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Counter programming alert: Carano vs Cyborg vs UFC 100

Back in June, veteran mixed martial arts journalist Loretta Hunt said that Gina Carano will "get more press and media attention than UFC 100."

Looks like we're about to find out once and for all.

Ultimate Fighting Championship has scheduled a Spike TV replay of selected fights from UFC 100 for Saturday, August 15 at 10 PM ET, directly opposite the Strikeforce: 'Carano vs Cyborg' event that's set to air live on Showtime.

Fights to be aired from Zuffa's mega-event include:

265 lbs.: Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
185 lbs.: Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
185 lbs.: Alan Belcher vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
205 lbs.: Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
155 lbs.: Shannon Gurgerty vs. Matt Grice
205 lbs.: Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien

This is not the UFC's first counter programming effort against Strikeforce. Spike TV debuted UFC 94: "St. Pierre vs. Penn 2" to run head-to-head against "Shamrock vs. Diaz" back on April 11.

Star-divide

This latest news, of course, should come as no surprise since Zuffa has made a habit of counter programming in the past. The UFC went up against the Elite XC debut show on CBS in May 2008 with a tribute to perhaps the most popular mixed martial artist on the planet, Chuck LIddell, called "Ultimate Iceman."

They also hastily put together UFC Fight Night 14 to draw interest away from the debut of Affliction: "Banned" on PPV last July with a main event between Anderson "The Spider" Silva and James "The Sandman" Irvin.

For Affliction’s second effort, "Day of Reckoning" on January 24, the UFC answered with a replay of UFC 91 "Lesnar vs. Couture."

Strikeforce can be now be considered a major player in mixed martial arts with its signing of heavyweight free agent, Fedor Emelianenko, as well as its pending cable and network television deals.

While UFC President Dana White has long since supported the efforts of Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker, he is now at war with "Strikefarce" since they entered the proverbial big stage.

Competition 101 (or perhaps '100' in this case).

Let the games begin.

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Ya, I’m still going to watch Cyborg kill Carano

by ScissorSweep on Aug 12, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I already saw UFC 100 plus most people have a tivo dont they?

by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Aug 12, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

off topic, but here’s a lame excuse for Forrest leaving the cage after his loss. IMO the classy thing to do is hang around, shake hands and take the loss like a man. I “don’t feel like” going to my wife’s families house, but it’s something you just do out of respect!

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content5437.html

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and some more off topic!

dennis hallman signs 4fight deal with ufc! i hope he fights hughes!! haha

by AzCombat on Aug 12, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100% Forrest went out like a biotch IMO!! Be a man. you can be all happy and joking when you win, but run off like a 2 year old when you lose. Shogun got tapped by forrest when people thought he was the best at 205. Do you think Shogun he felt good after that fight? Hell no! But he still stood there like a man head high and gave forrest his due, even though in the back of his mind he knows that if he wasn’t coming off surgery, he would have killed him!!!
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Forrest is a fan favoite , but I’m afraid he will lose fans with these antics. Come on, even Dana owned him with a post fight comment when asked where Forrest went Dana replied , “I think he might be in georgia by now. He just ran out of here.”
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All I kept thinking was, “RUN FORREST RUN!!!!!!”

by getrawbc on Aug 12, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good posts. I had no respect for Forrests skills, but now im losing respect for him as a man! Definitely acting like an overgrown baby! Running out of the cage like that is just classless and to make matters worse, he didnt even have the balls to show up to the press conference which is the PROFESSIONAL THING TO DO, especially when you are a fan favorite thats headlining the card!

I said it from the beginning that I wasnt buying that dislocated Jaw excuse….His Jaw is fine. NOthing wrong with him accept for some serious immaturity!

by john G on Aug 12, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said the same thing when he started running

by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Aug 12, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOl I’m not sure about the jaw but something was wrong with Forrest he looked scared after the first flurry of punches maybe he was to jacked for the fight and the nerves got to him?

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or he realised what a lot of us already knew – He’s SH!T.

by attakdog on Aug 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t go that far he was only a inch away from making solid contact on Silva’s face before he got KO’d and he took some power punches from Rampage but he is a very up and down fighter looks like a top 5 fighter one fight then looks like he should be in Strikeforce the next?

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forrest was fine until he got dropped by Andy’s first punch, after that the writing was on the wall and Silva did what I said that he was going to do and made Forrest look foolish and smashed him into oblivion.

