Dana White: Fedor Emelianenko will put 'Strikefarce' out of business

I think people watch strikeforce because its free. When it comes to paying for their events they will truely see where they stand.

I dont get showtime in Canada and the next strikeforce event is on PPV here for $40. I know I am not going to pay to watch it.

I might but I might not…they have a decent production but they have absolutely no depth in their roster which is why so many fights get cancelled.

I guessing Coker won’t pay Fedor Big bucks but rather big% to secure that Strikeforce wont go out of business… but who know’s???

Its obviously not about the money for Fedor as I’m sure he already has heaps of it

I suspect that a major reason that Fedor did not sign with the UFC is because he simply does not like Dana White and all of his insults. Fedor knew that the UFC would never co-promote with M-1, so that was probably just a smoke screen. Fedor probably signed with EA sports and went with Strikeforce in part as a slap in the face to Dana. Strikeforce doesn’t have many top heavyweights now, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see UFC heavyweights jump ship to Strikeforce when their contracts expire to get a chance to beat Fedor. Also, with Strikeforce’s roster of fighters and a Showtime deal, I don’t think they will be going out of business any time soon. As much as I would like to see Fedor fight the top UFC fighters, I think that having 2 strong MMA promotions is good for the fans, as well as the fighters and keeps things interesting.

good post but only valid if Fedor stays undefeated

Just read that Tito is training with Freddy Roach right now in LA. Maybe he can teach him that skill commonly referred to as ‘footwork’, but I doubt it. Pumpkinhead also has designs on heading up to Montreal to train with GSP.

I heard about Roach but GSP…it would be the best thing for him imo…just a different camp altogther where he’s not in charge…Tito’s new attitude seems to be following logic as opposed to ego this time around

JJ Where did you hear about him heading up here?

I hope so JJ! Dana obviously sees Fedor as a threat because he never said a bad word about SF until Fedor got there. Just Simmer the fock down! If the UFC is so fn great than you don’t need to put down every other promotion. He just sounds like a bitter a$$! and I like Dana

Yeah, who knows, but I suspect that if anybody but Dana was at the helm, Fedor would have worked harder to get past the whole co-promotion issue. Some people aren’t fickle whores like Tito, and don’t just forget about years of barbs and insults. They hold respect to a higher standard (I am not one of these people, try me fuckers) :-), and take great offense at being ridiculed for no reason other than the fact that they fight in another promotion (PRIDE, Affliction). Another reason why Dana is not the guy to take the sport to the next level.

He did his best to land Fedor, but the damage may have already been done. You can’t just take shit back now that it’s no longer convenient to be insulting, and say ‘no hard feelings, welcome aboard’. Some folks might be too proud to buy into that crap, especially when they don’t need the money and have already built their brand all over Japan and Russia. Then again, this is mostly speculation on my part, and I just broke my promise to myself to not discuss this any further. Maybe I’m more like Dana than I’d like to admit. ;-)

MMA Weekly.

I remember the exact same quote when Affliction came around, people were like “OMG Dana must see them as a threat now!” and yea, they were a threat, and where are they now? Back to T-shirts, leave MMA to the professionals.

Strikeforce are ‘the professionals’. They’ve been at this a long time, and they haven’t had to resort to calling people ‘faggots’ or ‘retards’ in the process.

As I’ve said several times I’m a fan of Strikeforce, I think that they do a great job at promoting MMA, building up names and putting on fights that people want to see and would not normally have the chance to see. The fact that they are allied with Dream has me excited, Thomson-Hansen and Melendez-Aoki would be awesome fights and the signing of Fedor is a coup. Dana is being petulent dismissing Strikeforce, it is M-1 and Fedor who he should be annoyed at for wasting his time.

Having said that, SF’s massive weakness is their champions. The fighters who represent them are jokes, Thomson is good but too injury prone and it’s laughable that Melendez is going to make an interim title defence before Thomson defends his belt. Alistair is a good fighter but he no longer wants to fight in the US, probabaly due to the drug testing, and he should have had the belt stripped when he pulled out of the Werdum fight. As for Cung Le, he is as poor a champion as the likes of Varner and KJ Noons, he only has one name win and that was thanks to Shamrock’s idiocy more than anything else, then decided that a D list movie career was more important than fighting. That guy is an embarrassment and in my mind Jake Shields is the real MW champion, as he beat a legitimate titleholder in Lawler and he should have been awarded the belt for this, at least he is interested in fighting. Hopefully the signings of Fedor, Jacare et al will be the turning point for SF because until their champions show up, they are going to be limited as a promotion.

