UFC 101 recap and post-fight discussion for 'Declaration' in Philadelphia
by DrubySunshine on Aug 9, 2009 1:00 AM EDT
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The UFC’s first venture into the "City of Brotherly Love" was a successful one, with Philly fight fans coming together at the Wachovia Center to watch the highlights of UFC 101: "Declaration" — namely the lightweight title fight between champion B.J. Penn and number one contender Kenny Florian, and the light heavyweight pairing of Forrest Griffin and middleweight champion Anderson Silva, who moved up in weight for the second time in his UFC career.
The main event title fight between Penn and Florian saw "KenFlo" looking to finally earn that victory in a major fight — something he was unable to do in The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) Season 1 Finale against Diego Sanchez and again a year and a half later against Sean Sherk at UFC 64 for the vacant lightweight strap.
Penn looked to bounce back from his welterweight loss to division kingpin Georges St. Pierre and came in with something to prove to the lightweight division players.
Showing the balance that he is known for, Penn refused to give Florian a takedown in the entire fight and largely controlled each round. With about 12 seconds left in the opening frame, Penn rocked Florian, but time expired before he could finish the fight.
The second round saw Florian continue to press Penn up against the cage, but again, the Hawaiian lightweight refused to go down, demonstrating why he is one of the hardest fighters to earn a takedown against. With a minute remaining in the round, Penn landed a series of uppercuts that had to have scored well with the judges.
Florian again pressed the action against the cage in the third round, but aside from an elbow or two, caused little damage to the champion. With 30 seconds remaining in the third, Penn transitioned out and landed several clean strikes that seemed to sum up the fight well: Penn is the better fighter at avoiding damage, and when his opponent is least expecting it, he turns the tables on you.
Despite being criticized for gassing early, between the third and fourth rounds, Penn stood in his corner, breathing calmly through his nose. He looked like a true champion in the moment.
A minute 15 into the fourth round, Penn earned a takedown of his own. Finally the Philly fans could see two well-versed jiu-jitsu fighters at their best. Penn transitioned to full mount and eventually took Florian’s back, securing a rear naked choke with 1:06 remaining in the fourth round. It was a dominant performance against arguably one of the best lightweight fighters in the world.
And Penn leaves Philly a true champion.
The co-main event featured UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva — one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world — taking on the former light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin. And what a strange fight it was.
The two legends in the sport circled one another for the first minute, before Silva seemed to flip a switch and show that he had absolutely nothing to fear from his much larger opponent. After dodging several punches from Griffin, Silva stood still and called TUF Season 1 light heavyweight winner in to stand and trade with him.
Perhaps the biggest mistake Griffin could have made was to oblige, which he did. Silva was simply much too fast for his opponent and reacted as if he knew what Griffin was about to throw seconds before even he did.
After rocking Griffin with a right hook, Silva knocked down his opponent, who quickly got back to his feet with a smile on his face. But you could tell it hurt him … badly.
Seconds later it was much of the same, but from a straight left from the middleweight champion. Silva seemed to know the end was very near. So too did Griffin.
But yet, almost knowing he was making a mistake but too frustrated to do anything differently, Griffin came at Silva guns blazing — the same way Chris Leben did in Silva’s UFC debut, right before getting knocked out. It was a classic blunder.
Griffin threw a right and a left, running straight at Silva, who calmly dodged the shots and then landed a … bitch slap? It certainly didn’t look like a power punch, but it knocked Griffin to the ground, who sprawled out lazily, as if he was in a sparring session with a training partner.
As Silva stepped in to finish it, Griffin waived him off, which prompted the referee to step end and call the fight.
Equally as strange was the former light heavyweight champion’s exit. Almost immediately after the fight was stopped, Griffin jumped to his feet and headed quickly for the exit of the Octagon. When a UFC official tried to stop him, he was almost shoved to the ground by Griffin, who acted as if he wanted to be as far from the crowd as possible, seemingly from embarrassment.
I hate to say it about such a revered fighter, but it certainly seemed that way. Very, very bizarre ending.
Regardless, you can’t take anything away from Silva. The man seemed virtually invincible — it’s gotta be frustrating as hell to fight him. Let the pound-for-pound discussions begin! Silva is right back on top.
UFC 101 marked the long-awaited return of TUF 7 winner Amir Sadollah, who has been on the shelf from multiple injuries and hasn’t fought since June 2008. Perhaps it was cage rust — or perhaps referee Dan Miragliotta, who has a history of controversial early stoppages, struck again.
Either way, undefeated up-and-comer Johny Hendricks took advantage of the opportunity to fight a bigger name. Just 25 seconds into the fight, the two-time NCAA Division I wrestling champion landed an overhand left that set up a series of uppercuts that dropped Sadollah.
As Hendricks began to rain down punches, Miragliotta stepped in just as it appeared Sadollah had started to recover and was attempting to get back to his feet. The crowd booed the early stoppage to the point that Hendricks’ post-fight interview with Joe Rogan could hardly be heard.
While the stoppage might have been early, it shouldn’t take anything away from the former Oklahoma State University wrestler and 4-time All American. Now 6-0, Hendricks will certainly look to ride this momentum into the UFC’s stacked welterweight division.
Speaking of early stoppages, lightweights Shane Nelson and Aaron Riley had their chance at a rematch from their first meeting at UFC 96: "Jackson vs. Jardine" back in March, which ended in controversy just 44 seconds into the first frame. In fact, their first fight — which Nelson won via TKO — has been called one of the worst stoppages in mixed martial arts history, which prompted UFC president Dana White to call for an immediate rematch.
While the rematch was slated for the preliminary portion of the UFC 101, thanks to time restrictions, the fight was bumped to the main card. Unfortunately, it was an uneventful affair that saw Riley secure the victory via unanimous decision (30-27 on all three judges’ scorecards) thanks to some head kicks and better wrestling.
Ironically, most of the crowd’s cheers during the fight came in the third round when another fight — this one in the stands — broke out involving multiple people, at least one of which was a woman. All in a day’s work in the City of Brotherly Love.
In what is expected to be his last fight at middleweight before dropping to the 170 pound division, Ricardo Almeida took on Hawaiian fighter and TUF 3 winner Kendall Grove.
A third degree blackbelt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Almeida pressed Grove up against the cage early, looking to take the fight to the ground as quickly as possible. Earning two takedowns and a solid overhand right in the first round, Almeida continued pouring on the assault throughout the second round.
But "Big Dog’s" eagerness nearly got the best of him in the second, when Grove came close to finishing the fight with a deep armbar. Later in the round, Grove landed a solid uppercut, but Almeida pushed through.
Despite showing some wear and tear in the third round — no doubt from being outsized by the 6’6" Grove — Almeida continued to earn takedowns. The "Big Dog" looked to have the bigger heart than "Da Spyda", avoiding most of the Muay Thai striker’s knees to earn the unanimous decision (30-27 on all three judges’ scorecards) and end Grove’s two-fight win streak.
The UFC 101 main card got underway with a lightweight scrap between Kurt Pellegrino and Josh Neer. Pellegrino used his wrestling to secure the early takedown and stay on top of Neer for the entire opening frame. But "The Dentist" stayed busy from the bottom. Mid-way through the round, Neer secured an armbar, but "Batman" picked up his opponent and dropped him right back down on his head for what was probably the highlight of the opening frame.
The second and third rounds were much of the same, with Pellegrino securing top position and raining down strikes, and Neer throwing up submission attempts from the bottom. With a minute left in the second, "Batman" earned mount, which he transitioned into taking Neer’s back, but wasn’t able to finish.
As the fight came to a close, a frustrated Neer foresaw the inevitable — that his opponent simply outworked him by maintaining dominant position throughout the fight. With all three judges scoring the bout 30-27 in favor of "Batman," Pellegrino picks up his third win in a row and is now 6-3 in the UFC.
While not every fight on the card was the most exciting fight in MMA history, Philly fans seemed to lap it up. Hopefully this marks the first in a long line of UFC events for the fight-loving town.
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Bad luck Kenny. I cant wait for BJ/Diego. That will be sick.
I never doubted Anderson. I knew he was dangerous as ever. He made Forrest look BAD. And Forrest isnt bad. But he humiliated him. I honestly cant see any 185 or 205 guy who can beat Anderson right now. Im calling on UFC to make Anderson vs Lyoto. Thats his only genuine threat. But will prob never happen, I know!
Im glad I didnt have to pay for a ticket for 101 to be honest. ‘Phillie’ seems to be (to borrow a phrase from the Americans), douche land. And we basically had 9 prelim fights. Not a great event, and to be honest, overall, not exactly a night of ‘world-class’ MMA. Looking forward to 102 and 103. Now they look exciting!
Oh, and Dan Miragliotta is by far the worst ref in MMA. He should have his licence taken away until he learns how to referee properly.
And for any UK guys…anyone else think the ESPN coverage is naff compared to Setanta (RIP)? Very Bravo-esque. For a premium channel I have to pay extra for every month, I dont expect endless adverts at every millisecond break in the action.
Misses loads of commentry and fighter corner/round analysis and replays to instead be hawked Nintendo Wii, and car insurance etc.
In conclusion, 101 gets not quite a yawn, but a solid sigh. Bring on 102.
by UK_Chris on Aug 9, 2009 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
totally agree with you about the espn presentation of it, adverts between every round started annoying me. i honestly thought forrest could do it but i think he actually broke, u could see he realised that he had no way at all to win that fight, as soon as he threw the 1st kick and got hit you just saw it begin to end.
by hughes on Aug 9, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all i gotta say is ive been doing the rick flair woooo ever since bj sub’d kenny…i thought kenny was gunna go to sleep rather then tap at first 2………and anderson made griffen look silly
by JG on Aug 9, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought bj was done!! i was dead wrong, he impressed the hell out of me!
by shamo84 on Aug 9, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha!! the bj vs florian fight was fuc*in sick!! did you see how bj dismantles florian? and some of the wwe guys on here is accusing bj to be mentally weak lol, such laughable kids!!
and the forrest vs silva was FIXED!! god! what a lame ass FIXED FIGHT!! classless acting done by griffin..
by gaara on Aug 9, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How impressive was that Silva KO.
Forrest wasn’t faking anything. He got rocked 3 times! 3 times.
Think about the last time you saw someone get dropped 3 times in 2 minutes or less. I can’t remember one time. And this was by Anderson Silva. Hats off to forrest for staying aggressive but WOW.
Then BJ… All you Kenny lovers, what happened. BJ haters, what happened?
BJ won almost every minute of that fight, maybe he did win every minute. You guys who don’t understand strength and MMA make me laugh. GSP beat BJ because he had likely 30 lbs more of muscle. BJ in a 170 lbs frame only has 155 lbs of good weight, GSP has 185+ lbs of quality weight. Kenny thought he could GSP’ BJ by leaning up against him and trying take downs, but Kenny is no GSP.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone was talking about how bad BJ is and how lazy he is. Lets see, he lost to GSP super human 170 pounder in a wrestling match. Guess who else did: Alves, Fitch, Koscheck. Guys who are excellent wrestlers or weight 185+ lbs.