Poor showing from Forrest after the fight, running away instead of showing Silva respect for being the better man, then not even appearing at the press conference. I like Forrest but that was really disrespectful to Silva and the fans, hopefully those idiots who booed Anderson know better now.

by David W-S on Aug 12, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strikeforce has really dropped the ball making a chick-fight the main event. Ridiculous.

And this card has really gone down the crapper with Diaz tarding out. From what I’ve seen of Ishida he’s not a very exciting fighter to watch. The only fight that really interests me on this card now is Mousasi/Babalu.

That being said, I really like Strikeforce and have high hopes for their next offering. I expect to see the following three fights on the October card:

1) Fedor vs. Rogers (#1 contender match)

2) Overeem vs. Werdum (HW title – assuming Werdum wins on Sat)

3) Shields vs. Jacare (MW title)

Haven’t had much time to chat lately Maniacs, because my arm has healed to the point where I can resume heavy training again. Heading up to the BC interior for the next few days. Peace out ’till then

by Jeremyjackson on Aug 12, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im just pumped they arnt showing the gsp fight, cuz that fight was boring as hell and now we get 2 see 3 fights that wernt on before

by JG on Aug 12, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GSP’s destruction of Alves was great. You would rather see Gurgerty vs. Grice in a who gives a shit match than GSP vs. Alves in a title fight? Yes, we already saw this fight, but there are people that didn’t see 100 that I am sure would rather see GSP/Alves.

by naturalshadow on Aug 12, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else surprised that Gina isn’t making the late night show rounds? I figured that would be the best way they would market her looks and this thing. I guess now that all eyes are on strikeforce, their f-ups are showing they are as incompetent as everyone else in the MMA graveyard.

by NameNotRequired on Aug 12, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

99% of the world will end up watching ufc 100 just to see bisping get ktfo

by randy murders on Aug 12, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

99% of the world doesnt know who Bisping is!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll never ever tire of seeing that! God bless Dan Henderson.

by attakdog on Aug 12, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DVR!! For those of you who couldn’t record live I was lucky enough that my box let me? But then again I think with UFC 102 around the corner I won’t waste another Saturday night watching strikfarce.

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve watched that KO so many times. It’s like a fine wine, its just keeps getting better with age. Bisping probably wakes up in the morning and still takes elbow.

WAR DAN"S ELBOW !!!

by ~Savage~ on Aug 12, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“It’s like a fine wine, its just keeps getting better with age” LOL

by attakdog on Aug 12, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll be watching UFC 100, I can catch the recap on the Mousasi vs Babalu fight on Mania, thats the only one I’m interested in anyway, the rest of the card went downhill fast. Maintaining my campaign to not contribute to anything M-1 has a hand in, and thats SF at the moment.

by M1Globalcansuckmyballs(Formerly ODHGC) on Aug 12, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was only a matter of time. LET THE WAR BEGIN! Go DANA.

by TaPouT on Aug 12, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I woke up this morning, and THANKED Dan Henderson AGAIN, these past few weeks have been great since that knockout.

Now I get to wait patiently as the rumor is, Bisping wants a shot at Wand, what a year!

by the Slovak on Aug 13, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dam right we got TIVO !!!

by Andy on Aug 12, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LAME!!!UFC 100 was mediocre anyway!

THere isnt anything in dana’s power that could get me to miss mOusasi vs. Babalu!

If I was GSP, I would be FURIOUS at the disrespect of not airing his UFC 100 fight! GSP deserves better than that!

by john G on Aug 12, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but watch the amount of people that change the channel before the womens “main event.” those are the numbers I’m interested in!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will be watching the women for the same reason everbody watches a chick fight… in case a boob poops out. :-P

by BNF on Aug 12, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s funny BNF.

by RealDrew on Aug 12, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

John stoop being a POSER!

by John G WORKS FOR ZUFFA!lol on Aug 12, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am actually looking forward to Carano vs. Cyborg. Outide of Mousasi vs. Babalu, the rest of the card has been degraded by injuries and other various problems.

by naturalshadow on Aug 12, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the GSP fight was quite boring, Dana is trying to show exciting fights that not everyone might have seen. In no way is this a knock on GSP, but the fight was boring.
hey John, did you end up going to 101? How were the seats? Hope you had a good time, sorry I erased your #, my text box was full and I deleted them all! did you read my write up?

