Scott Coker: Fedor Emelianenko vs Alistair Overeem 'should be an amazing fight'

I don’t understand. So Fedor has to fight a can before fighting Alistair? Why don’t they give the #1 HW in the world their best match up right away?

Cause they don’t have any depth in their division, either he’s fighting cans now or cans afterward, they can’t offer him top shelf competition all 3 fights cause the guys just aren’t there.

“Their Champion” Wamma? Who the Fok cares about WAMMA? some made up bull Belt that was defended against guy’s the ufc let go because of lackluster performances.

This guy is a load of bull shat!

Alistair’s losses:

2 to Shogun (LHW)
2 losses to Nogueria
1 loss to Chuck Liddel (LHW)
1 loss to Werdum
1 No Contest with Cro Cop

Far from impressive resume.

To be fair, his bouts at LHW were before he was as big as he is now. He really was a 205er at the time those fights happened. Course he was still bigger than both Chuck and Shogun at the time regardless.

Basically Alistair Overeem is the consensus #10 Heavyweight in the world.

Bloody Elbow has him ranked #10 behind 5 UFC guys and 2 Strikeforce guys. Behind AA who got KO’ed twice in 2 fights.

2 Brock Lesnar
3 Josh Barnett
4 Frank Mir
5 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
6 Randy Couture
7 Shane Carwin
8 Brett Rodgers
9 Arlovski

Sherdog has #10 also behind:

3 Brock Lesnar
4 Frank Mir
5 Nogueira
6 Couture
7 Rodgers
8 AA
9 Carwin
10 Alistair

No shit. If he was as big then as he is now he wouldn’t have been a LHW. And if he was as small now as he was then he wouldn’t be on the roids.

Wouldn’t it be hilarious to see Overeem give him the ole cro cop right to family jewels three times. I’d love to see Fedor keeled over holding his crotch and have Strikeforce’s BIG match up end in a DQ…LOL.

Fedor will fight Grim which isnt exactly a cakewalk!

Fedor only signed a 3 fight, 1 year deal…which means he will face: Grim, Overeem and Werdum (but thats not guarenteed because by that time they could sign a better heavyweight). affliction was having shows once a year, now we get to see Fedor fight 3 times over the course of a year! Music to my ears!!!!!!!!!!

This is only a 1 year deal and after that, maybe Dana will change his mind about co-promotion! Yes, I am an optimist!

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Bad news***

A truly disturbing news. The StrikeForce VP was on radio not long ago, and apparently it’s possible that when UFC took over some Affliction contracts they wanted Mousasi, but he didn’t come… So now they are trying to force him to come or to stop his next fight…

Dana acting like a little girl that got dumped again!

Hey Mania, I am curious to hear how you guys feel about the Fedor situation. One of you guys should write an oppinion piece!

Go Dana, go Dana, it’s your birthday! to quote Introvert (and this is the best post he ever did and nothing he’s ever said has been truer)

UFC! USA! UFC! USA! YAY HOORAY YA, WOO!! O HELL YEAAA!!

Sorry John, at this point I’m with Dana, go for the throat D.W.!!! GET EM BOY!

BOI*

Dammit John! I was hoping Mousasi would fly under the radar and not be a problem, seeing as he already has contractual obligations to DREAM anyway. And since he signed with DREAM before Affliction, then the UFC cant take him anyway, right? Ahhh. Dana dont do this!

It’s probably like that movie “Unleashed” Fertita just whispers in Dana’s ear “Kill em” and takes off the colour (that how you spell colour?? just don’t look right :(). Cept in this movie there is no Morgan Freeman, once they let the dog off the chain it’s over, he’s out to put Coker’s d!ck in the dirt now.