There is no shame in being taken down by a guy 30 good lbs of weight heavier than you.
Kenny memorable quotes:
I’m going to beat him skill for skill, round by round.
Maybe I will knock him out in the first round.
Come on Kenny. Be real. Every watches GSP dominate and figures that anyone can beat Penn.
Nope. Penn’s loses:
GSP
Matt Hughes (split, he beat hughes)
Lyoto Machida (205 lbs)
Pulver (split, he beat Pulver in a rematch) 7 year old loss.
So the only 2 guys he’s lost to that he hasn’t beat are:
GSP and Machida
STOP YOUR HATING! BJ! BJ! BJ!
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let it go bro, enjoy the moment, BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 9, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like I said, THE MASTER WILL KILL THE STUDENT. “I want BJ’s belt” my ass. Nice try KENNY
by TaPouT on Aug 9, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it when someone doesn’t pick BJ (or any other fighter) its called “hating”? Seriously, SOME of you BJ huggers (not that there’s anything wrong with that) get all bent outta shape when people dont pick him.
by Synyster on Aug 9, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, so I just watched the Silva fight the third time.
Here are the strikes for those they say Forrest faked it:
Rocked hard with right hook (3:05) DROPPED
Rocked with another right hook (2:58)
Rocked with a solid right hand (2:18) DROPPED
Rocked with a crisp right hand (1:41) DROPPED/GAME OVER
People need to understand that Forrest was hurt pretty bad from those first three solid strikes, the fourth one was like kicking open a vault after you’ve set off 3 sets of TNT. It pops easy at the end.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
question is now bj or sanchez, i think i’m going to take deigo in that fight, not sure how he’ll win it but i think his striking has improved to the point where it can easily match bj’s or even edge an advantage on it, he has better wrestling but not sure if its good enough to take bj down, i think with his intensity he can wear bj out, i’m very impressed with bj’s performace tonight but sanchez can tire almost anyone out, doesnt matter how good their cardio is. he also has a much better chin than kenny so has a much better chance in the stand up.
hopefully they wont wait to long to make that match, maybe 104-105 but its unlikely, more likley to be the new years show
by hughes on Aug 9, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ won every minute.
I’m talking about the people who said BJ was washed up and would be dominated.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where was all that weight that was supposedly gonna wear down Silva? Got smashed out by technical superiority. Yea i called UD for florian and am here to face the music. Besides Leites that was the only fight i picked wrong!
Now onto WEC, this weekend just seems to get better.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 9, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I can look on the bright side, since Kenny lost, we can enjoy ADAM G’s(BJ’s #2Fan) cheerful company for the next few weeks on MMAMANIA…instead of him disappearing for 3 months..lol… yr boy BJ did well… congrates!
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I called a BJ third round TKO… it almost happened.
I called a Silva first round KO… it did happen.
When above average meets great – great wins. The rest of my picks flailed and I’m too smashed to get into the details of how it all went down. That said, I’m patiently waiting for day1er and dtoto to post.
Cheers Maniacs, and I hope all the guys at the show had an awesome time.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 9, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont even like BJ but I give him props for fighting a good fight. He didnt own every minute but every major exchange went to him. Kenny did his best but it wasnt really close. Bring on Dirty Sanchez and the Bully. Cant wait to see how BJ does against them.
by NorthStar on Aug 9, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks DAVE, im cheery as a motha f*cka right now, cant sleep, waitin for the replays of the only 2 good fights on channel surfing . net, wanna see that RNC again baby!!!! BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 9, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey NameNotRequired, I called split dec for Florian, I felt he was an underdog and was unlikely going to win, but I went with Florian and hoped for the best! I don’t think Florian did that badly, considering BJ’s the best 155lbr in MMA History. IMO, Florian will comeback even better from this experience, but unfortunately will never beat Penn. I really doubt Maynard or Sanchez can do much with Penn either.
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ post fight interview:
“The strikes are so weak at 155”
lol. From being punched by GSP superman, to being punched by Kenny must be a WOW moment.
I forget how soft these 155’ers hit.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, i was there. this recap is on point. it was weird being at the event and not having any other perspective on the fight besides my own, but you confirmed everything i was thinking including the fight with that chick who was throwing hammer fists in the crowd. much respect to you mma mania. bj looked amazing, i was really impressed. and forrest… man. i dont even know hwat to say. that fight could not have gone worse for one of my favorite fighters, i thought he had nothing to lose, but that fight proved me wrong.
by an 8yr old boy on Aug 9, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah BJ’s strongest asset IMO is that he can take a punch better than anyone in MMA, Cabbage Carrera was a lot like that as well, just a lot less talented. I’m also realizing Anderson Silva is falling into that same category though…. something about a round head that can take hard punches? lol
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, but my “soft-core” MMA fan friends found the Kenny-BJ fight boring. They wanted more action out of BJ. I was explaining to ‘em that BJ is just stifling Kenny’s [futile] take down attempts.
by "The Negation" on Aug 9, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave – yea there was ton of betting value on florian given penn’s past despite this being the best weight class for him. It’s just the strategy that sucked. He tried to replicate that work the body and wear him out strategy. This would be predicated on him accepting that he was gonna give away the first few rounds and hope to put on a massive assault in the later rounds for a finish which is kinda ridiculous. I was hopin he was would his MT game from the outside especially the leg kicks and simple kicks to the arms so common in MT bouts to literally ware down his arms and take the speed of his boxing. Then work a tighter/closer game in the final rounds. I doubt that any of us expected him to try to GSP his way to a victory.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 9, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok so ill be the first to admit…i was pulling for florian out the frame, but man i gotta hand it to bj, hes a bad mofo. id pull for kenny again because i hate bj….but i would never bet that sweet cash against the prodigy
hey by the way anyone wanna talk about fedor…havent heard much about him latley, did he beat barnett??? i bet he signs with the ufc if he did win
by UltimateSquint on Aug 9, 2009 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ I was wondering the same thing about dtoto and there was another guy that was saying bj=blow job that have not faced up to the music. At least Namenot required still is posting….=)
Silva’s last punch may not have been that hard but man it was right on the money and add that to the fact that Forrest never seemed to really recover from the first knock down and the few shots he took from the 2nd knockdown/few he took while on his back and you got a nice clean backing away KO. It doesn’t take much of a shot from a regular person to get ko’d if you hit the right spot let alone someone like Silva. That lose was almost embarrassing for Forrest, Silva didn’t have his hands up for 90% of the fight and still took absolutely no damage. I think Silva is going to run through the 205 class as well. Which LHW even has half the chance. Forrest is as good as a LHW as there is and he got owned and embarassed. Forrest has fought the best and competed ad beaten the best and looked a fool in this matchup.
I think Silva has to be top of the list P4P he has proved himself in 2 weight classes with absolute ease. I think this moves him up above GSP in P4P. Till GSP starts fighting different classes I would imagine Silva is top P4P. I think Fedors status has been completly crippled by his opting to sign wih StrikeForce
……Opinions???
by Da Monkey on Aug 9, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffin is as good a LHW as there is? Lol. I said it before the fight and was totally proven right that Forrest is a can. Who exactly has he beaten to earn that distinction? Shogun with horrible knees? Mr. “I Don’t Ever Check Leg Kicks” Jackson?
Forrest did exactly what the UFC wanted him to do. Be a big name for Silva to knock out so he could repair his reputation.
Everyone sees one flashy knockout and goes crazy. I wonder if people are going to start ranking Silva above Machida in LHW just because of this fight—I really wouldn’t be suprised. Machida was always LHW and has gone undefeated in his career, 7-0 in the UFC. Silva has fought twice at LHW against two cans. To say that he is number one because he beat the great hype machine’s popular reality star is absurd.
Machida would beat Silva IMO. He’s like a more elusive Silva who has vastly superior wrestling and better jits.
by frosnt1 on Aug 9, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As good as a LHW as there is, is exactly that. He may not be a true top 5 LHW but he is a top 10 easily.
http://sherdog.com/news/articles/3/Sherdog-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-18558
I don’t think he is a can for dislocating his jaw! I do not believe most fighters can fight like that. To say it was one flashy KO is even more absurd then my comment. Tons of educated fans on these forums had Forrest for the upset. If you look up and down the posts nobody believes that he can beat Machida myself included. If you think it was just a flash KO and not the fact that he can fight with no defense just slipping and bobbing his way to victory not just against Forrest but Franklin (who is an amazing striker) and as well as others. Who on that top tenlist do you think can beat Silva besides MAchida??? No one…Therefore that is why I said he has got to be the top p4per right now. He is the only fighter out there fighting 2 weight classes, besides hendo. Whether u like it or not Forrest is a top 5 legitimate maybe maybe not, but Silva just owned him. AS undefeated as Machida is, so is Silva and Silva has fought better top 10 opponents.
Comment from sherdog why Silva is the #1 P4P…
At UFC 101 on Aug. 8, his 205-pound bout with Forrest Griffin will afford him a unique opportunity: a win over the former UFC light heavyweight champion would make Silva the first man in the sport’s history with top five-caliber victories across three weight classes.
But Silva is just flashy KO’s and Hype I guess…
by Da Monkey on Aug 9, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Da Monkey – I mentioned this in my post below but this win means he’s the only man to defeat top 10 opponents in 3 weight divisions. You can’t forget he was a top 10 WW back in the day. He surpasses Hendo by far in terms of cross-divisional dominance.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 9, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate the day after an event…thats when everyone jumps on and off fighters bandwagons. For weeks I have listened to fools bash Bj saying everything frm him being mentaly week, having no cardio..Kenny was going to eg kick him to death (lol)! I promised you all that BJ was going to dominate the entire fight. I would like to thank all you idiotic fans that wasted your money betting on Kenny cause for some reason you guys seemed to not realize that GSP and Kenny are 2 completely different people.hahaha..thanks to the idiots I got god odds on BJ so I wAS able to bet a lot of money and WIn the easiest bet of the year. I already knew that there wasnt anything Kenny coud do to BJ in this fight and VJ proved it! Next time I have to hear an idiot tell me about how bJ has no cardio and will lose the fight it makes it to the championship round, I wil flip out! That argument is proven to be outdated, get some new material if you want to hate on BJ. Like a champion, BJ paced himself, stayed patient throughout the fight, dominating kenny every second of the fight till he submitted him in the CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS!!!!
I like Kenny but I think he is somewhat over rated! Other than stevenson, who I also think is overrated, Kenny cant win a big fight! He gets dominated everytime he fights a world class opponent and he also hasnt proven to me that he can beat a dominate wrestler since JOe sillva protected Kenny, avoiding matching him up against the LW division’s top wrestlers.
Well, its the day after an event…so I will have to sit through all the haters jumping back on BJ’s nuts. Yesterday BJ was washed up, and he was going to get upset by Kenny….TOday, he is everyone’s favorite fighter again, and recognized again as an unstoppable force in the lightweight division….yo guys are Funny! If I were BJ, I would log on this site and tell you all to FOCK off accept for a handful of us!