Yup,Strikeforce is a professional organization, I wonder if this time around M-1 may toss in some of their $$$ in this co-promotion to secure a big % of the profits if any?.. they say they wanted to do that with the UFC (which of course didn’t makes sense for the UFC, but may make more sense with a smaller upcomer like strikeforce)I wonder if M-1 promised to do something along the lines of the same deal with Strikeforce, putting their $$$ where their mouth is? Just a thought.

Jeremy is right. Strikeforce are the professionals. When there around with stacked roster on CBS with big ratings by the end of 2010, Dana is going to be terrified.

damn right Bill Maher!

Doubt it Bill. With M-1 attacted, Strikeforce is dead in 2 years tops.

Are you guys serious?

Strikeforce is the professional group and will be booming?

We’ll see. This is now a competition, UFC vs Strikeforce. Getting Fedor didn’t help them, it put a target on their back. Expect counter programming to the fullest extent. Wait until Fedor gets his fight date set, and expect Dana to throw out Brock or GSP or the best that the UFC has to offer.

Dana is not the guy you want to make an enemy with.

Part of being a professional is how good you are at what you do. And the UFC is much better at promoting fights and presenting them. Are they crass sometimes, sure. But skill level comes into play.

we shall see synyster. If I am wrong I will gladly admit I am. I expect you to do the same if you are. :-)

Dana would be an idiot to throw his biggest PPV draws on the same night as other cards, just to screw Strikeforce. He wants to maximize his profit from those guys; he’s not going to sacrifice millions to piss off Coker. There will be counter-programming, but it will probably be on Spike and it sure as hell won’t feature Brock or GSP.

Don’t you just love DW’s rants. They’re hilarious. Not even a year ago this is what he said about them:

(Context: Talking about SF doing 1.1mil views on NBC)

“I think that’s awesome. I think that’s great. Strikeforce is a good show. They’ve been putting on good fights for a long time. They run a great business. It’s good. That’s a good thing. It’s a positive thing.”

“These guys run a real promotion,” added White. “They know how to run a promotion. They don’t try to tamper with fights. They don’t have (expletive) goofballs from backyard barbecues fighting. It’s a good thing. I hope they do ten million viewers next week.”

http://www.nokaut.com/?id=12&solo_news=2504&lang=e&title=Dana+White+on+Strikeforce%3A+%22These+Guys+Run+A+Real+Promotion%22

Haha, no shit RobH86. You just have to sit back and laugh at all the girls who think Dana is a credible source of… well, anything really.

Lol, RobH86 via tapout due to quotes lol! What really sucks is that Dana is gonna wreck a perfectly good promotion that put out great fights for the journeymans that everyone likes or great fighters that slipped through the UFC’s fingers. This can also be a big blow to women’s MMA in the states, not that most would care.

I think Dana was “trying” to be civil and nice in that quote while being a bit sarcastic. Trying not to flare anything up while telling SF to lick it. Do you really think he wished SF did 10 million viewers?? No, I don’t think so.

Well things have changed. This time last year he had only good things to say about Cung Le too. They were not a threat last year and still aren’t really but they have grown. Dana’s only saying these things now because he’s pissed that Fedor signed with them and he doesn’t want them to have a sizeable slice of the money pie; they can have the crumbs.

I actually like Dana and he’s really nice in person to all the fans but he is funny when it comes to the rants.

Just to explain the subplot. He was kind of having a dig at EliteXC when they had Kimbo and were trying to make it. He was saying look at SF, that’s how to run a startup org properly.

Lol, read this Dana quote…

“Strikeforce should have stayed the way they were.” … “If they want to fight me, we’re gonna fight. We know how that goes, and we know how it ends.”