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only fight i can watch without getting tired is hendo-bisping. lesnar-mir 2 and the akyama were good too but that was it. gsp-alves was a huge letdown, but from a technical perspective is was amazing, just wasn’t exciting. and fitch-thiago sucked

by Jared on Aug 12, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

100 was on the whole more interesting that 101 imo.

by DSmith on Aug 12, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m biased!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GSP/Alves was only relatively boring

i didn’t find it boring, but then again, I’m a huge fan of GSP and also knew what was going on (i guess unlike some people) and the skill and strategy of the fight.

I guess kevin also thought Hughes and Couture were in a lot of boring fights too…

by Rob on Aug 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow Rob, I can never have an opinion without you jumping on me. I know what was going on and realize GSP got injured, sorry I don’t find it to be an exciting fight! my bad almighty rob!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

by the way rob, not too many people here found it too exciting. GSP dominated, and didn’t finish when I personally felt he could have. I realize he relies heavily on his wrestling, I just think he could dominate alves standing too. while I’m not a fan, I’m giving gsp tons of props!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GSP-Alves was like all of GSP’s fights these days, he takes his opponent down and wears them out, beating them mentally in the first round and crusing to a decision (unless they quit first). It’s not the most exciting style and it’s quite hypocritical that Lesnar gets booed for using wrestling to win fights, but GSP is a freak athlete and until someone at WW trains in all aspects of the game like him then he isn’t going to be beaten.

I think it’s smart showing prelims that didn’t make the card, GSP-Alves was a 25 minute fight that all UFC fans have already seen, so by cutting that they can show arguably more exciting fights that PPV buyers didn’t see. The other two main events are there because everyone seems to love Hendo (I’ll never understand why) and hate Bisping (to be fair I can see why even though I like him) so they want to see that KO whilst Lesnar is the biggest star in MMA today, whether you’re a fan or not you want to see him because you don’t know what he’s going to do next. After that post-fight interview, the UFC have to show Brock-Mir II again.

Personally I would rather watch the SF card, as I’ve already seen 100 and Mousasi-Babalu is a sick fight, but it’s not on TV here anyway so counter programming doesn’t affect me.

by David W-S on Aug 12, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

David I have to disagree…

If you look at the Fitch fight he knocked fitch down three times I believe. He also knocked Alves down and in the Penn fight was beating him senseless

As I said I am a big fan, so no fight of his is going to be boring. Saying he tries to ride out a decision…cmon man…seriously? And what fighter in the right mind is going to try to stand with Alves when he’s fresh? Kos? we know what happens….

I just don’t think it was that boring of a fight. it was like Hughes’ past fights and some of Coutures. Georges beat the crap out of Alves, Penn and Fitch. Penn was the only one he didn’t knock down standing. But he did pick him apart when they were on the feet after a round or so.

I completely understand why they aren’t showing the fight, but I’m just sticking up for the fact that it wasn’t a fight that you can clearly label boring (or alteast not to me)

Kev! im not trying to jump all over you man! sorry!

by Rob on Aug 12, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no biggie, to disagree is one thing, to say i have no clue is another. I think my knowledge speaks for itself, and the conversations we had in phily this weekend (OJR, Dustin, Robert and I) were far from no knowledge! Thats all, no worries buddy, it’s just hot here so I’m irritable! AC is pumping and it’s still 74 in here!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on John… people want to see Bizping take a nap again or those who heard about it want to see it for the first time and Brock will pull the mainstream / wwe crossover crowd.

GSP was a long fight – I’d rather see the fights I missed like Bones v O’brien and Bonnar v Hammer. I know the outcome but now I can watch it in HD. I dount it was disrespect – more so a timing/content issue to compete.

I could actually skip Aki vs Belcher. but thats only me.

by Big Zino on Aug 12, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont have showtime soooo YAY for ufc 100!!! i realy wanted see the jon jones fight.

by doomdoom on Aug 12, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ur mouth was medicore

by Shinebox on Aug 12, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow your not gay at all

by Jared on Aug 12, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like boys too by the way

by Jared on Aug 12, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh whoever that is, is real cool back to clinton jackson i suppose

by Jared on Aug 12, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

?wow?