Thanks to the idiots that bet Kenny for getting me great odds. THanks to BJ for dominating, and not making me sweat the fight out, winning me BIG MONEY at a time, that I desperately needed it!
by john G on Aug 9, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m feeling really smug right now, I told everyone since the fight was announced that Anderson Silva was still the best and the criticism over his last 2 fights was ridiculous. I also said that he was a lock and Forrest didn’t have a hope at winning. To all of those who bashed Silva for his last 2 performances, what do you all have to say about last night? That was the craziest fight that I have ever seen, Andy completely outclassed Forrest, bobbing and weaving to dodge all of his strikes and catching him with beautiful punches. I loved the showboating and the technique, Silva proved that he was always the best and shut up all of the doubters who bashed him for dancing and his last 2 fights. And to all of those who claimed that the fight was fixed, do you watch the sport? Silva rocked Forrest several times and he was already done before that last punch, which caught him on the chin by the way. You need to face up to the fact that Anderson Silva is the most dominant fighter in MMA today. Going up to LHW and destroying a former champion puts him back on the top of the p4p list.
BJ looked superb, I was worried before the fight about BJ mentally, as he seemed more bothered about the GSP fight than Kenny and spent too long complaining about the result. However when he started training with the likes of Fedor, Gegard and the Diaz Bros I had my faith restored. Kenny is a tough fighter but he wasn’t strong enough to take BJ down and that cost him this fight. BJ caught him with solid strikes and outclassed him on the ground. Again that will have shut the doubters up and I’m sure that there will be more bandwagon jumpers.
BJ-Diego should be a sick fight, Diego is stronger than Kenny and is more dangerous of his back so this should be a tough test, but if BJ keeps up his training and is still motivated at 155 he should win this again. Saying that if anyone can dethrone BJ at 155 in the near future, it’s going to be Diego.
by David W-S on Aug 9, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
namenotrequired…yeah I had seen that you had posted that so in my defense of the guy,frosnt1, I was responding to I posted the sherdog.com article and paragraph about him being the only mma fighter to actually do better then top 10, but to actually beat top 5 fighters in three classes. Thank you for backing me up on that and also for reminding me it at the same time =) I can’t understand some peoples arguments sometimes…I know things get emotional sometimes but facts are fact you know…Thanks for the intelligent posts in general…
by Da Monkey on Aug 9, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i completely agree, the last flash knockout you can see him look at anderson and actually start sitting up before he flops back down. silva took away all of forrests heart. this was a win win for forrest until he quit
by connor on Aug 9, 2009 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ! BJ! BJ!
I love BJ. Just hope he keeps his mouth shut in between fights so he doesn’t make the stupid comments.
BJ! BJ!
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA! bj is all that ive been expecting…
silva vs forrest is FIXED!! silly acting being done by griffin…
by gaara on Aug 9, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so dumb. i cant even believe this. please watch WWE and go away.
by Hardcase on Aug 9, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THE FIGHT WASN’T FIXED.
Please one of you fans get hit by 1 punch by anderson and see how many minutes it takes you to clear your head.
Forrest got rocked 5 times in 90 seconds! The last one wasn’t hard because he was woozy already.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Anderson dislocated forrest jaw early on.
“I heard his jaw was dislocated very early in the fight…then he took several more punches to the jaw. Apparently he can’t hear out of the ear on that side either. He left the octagon because he needed medical attention asap. At first they thought his jaw was broken, then said it was dislocated.”
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the nth time gaara, it wasn’t fixed. I guess you had money laying down on Forrest?
by "The Negation" on Aug 9, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope syd!! u know me man, i never thought forrest would win..but cmon!
by gaara on Aug 9, 2009 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really didn’t in the least bit think that the Forrest took a dive. It’s just that Silva is in the 4th dimension while Forrest is just here with us in 3D. Hehe!
by "The Negation" on Aug 9, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Jackson. Don’t even waste your opinions on these tools. They probably just transferred from WWE to MMA & are clueless. Forrest got rocked solid & for people to think that Dana or anyone else risking to fix a fight can happen? Well… let’s just say wouldn’t give a whole lot of time left on this earth if they started fixing these fights.
by neeko on Aug 9, 2009 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!1
ADAM G WHERE YOU AT?!?!?!
BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ!!!!!!!!!!
by *PrettyBoy* on Aug 9, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really enjoyed the Penn/Florian fight. I was on the edge of my seat until the very end. At some point in the third round I truly thought Florian was gonna win because Penn looked pretty tired but when I saw Kenny go down my hopes evaporated. A very good fight. Congrats to Penn. As for Silva, he is the in my opinion the #1 pound for pound with GSP right behind him. Fedor can have the third position for now but will never move to second or first place until Silva and St-Pierre are around. Penn rightly deserves the fourth position. I feel sad for Griffin.
by 2TimePennConqueror on Aug 9, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well guys, this won’t be my official write up (since I’m payinjg to use a computer), but overall great time at 101! The chick fight in the crowd was better than the 6 (yes 6 or more) decisions, but the 1200 (give or take) that I made on BJ and Silva, not to mention the quality of those two fights made up for it!
What a great group of guys, after you all hear about how well this trip went down, we will guaranteed need 2 suites next time! What unbelievable seats too! tty guys sun night or mon!
how bout my Sakara upset special!!!!
by kevin on Aug 9, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed when I read this result. I wonder if Leites is on his way out of the UFC after this result.
by NorthStar on Aug 9, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL at the cat-fight in the crowd. How were the maniacs? Too bad you didn’t meet john g ‘coz he flaked off the last minute. I guess he was just scared at the screen name bandit wanting to punch him in the flesh, that’s funny.
Well anyway, you better upload pics when you get back home to Cali.
by "The Negation" on Aug 9, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, if you knew half of what I am going through, you probably wouldnt believe me and you would never make a statement about me like that!
by john G on Aug 9, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comment by erik
2009-08-08 20:48:19
since when was sakara an upset?
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lmao, since he was a 3 to 1 underdog!
since letis just fought for the title,
need I go on?
by kevin on Aug 9, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of dissapointed tonight. I thought the Amir Sadalla fight got stop too early. He got robbed. I lost some respect for Forrest, I thought he was probably one of the guys that was going to give Silva a run for his money and got PUNKED!!!! BJ rules the Lightweight Division.
by Juan Varona on Aug 9, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man us MMA fans turn on a dime. Lost respect for Forrest? come on dude! BJ rules yes, but until he meets Diego Sanchez. I love BJ, but I think Diego is the cat to stop him. Once BJ wins, & this is IF he does, then we can say it. BJ TOP LW!
by neeko on Aug 9, 2009 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agreee, I’d sum up this event with a “solid sigh”. It was frustrating to me seeing Pellegrino, Almeida get decisions for laying on top of Neer and Kendall. Granted, Kendall didn’t do much to win, but Neer was throwing up submissions like crazy.
Anderson… that fight frustrates me too. How can a guy go almost a whole fight with his hands DOWN and not get hit once? And Forrest, wtf was up with him? Scary power displayed by Ando, for sure, but man. Whats it gotta take to make this cat lose? It WONT be Hendo, or Maia/Marquardt, although they deserve their chance to challenge for the title. Someone down below said Rashad, which is a posibility, Rampage isn’t versitile enough to win, but I’d like to see it.
BJ impressed me. I am a fan of both guys, but had money on Kenny (odds only). From the get-go, Kenny didn’t look like himself, like he was giving too much respect to BJ. I was really surprised to see Kenny’s lack of defensive jits. BJ PWND him on the ground. Good fight though, Fight of the Night IMO.
Sucks that Tamden lost, and LOL at Thales!
by Synyster on Aug 9, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Added on Rampage, I seriously think he will NOT be scared of Anderson, or back off when he gets a tagged once.
by Synyster on Aug 9, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage would get horribly killed by Anderson. A silva is officially a GOAT.
He was a top 5 WW
He is a top 1 MW
He is a top 5 LHW.
Who can anyone say has done more in MMA!!!
by NameNotRequired on Aug 9, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage has the chin, KO power, and brute strength to take Silva out, the problem is that SIlva is so down accurate and fast he only has to hit you with a back peddling jab to KO you ahahaha lol!
by Chadx23 on Aug 9, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is he top 5 WW? Not saying that anyone from WW could beat him, but why include that?
by Synyster on Aug 9, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I never said Rampage would win. I said I dont think he’ll be scared or back off. Forrest didn’t back off, but he still lost.
by Synyster on Aug 9, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He started off fighting at 167 and won the shooto world champ by ending sakurai’s 20 fight win streak. He was definitely ranked top 5 when the UFC attempted to get him to fight back at UFC 34.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 9, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could u repeat that Hardcase? I didn’t get that?
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said, “but still. you should have a nap.”!
by "The Negation" on Aug 9, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
167 pounds? How could he possibly ever make that doesn’t he walk around at 220?
by frosnt1 on Aug 9, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now he does but his body definitely grew overtime. Back then he was a small dude with similar technical wizardry but no KO power whatsoever. You would see him accumulate tons and tons of precision shots on guys and nothing would happen to them. Now he just melts guys with one hit. Very interesting career he’s had!
by NameNotRequired on Aug 9, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forrest just didn’t have any gameplan i think, i mean getting rocked that many times it wont take much to knock you out. but he ran-literally ran-into that jab
by connor on Aug 9, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so when rampage beats rahads ass….are you gonna delete this post??
by UltimateSquint on Aug 9, 2009 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is not that Florian lacked in defensive Jits, it is just that Penn is that much better then most people. Rogan was saying at he was taking control, he won the world championships with just 3 years of training. There is just no defense for that. Florian spent to much time trying to gas him by sticking a shoulder in his gut. BJ made him pay every time they broke the clinch. I love the ole school heal kicks to the liver to get Florian to break his rnc defense. He tried hard to not take his hands away from his neck but there are just only so many of those that you can take without trying to defend.
by Da Monkey on Aug 9, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ ALL THE WAY!!! although had doubts with a couple fights of his, i ALWAYS supported him.. win OR lose!!! TEAM HAWAII! bring the belt back home to hawaii!!! CONGRATULATIONS PENN! well executed!!!!!!!!
by boardRIDER on Aug 9, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup and im dancin and im dancin and im dancin yup yup! yup yup!! BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 9, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEAH!!!!
I WAS SO PUMPED UP ABOUT THE WIN!!!!
BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ!!!!!!
I DID LIKE HIS NEW GSP STYLE SHORTS THOUGH. HAHA
by *PrettyBoy* on Aug 9, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think the fight was FIXED!!
jj,intro,john,odamn what are your thoughts???
by gaara on Aug 9, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did NOT like anderson silva ever, but after this fight, i have much respect. WOW.
as far as bj vs florian, I think bj will be unstoppable, his boxing is the best i have seen. Takedown defense is superb. Nice work.
by donkeyballs on Aug 9, 2009 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Not the best night of fights. & do not call the A.S./Forrest Griffin fight FOTN. Give the bonus to fighters that need this.
by neeko on Aug 9, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anderson can beat any LHW except lyoto, he has stated in the past when he spars against machida, machida makes him look silly just like he does to evryone else. even the post fight conference, when dana said if he starts walking through LHWS he will match him up against machida, anderson said that its not just because they are friends, but because he wouldnt be able to figure out machida.as good as andersons standup is , machidas is on another level.
by dtoto on Aug 9, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is NO WAY in hell that Machida can beat Silva in a striking match. No Way in Hell!!!! Love machida, but Silva’s striking is the best in the league hands down.
by neeko on Aug 9, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
101 was awesome. you’re prob just a ken flo or griffin fan.
by AzCombat on Aug 11, 2009 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This breaks my heart to even say but it needs to be said… The Silva knockout almost looked like a set fight….
