Strikeforce to offer Jake Shields interim middleweight title fight for October
by Jesse Holland on Aug 4, 2009 8:15 PM EDT
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Easy Cung, easy go.
It's been nearly a year and a half since San Shou dynamo Cung Le usurped the 185-pound title from Frank Shamrock at the Strikeforce: "Shamrock vs. Le" event way back in March 2008.
To put things in perspective, Le won the title when Evan Tanner was still alive, Kimbo Slice was the star of Elite XC and Matt Serra was the UFC welterweight champion.
Yeah, it's been a while.
One person who's tired of waiting for Le to make his first title defense is former Elite XC welterweight champion Jake Shields, the grappling phenom who recently submitted Robbie Lawler in his Strikeforce debut to notch his twelfth straight win.
So what's the hold up?
Le took a not-so-temporary leave of absence to churn out an assortment of upcoming movie roles. He already has two movies set to be released in the near future, including the big screen version of the popular video game "Tekken" in which Le will play the role of Marshall Law.
With three more movies in progress, CEO Scott Coker told TapouT Radio that he intends to create an interim title until the champ can return. And first on his list of potential candidates is Shields, who will be offered an interim title fight this October against an opponent to be named later.
Coker added that the winner of the interim title will likely face Le at the end of this year to unify the belts. That could potentially set up a Shileds vs. Le match up to close out the year.
And what a year it's been for the San Jose-based organization.
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If Le ever does fight Shields he’ll get tapped out.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 4, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i bet he doesnt even come back to fight at the end of the year
by JG on Aug 4, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
hes just gunna not fight so he can make movies where he only makes a 3 minuet apperence
by JG on Aug 4, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that’s right! he’ll make more money on those minutes and feel better when he’s done..
Im 21 now, starting to get old =)
by RoBerto on Aug 4, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Randy was talking about how strikeforce just became an attractive destination for UFC Hw’s:
On Fedor:
Quote:
“I think most people consider him the best heavyweight in the world,” Couture said. “The guy is very impressive, with what he did to Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski, and then going back to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and all the other people he’s defeated. He wins his fights in pretty devastating fashion most of the time. Most poeple consider him the best heavyweight, and as a fighter, those are the people you want to fight. You want to fight the best guy.”
Flame on Fedor haters but even your beloved RANDY bows down!
by john G on Aug 4, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i bet randy losses to nog , then he should retire and give his fedor hopes up because if he didnt retire before that fight he would be put into retirment
by JG on Aug 4, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sh*t bro . . . can you please not come to every GOD DAMN THREAD WIH FEDOR THIS AND FEDOR THAT!!! SHUT THE F*CK UP ABOUT FEDOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LEFT THE PENN/ANDO THREAD CAUSE YOU GUYS DID IT THERE TO COME TO THIS ONE AND HERE YOU ARE 10 FRIGGIN POSTS INTO THIS THING WITH THIS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHUT THE F******CK UP!!!!! DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor is the KING!! history tells us when a lesser population/civilization wanted to overthrow a King, they had to take the fight to the king. they had to fight n defeat the king on his ground. it wasn’t vice versa, the king did not have to go out to the countryside n defeat his enemies. his enemies had to come to him if they wanted what was his.
by deuce 4 on Aug 4, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
F*CK YOU TOOL, THIS IS AN MMA SITE NOT A TURN EVERY THREAD INTO A FEDOR DEBATE WHEN THERES FEDOR THREADS TO POST THIS CRAP IN!! ITS BECOME BEYOND ANNOYING!!!!! YOU GUYS MADE ME LEAVE A THREAD WHERE ANDERSON SILVA CALLS BJ PENN THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD, ME, THE BUGEST PENN NUTHUGGER ON THE PLANET AN IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM!!! DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS TO DO?!?!?!?!? SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 4, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
What a douche you are john! Your giving Randy respect for saying “you want to fight the best guy” But too bad your man-crush G@ydor doesnt do that. For me it wasnt only the HW’s of the UFC. It was LHW’s that could have had mega-fights with G@ydor. Even Anderson would have gave him a great fight.