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck u!

by (Clinton Jackson) formerly known as Jared on Aug 12, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea and i just reported you to the administrator so dont even try to use my name again this is not cool man NOT COOL

by Jared on Aug 12, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“i just reported you to the administrator”
now I’m seriously laughing uncontrollably! If mania cared he’d have a log in. people do this all the time, calm down. It’s probably thedrago or the johnworksforzuffa guy, get over it. Why are you so mad? The only reason I can see is because it’s true!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leave him alone!

by Jared's mom Lorraine on Aug 12, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

these focking kids need to go back to school. Everytime schools out, this site turns to CRAP!

by john G on Aug 12, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we were talking about that last weekend. No one believed me last spring break when i said “oh, school must be out,” but I was so right!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve really noticed a dramatic decrease in the average IQ level here lately. Makes me less inclined to get involved in debates. Some of you retards need to leave the jokes to the bigger kids.

by Jeremyjackson on Aug 12, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

by gaara on Aug 12, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gsp is currently in a legal battle with Bj penn and his fight or any of his previous fights cannot air until 11/18/2010

by Dougy on Aug 12, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh? where did you here this? how does a legal battle over greasing affect zuffa’s right to air his fights? Not being a wise ass, asking a serious question!

maia and thiago silva are getting good odds for 102

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zuffa wouldnt disclose any part of the disagreement its because of GSP legal team, GSP stated he would discuss the matter prior to the Season Finale of Royal Pains on USA

by Dougy on Aug 12, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

on USA? I do like that show, and haven’t seen anything on this. are you busting balls or being serious? I’ve seen no mention of this, and the fact that his fights were broadcast on the top 100 countdown, I don’t know whether to believe you or not!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Usa is in direct negotiations with GSP’s legal team
GSP 180 airs this fall !

by Dougy on Aug 12, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but he works for Zuffa, they own his fights. The only person in the world that owns there rights to fights is Fedor. I call B.S.

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mania, is there truth to this? I’m very curious!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes Kevin you need to check your resources LIMITED Liability is contractual

by Administrator on Aug 12, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I call RUMOR otherwise we would of heard something about it?

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

administrator, what the hell are you talking about? Zuffa owns GSP’s fights, he has no say (or his legal team) of when Zuffa shows them!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gullible be thy name kevin

by Rob on Aug 12, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no guys hes right look into it

by Jeremy jackson on Aug 12, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol Rob how much longer can he be strung

by xxmnnn on Aug 12, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh great, now some mongo is using my screen name too. Oh well, it won’t be hard to tell the difference. The usurper’s posts will suck.

by Jeremyjackson on Aug 12, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cyborg vs. Carano fight is not going to happen. One of them is going to come in heavy and the fight is going to be cancelled. This card is cursed. Strikeforce is cursed.

by Mike on Aug 12, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This will hurt Strikeforce a little, but most people have DVR so its not that big of a deal. I bet UFC will put a live show on Spike for when Fedor debuts though!

by ---Caesar--- on Aug 12, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DVR recordings don’t count towards ratings. If people DVR strike force and watch 100, it will affect strikeforce.

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are seperate ratings for DVR, and the networks pay very close attention to them too. In the long run, this could lead to the end of Strikeforce if the UFC continues to counter program all their shows!

by ---Caesar--- on Aug 12, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if someone is going to dvr one, wouldn’t you dvr the one you know how it turns out? watch the one you have no idea what is going to happen.

by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 12, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it’ll hurt strikeforce more than a “little”. Casual fans would obviously prefer to see a UFC show over a strikeforce show everytime and showing unaired undercard fights from 100 is a good way to hook some of the hardcore fans who’ve already watched 100. Looks like Dana’s officially declared war on Strikeforce!

by attakdog on Aug 12, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why do this?? and dana white says he’s in it for the fans?! air this free shit during the week or on sunday. don’t air it when there’s other stuff for us ‘fans’ to watch. give it to us when there’s no mma at all on tv for a few weeks. what we need to do is just stop buyin the ufc ppv’s and wait til he runs a counterprogram and just watch them for free. i feel shafted, any true fan of the sport should feel the same way. knowing that ufc 100 is gonna air live for free just a month after i bought it on ppv for $50 doesn’t sit well with me at all. i’m glad my buddies in iraq r helping assist in the iraqi pirating of dvd’s now, selling copies of ufc ppv’s for a couple bucks. that’s just money dana white won’t get n i love it

by deuce 4 on Aug 12, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must admit, I’m quite surprised they’ve shown 100 so early, I was expecting them to counter Fedor’s fall debut with this. If I’d paid for 100 on PPV I’d be a little p!ssed off.

by attakdog on Aug 12, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dana will counter Fedor’s debut with a free live PPV on Spike. If you ask me Dana is a mad scientist. He will crush all competition in order to obtain the best fighters for the UFC. He is it in for the fans but he is a business man first.

by ASR on Aug 12, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

free live ppv? what?