Exactly memeber formerly known as O Damn, how can someone wait so long between title matches?? Here we we’re crying that BJ didn’t defend in almost a year! Yet its okay for Strikeforce.

Strikeforce = Win the title = never have to defend = life long title holder. Perfect for Fedor, win the title, then disappear for 10 years, then retire the champ.

Yea I can hear the sales pitch on the Overeem title fight already “Alistair won the title in devestating fashion, and hasn’t been dethroned in over 2 years now!”

So is it safe to call Alistair and Fedor “the Runningmen”? Maybe SF can put on a unification fight on and have Arnie as a guest ref.

I don’t know what the future will hold for Strikeforce, but I do know there will always be at least one other stateside promotion player in the mix other than the UFC. Despite the frustration of not being able to see every fight we may hope for, options are a good thing for fighters and are ultimately good for the sport. As fans we ultimately benefit, as the competition between promotions brings us higher quality fight cards, more fights, and greater exposure for the sport.

Yep. Like I’ve said before CL, until the UFC stops being so cheap and controlling, and starts paying its fighters way more than other promotions (which they could easily aford to do), they really have no right to bitch about competition.

You don’t want other promotions snatching up top talent? Do what the major sports leagues do to make sure they have all the top dogs. Pay your guys more than the other organizations can afford. It’s really quite simple. Dana can’t have it both ways, and as long as he’s paying comparative salaries, other orgs will try to cut his grass and cash in on this growing and profitable sport.

I think I should specify. I like the UFC and watch all of their events. I just like mma more. I like Strikeforce. It is free and they put on great fights. I am not going to start hating them because they have started signing big fighters. I think some of these guys don’t realize that the UFC can not be the only promotion forever. A strong rival will eventually surface and I think that promotion is Strikeforce. If all of the sudden they quit making profit and selling out stadiums (which I highly doubt) and go under (again I doubt, they make good money), I will admit I am wrong like a man. However, I think some of the guys in here like ultimate fighting, not mma. Those people are idiots. If the UFC goes under (which I highly doubt) , I think they would quit watching mma.

I like BNF ;)

You ain’t so bad yourself Mac. ;-)

Get a room.

bow chica bowow

I like you too JJ ;)

Now this is just getting wierd…

Relax…too much hate boys…closing the biggest job in my companies history tomorrow and have been screamin’ and yellin’ all day…haven’t been able to keep up with you clowns this week and miss it to tell ya the truth…

I miss your humor Mac.

Too much venom around here lately.

Any good Chuck Norris jokes?

;)

haha…good call OJR

Chuck Norris can set ants on fire with a magnifying glass. At night.

Chuck norris is what willis was talking about

Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.

 Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one bird.

There has been a lot of venom here lately. Luckily, poster hddavidson would be more than happy to suck that venom out. But only, of course, if you happen to have been bitten on the penis.

Not to worry OD, OJR..I like you 2 as well…anybody else wanna know if I like ya or not? HUH??

Not to worry OD, OJR..I like you 2 as well…anybody else wanna know if I like or not? HUH??

There has been a lot of venom here lately. Luckily, poster hddavidson would be more than happy to suck that venom out. But only, of course, if you happen to have been bitten on the penis.

Ya!! Chuck Norris is so tough that under his beard he doesn’t have chin, but another fist.

What did hbdavidson do this time? I know some of his posts are retarded but why the hate?

Why not? This site is fuelled by hate. Between hating on Fedor, boxing, and GSP, that’s really all that’s happened this week.

And “some” is a bit of an understatement man.

^^^LOL, look how I somehow snuck a reply in on Mac’s post where replys should not be possible. Even the rules of posting bend to my will.

:-)

Who is hbdavidson and on which thread was he acting up?

Don’t sweat it Mac. I’ve given the kid way more air-time than he deserves as it is.

JJ-

If I was around when that anti-boxing article went up, I DEF would have spewed some serious venom myself.

What a bunch of sh!t by Mr. Holland.

You say hate and don’t even mention BJ? BJ is on a whole now level of fan hatred. Even his most loyal jumped ship, or hide. Not me…

BNF-

I am still a BJ fan but he needs to stop running his mouth.