by JV on Aug 4, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
great post duece!
btw, adam G, Take this: FEDOR! FEDOR! FEDOR!
by john G on Aug 4, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam I’m with you. Im tired of talking about Fedor. To be honest, I’m also burned out from talking about UFC 101. Whats left to be said about anything? Sh*t, 103 is even getting started early. By the time that one is a week away, we will have already talked the crap outta 107.
by Synyster on Aug 4, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Any ideas on who would be a good opponent for Sheilds?
by JV on Aug 4, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Get Santiago in there with Shields. And please just strip Cung Le and make that a real title fight- he’s nothing but a hyped up can.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 4, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
HEY, LETS MAYBE TALK SHIELDS OR LE!! JUST A THOUGHT. EVEN WEC TORRES/BOWLES, ANYTHING BUT READING ABOUT FEDOR. HES WITH STRIKEFORCE, HE’LL FIGHT SOMEGUYS THERE, THEY MAKE COOL POSTERS WITH COPROMO LABELS ON THEM, OVEREEM IS THIS AND BROCK IS THAT, GONZAGAS NOT A STRIKER, M-1 SUCKS, YOU ALL DRINK KOOLAID OF SOME SORT, BLAH BLAH BLAH!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 4, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Now we’re talking JV. Um… what MW does Strikeforce have that is on a decent win streak? Nick Diaz is obviously outta the question. Think they could bring up Jacare, or Mayhem from Dream?
by Synyster on Aug 4, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, forgot about Santiago. Shields should submit him quick.. Where has “Smokin” Joey Villasenor been?
by Synyster on Aug 4, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if strikeforce has the same contract implications and outcomes for when a fighter goes on hietus ala randy/ufc, maybe it just sits out there til he decides to come back cause legely etc or if they can just move on completely?
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 4, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Jacare and Mayhem are good choices Synyster. Its kinda weird with Diaz/Sheilds. Diaz is more suited for MW and Sheilds for WW imo.
by JV on Aug 4, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhhhh Synyster!!! Villasenor! Im a fan of his. And he was on a win streak no?
by JV on Aug 4, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Villasenor vs. Mayhem or Santiago vs. Shields would be the best matchups for the title
by Bill Maher on Aug 4, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d say both are more suited for WW. I was saying its out because they are both Caesar Gracie boys.
I’m a bit surprised that they are going with Shields as a MW champion. I thought for sure they’d save him for WW champion, but maybe they want Nick for that.
Another conspiracy theory is that SF wants to have Shields as both the 70 and 85 pound champions, and leave Nick to bounce around “whooping some asth” in both divisions/catchweights.
Jacare/Shields would be SICKKK. Imo
by Synyster on Aug 4, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Your just feedin’ the fire Adam G. As for potential interim title candidates I like the Santiago idea, but I doubt it will happen. For some reason I see Karma paying off for Smokin’ Joe and him getting the shot at Shields. To anwser your question Synyster he is coming off a decision win over Cyborg (the male one) in the Strikeforce challenger series.
by DB on Aug 4, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Smokin Joe is on a 4 fight win streak, 2 TKOs and 2 split decisions, the last one being the lackluster (I think) SD win over Cyborg Santos.
by Synyster on Aug 4, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I did, and it was good… Jake Shields is not interesting to talk about, Fedor is!
by RoBerto on Aug 4, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude.. just drop it. Go talk about Fedor in the Fedor thread.
by Synyster on Aug 4, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, I haven’t dropped a single comment in either of the Fedor threads im just saying..
by RoBerto on Aug 4, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Jacare-Shields too but Jacare would be too much for him at this point- way better grappler and his striking has already surpassed jake’s. I don’t care if mayhem fights ever again.
by NameNotRequired on Aug 4, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Jacare and Mayhem still have to rematch after that NC/DQ whatever it was.