by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 12, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That really doesnt make sense. Dana will have a PPV quality live event on spike. There ya go buttcrack.

by ASR on Aug 12, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1st or third

by Shinebox on Aug 12, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

…and the beat goes on…..

by introvert on Aug 12, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

forget that! im watchin roy jones vs jeff lacy!

by sac165 on Aug 12, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for supporting boxing. The Roy Jones PPV will probably beat some PPV records, Maybe 10 ppv buys, this guy and Roy’s and Lacey’s family. At least the ones that will not be sitting in the the event.

by fmx on Aug 12, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is 3 options saturday, an event thats already been shown, and event with a main event of 2 women who have at best amature skills, or 2 legends of boxing. Im a fight fan, it doesn’t matter boxing or mma and saturday boxing has the best fight on.

by sac165 on Aug 12, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely.

by introvert on Aug 12, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dispute using the word “legend” to describe Jeff Lacey.

by attakdog on Aug 12, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hes 25-2 with a gold metal in the olympics. how many mma fighters have those credintials? Fedor has a similar record and is called a legend (without a gold metal)

by sac165 on Aug 12, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree, I wouldn’t consider Lacey a legend. He had a good run before getting derailed by Calzague. Roy Jones’ career is at a point similar to other old champions, he knows he will never be a contender but somehow wants to keep hanging to his past glories and all he does is make a shameful display of his fading set of skills. Let’s be honest, he is only relevant on this page because he has a grasp on a little publicity that A. Silva is giving him.

by fmx on Aug 12, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

roy jones won a world title in his last fight… with calzaghe retired all of his belts are up for grab. rj is 58-5 and at 41 can still beat 98% of people in the world. A. Silva is a fool for thinking he would even be competative in a boxing match with roy, he just wants a big pay day before he retires and roy jones can give it to him.

by sac165 on Aug 12, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are 5 world titles in each division in boxing, so winning a title in these times is not that difficult for experienced fighters. In the US the “the boxing world” is relatively small. Guys like Kesler of poland who had a great run never got a chance in the US. There are great fighters around the world that never get the chance to compete in the US and retire in obscurity. Great examples of fighters that get a chance are Hatton and Tszyu, they were relative unknowns that were given small chances and made the most of them.

With Lacey, winning a gold medal in boxing makes you a legend in amateur boxing, in professional boxing he was less than average, our of those 25 fights how many were 12 rounders and how many were against average and top contenders.

by fmx on Aug 12, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sac, you’re wrong about lacey but 100% correct about Silva’s chances against RJJ.

by attakdog on Aug 13, 2009 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cyborg via murder

by ScissorSweep on Aug 12, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

God Bless my DVR, it will be humming that night.

If I was Scott Coker I would be worried.

by Big Zino on Aug 12, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cyborgs gonna send Carano right back to her old supercuts job in Tweekerville,Ohio or wherever shes from

by Shinebox on Aug 12, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol @ them not showing GSP’s fight, it wasn’t the most thrilling fight but hes still one of their biggest stars.

by Toad on Aug 12, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think it’ll really draw people to watch UFC over Strikeforce… although I’d be tempted if they aired the Buffer 360 this time!

by Gentleman on Aug 12, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you kidding me? the ufc has always outdrawn other events they put there cards up against, and spike is on more peoples tv’s than showtime, and you don’t see any advertisements for strikeforce on tv

by randy murders on Aug 12, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True… that was a stupid thing to say.

I meant for those who have already watched UFC 100, there wasn’t really anything to make you want to watch it again so soon (apart from if they put in the 360!). Strikeforce seem to be great at getting promo hits out online, but thats only going to be seen like people like us on sites like these!

by Gentleman on Aug 12, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just saw an ad for this event on CNN. Shaw cable, my cable provider, is advertising it too. Unfortunately, the only fight they mention is Cyborg/Carano.

by Jeremyjackson on Aug 12, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if the replay gets more viewers

by Shinebox on Aug 12, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they do get views. Not everyone buys ppv’s, not to mention Lesner will have the “wrestling draw” for people that didn’t buy the live broadcast!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d bet anyone on here $20 bucks that it does.
I know MMA fans (IE, not UFC fans) who aren’t terribly interested in this strikeforce card w/ exception to Mousasi and Renato getting down.