True BNF, but did you notice that the article headline begins with “Roid St-Pierre”, and has a photoshop of a needle going into GSP? Meanwhile, little BJ gets a cute little Pope outfit?

OJR-

I know you would have, brother. I was waiting for you to chime in, but then I remembered you were away until today; so I dug my trench and checked my rifle and valiantly charged in alone.

;-)

OJR, I know, but being a fan of BJ is like marrying a fat chick… You know what you signed up for in the beginning. Are you willing to go all the way and fu*k the folds? Too far?

JJ, I know Mania is a BJ fan, but not sure about Jesse. I always appereciate his photoshop efforts anyways.

For a second there Mac, I thought you were talking about that “dos santis” beer commercials and not Chuck Norris.

I just had pick everyone off the floor here at work after reading those – good job! :lol:

Response is in mod… Talk to you guys tomorrow.

gettin’ excited OJR?? I would be

YES! Flying out to Philly tomorrow!

Will keep you maniacs posted!

Have a good one!

Enjoy man.

I had a boss that used to snap like Dana. Let me tell you, he was so creative on the fly you couldn’t help but start laughing right in the middle of his “snapfest”.

I never seen a punted cylinder head fly across the shop so hard.

I had a boss that used to snap like Dana. Let me tell you, he was so creative on the fly you couldn’t help but start laughing right in the middle of his “snapfest”.

I never seen a punted cylinder head fly across the shop so hard.

NP, always glad to lend a hand when someone doesn’t know what they’re talkin about :)

I know you know what sarcasm is, cause you counted my sarcasm with… sarcasm. Which means my initial sarcasm was more effective and wins.

I didn’t counter sarcasm with sarcasm, read it, there’s no reading between the lines, it was pretty straight forward I thought..

I agree with JJ here…Dana has become a “pop icon” and less of an MMA icon…hard to say if we’d be where we are today without him but I’d like to think so…I’m a Dana fan but at times I feel his ego and love of MMA gets the better of him…

Dana served his purpose and put MMA on the map. I will always appreciate him for that. But he is not the guy I’d want at the helm of a billion-dollar company, especially considering his love for the spotlight and inability to control himself or behave professionally.

you want another monkey in a suite telling you everything you want to hear and acting professionally? Fuck that I’ll take a huge fan of MMA that has the smarts and attitude to run the MMA rather than cokker willing that has Frank Shamrock as one of his highest payed fighters anyday LMFAO.

I appreciate it when Dana says what’s on his mind. It is sometimes refreshing. But when what’s on his mind are childish insults and retarded tantrums, I feel like I’m watching something that’s appealing to kids and morons. I expect a small degree of professionalism from the president of a major, high-profile company. When you’re a little older you probably will too.

JJ Puck is 35 married with kids and makes good money I know this because I work with him and I see when I was working my ass off all day he was on was busy on mmamania. One thing you need to understand is all business or different my friend and Dana understands his. Fact is that you have all peaple talking about Dana like yourself like or hate him he brings attention to the UFC. You may think of it as negative attention but a business man in his business likes any attention to a degree(the gay thing over the line. Another thing that I think his fighters appreciate is the attention he can take away from them if he wasn’t so vocal and good at getting the medias attention the reporters would try to dig sh$t up on the fighters. And by the way Puck since your not answering your phone MW needs the valves in tomorrow and we still have no MTRs?! I’m off so deal with it.

Totally agree double J. Dana’s profanity ridden antics just cheapen the sport. He’s done great to get the UFC to where it is with his brash no nonsense style, but is he the man to carry on its growth now its going mainstream? Now UFC is more widely accepted and getting more exposure I believe you have to start acting a bit more level headed and responsibly and engage the brain before opening your mouth. The UFC is trying to get legalised in NY and is Dana really the man to spearhead these kinds of negotiations?

Exactly Puck I agree with you on this one. I was hyped for Barnett who I believe had a great chance at beating Fedor even though his gameplan is simple it has been shown to be very effective. If Cro Cop stuck beside Fedor I’m very certain he to would have stocked up on the wins and been overrated. Regardless the UFC has higher quality fights in every division Fedor won’t be stealing my money either.