I am going to just act like I didn’t see that happen.
BUT THANK GOD PENN PROVED HE’S THE BEST!! WAR PENN!!!!!
by Mikey on Aug 9, 2009 1:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OH God, I thought the exact same thing. Something just didn’t feel right about the fight.
by justagirl on Aug 9, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I felt the same way. It was just like the Irwin fight. It just didn’t make any sense. The shots Forrest took looked like taps.
by Caknakker on Aug 9, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its always a very taboo thing to say that a fight was set up but I got to agree with you guys. That fight just felt off. I dont want to take anything away from the Spider because he’s probably the best striker in MMA but I know I’ve seen Forrest take bigger shots than that and not go down. And the way he left the octagon really didnt help either…
by SARS on Aug 9, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what Anderson does best.
Make his opponent look really bad.
by Natas on Aug 9, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you guys surprised? Forrest has a glass chin by LHW standards. Look at any of his fights – If he takes one serious shot, he can never get his mind right even if he gets time and space to recover.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 9, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re reaching guys! I’m no AS fan and have been highly critical of his last two performances, but that was awesome. He made Forrest look stupid out there, something Rampage couldn’t do in 25 minutes. The only guy who can stop Silva in the LHW division is Machida. Rashad or Rampage don’t have a prayer!
by attakdog on Aug 9, 2009 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I would love to see Machida vs. Silva it is the only fight that makes sense….But would be a boring fight.
by Mark on Aug 9, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh big time! It would stink the place out and doubtless start a riot in the crowd. Machida is the only one who is anywhere near Silva’s skill set, but their styles are sadly too similar to make a good fight.
by attakdog on Aug 9, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you not see the gash on James’ face after that fight??? and to say that either fight was fixed is insane. do you really think dana white is gonna risk the integrity of MMA to give silva a fix in what was supposed to be his “punishment” fight
by f*ck it on Aug 9, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too guys…the first time i saw it!! I just sighed in disbelief…i mean wtf? FIXED!
by gaara on Aug 9, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all u who say the silva fight was fixed just stop already! Forrest came out to bang and got BANGED!! Silva for president!!
by KAYLO on Aug 9, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wonder what roy jones thought of anderson
by HellaHectic on Aug 9, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha yeah i was thinking the same thing.
by belfort_fan on Aug 9, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where’s my post? omg! jones’ reaction? he laughed at it!! if silva puts his arms down even for a second while fighting jones..he will woke up in wonderland..
forrest vs silva is clearly FIXED!
by gaara on Aug 9, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stop saying it was fixed, im no fighter, i train but dont fight. if i stick my fist out and you run into it you’ll be a little off kilter, if i’d been beating you for three and half minutes you can easily get a flash knockout
by connor on Aug 9, 2009 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an event, this one grades out as a “D” at best. BJ was terrific. Florian is a very good fighter, but simply had no way to put BJ in jeopardy. Without BJ’s performance, the entirety of this card was pretty much brutal.
As for Silva/Forrest, one of the more bizarre fights I can recall. Forrest was as out-classed as I’ve ever seen a fighter be at this level. Save for possibly Machida, I’m questioning if there is anyone in the LHW division that can hang with Silva. While I doubt we’ll actually see it, it’s entirely possible Silva could render the UFC LHW division in a sense irrelevant, which is unbelievable to consider since it’s been the glamour division with the most depth.
by CL on Aug 9, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…. I cant beleive how easily he walked right through Forrest. I would love to see him keep fighting at 205, but he has shit to handle at 185. I love Henderson but anderson is going to knock him out this time.
I wonder whats next for Forrest. I mean he just lost to the best fighter in the world(yes better than Fedor). Thats not that bad although i did think he would do better than he did. Anderson is a beast and a very good sized 205er.
The Hendricks-Sadallah fight was a horrible stoppage. I was impressed with Pellegrino tonight. Neer is no joke and Kurt didnt seem to have a problem conrtolling him.
by belfort_fan on Aug 9, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew he would win, but damn. Poor Forest. I feel sorry for him. My wife was shouting “Run Forest, Run!”
by Chalkbot on Aug 9, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way, as far as hendricks stoppage, you guys seeing 5 punches not land in slow motion is a bit different than seeing 5 punches without an attempt to block at full speed live! The refs job is to protect the fighters, and last I checked, refs don’t see in slow motion!
by kevin on Aug 9, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amir was still on all four when the ref stoped it!!!! He wasnt lying there doing nothing, he was attempting to get to his feet. The ref did a bad job.
by belfort_fan on Aug 9, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasnt terrible but the ref could have waited a couple more seconds. It wasnt like Amir wasnt moving but if you dont want him to stop it dont get punched in the head a bunch and do nothing.
by NorthStar on Aug 9, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha, i was at a party and all the girls were rooting for him and one of em’ started shouting that. i think he was moving faster than sherk
by connor on Aug 9, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anderson = WOW
BJ vs kenny fight was damn good.
how about the fight in the crowd .. anyone got video of that .. it sounded crazy.
by 36chamberz on Aug 9, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well… wtf was that with the anderson fight. I know anderson got into griffins head and psyched him out 4 ways from sunday… but falling down after, what basically was a pulled punch, a mere tap, thats just too fishy.
Bj won fair and square, but he still is a bitch in my book. He has my respect as a fighter, but he’ll always be a little faggot.
by Eddy_J on Aug 9, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You could clearly see the snap of his neck from a punch landed on the button. Good KO.
by marshal on Aug 9, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bj and diego is going to be nuts… griffin looked off but then again who looks on when they fight anderson. i wish they would have shown the riddle fight.
by adh612 on Aug 9, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Roy Jones Jr is laughing you have to remember he punches alot harder than any MMA fighter
by Scott on Aug 9, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Depressing to watch Forrest get severely chumped here…..Forrest needs a rebound statement asap! As for Andersen…#1 P4P with GSP #2 for his sheer domination at WW. Never wanna hear about Fedor until he mans up.
As far as GSP-Silva goes, it shouldn’t. If he can toy with a MUCH bigger 205’er in Forrest..hows GSP gonna take him down? Only man that stands a chance, and its slim…is Hendo with his iron chin and wrestling, he just would have to avoid the submission.
by KingKong on Aug 9, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i’ve got to agree about gsp-silva now, if serra could tko gsp silva will destroy him, gsp has incredible speed but i dont think it would be enough, i do think he could take sliva down but sooner or later would get caught, he would have nothing on silva on the feet, i honestly think rashad is the 1 to beat him, not a fan at all but his speed, strength and wrestling might be good enough to do it, he also has the power aswell but its unlikely he would land it, i think rampage would get picked apart and tko’d and its pointless talking about machida-silva because it will never happen, who knows maybe henderson can do it, cant count him out in that fight
by hughes on Aug 9, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rashad? really? you mut not have seen the machida fight then.
by Egads on Aug 9, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP>Silva. Rashad has said that GSP outwrestles him in training and Shad’s no faster than GSP. Also, GSP has incredible control and good jits on top.
by frosnt1 on Aug 9, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forrest should fight the winner of the Thiago Silva-Keith Jardine fight to test himself. If he loses to either of ‘em, then that’s the time we can all say that Forrest is “on the decline”…
by "The Negation" on Aug 9, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Silva could honestly KO any heavyweight before they could get him to the ground… including Brock… Silva just too nimble on his feet and can punch backing up or moving sideways… too fast an accurate.
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
would be fun to watch, but it’d never happen. See the spider flying through the air…
by j_orange on Aug 9, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone where we were said they heard that forrest had his jaw broke and that was why he ran off. anyone hear any validation for that?
by newkoba on Aug 9, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Not that great night of fights. I knew anderson would win but i put 40 on griffin cause he was going at +300. BJ looked great and seemed to have great conditioning. Miragliotta needs to disappear. first he gets paid off by elite xc to have kimbo win and then he pulls off this lovely early stoppage. Hopefully 102 is good and then UFN 19 folled by 103.
by gritchie4 on Aug 9, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Miragliotta and lets not forget F**k Face Mazzagatti… Dana W. should hire a hitman and get a 2 for 1 deal
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow i know this is stupid but Griffin/Anderson looked fixed…… such a stupid statement but I guess thats how good anderson is, its like he is keanu reeves or something.
by Colin D on Aug 9, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man don’t mix up Keanu Reeves and Neo of The Matrix. Anderson Silva isn’t just Micheal Jordan. He’s Neo to the UFC’s Matrix.
by "The Negation" on Aug 9, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida n’ Silva are the only one’s that can give eachother a battle… unfortantely they probably have the star power to turn their noses up at the Dana n’ company at any offer or threat Dana uses.
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is way too much money to be made with Machida yet, and he needs to prove himself by clearing out the LHW division before giving us all the dream fight against Silva. But that would be the only person I can see even having a chance to beat Silva.
by sawyer on Aug 9, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a huge MMA and UFC fan, but I thought that the card overall was not very good.
by Muscle Dolphin on Aug 9, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew it’s wasn’t a great card to begin with, and it turned out that way, I was positive Forrest was going down, but I hoped Kenny would give BJ all he could handle. Kenny did a great job but BJ is at another level.
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva is no.1 p4p.
BJ is no.1 at 155 and no.2 at douchy post-fight interviews (right behind Lesnar):
“I love the fans”
(No Rogan, I’m not answering you’re questions, because I don’t care, f* u and f* everybody, I’m sticking to my talking point.)
“I love the fans and go see BJpenn dot com”
(PR talking point repeated, website plugged and no questions answered. Mission accomplished.)
by ftg314 on Aug 9, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Goldie made me crack up when he said BJ & Florian “Two of the classiest men in MMA!” HAHAHA! BJ Classy?! I luv u Goldie! but some of the sh*t that comes out of yr mouth!
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is Dana told Goldie not to say what he was really thinking about BJ. Good fighter, yes. Classy, never.
by ftg314 on Aug 9, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goldie also told Joe that BJ had positively secured the fight in the judges mind should it go to a decision… and that was at the end of RND 2!!! Joe politely corrected Goldie that was impossible since there was 3 RNDS left…lol
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny got pink socked
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Aug 9, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
silva was playing with griffin, griffin went running off in shame to go cry in a corner somewhere i love how all u silva fans jumped off the banwagon for this fight picking griffin to win, where are you guys now!!!!
by bryant on Aug 9, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really want to hear all the Anderson Silva naysayers talk about his lack of mental motivation, how he lost his fire, blah, blah, blah . . . how he’s so boring and unwilling to fight.