by Big Zino on Aug 12, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ill go on record and say the Replay is gonna do like 3-4 mil viewers and the Strikeforce will do like 300-400K…

by Fokman on Aug 12, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hm, just got nailed with an advertisement that was loud, took up the entire screen, and wouldn’t close… pretty annoying. Just saying…

by Soups on Aug 12, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

People that didn’t buy the PPV will tune into UFC that night. We are now witness to the slow – unfortunate – demise of Stikeforce on the “big stage”… hopefully they will be able to stay afloat after this all plays out with the UFC and Stikeforce in direct competiotion and remain a feeder for up and coming talent… and for the UFC cut fighters…
Sad but true…

by Dumbdancing on Aug 12, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Danas a dumbass I pay 60 bucks to see half that card on ppv then he shows the rest free.. How bout the mofo start showin all the fights when we pay for em.

by Mike on Aug 12, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL Dana’s an asshole, but a dumbass he’s not. There’s a HUGE difference between the value of a live broadcast and a replay. Do you think advertisers will pay millions of dollars to air their commercial during a REPLAY of the Super Bowl?

by Pat on Aug 12, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I’m not buying anymore PPV’s if I can watch them online and then see them on TV a month later. Sucks to spend $50 then see the same fights on free TV a month later.

by Diceman on Aug 12, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know guys, I have a hard time watching a fight when I already know what happens. Just me. It’s like when I DVR a pats game (when at work), if I see the score, I can’t go back and watch it! It’s just me I guess

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m actually the same way kevin when it comes to other sports. If I see the score I don’t have any interest in watching it. With MMA though I still like watching the fights if I know the outcome. I probably would’ve bought 100 even if I knew it was coming on a month later, just because it was 100 though. But something doesn’t sit right with me about paying $50 for a PPV and then them showing it on free TV a month later. Just because I think Dana’s a bitch I’m watching all UFC events online or at a bar from now on. UFC isn’t getting my money anymore if they’re going to show the events for free after a month. And to all UFC nuthuggers I know the UFC will be just fine without my money, it’s just the principle.

by Diceman on Aug 12, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get it dice!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They didn’t show Coleman-Bonner on the PPV however they are on the list here??????

by CaptainAmerica on Aug 12, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or the Jones vs O’Brien fight… Counter programming with a little extra added to make people watch.

by BNF on Aug 12, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smart!

by attakdog on Aug 12, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m looking forward to seeing the coleman/bonnar fight and the jon jones on dvr
but still won’t miss strikeforce

by phenomenal angel on Aug 12, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How bout we stop buying the ppv’s and wait til they show it on Spike!

by PACO on Aug 12, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

go for it… I’ll continue to buy PPV’s

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt! Thanks for the voice of reason Kevin. Ya can really tell the part timers on here. There the 1’s that can’t read, ie: Coleman/Bonner wasn’t on ppv?
Ya thanks Einstein, not only did u not notice that neither were Jones fight, u also didn’t grasp that’s the idea so u watch again.
Also, thanks to all u young part timers complaining and coming up w/these genius idea of not ordering ppv in the off chance it gets replayed a month later(in this case w/o a main event of GSP/alves) who cares bout that fight right? Oh no 1 just true fans. Who cares about seeing it live? Oh just real fans. Who cares about supporting the sport we live to watch? Again fans.
Thanks to all u part timers, leave the real fight enthuiasts to us. We’ll gladly pay the 50.00 to watch the most talented sport in the world once a month.
And here’s an idea if ur too cheap: order it get 5-10 friends over(assuming you have that many :) ) and charge em 5-10 bucks. Problem solved cheap sk8s
That is all.

by Daniel worby on Aug 12, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great post, you still need an iphone though! lol jk

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow that strike force logo is pretty Rad, I wonder if my tattoo guy would put that under my tasmanian devil

by Dougy on Aug 12, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Strikeforce makes profit off of their gate. Everything else is icing on the cake. This is going to really cripple Dana’s ability to counter program as Dana has never gone to war with a profitable org (EXC, IFL, Pride, and Affliction did themselves in with crappy management). Also, 99.9% of the kind of people that know enough about mma to watch Strikeforce have already seen UFC 100.

by Bill Maher on Aug 12, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strikeforce made profits on their gates… before they signed Fedor.

by kibbled_bits on Aug 12, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kibbled Strikeforce makes money on their gate depending on the salaries of fighters. When Shamrock fought the gate was not enough to cover the fighters wages but the showtime money probally made up for everything else and then some.