by PW on Aug 4, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Roberto . . . at least you’re a funny f*cker = ) and i eat Honey Bunches of oats suckas!!! Muchos Gracias mi amigos . . . Realy, some old lady accidentally walke out of the post ofice an hour ago with my quicksilver discontinued shades!!! Im pissed bro’s, an to come back home to Fedor mania made me snap, me love you all! Bring on the countdown tonight baby, show me something BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 4, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
ADAMGFEEEEEEEDOOOOOOORRRRRRFEEEEEEEEEEEEDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRR FEDOR! FEDOR! FEDOR!
by DAVE A on Aug 4, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
JG COUTURE LOSES TO NOG??? I’LL TAKE THAT BET!!!!!
by DAVE A on Aug 4, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it was a NC, PW. Since they do have a rematch coming along, would they be not allowed to fight? I haven’t heard of a date announced for the rematch.
NNR- So you think Jacare would beat Shields? I would think that, while a close match, Shields would win a decision.
Another possible opponent- Paulo Fihlo
by Synyster on Aug 4, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
bring me saturday so i can go out at the club, get crunked out, and come home and watch the UFC!..
Shields would dominate Filho..
by RoBerto on Aug 4, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Fihlo, while retarded, is a pretty good submission specialist. A fight with Shields could be an opportunity for Jake to showcase his improving/nonexistent stand up skills without fear of getting ko’d by a better kickboxer. Lets face it, in a race to win by standing KO vs a legit opponent, Paulo is way back there with Aoki and Hughes. If Jake does get taken down by Fihlo, then its not like he’s in THAT much trouble. Anyway, just my opinion on a potential Shields/Fihlo fight.
by Synyster on Aug 4, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Like i mentioned, striking wise – at this point from what i’ve seen Jacare is acclamating very well and does the basics better than him. Jacare’s chin is suspect but Shields in addition to his terrible hands lacks power. On the ground, Jacare clearly has a stiffling and aggressive top game so he would control position and smash up his guard while working to the mount/back the whole time. Shields is more of a sweep-sub kinda guy which works against him especially in scoring on the cards. You saw how he struggled against Paul Fn Daley. The UD is much more likely for jacare if he can’t get solid/dominant positions (even if he gasses).
by NameNotRequired on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting breakdown. I’m not a big fan of either guy, and I like Jacare more than Shields, so I would just hope for a great ground battle with cool sweeps and tranistions.
by Synyster on Aug 4, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Nicely put NNR, you just answered a question that I was wondering a couple weeks ago(who would get the better on the ground between those 2). Jacare’s already surpassed Shields in the stand up IMO. I also wonder if shields is bigger than him?
by Alpha Male on Aug 4, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Alpha- I HIGHLY doubt Shields is bigger than him, seeing as Shields makes 70 fairly easy, and Jacare looks pretty solid at 85.
by Synyste on Aug 4, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know syn? Mayhem is bigger than Jacare and I always thought that him(Mayhem) and Shields were about the same size.
by Alpha Male on Aug 4, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Comment by JV
2009-08-04 19:55:43
What a douche you are john! Your giving Randy respect for saying "you want to fight the best guy" But too bad your man-crush G@ydor doesnt do that. For me it wasnt only the HW’s of the UFC. It was LHW’s that could have had mega-fights with G@ydor. Even Anderson would have gave him a great fight.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by LJ on Aug 5, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Man tired of seeing this comment. Your a joke. It’s SF that’s the problem. They should have stripped him. He wants to do other stuff – great. He still one bad ass fighter.
by JTK5 on Aug 4, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You can’t be a bad arse fighter if you don’t fight, beating 5 cans and a washed up Frank Shamrock in a kickboxing match then playing miniscule roles in awful films instead of defending your belt is not good enough.