I really do want to see Mousasi vs Babalu though :( , but not as bad as I want to see Fedor forced into fighting in the UFC! GO DANA, GO DANA, GO LORENZO, GO DANA, UFC! USA! UFC! USA!

haha i remember that movie

“i am not your dog”

I have my doubts that Alistair will even bother to show up at Strikeforce, he always seems to weasel his way out of fighting in the US. I’d rather see Fedor-Grim anyway, so if that and Alistair-Werdum is on the same Showtime card then I’ll be happy, though I have a feeling that Fedor and Alistair are going to be wasted on cans. If that happens it would serve Coker right if one of them lost, I like SF but building up big names in that way really winds me up and is the sort of tactic that is ruining boxing, give us the big fights now not later.

John, mixed reactions on Mousasi, I’d love for him to join the UFC and after the Affliction debacle he sounded keen on joining the UFC but I don’t want his fight with Babalu ruined again, it would be a very petulent thing for Dana to do and will show that he doesn’t care about MMA having the best fights, he only wants them in his organisation. I can’t stand it when egos get in the way of big fights.

I’m willing to sacrifice Mousasi vs Babalu to see them both back in the UFC, it’s been in place long enough, they can lift their ban on Babs, and I’m all for having the UFC stamp out the competition and be the only high level MMA org in business. I don’t ever want to see a top 10 fighter especially the #1 fighter consistently matched up against #10 and below. I want the best vs the best and if the UFC is the only place to be than that can finally happen. LETS GO MONOPOLY !! GET EM DANA!

Wage war Dana. I’m with you.

LOFL.

And to think, the F-word stood for something entirely different a week ago.

Sigh.

Saw this on another website…
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Strikeforce and DREAM are expected to announce a partnership shortly that could see an exchange of fighters between the two promotions. Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker revealed Monday night in a radio appearance on The Carmichael Dave Show that the No. 2 MMA promotion in America will enter into an “alliance” with Fighting Entertainment Group, the parent company of the No. 1 MMA promotion in Japan…
 
“We’ve talked about [the partnership] for a long time,” Coker said. “It’s finally going to happen now so maybe [Sergei] Kharitonov could fight Fedor at some point.”

Wow!
You guys realize, we were all saying, “Kimbo Slice should fight Rogers to show us how good he really is”.
Fast forward about 12 months and now Strikeforce, and people are on here saying something very similar to “Fedor should fight Rogers to show us how good he really is”.

Sad, but I think that says more about Fedor than it does about Kimbo.

Yup Danna should do this, I’m dreaming but it would be great!!

Fedor’s first fight: Brock defends his Title on spike, while fedor gets showtime debut.

Fedor’s 2nd fight: Fedor fights another gimme and Spike shows Anderson, GSP and Florian(please!) defend their tittles.

Fedors 3rd fight: Dana delivers 5 tittle fight PPV plus Sanchez vs guida 2, Ortiz vs Lydel 4 and Carwin vs gonzaga

Then when strike force is Fawked, Dana can get Diaz, Babalu and moussassi. And the rest of the can’s can go fight in Japan where they can be circus bitches in a bunch of fixed non sactioned bouts.

Seriously, you may as well suggest that Tito Ortiz takes on the Silver Surfer (in a tiTTle fight).

And Ortiz/Lydel(lol) 4, huh. Think you’re skipping ahead just a tad.

;-)

Lol Double J.

LOL JJ :)

harsh but likely true.

I agree, Overeem has about 30-40 seconds to land a big shot and do some damage, after that they’re gonna end up in the clinch and on the ground.

STFU! Alistar is a great fighter…Its not Fedor’s fault that the ony HW alive that we can even think of giving Fedor problems is Brock! Alistar is GREAT, its not Fedor’s fault that he will outclass anyone!

If Alistar signed with the UFC today, you would all jump right on his nuts! Bandwagon Fockers!

I have a feeling this fight wil end via Fedor by TKO, g n P, one of those diving punches into his opponents side guard. Just how shogun Ko’ed him in their most recent fight!