Cote . . . unwilling to challenge the champion.
Leites . . . was well aware of Silva’s striking.
Forrest tried his best, he lost in a simple cat and mouse fight.
by VEe on Aug 9, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty weak PPV. Upsides, Sadollah got owned, controversial stoppage or not, he got dummied. I won $10 on a friendly bet with a co-worker when Silva KO’d (really? KO’d??) Griffin with a weak right, and that was the highlight of the event for me. Griffin only helped prove his jaw is suspect.
by Belisarius on Aug 9, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was a little disapointed overall.
Andy is a monster. If him and Fedor fought, I’d bet the bank on Anderson.
Scary dude.
by Miketsi on Aug 9, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Silva has never been knocked down either from what I know. He can take a punch and that makes he exceptionally dangerous striker… I think he can take out any heavyweight anytime… the only question i have is can he take out Machida?… GSP better not fight Silva… Silva would KO him.
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
machida and anderson are on another level, but machida has been training karate since 3 yrs old, even anderson has said that during training sessions, even he cant touch him and machida makes himlook silly. its really a waste of time for shogun, or rampage to fight machida, he will make them look silly , just like anderson did to forrest
by dtoto on Aug 9, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shut the f*ck up, your opinions arent valid on this site, “BJ PENN WONT WIN A SINGLE ROUND!” REMEMBER THAT? “BJ PENN IS LAZY!” REMEMBER THAT? “ADAM G HAS NO CREDABILITY!!” . . . NO, you have no credability and you’re a shmuck! BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 9, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Penn is usually quite lazy. You can’t blame people for saying that. Dana White said that. Somehow, that message got through and he’s training a bit again.
Instead of bashing people saying BJ is lazy, you should thank them for pushing BJ off his steak.
by ftg314 on Aug 9, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam G if you are gonna post you should really have a point. lol. Way to stay loyal to your fighter. Good win for BJ but it only gets tougher from now on.
by NorthStar on Aug 9, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope, f*****************ck dtoto!!!!!!!!!!! dude said so much sh*t about me that had nothing to do with BJ, im barely scratching the surface! BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 9, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NorthStar it sounds like Dtoto and Adam G. have some history there and Adam’s point is that he’s returning the favor… and Northstar I don’t know that it gets any tougher for BJ from now on… I mean Sanchez and Maynard?… I actually think Maynard has a better chance than Sanchez because he’s really a big 155lbr and incredibly strong. Maynard can has a chance at taking BJ down and doing some lay n’ pray, but I don’t believe he can do it successfully enough to keep the pressure on like GSP in the least. Diego defintely can’t take BJ down and if he engages in the standup BJ will cut him up. The guy that can beat BJ at 155lbs hasn’t been found yet. Same goes for GSP at 170lbs and Silva at 185lbs.
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup Witness right here ma brah f***ck that is right. Adam G you deserve to say what you want ma brotha. Shut down all BJ hatuzzzz!!!! right now! BJ does what he does and he does it well. So play on playa!!!!
by Gotta Luv haters on Aug 9, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ! BJ! BJ!
Anderson #1 P4P
GSP #2
Fedor #3
BJ #4
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
play on i shall, and wheres “The Dragon” at . . . Mr. Predictions himself! “The fairy” is more like it. but at least you didnt get personal with me like dildo-to did BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 9, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could see Silva just slow down after he taunted Forrest to come forward and fight. It amazes me how calm and slow he is. The fight did seem a little off, but Silva has done that to everyone he has fought. He is great as a counter puncher, just staying out of range and then coming in with pin point accuracy. Did you see him catching every single jab Forrest threw, it was like he got his hand there before Forrest even threw the punch. He is scary because of his calm in the ring, and his accuracy when he does go on the offensive. We are all watching a once in a lifetime fighter!
by sawyer on Aug 9, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave A I know I was just razzin Adam G a little. I saw some of the comments directed his way.
As for BJ you never know what going to happent thats why they fight. BJ might beat both Sanchez and Maynard but I think both fights would be great to watch.
by NorthStar on Aug 9, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will admitt i was wrong about bj, thought kflo standup was at the next level. He made kenny look bad, which i didnt think was possible. bj is the best lw in the world, it wouldnt be hard to be a bj fan, if it wasnt for the venom he spews from his mouth, if he knew how to conduct himself, with class. bj great fighter, terrible human being
by dtoto on Aug 9, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually adam g most of the experts on espn live after the show like coture and bonner, thought kenny was winning the fight 2 rounds to 1 going to the fourth, it was a close fight, if it was a 3 rounder kenny might have got the decision, but i have to hand it to bj, he had to win this fight to prove to me he is the best lw in the world and he did that, i would be a bj fan, but as a human being he is such low class, and the venom he spews from his mouth is too much, i did sense a much humbler bj penn after the fight, so maybe he is changing after the backlash he got from fans for being a total jerk in the past
by dtoto on Aug 9, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
#1.. Pelligrino/Neer should of been stood up ATLEAST 5 different times throughout the fight.. How long has Kurt been training with Guida?
#2.. Amir/Hendricks was horrible, enough said
#3.. Is the UFC trying to set up Silva/Jones Jr or something? Forrest would never do what he did tonight. So sad to see.
#4.. Kenny didnt do enough to make BJ gas. Holding him against the cage for 5 minutes wont do it.
AVERAGE CARD AT BEST..
by Nick Diaz 209 on Aug 9, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please re watch the fight. Forrest got rocked 4-5 times by power shots in 80 seconds.
I’m not sure if you have been rocked before, but you don’t recover in 10 seconds from a Silva punch. You are a bit woozy for a few minutes.
Multiply it times 5 and you are in trouble.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don’t make us question if these fights are pre-determined/fixed… i.e. silva vs. forrest. when has anyone had to questions forrest’s heart?!?
by Pizza-Junkie on Aug 9, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
silva will beat gsp if they fight. maybe evjen beat him badly. it is silly to say silva would beat lesnar. it would never happen and he ccould not make up for all that size. its is a time where all of the champions have established there spot. i hope that the super fights stop and everyone stays in their division. let new blood come and esablish. a year ago we were bitching about belts changing every ppv. that is not happening anymore….for a while.
by deadnik on Aug 9, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Silva could make up the size, but lets say Silva is super elusive and dodges all the takes downs while landing some crisp shots.
NOT impossible.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happen to the dumbass prediction he said Kenny this Kenny that but you know what Kenny got his ass handed to him by THE MASTER!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA!!! Where is all the BJ haters tonight???
by Gotta Luv haters on Aug 9, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAAHAHAHA.. yeah, talk now, BJ haters! haha.
the STUDENT IS “STILL the STUDENT!” LMAO
by boardRIDER on Aug 9, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could clearly see Bj was on steroids. I have no proof but it’s my opinion that he cheated. Also, I think he took a pill to make himself sweat grease. That was obvious.
by 2TimePennConqueror on Aug 9, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats obvious is you’re a t o o l BJ BJ BJ!!! . . . And you obviously arent Kenny Florian huh “2timepennwhatever” = ) BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 9, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, BJ was definately on steroids, but that’s just my opinion.
And did you see how Kenny couldn’t take Penn down? That’s because Penn was greased up. I mean, could there be another explanation?
Hopefully mamma Florini will talk to the commissioner.
by ftg314 on Aug 9, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate is self destructive!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Where you at ma hatazzzzz!!!!!!! We love you guys… No, really we doooo!!!! HEEEHHHEEEE!!!
by Gotta Luv haters on Aug 9, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing’s changed.
Penn is still lightweight champion.
Adam G still gets upset when he sees my screen name.
Same ol’ same ol’
by 2TimePennConqueror on Aug 9, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
= ) alllll good baby, all good. This is what my happy dance looks like . . .
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 9, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ! BJ!
Don’t worry. GSP did grease, he just would have won anyway.
Steroids is stupid talk. BJ even said he was dumb for saying it again. BJ has a big mouth, what can we say?
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im glad to see im not the only one who thought the Anderson/Forest fight looked fixed. I mean come on something was just not right about that. Did Anderson really hurt him or get in his head or do you guys think something was fishy about that fight?? This is honestly the first time in the UFC where i seriously am questioning if something was up. What do you guys think ???? please tell me i am crazy
by Antdogg1110 on Aug 9, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I hate even saying it but it looked fixed. I hope I am wrong though & if he is just that good then I think he is God.
by Mikey on Aug 9, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please go watch the fight again. 5 power shots in 80 secconds. UFC uses thin gloves, not like boxing where they use pillows.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forrest was stunned earlier and never fully reovered, he’s never had a good chin. I think his chin has gotten weaker since the Evans fight. When forrest got hit he lost his equalibrium and had that glazed look, very difficult to fake… Forrest just can’t take a well timed punch, nor can he survive several small accurate ones… he didn’t take a dive, it looked real.
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Forrest realized about 2 minutes into the fight he was severely outclassed. The last punch stunned him, but he was simply looking for a way out. Once he waved Silva off, the reality of it all hit him and embarrasment set in. Definitely not his finest moment.
by CL on Aug 9, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. It was pure embarassment. Silva obviously had him, but wasn’t finishing it in an effort to make it an entertaining fight. I believe he was honestly trying to make good with the fans for his last performances. Unfortunately Forest just felt humiliated. Silva was passing up opportunities to finish and offering to help him up when he fell down. I felt like Forest’s last charge at him was basically him begging Anderson to knock him out so he could save face, and when he basically bobbed his head a little to dodge all of it and landed a crisp jab with no effort whatsoever, he essentially won by humiliation.
by Chalkbot on Aug 9, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t a dive. He had enough and was rocked earlier.
He basically didn’t want to stand anymore with Silva. Part quit/part rocked.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I felt really bad for Forrest, a former Champion, that was really embarressing, he had no chance whatsoever’… it must be difficult talking about getting the belt again when there’s a guy like Silva in yr weight class, not to mention Machida as the 205 belt holder. He’s just soooo’ much better than the rest of the pack. If Silva fought Rampage at least Rampage can take a shot and would be game before he was KO’d. Rampage may also have a shot at taking Silva down for a little lay n’ pray to prolong the inevitable.
by DAVE A on Aug 9, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, since he didn’t even break a sweat, can we assume Spider v Hendo in Nov/Dec? And I can smell a Fight Night main event of KenFlo v The Carpenter in the future.
by Mark on Aug 9, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was going for Griffin but c’mon it’s silva. I knew BJ would beat Florian.
Early stoppage on Amir. He was down, but then he got hit on the back of the head like 4 times and was in the process of standing up when they stopped the fight. Dan sucks as a ref.
Great prelim fight seeing Roop beat. Good fight. Once again I cant stand Neer.
by RiverHorror on Aug 9, 2009 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and are nowhere to be found after all the ish talk of BJ. At least man up and say you were wrong. So many people talk ish on this site and never man up afterwards. They disappear for weeks, days, or comeback with new names. I hate being wrong but it happens and you need to own it =)One of them was saying that they could name 20 or 30 better 155#s that are better then BJ. That is just crazy talk!
by Da Monkey on Aug 9, 2009 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This event felt more like a Fight Night event than a PPV. It was A LOT of prelim bouts. I could not get that excited about any of the pre-main event matches. There seemed no narrative there.