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

coker came out and said they have to sell so many tickets (I forgot the #) to break even for this event

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True bill but there are a lot of angry fans that stated they will not watch another Strikeforce event, a lot of MMA fans that could give a sh*t about this card, a lot of fans that don’t even know this card is happening (i don’t watch a lot of TV but I haven’t seen a lot of advertising?) Add UFC 100 live on free TV even more fans gone, UFC 102 around the corner even brings less interest to this card. it all adds up I know there will be a lot of hardcore fans but really even the hardcore fan support is down because they are pissed with Strikforce? I know Dana will be calling out Loretta Hunt on her prediction and with a big grin LOL.

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I replied to the wrong comment, rofl. I was going to say that almost all logos are lame. At the very least there are not Strikeforce boxercising gyms and they don’t start their program with crappy nu-metal.

by Bill Maher on Aug 12, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It does bother me paying $55 for the PPV, and missing fights. Then, if I want to see them, I have to buy them on UFC.com

I love the idea of showing the undercard fights on spike live. I’m sure that would make timing critical, and there would be an issue if the fights went to fast, but whatev. I also think it would help sell the PPV, people seeing the live event for free, then to see the rest they have to buy the PPV.

by Miketsi on Aug 12, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who buys them? 20 min after the ppv, I watched the coleman/bonnar fight on mmascraps. you can find them without paying!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who the hell want wants to watch Lesner anyways, except to see him get beat down.

by charlyw on Aug 12, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love watching those hammer fist F up Mir those are crazy powerful for such a short swing!! Speaking of Brock he needs to fight someone else ASAP I know everyone is thinking the winner of Carwin or Cain but Brock would have to wait for next year so I’m thinking and hoping the winner of Randy or NOG.

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, don’t they fight on the same card? even if they r on the sept crd 3 month puts them on the new years card whick is where I’m sure Dana wants Brock!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carwin & Cain fight Oct. 24th I don’t think the winner would have enough time to prepare unless the winner comes out of that fight at near 100%?

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks puck, in that case, you’re right, maybe superbowl card then!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is Anderson/Hendo at 106, Penn/Sanchez, GSP/Swick, and Tito/Coleman at 108 (New Year’s card), and Lesnar/Carwin on Superbowl Saturday.

by Jeremyjackson on Aug 12, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If NOG wins I can see them putting him up against Brock in Nov. otherwise we will have to wait for Superbowl Saturday six months after 100 I guess?

by Beaver on Aug 12, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alan Belcher was ripped off on this card.

by kibbled_bits on Aug 12, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

use my name again see what happens man Im not okay with this u think its funny this is not cool bro

by Jared on Aug 12, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol, it wasn’t me, I’m not into changing names, but what exactly are you going to do?
I think it’s humorous when guys give threats online!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can certainly try to help him

by Administrator 14 on Aug 12, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m still on kevins side. Lol whether its him or not I don’t even care. He has the only valid points in this thread practically lol.

Plz don’t kill me.

by Daniel worby on Aug 12, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why wouldn’t it be me? I always try to talk and give rational opinions. OJR summed it up perfect, he said “it’s fashionable to hate on me on this site!”

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome, they are showing 3 unaired fights from UFC100.

by Din on Aug 12, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They have 3 prelim fights not shown on PPV, so its something new for those that didn’t buy them at UFC.com or actually go to the event, early. Rather watch the 3 UFC prelims than the only 2 fights worth watching on the SF card. The 2 fights on SF I’ll look for a download, hopefully I’ll be able to just download the 2 fights I want and not waste bandwidth on the other junk fights.

by jaime on Aug 12, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t get some of you people. The 3 unaired prelims for UFC 100 are pedestrian at best. I have seen the Bonnar fight and it has nothing but Coleman GnP for 2 1/2 rounds. The Jones fight ended in the 2nd and I doubt any of you care at all about Grice/Gugerty. Why is that preferable to Mousasi/Babalu, Carano/Cyborg and Melendez/Japanese guy? My cable company allows me to add and drop Showtime for one day so I can watch Strikeforce for less than a $1. Why not support another fight league? The more fights the better. You people are like lemmings under the thumb of White. Pathetic.

by Broncos1998 on Aug 12, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll be watching strikeforce because I’m an mma fan, but with the arguement:
“Carano/Cyborg and Melendez/Japanese guy?”
you probably lost a lot of people. the first bout is the only relevant match up on the card now!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah agree watching a replay of UFC 100 + the unaired undercard fights is guaranteed to be more exciting than Strikfarce… unless your watching by yourself with the vasoline by your side lol.