No doubt it’s an interesting fight John, cause imo Overeem really COULD take him out, and has a chance (albeit a small one), but what about the spoon fed can they’re throwing at Fedor first? You really pumped up and excited about watching him fight chopped liver??

And you seem to be under the impression that he’s going to get Werdum, Grimm and Overeem in this three fight deal, up top it says he and Overeem are both going to do a couple fights so they can build them up. If Coker’s intentions are to “build them up” and build up a fight between them, I seriously doubt they’re going to be going up against credable opponents here.

john g, you STFU! Alistair is great? are you kidding me???? I am as big an Overeem fan as anyone, but only because he is exciting to watch… in no way, shape, or form is he great!! Fedor will take him down easily, and GnP his way to victory in the first round, same against Rodgers. You are right that its not Fedor’s fault there isnt great competition for him in Strikeforce, but it is his fault he decided to sign with them knowing all along there isnt good competition! Fedor has no desire to fight the best, its that easy!!!!!

1. demolition man fan on this site !!!

ill say overeem by ko first round! flame on bitches

Dana will definitely counter program every strikeforce event from now on. Just like Fedor did what is best for his business, Dana will also.

This is a war, and as for people ordering PPV it will be hard to turn down a stacked UFC card to see Fedor fight any of Strikeforce’s HW of which are ranked #8 and #10 HW in the world (according to Sherdog/Bloody Elbow).

Yes we will want to see the fight, but in the days of internet we can just watch the fight the next day online somewhere. Definitely not worth $50 for 1 fight. That is like ordering a boxing PPV that gives you only 1 quality fight.

If StrikeForce shows stay free on showtime, then I think they can continue to put on shows and grow, but if they jump into the PPV arena I think they’re toast.

I don’t see how they make money with Showtime.

I think showtime still sells the PPV, so it is still PPV venue.

They are in the PPV arena I’ve purchased them and the one on the 15th will be my last,

“Yes we will want to see the fight, but in the days of internet we can just watch the fight the next day online somewhere. Definitely not worth $50 for 1 fight. That is like ordering a boxing PPV that gives you only 1 quality fight.

I don’t see how they make money with Showtime.

I think showtime still sells the PPV, so it is still PPV venue."
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

And you dare call this poor Jerry guy a foolio.

You guys act like Fedor is going to fight a can like mike Pyle or something…Fedor vs, Grim is going to be the main event on the fall card. yOu call Grim a can, then Fock you! Personally I would also like to see Fedor vs. Arlovski 2. Alistar wont fight a can either. He will probaby matched up against someone like Buentello so stp your crying.

Instead of appreciating the fact that we will see Fedor fight top 15 competition 3 times a year, you guys are bitching that he is in the UFC. Bitch at Dana for not cross promoting! Dont bitch at Fedor. Is it that unreasonable or Fedor ask for cross promotion? He is trying to plug his business by using his GOAT status. Doesnt sound so unreasonable to me considering he has gotten what he wants from numerous organizations in the past and now M-1 Gobal will get to splatter their logo all over Showtime and eventually CBS. Why would Fedor accept the Ufc’s offer when he can get exactly what he wants elsewhere?

Is it unreasonable to ask any business man to shell out 95% of the cost and split the profits in half? Really, Fedor is it. Who else do they have to cross promote with? So let me get this straight, If we were hanging out it would be reasonable for you to buy appetizers, dinner, drinks, the movie, and popcorn, but I’ll pay for dessert, deal? That is what people want Dana to do. Cross promote means more then offering Fedor. He is a crappy US draw to begin with, but Dana should cover 90% of the evening and M1 will just bring Fedor and all the sponsors gear. Find a business man willing to do that and you have found a business man that won’t be in business real long!

Great post monkey. I been argueing the same myself. What M1 are doing can no way be described as “Co-promoting”. Leaching, spongeing, hijacking or piggybacking are better words to describe the arrangement.

