Naw, I say Brown loses in the rubber match with Faber. Had Faber not busted his hand, he would have pwned Brown. I’m not a Faber fanboy. I was rooting for Brown. But it seemed obvious to me that the broken hand is what gave him the defeat. Faber kept up a fierce pace using only elbows and no real submission power because of the hand. Says a lot. Here’s hoping he doesn’t bust something next time, because I think he can take Brown.

it wouldn’t be a rubber match since the 1st two fights went to brown. but i agree with u, faber would have won that fight for sure if not for breaking his hand in the 1st. faber kept a competitive fight even without the use of his hand, and i think he hurt his other hand as well earrly in the fight. faber will get his title back when givin another shot

A rubber match would mean that Faber actually won one of the first two matches.

And no.. he won’t win. Brown is too strong for Faber at 145. He controlled every round and was dominating even before Faber broke his hand. Brown is incredibly tough.. he’ll eat Faber’s shots all day. I’d like to see them fight again just so that it’s 100% decisive either way, but I don’t think it would be any different.

where the hell are the UFC 101 medical suspensions and injuries [[COMMENT_CHILDREN_TOKEN]]#8230;common now.

it was in philly, same reason you didn’t get salaries

ahhh yes good call kevin my bad!!

He has to redeem that loss to get back into the p4p picture imo…….

I like his chances. Serra was a midget 5’6 and did decently in the 155lb range.

I meant top 10

Very true. I think he’d do very well but some of the bigger wrestlers will give him problems. There are a lot of great fights for him at 155. The UFC just needs to hurry up and fold the WEC totally into the company. Maybe then we could get a UFN every month.

We already have one almost every other month, and the WEC puts on events pretty much every other month – if not more often.

The UFC would not be able to absorb the WEC because they would then have too many weight divisions to properly promote and display thier fighters.

plus aside from 4 or 5 guys (Torres, Faber and brown), no one really cares about the lower weights. My wife woke up during the fight before Torres and asked why I was watching midget mma

LMAO.

seriously, that small guy against the guy who won, who was built like a midget!

Why wouldn’t someone care about the fighters in lower weight classes? I love watching WEC fights…a lot of the guys down there have some serious skills and the pace is always very fast. You don’t see very many guys gassing either so you know you’re gonna get non-stop action for the most part. There may not as many KOs cause some of them lack the power but you’ve got guys like Aldo who are small but are destroying guys left and right. Plus if you got rid of the smaler weight classes…where would Alex Karalexis fight? Everyone cares about him and Andy Wang.

I agree, they are exciting, I’m just speaking from a general consensus. If they were popular, they’d be played on a major network or ppv and be making major money. Non hard core fans are interested in heavier weight classes, it’s a fact!

My fav TUF moment of all time:

Andy Wang sobbing in the corner and BJ making fun of him.

Still giggling like an idiot now…

I think the WEC is awesome and when the UFC dominates Strikefarce the WEC will become a more dominant force. Personally, I love the WEC and it is a great organization

Take him down Andy. Take him down Andy. Andy, take him down. Andy? Take him down. Take him down Andy.

Haha midget mma much better than jenna jameson joke you tried ealier!! :D

bj is the man at 155 but it’s hard to consider him in the top 3 based on his whininess and the performances of the other 3, GSP, Lyoto, and A. Silva. Those are the top 3 imo…………..

Yes it does.

Do you know what P4P means?

I didn’t realize whininess is a criteria for p4p. lester, you obviously don’t get p4p if you say machida and gsp and fedor are on it but not BJ, he actually has fought in 3 weight classes, the others haven’t! I’ll tell you this, he cant beat GSP, but could beat 90% of the WW’s out there today, and won’t be beat at 55!

p4p means bj would be able to go up in weight and win as well, now maybe he could beat everyone but gsp who knows but p4p top 5 isn’t anywhere bj should be mentioned

silva
machida
gsp
fedor
nick diaz

should be top p4p rankings

Silva is a huge middleweight and good sized light heavyweight so I’m not sure how important the moving up thing is. BJ is as dominant in his division as GSP is. Do you honestly think that GSP would defeat BJ if he was a natural welterweight. It would be a war and a toss up in my opinion. No way in hell would he be able to outmuscle BJ and take him down. And this is coming from one of GSP’s biggest fans and not a tremendous admirer of BJ (as a person that is). BJ deserves respect and to be mentioned in the same breath as GSP, Machida and Anderson.

come on randy murders, if someone dominates their division, they are considered p4p best, never mind when someone has been a champion in 2 weight classes, moved up to a 3rd and would be competitive still at ww (while not able to beat GSP). Fedor could easily fight at LHW but doesn’t, some could argue that until the emergence of brock, HW was the weakest division… unless you’re counting fedor’s numerous wins against true MW’s as P4P! lol

Randy murders – Get the fuck outta here Nick Diaz. Fight someone serious than he can even be ranked top 10 in a class weight.

I agree Diaz is top 10, probably 7 or so. we debated this a lot this past weekend in philly!

Silva is not a huge MW. Remember against Thales he came in at 182 I think it was. That only makes him better in my opnion. He rules a division where he is mid sized at best and could rule as an under sized person at LHW but would never fight Lyoto
So I think it’s pointless to send Silva up to that division and beat the no.1 contenders and let Lyoto do nothing. I know it won’t happen but you can’t send Silva up to fight people like Irvin again. Not to take anything away from Forrest either but Silva needs to be fighting interesting match-ups where it can be argued that he could loose. Maybe Randy Couture, Sho-gun etc.

I say put him against the loser of Rampage/Rashad… he destroys both!

Silva cuts to middleweight from well over 200lbs. He definitely is not mid-sized at best.

I would put Diaz in the top 10.

P4P has nothing to do with going up in weight and winning. It’s a perception based ranking on who is the best (assuming everyone weighed the same). Fedor would smash Anderson Silva if they ever fought at 205 or some sort of catch weight, but he’s still ranked lower by most because he has fewer significant wins in the past couple years.

BJ losing to GSP doesn’t hurt his case much. If GSP moved up and fought Hendo, he’d get smoked. Should that hurt his case? And Nick Diaz belongs nowhere near top 5 P4P until he beats some of the 170 lb wrestlers of the UFC. Koscheck and Hughes would beat him down.. let alone GSP and Fitch.

the one argument I have against Machida, who i definitely respect and could easily see him dominating the division for a while, is that he has not fought many top guys, rashad, who has looked decent, did lose to tito no matter what anyone says, basically went to a draw with bisping, and looked very beatable against forrest… and thiago silva has always been a bit overrated in my book, gotta give him the beatdown he put on rich franklin for sure though… but i want to see how he holds up against guys like rampage, shogun, henderson before i start saying he is the best LHW ever

I agree, Brendan. Machida definitely has the tools to take out the top guys like Shogun, Rampage, and Luis Cane, but he has to do it first. He’s #5 on the P4P list for me behind Fedor and the other 3 UFC champs not named Brock.

If BJ and GSP were natural middleweights they would give Anderson Silva one hell of a fight. Imagine how many times he would have to hit Penn to knock him out. That would be crazy.

BJ would definitely be my #4!

how is fedor ahead of silva, silva has been ahead of fedor for over a year or 2..