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amazing that anyone could think watching fights you already know the outcome of could be more exciting than watching live fights.

by Jeremyjackson on Aug 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100% JJ

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There will be more fan’s watching 100 replay than Strikefarce for many different reasons Jeremy it’s just a fact a hardcore MMA fan like yourseld is going to have to deal with. Enjoy the WEC, Strikeforce & Dream that’s cool but don’t tell me to be a MMA fan you need to follow every organization. Simply put the UFC with all their shows and events can even satisfy the harcore fan and is were 95% of the best fighters fight. I could care less who the Strikforce champion is they are lucky to defend it once a year.

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never disputed that UFC 100 will draw more viewers. I’m sure it will. My amazement stems from your statement that you think a UFC 100 replay will be “more exciting”.

And yes, casual MMA fans will probably only follow one major brand, that being the UFC. But this site is, by definition, not for casual fans. Casual fans aren’t on here debating every detail of upcoming fights. So I believe you are certainly the minority on sites like this when you claim that MMA fans only need to follow one organization. More fights = more fun for MMA fans.

by Jeremyjackson on Aug 12, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JJ take it easy there was no comment about mma fans have to follow one organization. I made the simple statement that the UFC has enough fights for even the hardcore MMA fans to get there mma fix.

 The fact that you watch other organizations does not make you a more intelligent fan you just simply have more time in your life schedule to commit your time on watching MMA than most fans. Saturday night if I’m watching the replay of 100 and the wife or kids want to go rent a movie or something no big deal or if a friend calls and wants to go out I’m gone watching Strikeforce on the other hand would be a waste of money and time.

 Live UFC events my wife knows it’s guy’s night out, TUF watch when aired or watch taped. And to be honest there is no excitment watching guy’s fight for a meaningless status and the Strikeforce belts really mean nothing? I can watch almost any fights for free at my convenience For example if Rogers comes to the UFC I’ll go back and watch his last five or six fights for free or if someone say’s I think this guy is good I can do the same. Fighting for nothing is not exciting for to many fans there JJ.

by Puck Head on Aug 12, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UFC has over 200 fights a year over 50 hours of live events, and TUF to top it all off. More than all the other organizations combined!! Now thats HARDCORE JJ. Not to mention they have the fighters in the world. Watching Strikefarce is like watching affliction… pointless to say the least you have some talented fighters facing not so good fighters Mousasi against Babalu is probally the only fight that has two decent fighters but we all know Babalu would not crack the top five in the UFC and Mousasi has yet to prove himself against top contenders wich is the only real excitement basically JJ a jones vs coleman kind of excitment? The fact is you cutting down UFC MMA hardcore fans shows your ignorance, as there is way more comments on up- coming UFC fights as there is any other because UFC is simply more exciting to ANY MMA fan even replayed.

by Beaver on Aug 12, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention they have the best fighters in the world. *

by Beaver on Aug 12, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was too lazy to look the guy’s name up. It is Ishida. Not that any of these UFC-nuthuggers would know who I was talking about anyways. Melendez should be a household name for any hardcore MMA fan. He dominated Guida (one of my favorite fighters) in a Strikeforce match in 2006. And I disagree with you that the only relevant fight is Mousasi v. Babalu. Carano has always put on exciting fights and I expect that one to be action packed.

by Broncos1998 on Aug 12, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what I’m saying! Who cares? I love ufc its the best, but why not watch STRIKEFORCE? Ill be watching. I’ve seen the others, all except gugerty. Ill be fine w/that. I love having beers n watching live, great mma, so that’s what ill do.

by Daniel worby on Aug 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kudos to the UFC for showing three great undercard fights that I really wanted to see! Jon “Bones” Jones is a future MMA superstar. I’m glad I have another chance to see him in action.

I’m also really interested in seeing the Bonnar/Coleman fight.

I’ll be switching the channel to Strikefarce ONLY for the Carano fight.

by whatev on Aug 12, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow, thats pretty sad!

by kevin on Aug 12, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No thats reality kevin. I myself would watch if Strikeforce didn’t piss me off you know they know 99% of fans wanted Fedor in the UFC and they signed him anyway? We didn’t want to see him in Strikeforce thats a waste of time for Fedor what the F are they thinking so F@ck if they don’t want to listen to us fans the only thing us fans can do is simply not watch not like I would go out of my way if anything was going on Saturday night for them anyway but if I was around I might of watched but instead My TV will be on Spike if I’m home or not Strikeforce isn’t getting a dime from me and I know many of other fans feel the same way.

by Beaver on Aug 12, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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