SF should have made Shields-Lawler an interim MW title fight, then given Cung an ultimatum; fight Shields or you lose the belt. At least Shields now has the chance to be a champion in SF, even if it is overdue. I say give him Jacare, should be a grappling clinic.
by David W-S on Aug 5, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
the really strange thing is at ww, Shields has beated Pyle and Condit, which are good, but not that good. At mw, he has beaten Okami and Lawler, which IMO are actually better wins. I think shields could take Le pretty easily.
by Bill Maher on Aug 4, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
I think the Okami and Condit wins were both at 175 in some sort of ROTR tournament. Amazing to think Okami could make that weight though, but I’m not interested in getting into a semantics argument. I’ll double check that for you though.
by DB on Aug 4, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
it really isn’t a life or death matter. thanks though.
by Bill Maher on Aug 4, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know, just some info though. I’m kind of a stickler about those kind of things.
by DB on Aug 4, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Just saw UFC countdown with BJ talking about how he knows he lost to GSP and GSP really hurt him after 2 rounds. Even goes on to say he’s glad that they stopped it because the fight might have ended his career. Powerful words. BUT what did happen is BJ realized what he thought good conditioning was, wasn’t what it takes. GSP’s conditioning is operating at a different level and BJ was shocked. That’s one reason he moved to Cali to train.
I’ve been calling Kflo for this for a while now, but I was surprised to hear BJ humble. Wow. He’s on a new better then ever strength and conditioning program. Loooking like wow.
The kflo peice was alright, but it’s really tough not to think BJ is going to make an example in this fight.
On topic, Shields deserves the title shot. I’d love to see him fight Santiago as well. Then a superfight with WW champ nick diaz…not that i’m expecting that.
by Big Zino on Aug 4, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
the ass whopping he got would make anybody humble.
by shamo84 on Aug 4, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the heads up cash money Zino! cant wait for the countdown!! I mentioned the countdown in a post being moderated above where i had to cool down from my earlier rants = )
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 4, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
dawm its good to hear BJ humble him and Torres will always be my favorite fighters
War BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ
also I like anderson Silva but I kinda want him to loose for making me pay to watch his last 2 fights
BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Aug 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ BJ BJ!!! that looks like a half darn and half damn up there mexi, so surprised its got you tongue tied! dawm it feels good to be a gangsta! = ) BJ BJ BJ!!! Im just moved to Redding Cali in nor cal mexi, where you at??
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
next to Santa Rosa
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Aug 4, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
right on, im a Bay Area native, cali all the way regardless!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Aug 4, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
ya defenatelly think Diaz is a much better mw or ww than althought Shields is ranked way above him in ww, shields does have some sick jitz though but gina would prob tear him up in the striking, Those 2 (diaz vs. shields) fighting for the SF ww would be sick
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
to bad they train together and wont fight
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If it stayed standing then Le would dominate, he’s a highly decorated kickboxer, but the second it went to the ground it’d be over. I don’t get why SF is up Le’s ass by letting him keep the belt, he’s 6-0, the only person of any value that he’s beaten is Frank Shamrock, who hasn’t beaten anybody with any significance this decade. Most of the people Le has beaten are around .500. I just don’t see him as a true champion, yea he won the belt but what kind of champion books it after winning? As soon as he does get back and gets his ass beat he’s going to blame it on cage rust.
by RED on Aug 4, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
new rule: no mentioning of Ken Shamrock, he’s a sham, hasn’t beaten any mentionable fighter. He’s also a self-promoting prick.
by kibbled_bits on Aug 4, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Every post on this thread above this post of course, is an accurate illustration of why intelligent people have abandoned this site.
by Rich B on Aug 4, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
If all the intelligent people are gone and you’re still here, what does that make you?
by RED on Aug 5, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Jacare, Fihlo, or Jason Miller. All legit enough for an interim Strikeforce title that Shields is expected to win. If Cung Le comes back and Shields beats him, Jake should make a move to the UFC WW division, as GSP is gonna need some viable opponents soon. And Jake should take Nick Diaz with him. I don’t care if he’s a huge underdog, the guy I would most want to see fight GSP right now is Nick Diaz.
by revjames13 on Aug 4, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
honestly i don’t post here that much anymore cause of the bullshit nonsense mma fans here talk about
by bryant on Aug 5, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
Ironic that you and Rich are whining about awful posts then don’t make any contribution to the Shields news whatsoever.
by David W-S on Aug 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
There shouldnt be an interim title, Le should just be stripped.
by Lester The Pimp on Aug 5, 2009 6:49 AM EDT reply actions
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