To answer your question, YES it is completely unreasonable for M-1 to ask for cross promotion with the UFC when they aren’t even in their league to begin with. I don’t blame Dana at all, he is protecting his brand, and he/UFC should not be expected to hand any % of their profits over to M-1 for any reason, that should be a deal between a fighter and a company, not 2 company’s and 1 fighter.

Attack I had seenyou arguing that earlier and could respond from work…It is amazing to think that money and business aren’t the driving force here. I don’t care what promotion it is. Everyone says Dana doesn’t care about mma it is about money. Of course it is about money, how can he continually bring you the best of the best month after month, sometimes twice a month, without making about and making sound money/biz decisions. Brand is everything! Every mma company out theres ultimate goal is to make the most amount of profit while putting out the most marketable(BEST) fights (product). M1 offers 1 product in a catalog full of items. Yeah it maybe one of the best things in the catalog, but nodoby is going to order it if it unreasonably priced or doesn’t perform the way it is supposed to.

Unless he sells his 20% stake, he’s one of the Russian gangsters. As a fan of Fedor the fighter, it pains me to see the truth about Fedor the businessman.

lol

Fedor takes this one quite easily. I would love to see Alistair beat the shit out of him though.

Lol

HAHA “There’s a reason they call him the Insane One. Under the training of Tito Ortiz, Justin McCully has shown he is a dangerous threat. Fedor will have his hands full”

HAHA – that is just how they do it! They just say stuff like that, and the casual fan that just happens to have showtime will believe it all.

LOL 2

Fedor vs Christian Santos 4 the wamma unisex title.

“With 77 career boxing wins, not to mention success in both K1 and Pride, KO specialist and 416lb behemouth Eric “Butterbean” Esch could yet be Fedor’s toughest ever opponent".

“This guys a wrecking machine, he’s even won fights by staredown. Jeff Monson is a comlete mixed martial artist and probably the baddest dude in the HW division right now. Fedor taking him on is huge. This guy can do it all.”

rolls clips of Roy Nelson vs Jeff Monson to scarey dramatic spartan like music

“A real journeyman. Almost a .500 record and he is an animal. Alistair will be really challenged in his next fight with Jason “Clay’s brother” Guida. This guy has some amazing fat rings around his waist and if he gets on top of Alistair, they are both leaving the ring tired!"

“A true veteran, Art Jimmerson has been around since the beginning of MMA. Art fought and nearly beat the greatest Mixed martial artist of all time, Royce Gracie. He has a professional boxing record of 33-18 and was the 1983 Minnesota GOLDEN GLOVES champion!!!! Fedor has good hands but no one can expect him to not be in dire straits if this fight stays standing.”

For those of you who don’t think this is funny, Art is the guy who fought at UFC 1 with one boxing glove and one taped hand. Now its funny, isn’t it?

LOL

“You thought Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture was the greatest heavyweight fight of all time, you were wrong!”

The man, the myth, the beer drinker. TANK ABBOTT! Returns to action after off of his huge upset win over the younger, stronger Mickey Bourke where he brutally knocked out Bourke in what sure was a war. Now he begins his comeback, and retake his rightful throne as the greatest heavyweight. Standing in his way is that fatass russian, Fedor “A million Ankles”.

In the co-main event we have Fabricio Werdum getting his chance at redemption when he faces Andrei the Pitbull Arlovski. These two had an epic battle in there first match, and are looking to repeat history with another exciting fight.

In in the red corner he is an expert at kicking cameramen in the nuts, wrestling for WCW, and good friends with Hulk Hogan The Celebrity Wrestling Champion of the world Dennis Rodman

I’m gonna keep doing this until it stops being funny to me.
“Although previously thought to be dead, Kimo Leopoldo represents a serious threat to Alistair. Although he lost to Royce Gracie at UFC 3, Royce was so demolished after his fight he had to retire from competition. Kimo has steroid strength and can actually kill a bear. Thats right, a Bear!”