BJ is cleaned out the division but for Diego, and, in my opinion, that should have been the match. K-Flo is great, but like Forrest, their opponents were on another level.
Lyoto vs. Silva to me is more interesting than GSP vs. Silva. Only because I think Lyoto is the only one who can seriously challenge Silva at this point. GSP hasn’t really done a lot of up and down with his weight. I think GSP’s middle weigh debut is still at least a year away (if it happens at all.)
Lyoto/Silva is not happening any time soon either, as the Lt. Heavyweight division is so massive in the UFC. I wouldn’t even me surprised to see Chuck come back! Dana’s gotta know that that’s money. In fact, all of the Lt. Heavyweights are major draws, even when they lose.
My prediction: Wandy vs. Forrest in 2010.
by Jack Bochs on Aug 9, 2009 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SO glad to see that silva is back to his old ways, he made forrest look like a clown, that was just straight domination
Pumped to see bj/diego, that will be a sick fight, ufc 106? just a guess
those were the only 2 fights i really cared about on this card, but i must say i love live mma no matter what, good fights all around
and the amir/hendrix fight was a FAIR stopage
by child on Aug 9, 2009 1:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair stoppage? Plz tell me what hallucinogens are you smoking, because if your judgement is impaired this severely… I NEED SOME OF THAT SHIT NOW!
by Eddy_J on Aug 9, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you dont want it to get stopped, you shouldnt get uppercutted 3 times, then drop to the floor and leave your arms on the ground while your opponent unleashes on you. go watch it again, he was not grabbing at hendrix’s legs, he was not pushing himself up, you could almost say he “wasnt intelligently defending himself”
by child on Aug 9, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So my question…Who looks like the biggest idiot of the night? Forrest for running out of the ring like the guy who got his chain stolen by Debo in Friday “My Grandmama gave me that chain!” Rob Drysdale for his idiotic take on the fight after not training with Silva? or Mirgliotta for his terrible stoppage?
by Da Monkey on Aug 9, 2009 1:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gotta agree with everyone about the forrest/silva fight feeling weird from the getgo. I’m not saying it was fixed, but… it was probably the strangest FEELING fight I have ever seen. I’m not quite sure what to make of it. Glad that BJ and Kenny didnt disappoint.
by ryan on Aug 9, 2009 1:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who thinks the Silva/Griffin fight was fixed is an idiot!! Watch the fight again and you will see Silva do what he does best and thats dominate! Forrest didnt have a chance before they stepped into the cage! Everyone knows that Griffin is a gamer but his style and anyone else who tries to exchange with Anderson will get the same thing! Cmon, he hurt Dan Henderson and nobody does that, so how can you question his power! The only fight for him at 205 is against Machida and I dont think he can handle Silva!
by flexruger on Aug 9, 2009 1:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I say Rampage or Rashad face Silva next. If Rampage beats Rashad, then put Rampage up against Lyoto. Then if Rashad wins, either one could face Silva. I doubt that Rashad facing Lyoto anytime soon would be a big draw, but if he were to face and defeat Silva, getting another crack at Lyoto would be very possible. Thoughts?
by RyanHobbs on Aug 9, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
**These potential match ups are obviously after Silva faces Hendo. This fight could happen very soon. I hope Hendo ground n pounds Silva out.
by RyanHobbs on Aug 9, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forrest now gave a whole new meaning to the phrase " run forrest run!!"
by bryant on Aug 9, 2009 1:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow cant believe how good silva is. I think outside of Brock, there isn’t anyone he couldnt dominate if he wants to. Not that Im a Brock nuthugger but I just think his size and skill set is what would keep him in the fight, I still think somehow silva could pull it out. Would love to see silva destroy fedor. I completly underestimated silva in everyway, I was completly wrong about this fight never expected it.
by Drew on Aug 9, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
someone already spotted forrest running past ohio on his way back to vegas, he cries when he wins, cries when he loses
the tim slyvia of the light heavyweight division
by bryant on Aug 9, 2009 1:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you think about it, Lesnar, Machida, Silva, GSP and Penn could rule their divisions for a while.
Who will be dislodged first? Lesnar? Maybe. Anybody else? By whom?
by ftg314 on Aug 9, 2009 1:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see Machida defend the belt for a while before we put him in that company.
by Mammas Boy on Aug 9, 2009 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya know, Machida HAS beaten BJ PENN before… you can google it, it wasn’t a KO or submission, but he did go the distance and clearly beat him. So, I think he does belong in that company. Also he made Rashad Evens (the champ at the time) look just as bad as Silva made Forrest look, he just did it for longer than a few minutes in the first round. Personally, I do not think anyone @ 205 can beat him as long as he doesn’t pull a GSP and let his guard down.
by Baboon on Aug 9, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He beat BJ at openweight. And during that fight he weighed somewhere around 220 while BJ weighed something around 180. That is a huge weight difference that is someone who cant even be a Middleweight fighting someone at Heavyweight. It is amazing that the smaller guy managed to take it to a decision.
by Jimbob on Aug 9, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only guy I see win over The Spider is Machida
by Il Nino on Aug 9, 2009 2:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only guy I see beating Machida is The Spider. This fight should happen.
by RyanHobbs on Aug 9, 2009 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah even anderson has stated in the past that when he spars against machida, lyoto makes him look foolish, even post press conference he kept shaking his head when dana said if he keeps walking through lhws he would match him against machida. he said it wasnt because they are just brothers, but also he seemed to have a great deal of doubt if he could beat machida.
by dtoto on Aug 9, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Silva’s comment about he and Machida being years ahead of other fighters looks not too far fetched. Again, Silva made another fighter look silly. That last exchange was pretty impressive with Forest throwing punches at Silva who had his hands down and simply avoided Forest’s punches with head movement and then throws a well placed punch to Forest’s face while moving backwards. Forest looked slow, and now has a questionable chin and seemed pretty quick to give up (where’s the supposed toughness). And what’s with running out of the ring like a little baby…..poor sportsmanship in my book. I like Forest but this showing adds some tarnish to him as a fighter. No doubt he was clearly outclassed ….
by sudnvictory on Aug 9, 2009 2:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really liked how the UFC kept the pace moving by not doing fighter “roll-in packages” and post fight interviews for the first three fights. The pacing seemed better where it usually seems like it takes forever between fights. This was also good because it allowed for an extra fight to be included in the main broadcast. Anytime we can get away from watching the same scripted “I don’t like this guy, I can’t wait to get in the cage” BS and also the Joe rogan post fight " you did this in there" and the fighter not answering the question or giving some other stupid answer about fighting with heart or how tough his opponent is.
by derreck on Aug 9, 2009 2:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MARK MY WORDS VITOR WE BE THE ONE TO CRUSH THE SPIDER
by real_eyes_and_earz on Aug 9, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He has to get throug Rich first. That is no easy fight. Rich has great striking.
by RyanHobbs on Aug 9, 2009 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you dont know enough bout Vitor
by real_eyes_and_earz on Aug 9, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know an old man named coture schooled him 2 times.
by dtoto on Aug 9, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that old man named coture wasent that old at the time… he was in his prime, today he would get crushed today by vitor… but tell u what wont happen vitor vs. silva cause HENDO will beat him up……
by LOCAL BOI 808 on Aug 9, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate that people are saying that Silva vs. Forrest was fixed… get a clue, Anderson Silva from any angle with either hand HITS LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN…. nuff said
by Gankaho on Aug 9, 2009 2:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No kidding.
Silva punches hard. The people who think it was fixed haven’t watched many fights. Forrest after 4 solids shots in 80 seconds is not like a fresh forrest. The last punch wasn’t super hard but the damage had been done and Forrest was already hurt.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forrest dislocated his jaw, just read:
“I heard his jaw was dislocated very early in the fight…then he took several more punches to the jaw. Apparently he can’t hear out of the ear on that side either. He left the octagon because he needed medical attention asap. At first they thought his jaw was broken, then said it was dislocated.”
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am so pissed. BJ was supposed to lose this fight, but once again he has proven all the haters (including myself) wrong.
After he crushes Diego and Maynard BJ should move back up to 170 and avenge his loss to matt hughes.
by spitforce on Aug 9, 2009 2:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson Silva = Accuracy, Precision, Power, Strength, Speed. What more can you ask for? He just made Griffin look really bad. That’s what good fighters do to their opponents.
by CaptainLazy on Aug 9, 2009 2:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Forest Griffin made Travis Lutter look very good tonight.
by nobogy on Aug 9, 2009 2:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what is really stupid is how the griffin vs silva fight is going to get top ten knockouts most likely. wich is so stupid. the only way to think it wasnt rigged is if you are a silva fan.
forrest comes out swinging, silva dances around with his hands down,(which you should be able to hit him if he does that,honestly? he couldent hit him once?obviously on purpose)hits him with three easy jabs that knock him down. he jumps up, without resting comes swinging, gets knocked out with a quick right jab anyone could have eaten withe no problems,and falls to the ground.NOW HONESTLY when would forrest griffin WAVE HIS HANDS AND SAY HES HAD ENOUGH???? NEVER!!!!! its rigged,fixed not even real.then forrest runs out of the ring.now why would he do that? has that ever happend before?in his book its all about being a man.he would call you a pussy to leave like that.then at the post fight confrence,silva says forrest is so good and to respect him.WTF??? STUPID STUPID STUPID
and rigged
by austin on Aug 9, 2009 3:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From what i heard Griffen had his jaw badly broken from the first punch that knocked him down so was in extreme pain when he got hit in it again and dropped for the final time that is why he waived his hands and said he had enough.
by GSP4Prez on Aug 9, 2009 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva did the no hands, not being touched to Franklin 2 times. So it does happen. ACtually Ithink he did it to Leben as well. He actually does that look ma no hands thing often to bait you into the exchange. Forrest has a dislocated jaw, was that fixed as well. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxingandmma/5998996/Forrest-Griffin-camp-reveal-dislocated-jaw-as-Anderson-Silva-contemplates-Lyoto-Machida.html
He got bashed 3 times and it doesn’t take much to KO a person, let alone a person who has had their cage rattled 2 times already in 2 or 3 minutes. No fix just Silva lught years ahead of the comp.
by Da Monkey on Aug 9, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva purposely ate a shot or two just because that’s occasionally what Silva does. If it were fixed, he wouldn’t have purposely gotten hit. And whenever Forrest gets knocked down like that, he does that flailing type of shit on the ground.
by ballhawkdawk on Aug 9, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forest Griffin made Travis Lutter look really good.
I want to see someone else get Silva down again.
