.

Lay off the sauce, quit drinkin Intro’s UFC Haterade, SF is a decent feeder org, but trying to draw a similiar comparison between their talent pool and the UFC’s in any weight class is ridiculous. And as far as Baroni, he’s an action packed fighter that comes out swinging, win or lose it’s an entertaining fight.

And who said Lindland got stepped over?? What do you even base that on? No one said the UFC refused to sign him; maybe he has personal problems with the UFC so he signed with SF. Maybe he’s one of the FEW who don’t like the exclusive terms of a UFC contract. Who the hell knows, you’re talkin out your @ss.

Wow, you’re so interested in winning the argument, that you’re missing the point of it.

It’s like arguing with a teenager…oh wait, I think I just figured something out.

We know you didn’t mention CBD or Belcher. But they ARE IN THE UFC. The point is, that the 185 stable in the UFC isn’t as good as it could be. There are very legit or maybe even stronger 185ers in, wait for it, other promotions….oh my god!!!! Sorry, it’s just a fact. 185 is the weakest division in the UFC and other organizations are catching up and in some cases signing better fighters….nothing you can say will change that fact.

I don’t hate the UFC at all. I am a huge supporter. I watch all of their PPvs. But I won’t pretend when I see other orgs putting together a nice set of fighters. No one is pretending that Strikeforce is the bigger, “better” (whatever that means) promotion. Now who’s talking out of their ass? In fact, I’m just saying that there is a descrepency when small, less funded org like SF can put together such a great stable of fighters. SF may have been a feeder org or a retirement community once but they are really coming around. Fedor, Babalu, Carano, Chris Cyborg, Nick Diaz, Lawler, Sheilds, Overeem, Mousasi, Rogers, Le (to name a few) are all ELITE level fighters in their prime. UFC has plenty as well but nothing you can say will take anything away form the fact that Strikeforce is building momentum and while we are on it, UFC is starting to alienate some of thier fans. Tito coming back…boring, Lesner as a champ…. the antithesis (look it up O damn) of martial arts, BJ’s constant whining. And lastly, the Baroni signing. Tito and Baroni have no title shot in thier future, they are just there to fill up space with “big name” fighters that are done. Isn’t the point of MMa to figure out who is the best fighter? No just sideshow, smack talk matchups.

Like you said, “And who said Lindland got stepped over?” I didn’t, I said the UFC passed on him. Maybe he didn’t even consider them, but that only makes my point that Strikeforce is becoming a valid option for fighters other than the UFC. Thanks for making my point.

Nothing you can say will change the facts…so who’s drinking the sauce now? A big fat glass of UFC pride.

Oh and BTW, I didn’t say Bisping is low class, but it has been proven that he is not in the classification of elite level fighters like Hendo, Rashad, etc. He has been fighting cans…period. I really liked the guy on both seasons of TUF that he was on. But the nice thing about fighting is that it is real…sometimes cruel reality. He hasn’t beating ANYONE of real merit. I hope he comes back blazing but he is as of now…over rated. Argue that O Damn….you can’t.

Babalu on his way out, he’s already expressed in several interviews that he feels he’s coming up on the end of his carreer soon. Fedor #1 HW fighting #10 ranked and below the rest of his carreer in SF doesn’t interest most fans (assuming those fans even know who he is, cause he’s far from a household name in the USA); Cyborg/Carano is the only interesting female fight at 145 right now; name the next contender for the Womens division MMA belt. Nick Diaz just pulled off the card because of a failed drug test and expressed interest in pro boxing. Cung Le hasn’t fought in over 2 years and prefers acting to fighting, so much that SF is creating an interim belt. Brett Rogers has 1 quality win over a big name opponent and thats AA; who’s just lost his last two fights by KO in the 1st rd.

I didn’t make your point, I destroyed it; StrikeForce’s last show had roughly 245k viewers?? How does that stack up to a UFC PPV that does 5 times that on average? Again, completely off base here, they don’t even have a WELTER WEIGHT division, which is why Shields is now fighting out of his weight class! SF is pulling lower #’s than the WEC shows that air free on VS. Jens Pulver vs Faber garnered over 1 million views. SF has never done even half that well.

This argument isn’t fooling anyone but you, they aren’t going to beat/compete with the UFC; they’re a great org for mid level talent looking for a home but they’ve doomed themselves by partnering with M-1 and Dream (which is hemorraging money btw). The only belt holder in SF that you can make a legit argument for in regards to beating a UFC title holder is Fedor; the rest of their division champions would be completely DESTROYED by the UFC belt holders. Sell it somewhere else; I’m not even sure you beleive your own argument. Maybe you just buy into it because you would really like/hope it to be true?

The UFC has a much better MW division than SF and it’s silly to argue otherwise. The UFC has the best p4p fighter in MMA Anderson Silva as their champion, consensus top 10 MWs Hendo, Maia and Marquardt as their top contenders and other quality fighters like Belfort, Okami, Wandi, Bisping, Sexyama, Gouveia, Kang, Belcher, Palhares, Cote, Leites (he didn’t get cut after all unfortunately) and Sonnen, as well as Franklin occasionally.

SF has D list movie star and overrated semi-retired fighter Cung Le as their champion, with Lindland (good but boring and coming off a brutal and quick loss to Vitor), Shields (WW fighting at MW because of the weak WW division in SF), Lawler (good but just lost to Shields and had a mixed record in the UFC), Smith (exciting fighter but barely top 20, if that), Ninja (past it) and Radach (exciting fighter but lost to Smith). They have decent names and can put on good fights but it isn’t a stacked division by any means.

Baroni is a joke of a signing but it’s not been conformed yet and we don’t know what the UFC’s plans are for him, there’s a good chance that he’ll be put on TUF 11 and used as a gatekeeper for the TUF cast or he may have been given a last chance fight like Loiseau got and if he loses he’s cut straight away. Lindland is a better signing ranking wise but he’s never been a draw and the UFC may be able to get more out of Baroni than SF can get out of Lindland, we’ll have to wait and see before slamming either promotion.

Wow, well i’m not gonna bother typing that rebuttal again, needless to say I don’t agree, I think your argument has very little credence or evidence that SF is on a UFC level or will be on the level to compete with them. No champs in SF that could beat a UFC champion with the exception of Fedor, and thats not even 100% for sure. There isn’t even a WW division worth mentioning, hence why Shields fights out of his weight at MW, and I’m willing to bet you couldn’t name 10 fighters in each weight cl@ss that fight under SF. Thats how thin their roster is. Like I said, I had a rebuttal but apparently Mania is pro SF today and they don’t want it posted..

yeah! I think so too..maybe odhgc is just missing the point here…no one is arguing about who the better org here..its just that Mac is saying that other orgs is catching up in other weight classes

they cut them all? when did they cut shamrock,diaz,le,sheilds? yeah they cut lindland because of a shirt and sign baroni. lol.

roy, why aren’t shamrock and diaz fighting in the UFC any more? Because the UFC didn’t want them. You know they use to fight there, right?

they where not cut, and the ufc has tried to get them both back.you knew that right?