“This fight will pit the greatest Mixed Martial Artist of all time against a legendary boxing world champion, who is coming off a KO win over a former UFC HW champion in 10 seconds. Fedor Emelianenko will face his greatest challenge as he takes on one of the all time greats Ray Mercer. Boxing and MMA fans will finally find out which sport is better.”

BREAKING NEWS

Muhammad Ali is coming out of retirement for one last hoo rah, some say he can’t do it, some say he’s too old, some say the parkinsons has set in too bad, but “The Greatest” isn’t having any of it! The kicker? He’s jumping right into MMA to face Fedor Emelienanko! Here’s more from Scott Coker:

“This really could be the greatest fight in MMA history; we’re looking at a man who is pound for pound the greatest boxer on the planet; Ali hasn’t fought in a while so I expect a little ring rust, but the man is in terrific condition. Parkinsons? Never heard of it; anyhoo; this is going to be the greatest challenge of Fedor’s carreer, if he can beat a legend like Ali, who’s only slightly past his prime, than he truely is the greatest fighter on the planet!”

LOL.

You have truly lost your mind, O Damn.

First, Strikeforce hasn’t announced Fedor’s first fight, so assuming it’s a “can” is just that, an assumption. Second, I can’t believe you guys are talking about Strikeforce hyping up fights when the UFC had most casual fans thinking that Frank Mir was arguably the best HW in the world before UFC 100. If anyone is good at hyping fights at any cost it’s the UFC. That’s why most of you thought that Alves and Penn were going to beat GSP, while some of us knew there was a very slim chance of that happening. I bet there are some people posting above that were actually really impressed when A. Silva beat "Super feared, devastating striker JAMES “THE SANDMAN” IRVIN" to help cement his spot as UFC’S proclaimed “best fighter on the planet”. Remember what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

damn o damn that was amazing, hilarious post

Well Diceman, as far as the posts up top about hyping up a fight, it’s just for fun, havin a couple laughs. Imo, winning against Nog earned Frank is Title shot against Brock. I’m not sure how thats part of the argument though, if you’re opinion is that Mir is complete garbage and not a top fighter then thats your opinion. As for Fedor’s situation it says up top that Coker wants to build him up to fight Overeem. So by default at the very least he’s gonna go up against someone that isn’t considered/recognized as being good as Overeem. Then the whole “build up” thing, leads me to believe Coker has a pre determined outcome that he’d like to see come to fruition. Maybe they didn’t throw around the cash that the UFC did in aquiring Fedor, but he’s got to be their high dollar guy. I don’t see them risking him against a dangerous guy other than Overeem or Brett Rodgers, so imo this next fight will be a gimme.

you nailed it M1globalcanSuckYOURBalls, (I wouldnt let them near mine, they may end up looking like the hobit and be overated)

• Fight Announcement and Promo ****

Strikeforce has been searching for the #2 fighter in the world to take on the world’s #1, Fedor Emelianenko. After a long negotiation process and contract dispute, Scott Cokehead got the deal done. But Fedor’s opponent also needed to get his job done, and he did!!! Jason “The Punisher” Lambert needed to add some weight for the CSAC to allow the worlds undisputed #2 fighter to take on Mr. Emelianenko. What better part of the body for Jason Lambert to add weight other than his sausage tits? Jason has been eating smorgasbords of premium Italian sausage and lucky for him, all of the weight has gone straight to his man boobs. Now once Fedor takes Lambert to the ground, he won’t know whether he should ground and pound him or suckle those big fat titties!

I also heard that a pink-haired smoothie shop worker wants to take the first fight with Fedor to see if he can back peddle – weak jab KO the new #1 fighter in the world. I like his chances since he already KO’d the previous #1 fighter in the world Kimbo.

VM-

Cl@ssic stuff, man.