Can Henderson do it this time?
by nobody on Aug 9, 2009 3:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only arguement of this fight being fixed I would have to say, is the issue regarding fedor. DW(and zuffa) were enraged about the hole issue so to smash idea of fedor being p4p best fighter, he exploited Asilva (because thats one of his biggest arguments when the topic is brought up. That Asilva or gsp is p4p top fighter) he probley forced Ailva to make an example out of forrest. Also because of the resent speculation regarding Asilva on his last 2 fights. I doubt DW would even taken the risk of asking forrest to throw a fight, forrest probley had a good grasp of the gravity of the siduation (regarding fedor and Asilvas last 2 fights) or he walked into the fight knowing this, so he came into the ring scared. You could see it in his facial expressions. I strongly belive this because UFC smashes on all compition at any cost, they were disappointed with Asilvas previous preformaces, and this was a good opportunity to detour fans away from fedor issue, The UFC company is a capitalist big coperation wallmart of sports. basicly and if you are a die hard MMA fan you know what im talking about. So yes in a way the fight was fixed but off handly. Check out www.myfights.net/forum if you liked this post and want to discuss intresting mma events
by student on Aug 9, 2009 4:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
florian is too weak to take down bj and even if he could bj’s jui jitsu it way better than florians. florian should just shut his mouth and fight more low end competitors to make himself look good. diego will beat bj when they fight because diego’s striking is top notch now and his ground game is very good plus hes also insane in the mind…………silva embarrased forrest and if silva fights machida hes not going to be egged on by silva like forrest was machida will take his time no matter what antics silva pulls during the fight and mothodically finish him off like all of his previous 15 opponents
by diego "nightmare" sanchez on Aug 9, 2009 4:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson Silva is not from this planet. Inside the cage, things must look half speed to him. I’d like to see a Henderson rematch but there’s no reason to believe the outcome will be different. Penn, GSP and Silva are hall of fame guys we have the pleasure of watching during the height of their careers.
by Mammas Boy on Aug 9, 2009 5:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly who is going to dethrone any of the current champs? Would have to say the 5 current champs certainly all seem unbeatable at the moment and the only interesting matches would really be Silva vs Machida (won’t happen cause they won’t fight each other) or Silva vs GSP (I thought GSP would have a good chance to be able to take him down and control him but after watching this fight I’m second guessing whether GSP would really stand a chance).
by GSP4Prez on Aug 9, 2009 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
REALLY TRUE.
THE CURRENT CHAMPS SEEM UNBEATABLE.
by *PrettyBoy* on Aug 9, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find it funny that Griffin can take uppercuts from Rampage but not a jab from Silva.
by MaximumSpaniard on Aug 9, 2009 5:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The athletic commission should embark on a full scale investigation into this stinkeroo.
a) this “fight” was so obviously a fix. Griffin “went in the tank” without the slightest effort to make it look legit.
b) I don’t know if this “fix” was to cover a big time betting line or if this is just compelling evidence of the UFC’s intention to proffer “works” as in professional wresting. If the latter, then this promoter should be injuncted from representing these as sporting events and instead be compelled to present them as “entertainment” as professional wrestling is. The Ken Shamrock and Brock Lesnar “acts” should have been obvious heads up to us all sooner.
c) it comically ironic that there’s very real evidence that Anderson Silva is practically a “sissy” , a non athlete in the boxing ring where his professional boxing record is 1 – 1.
d) shame on Dana White for taking our moneys
by Brutal Truth on Aug 9, 2009 6:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude. Griffin broke or dislocated his jaw early on.
He couldn’t hear out of one ear by the end of it.
You don’t watch MMA obviously because those strikes were hard.
Griffin isn’t a faker.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The athletic commission should embark on a full scale investigation into this stinkeroo.
a) this “fight” was so obviously a fix. Griffin “went in the tank” without the slightest effort to make it look legit.
b) I don’t know if this “fix” was to cover a big time betting line or if this is just compelling evidence of the UFC’s intention to proffer “works” as in professional wresting. If the latter, then this promoter should be injuncted from representing these as sporting events and instead be compelled to present them as “entertainment” as professional wrestling is. The Ken Shamrock and Brock Lesnar “acts” should have been obvious heads up to us all sooner.
c) it comically ironic that there’s very real evidence that Anderson Silva is practically a “sissy” , a non athlete in the boxing ring where his professional boxing record is 1 – 1.
d) shame on Dana White
by Brutal Truth on Aug 9, 2009 6:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened to dtoto? he’s been talking shit for weeks about how bj is washed up, and over rated. Now he says nothing.
Whats up now?
by vinrex7 on Aug 9, 2009 6:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i will admitt it i was wrong about bj, thought kflos standup had improved to the next level. bj is the best lw on the planet, what makes it hard to be a bj fan is the excuses, and garbage that comes from his mouth. if he wouldnt act like a douche i would be a fan also. great fighter, terrible human being.
by dtoto on Aug 9, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ is a monster at 155lbs. WOW!!! HE look great and in shape. Kenny looked like he was more gassed than BJ.
BJ please stay at 155 and clean out the division. No more fighting GSP.
by Skelow on Aug 9, 2009 7:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ slayed the student. gotta love it. delighted. what the hell was that from forrest. that was just embarrassing. he got knocked out by a jab. nd i love forrest. wanted him to win but that was just terrible. class performance from silva doh.
wandy vs silva next come on
by Stonecold on Aug 9, 2009 7:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know everythimg said is pretty acurate; as for machida silva, thats not impossible cuz president all say it dotmatter if ur friends or from a same cout. if ur picked to fight ugotta fight….i think silva has only 2 fights left n i think 1 more person has to fight b4 a title shot in 205. ederson will give him a good fight nd time around tho…i dot care what u say……bitches
by Ruda on Aug 9, 2009 7:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dan miragliotta…however you spell his name has to go down as the worst ref in UFC history. Well-known for stopping fights far too early and in general being a clown. He should not have been trusted with the main event after how he screwed amir over.
by Jakizzle on Aug 9, 2009 7:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok Just seen the video of the Silva vs Griffin fight. What a joke so glade I did not pay to see that fight. Fix dont know but forrest sure did not look like forrest in that fight. Rampage hit him much harder and he stayed on his feet. I can not believe that he looked that bad. Fixed could be the wwe guys do it much better…..
by mat on Aug 9, 2009 8:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again Miragliotta is a joke and should be banned from refereeing, where was Herb Dean?
by stu on Aug 9, 2009 8:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That made me smile to read seeing as people were generally excited to see someone other than Dean back when Miragliotta first showed up.
by Jas on Aug 9, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
silva is the best fighter in the world…..not fedor.
silva vs frank dukes
by jay/boy on Aug 9, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Silva-Griffin fight was so bizarre.
It was definitely not fixed, just turned out to be a mismatch of huge proportions. The UFC hierarchy have worked too hard to build the sport up. Fixing a fight would tarnish the integrity of the sport, the organisation and its athletes and would be a big setback.
I will admit to feeling cheated after the fight though and sitting there in disbelief. I expected Forrest to at least make Anderson work for his win but it seemed to me Anderson never even got going and was never made to take Forrest seriously. The way he was bobbing and weaving out of the way of Forrest’s punches and was picking his shots was beautiful but a little cringeworthy at the same time because it just looked far too easy for Anderson out there, for saying this fight was supposed to be challenging.
I, like many others, thought Forrest would be a stiff test for Silva and I was even inclined to think the upset would happen as Forrest usually makes up for his lack of technical ability with intelligent, strategic fighting. But he seemed like a headless chicken out there.
As impressive as Silva was, I just feel disappointed in Forrest that he didn’t bring more to the table and make it competitive.
by Jourdan on Aug 9, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please search Forrest Griffin Jaw
on google.
He broke or dislocated his jaw early on.
by Jerry Jackson is my hero on Aug 9, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let Silva take on Brock for the heavyweight title. He just needs to put on a couple pounds..
by spitforce on Aug 9, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just popping in to man up and say way to go bj impressive fight, kenny didn’t do much not impressed with his performance at all. silva , i mean really what can you say other than best in the world??
by TheDragon on Aug 9, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think if rampage loses to evans he will fight silva, but if he wins he will fight machida
by Samoa_Fighter on Aug 9, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jj i left you a post in the results thread, not this one sorry. check about 25 from the bottom. i may or may not have passed out before i could get on this thread.
good call on the griffin/silva fight. i thought forrest would fight smarter than that, he said himself the gameplan was to be patient. surprised he came at silva like a gift wrapped target.
i guess the next week will be rough. bring it on!!
im ready for the woodshed.
by JJ-is-God (formerly day1er) on Aug 9, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, no worries brother. Nice to see someone honoring their bet around here. I am ridiculously hung-over right now and typing hurts. Peace out for now.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 9, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, no worries brother. Nice to see someone honoring their bet around here. I am ridiculously hung-over right now and typing hurts. Peace out for now.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 9, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ would have beaten Kenny faster if Kenny wanted to fight him. It’s obvious Kenny’s remarks before the fight were to psych himself up more than psych out BJ. He was scared.
He ran, he stalled, he pretended to go for takedowns. If he had decided he was going to try and fight BJ, he would have lost in round 1. Every exchange was dominated by BJ.
IMO, Kenny never wanted a takedown in the early rounds. His goal was simply to stall and press his shoulder into BJs stomach to make him tired, hoping to win a decision or pounce later in the fight. BJ understood this, relaxed, and then dominated and tried to finish each exchange. He nearly finished the fight in Round 1.
Kenny attempted a Superman punch in Round 3 and ran into a wall of cryptonite. Every single exchange was dominated by Penn.
And how many takedown attempts did Penn have in Rnd 1 to 3? Penn is a smart fighter. He does high percentage techniques with a high percentage game plan. He softens you up before he goes for the finish. He waited until Round 4 to attempt a takedown and completed his first attempt. Kenny was 0 for 12 in takedowns, BJ was 1 for 1. And that’s all it took. Once on the ground, the domination was overwhelming.
He did the same thing to Stevenson. Kenny goes for submissions right away (like most fighters and risks losing dominate position—and stevenson handed that RNC to him on a silver platter). Penn makes sure the submission will finish by pounding you and making you bleed before he attempts it. He is a champ because he has the patience and poise to do exactly what’s necessary at the appropriate times.
Kenny lost every minute of the fight. BJ looked in better shape than Kenny. Going into round 4 BJ was STANDING in his corner and breathing calmly. I knew Florian would fall and the submission was just icing on the cake.
Striking: Outclassed a world-class muy thai fighter…pretty much didn’t get hit.
Wrestling: Stuffed 100% of takedowns while completing 100% of takedown attempts.
BJJ: In less than two minutes he mounted and choked a world champion completing 100% of his submission attempts.
BJ probably landed 80-90% of strikes, 100% of takedowns, and 100% of submissions. That’s total and utter domination.
Diego is good but he won a controversial decision over Clay Guida. That’s not going to fly against Penn. He’s going to need to seriously step up his game and if he ends up on the ground with Penn it’s over.
Forrest got his jaw dislocated…fights in the UFC aren’t fixed. Try getting punched twice by Anderson Silva in your dislocated jaw. You’d fall and then run to the doctor also.
The Sodallah fight was terrible stoppage by a terrible referee (wasn’t Merg the ref for the cro cop eye poke win?)