I know you guys are just having fun O Damn, but I also know that most of you mean what you’re saying(making fun of Fedor). I think it’s a bit presumptive to say that because Coker is trying to build a fight up that this will necessarily mean that they are going to fight cans. I’m just saying that the UFC tries to build fights up too, but nobody wants to say anything about that. Which is why I said what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

ViolentMike – fantastic post!

At UFC 103 we bitched at the main event what did UFC do? We got Belfort. But really Strikeforce only has one or two other fighters and I’m sure they don’t want to throw there star Rogers in right now against Fedor?

Yea but realistically the competition in the UFC between the two combatants is closer to a level playing field. Mir did beat Brock the first time around and there were a lot of people given his skill set that thought he could do it again. And a lot of people that thought Brock was gonna smash him. I just mean the build up to that fight was realistic, either guy coulda won that fight. I’m just not sold on the idea that marketing Fedor vs TBA #?? HW fighter as a legit fight when you’re obviously bias towards building one guy up is the most exciting thing out there.

NOTE: I am still a big Fedor fan, I was just having fun at the end of the work day.

It is odamn. Fedor turns down the UFC and a guaranteed first fight for the belt, to fight two cans then Overeem in Strikeforce. Talk about testing yourself to the limits!

Th co-promotion, thing is the dumbest thig they could have done, Strike Force has gotten some momentum lately and their going to bring it to a halt with this move.

Fedor has just been fighting UFC outcasts, and it doesnt look like it will be changing anytime soon.

Overated overeem, is a joke. The Fact that fedor gets a couple of can fight prior the match-up make even more laughable.

I want this clown taken off the best P4P list all together.

Nick Diaz do not sign with Strike Farce after this contract PLEASE!

I Agree roj

To be fair Diaz has been given some big fights in Strikeforce and the WW and MW divisions are their strongest right now. I’ve enjoyed his catchweight fights and he’s doing well for himself in SF, it’d be great to see him and Shields in the UFC but right now I’m happy for both of them to be fighting in SF.

It’s the HW division that is the weak link because Overreem never even fights in the US anymore, he doesn’t even look like the same guy that destroyed Buentello for the belt. Fedor-Overreem would be a good first fight but it’s going to get put off because Coker must know that Alistair isn’t coming back and other than Grim and Werdum (who hasn’t even fought in SF yet) there is nobody else for Fedor to fight.

I don’t understand either. I want to be rational and think that Fedor is seeing something that all the fans aren’t, but I can’t figure it out. I guess it is all about money, which is sad because it seems like the UFC would have paid him well.

Maybe he didn’t want to fight the best? I don’t know. Only Fedor knows.

We’re gonna end up seeing him fight Nick Diaz… I bet he would do it too. Nick will fight anyone

Sad thing is Nick would take that fight no problem, the guy is a warrior and is quite happy to move up in weight to face bigger fighters in both size and name.

And that round house kick or w/e it was that Shogun caught him with was BEAUTIFUL; Chuck really wasn’t doin so hot but that fight came down to who had the better chin and back then Chuck’s chin was phenomenal. Chuck made him eat that huge flying knuckle sandwhich, the whacked out look in his eyes after being rocked by that haymaker was priceless.

LOL I seen him fight two or three times but I just remember Rua going to town on the big guy. Last time I seen him he looked even bigger but much slower I forget who it was against but he won by submission?

Sounds like either Mark Hunt or Gary Goodridge, those two HW legends!!!

I think he tapped Cro Cop via testicular trauma.

Probably Hunt, locking up that kimora on Goodridge would be a helluva feat considering how big the guys arms are.

Pretty sure that’s right. Couture is still working on the same agreement before talking a walk on the UFC after the Gonzaga fight.

Dos Santos has beaten Weldum, and Weldum is next in line for Fedor??? Rogers only big win is against a backward stepping AA so that doesn’t count. Kimbo would have had a chance that day

So Carwin is a can just becasue he hasn’t fought anyone in the top ten. dont think he can be classed as a can just on that basis, inexperience maybe. But he would hang in there with the best of them. He also beat Gonzaga who is no can, so for me he would destroy Overeem. Plus Overeem record isn’t great

Agreed Randy does need to beat Nog, but even one of those two would ask fedor more questions of fedor then any of the Strike force guys.

If there isn’t a HW in the UFC for Fedor to face ALL other HW’s around the world are worse then cans because all UFC HW would beat the others out there. So going on your theory Fedor should just fight Brock then retire.

Who has a better HW division then UFC? Don’t be bias

I should know better, but o well here goes..

Dos Santos KO’d Werdum, thats probably SF’s #2 or #3 HW; Overeems been KO’d/destroyed by LHW’s in his carreer, thats their #1 HW and Grimm is still too green to be considered a credable threat to Fedor. Sh!t I’d give Herring a 50/50 shot at beating Overeem; and as far as Cain Valasquez and Shane Carwin, they’d kill any of those guys, maybe Werdum could play the sub game off his back and make somethin happen but doubtful. To be fair, I don’t really know about Rodgers, maybe he is the real deal and will prove to be a great HW fighter, but right now a 30 sec flash KO on AA doesn’t tell me enough about his all around game to make a judgment.

Anyway, it’s clear the better competition is by far and away in the UFC, unlike you guys who just assume Fedor is going to own anyone they put in front of him, I’d actually like to see it happen first before I just write everyone else off. And I’d like to see it happen against the BEST the division has to offer, not the second best set of HW’s in the #2 org. If you can call what they have in SF a division, cause seriously, outside of like 4-5 guys who else is there??

Intro’s on crack dude, he’s trying to sit here and say (and I feel sadly enough that he really truely believes his own bs) that Valasquez, Couture, Nog, Mir, Kongo, Carwin, Dos Santos are weaker fights against Fedor than Overeem, Werdum, Grimm, hmm Grimm… Grimm and… hmm, who else?? There’s like 4-5 guys in the SF HW division for god sakes!! come on…

You’ve got alot of “maybes, if’s, and’s, probably’s, and but’s” in that post, O damn.

The fact is that the Strikeforce guys (outside of Fedor) are interchangeable with the UFC guy’s (outside of Brock…and even he is “green”)…you can all do the math and write all the scenarios you want…..as long as every fighter that Fedor faces is an underdog, it doesn’t matter who he fights right now.

Brock is obviously the fans choice for an opponent, but even if Fedor beat him in 30 seconds, you’d all be saying “wait until Brock is better…then we’ll see”.

It’s a lose, lose for Fedor no matter what he does…it’s lonely at the top.

Like I keep saying…Fedor has 3 fights left with M-1. It would be everyone’s best interst to let Fedor rid himself of those contracted fights in Strikeforrce since the UFC won’t let him do it with them.

Fedor ain’t ducking a guy with 4 or 5 pro fights. He’s at Strikeforce becasue he is contractually obligated to fight 3 fights under the M-1 banner…simple as that.

You can all believe whatever Mr. Potty Mouth White feels he needs to say about Fedor, but the fact is Fedor has a contract with M-1 and he didn’t sign with the UFC, becasue he’d be stuck in litigation…just like Randy Couture was a years ago with the UFC. Where was everyone with the “Randy is ducking Fedor” talk when he didn’t go ahead with his fight with Fedor? It wouldn’t make any more sense to say that Fedor is ducking Brock right now than it would to say that about Randy back then.

Fact is #1 should be fighting #2, if you’re trying to tell me thats what Fedor’s doing and that he’s fighting the best competition out there than you’re on crack.

I’m not accusing him of ducking anyone; I just don’t get the sense behind this co promotion business. He’s a fighter, but he’s got an entire company that comes with him?? You can’t sign Fedor without giving M-1 some % of the profits of your show? Thats ludicrious! Maybe you’re right, and maybe after this is over he signs with the UFC; but I sincerely doubt it.