I don’t care what anyone says, Kendall Grove won. It’s not the Ultimate Takedown Championships. The judges need to start taking damage and finishing into better account. The only person who came remotely close to finishing that fight was Kendall. Kendall took very little damage and stayed active while fuck face so-called BJJ champ layed on him and nearly got his arm ripped off. That was embarrassing. The only reason he got all the takedowns was because Kendall kept standing up (by overpowering his opponent) and then had to defend another barrage of 15 takedown attempts because pussy doesn’t know how to fight. I’m not even going to say his name. He was supposed to finish Kendall early and didn’t do jack shit for 15 minutes and won. I’m tired of that crap.
Ok…long winded post. I’ll go now.
by KMG on Aug 9, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very good post KMG.
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by *PrettyBoy* on Aug 9, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post KMG. Agree 100% with the BJ fight. Kenny looked like he tired himself out. No disrespect to Kenny. Besides BJ, I think the only other light weights in the ufc that may give Kenny a hard time is Diego & Sherk. Kenny would still walk thru the rest of the division.
Anderson is just amazing. He picked Forrest apart and toyed with him. He dropped his arms. He helped him up. Then boom. I Andersons gotta be the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Fedor & Gsp are great, but Ando is dominating two weight classes right now. Fedor & Gsp have yet to fight outside of their weight.
I feel you on the takedowns thing. But as it stands, that’s how the fights are scored. If there’s no KO or submission the jugdes look to who had the most takedowns.
by Kdog on Aug 9, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with most of what you said, KMG, aside from Diego winning a controversial decision and Sadollah losing being a bad stoppage.
Diego raped Guida from start to finish. Even when he was on the bottom he was far more active and did far more damage. The only thing controversial about it is how one of the tard refs gave Guida a 29-28.
I would’ve been fine with a stoppage or continuation for Amir. Obviously I want to see more fighting, so I prefer the continuation, but in real time it seemed like he was getting battered pretty bad. Had Miragliotta let it go, Amir would’ve been fine, but at the time he seemed in trouble.
by ballhawkdawk on Aug 9, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Dana White "Strike Out"?
First of all let me make something very clear; I am a huge UFC and Dana White fan. I have been watching since UFC I when Royce Gracie showed us the true meaning of "the bigger they are, the harder they fall." When the UFC was in trouble, I still tried to watch, and when Dana White came along and rescued the organization, I was thrilled. I have continued to watch the UFC, and now TUF and WEC, because I believe in Dana, the UFC and what they were doing for the sport of MMA. However, if Dana gets one more strike against him, that might just all change. He already has two against him; the first being the Brock Lesnar phenomenon, and the second strike I will label, "The Betrayal of Forrest."
I will admit, I was a little apprehensive and slightly biased when Brock Lesnar announced he was coming from pro wrestling to the UFC. I thought to myself, well this could go one way or the other, well just have to see. I figured with Couture’s "vacation" and the acquisition of Pride, that the heavyweight division was in need of some fireworks. So I sat back and watched what I thought would be Lesnar paying his dues like any other fighter with a few preliminary bouts under his belt before being labeled a serious contender. That did not happen. Instead what happened was Lesnar getting a crack at the former world champion, a fight that he lost in the first round, then a fight against Heath Herring in which he basically laid on him for three rounds. Then Lesnar is given a TITLE SHOT? Are you kidding? He did not earn that after 2 fights, no way!
Okay, Lesnar did beat Randy, and now he has beaten Mir (By laying on him). So I will concede that he is the UFC champion (and pray that someone will come along and take that belt away from him) but that is not really my problem with this situation. My issue comes with how Dana is handling Lesnar. He is basically allowed to run his mouth a twill, degrade his opponents, the fans, the sponsors, and the referees etc., and Dana still smiles and pats him on the back. Oh yes, I am aware that Dana gave Lesnar a "whip the dog, talk" but I don’t really think that is enough. Dana White has tried so hard to bring this sport from the stigma of being a bloodsport for brutes to the upper echelon of sporting events; he has had a lot of success in doing that too. Lesnar is ruining all that. His actions are no better than the actions of Tito Ortiz, whom Dana openly criticized for behaving like baboon. I have seen Dana kick people out of the TUF house for acting like that, for less sometimes. I could almost understand a young man, getting excited from all the new press and pressure of the TUF stage acting like an idiot, that is even forgivable, but the World Champion? Come on! Dana, put a leash on that puppy! It is no wonder that Fedor does not want to fight in the UFC, with acquisitions and promotions of disgraceful athletes like Lesnar, Dana is now beginning to turn the UFC into the circus that he has criticized Elite XC and other organizations for being. Please, Dana, put down the stack of Lesnar Money and restore honor to the UFC; erase strike one!
Strike two came with the August 8, 2009 fight between the middleweight champion Anderson "The Spider" Silva and former light-heavyweight champ Forrest Griffin. When I first heard this matchup was going to happen, I said to myself, "Oh, poor Forrest. Why is Dana throwing him to the wolves?" I called this fight before it started. I am sure every real fan of MMA could have called this one. Forrest is Forrest, but Silva is on another planet as far as skill set. I love Forrest Griffin, and was devastated when he lost his belt to Rashad Evans by being handled so dominantly. From what I saw from Forrest, he was devastated as well. His spirit seemed as broken as his hand. He seemed embarrassed to have lost his very first title defense and even tapped out at the end of the fight.
I would have thought that Dana White (and Joel Silva) would have given Forrest some time to regroup, and some lesser opponents to help build his confidence back up. I mean after all, Dana continuously credits Forrest for almost singlehandedly raising the UFC to what it is today by his three round war with fellow TUF I cast-mate Stephan Bonnar. I mean if I owed someone like Forrest my success, would I take hi from one horribly embarrassing moment and thrust him into another? No way, I would have way to much respect for Forrest. Every fan in MMA knows there are only two real feasible challenges to Andersen Silva’s win streak, and those two are Loyota Machida and Fedor Emelianenko, period. Hendo may get another shot, and might give him a run for his money in a Hendo v Silva rematch, but I think Silva is too smart for that.
So, Dana, I ask you; why would you do that to Forrest? For the money? If not, for what? It couldn’t have been to show off Silva’s talent, we are all well aware of that. It also wasn’t to build Griffin’s confidence after the title loss. So, why then? You have showed your concern for Chuck Liddell by strongly urging him not to fight, and you protected Tito Ortiz by keeping him from the stronger opponents in 205 (and you couldn’t stand him) so why then Dana have you betrayed Forrest and thrown him to the wolves this way?
Those are Dana’s two strikes, and although I will never get a chance for him to answer for these two situations, I really wish he would; then I might be able to understand. As for now, I consider the count 0-2. Where will the third strike come from Dana? Or will you make one of the previous two right somehow?
by Baboon on Aug 9, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you look at what lots of people where saying, lots of people thought Fprrst would pull of the upset. The punishment wasn’t so much for Forrest as it was supposed to be for Silva. Forrest is a completly game opponent who has given the biggest names a run for their money all up and down the top 10 LHW board. He is a Top 10 LHW. Forrest was supposed to bring out the game in Silva, but as we can all see Silva is just way to good. I really think he thought heart was going to make the match. Unfortunatly for Forrest he ran into a brick wall and hard. There is no shame in Forrest’s loss. He lost to what many people believe to be the best P4P fighter in the world. Where is the punishment/shame in that?
I will agree with you on Lesnar though. He was handled poorly. In his defense though he has gone in there with the best right off the bat. The Hearing win was not pretty, bu the Mir win was devestating. He did not just hold Mir down he beat(ground and pounded) his face in to ground beef with some swelling. Mir looked liket he elephant man after the fight. GNP is part of the game. He was much more active then he was in the Hearring fight were he just stratled him for 15 minutes. The refs should have been moe conscious of that though and stood it up a few times, even though it would have had the same result. The barbarian mentality he has though has to go, it is not good for the sport, and it does discredit all that the UFC has strived to change…
by Da Monkey on Aug 9, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ!!!!!
HE REALLY CAME THROUGH DIDNT HE ADAM G?!
CHEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
by *PrettyBoy* on Aug 9, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You fools sayon griffins fight was fixed is bullshit.
DOnt be mad just cause Anderson made him look rediculous.
WHat’d you expect. Its Anderson Fucking Silva.
He is too smart of a fighter for Griffin and doesnt have good enough technique to defeat him.
Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machia would be a sikk figh but impossible.
Im mean they train with eachother.
Dana would never allow that!
Bjs a G!
by GStatus 7-1 on Aug 9, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A NEW BJ PENN?
We may have seen a glimpse of a more mature, more fit, BJ Penn.
He seemed to be a bit more humble…No blood licking, Less Smug. The post fight interviews seemed more balanced and were not as ODD as BJ has been in the past. He also seemed more comfortable.
Fitness wise, I think this may of been the best BJ we’ve seen…EVER. Remember, he’s in his 30s now and I was amazed to see how strong he looked even in the 4th round. More improvement in the next year in terms of cardio?
by DubNub on Aug 9, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you people crying “FIXED” have got to be the dumbest bunch. Seriously. Allow me to make 3 points.
1) Many of Silva punches were deceptively hard. Look at the ground n pound Forrest took… they weren’t ferocious looking, but you actually saw he back of head SMACKING the mat from the force! OUCH! That’s not even to mentioned the ones that rocked him.
2) I’m sure you saw how Griffin’s neck snaped on that last shot. Now combined that to the force that he rushed forward with. It wasn’t powerful enough for the “lights-out” effect, but it definitely threw off his senses, so much so that he couldn’t plant his left foot firmly – it buckled. By the time he’s on his back for the THIRD time, apparently he realized he’s outmatched and his will to fight was broken. The fact that he did not IMMEDIATELY went into defence or tried to get up when he fell, just proves this. When he finally did put his hands up in defence, it was more of a gesture that he had enough. At that point, the fight was stopped. What’s so suspicious about that?
3) Finally, I challenge you fools to look at any high-quality photos of the fight. The daised/disoriented look on Forrest’s face each time he’s rocked, or eyes that wandered off the target as he receives a blow, or the few seconds he took to struggle to his feet in humiliation as the ref tried to help him… he was definitely hurting during the fight. If that’s fake, he should be acting right now, not fighting. Besides, aren’t they less embarassing ways to lose a fixed fight? Not that the UFC would risk it. Look, it is what it is… he was outclassed by someone in a totally different league, battered, frustrated, and reluctant to fight anymore.
Get over it, and give credit where due!
If I were Silva, I’d be thinking…
Anderson Silva: You thought that was fixed? Wow, was I THAT damn good?!!
by DrealJos on Aug 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guess he wasn’t goofing off after all
Rick
by Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc. on Aug 9, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to take anything away from AS cause i really think he and Machida are the best in the world.
But how come Rampage gave Forrest uppercuts that were much harder then what Silva gave him and he stayed on his feet?
You mean to tell me that Silva punches harder then Rampage?
If that is the case then be prepared for a loooooong domination by Silva.
Silva should fight Machida simply because that is the fight everyone wants to see.
by Roy on Aug 12, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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