Intro mate you really are high. There were alot of “if’s and maybe’s” well of course there are you tu*d as it hasn’t happened yet. Grim is still a BIG if & Maybe so is Weldum and Overeem record doesn’t set the world alight.

Grim wouldn’t break UFC top 5
Weldum was dumped by the UFC
Overeem is ok, and would pose one good (ish) fight for Fedor but other then that i would rather see Kimbo fight Fedor. If, maybe, might be, could be, hope so, what if, fingers crossed!!!!!!!!

Dana is a hot head but we have to thank him for the continual existence of MMA and its massive growth. But as a business man i exactly know where he is coming from with this. Why Co-Promote when the UFC have it down to a fine art. Fedor has disrespected his fans here, they want him to fight the best and that is in the UFC (if it was outside the UFC then fair enough). He has chosen money over fans and his career. TW@T

Also please explain why green (your words) fighters don’t deserve a shot if Dos Santos does Cro Cop (having Weldum and Cro cop on his record) he would be up there with Carwin and Cain. Sorry there was an If there because i couldn’t jump in my time travelling machine to see what actually happens

Part of me really thinks you are one of those people that just sit on the other side just to be controversial. You don’t mean what you type.

Fedor doesn’t “need a tune-up”…it’s Strikeforce’s decision…not his.

How do you know it is Strikeforces’ decision? The best fighter in the world should demand to fight the best they have to offer. Anything else is just a waste of time.

“How do you know it is Strikeforces’ decision?”

Because it was the Strikeforce people that stated it.

then it must be true.

Sounds like someone is drinking the SF Kool Aid.

I am not assuming Randy will win. There are a # of scenarios where those 2 fights could have taken place.

Also you are assuming who Fedor will fight. Did Croker ever mention any names besides Alistair? So who knows? They just matched up Werdum with a LHW, so their match making is questionable. Personally, I would have liked to see Fedor step up and help save a cursed card and fight Werdum next weekend. It’s not like he wasn’t ready.

Daniel you ready to see my #1 fighter in the world take out Anderson? I like you dont necissarily go for the champions or the sure things. For pete’s sake my favorite lightweight is Clay Guida. I will look forward to posting Saturday after the fight.

I agree with everything you said about the whole Fedor situation, but you left out where M1 wanted half the gate…I could be misquoting but i thought that was what they were looking for. If I’m Dana im not touching that with a 10 foot pole

I understand it, I’m just not very excited about seeing him fighting guys he should be beating anyway. Where’s the excitement? Where’s the build up for an epic clash between two elite warriors that could end eachothers night at any second of the fight? No, it’s a one sided beatdown instead, barring an insane upset happening there’s no mystery as to the outcome of these fights. It’s lame.

Ha ah ralphie I’m with ya on guida he is too sweet! The carpenter wins best nickname to besides Mcrory who has barn cat locked down as best overall! And ya I’m still anti bk Penn!

And as for m1 wanting half the gate? That’s not bad. That’s not ppv remember, the gate stands to make 5 mill. Big deal. And I am not helping here but they were offered a % of ppv too but the deal was 30 mill from including/working with the ppv/gate intake. So it wasn’t quite as juicy as a flat out 30 mill + +. Never the less go kenflo! Bk no!

And forest will be crippled after spider is don’t with him. We already had this fight! Ya better be back on Sunday! 4 days! Whoop whoop pumped for the countdown tonight. Should be some good laughs from this colorful crew of fighters

MAN!!! F that.I wouldnt cross promote either. you dont see Coke and Pepsi or Nike and Reebok teaming up to sell more cola and shoes. I wouldnt consider Fedor #1 anyway.The level of competition isnt there so if thats what he chooses then f-em.

Yeah plus since he is a 20% owner in M-1, how will he ever be done with them?? Maybe I’m wrong……..

And he’s “humble” and only wants to be remembered as a “good person”.