UFC Quick Quote: Tito Ortiz' 'new beginning' starts today
by MMAmania.com on Jul 31, 2009 6:24 AM EDT
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"A new beginning starts tomorrow (Friday, July 31, 2009). I have stood my ground as a fighter and business man. Now my fans will get to see the best of me. New back, new mind, and new motivation. Every fighter will thank me later. Let the punishment begin!"
-- Former UFC light heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz updates his fans via his personal MySpace.com page about big news on the horizon concerning his fighting future. It's expected that UFC President Dana White will announce today at 2 p.m. ET that the "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" will return to the Octagon after a huge rift was apparently patched up at the fan expo earlier this month. Ortiz is coming off major spinal fusion surgery to correct a back problem that plagued him in his most recent bouts. His last appearance was in May 2008 -- a unanimous decision loss to now 205-pound champion, Lyoto Machida. Speculation has swirled that Ortiz could return to competition as soon as UFC 103 on Sept. 19, but nothing is official at this time. Care to guess who may be the first to get punished?
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SWEET…Love him or hate him he is fun to watch and talk about…he better back everything up though. Should be fun to watch.
by Luke on Jul 31, 2009 6:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is an attraction to him that’s for sure… whether you want to see him win or get smashed people want will pay to see him.
Tito is in the business of promoting Tito. Dana recognizes what Tito can bring to the UFC, win or lose.
by DJ on Jul 31, 2009 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
REPORT:
tito will replace Bisping as Wanderlai’s opponent!
by newfie on Jul 31, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if true it’ll go a lot like the first fight imo
by McArthur on Jul 31, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’ll be good to see him back though, no matter who he fights. But let’s hope it’s Franklin.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, but I like Franklin more and would therefore want him to win, but I want Tito to do well, so if he fights Franklin one of them has to lose, so perhaps another match-up would be better.
But he deserves a warm-up fight before fighting someone of Franklin’s caliber, so perhaps Coleman isn’t so bad. Bones is pretty good too, as there would be no shame for Tito to lose to him and the same would apply for Bones, if he lost to Tito.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like the Bones matchup! that would be awesome
by newfie on Jul 31, 2009 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. It’s high time Bones faces a bigger name (again). Even if he loses, he’s got heaps of time to improve. It’s win-win.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but have we forgotten that Tito is not that good? besides beating up on an old piece of crap ken shamrock, what has this guy done in the last 4 years? pretty well nothing.
by newfie on Jul 31, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but he had a good run as champ (a thousand years ago) and has beaten some top guys like Belfort and Griffin and is a gamer. I don’t think he’ll be a contender but he’s a force in his own right. He’s at least a worthy opponent.
On another note dudes, have a look at Tito Ortiz on Wikipedia; does it look like to you in his picture that he’s leaning on one side of his arse and letting out a fart, much to his own amusement? LOL
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think he’d pose trouble for a lot of the LHW roster, such as Jardine, Forrest, Rashad, Thiago Silva. But I dont see him ever doing anything against Machida, Shogun, Anderson Silva or Rampage.
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way that Tito’s first fight back with the UFC will be against Bones Jones. That is waaay to risky of a fight. The UFC doesn’t want to sacrafice Tito to the 21 year old up and comer in his first fight back. Maybe in his 3rd, but they need to try and build Tito up as a legit star. Losing a decision to Franklin would be no where near as bad as any loss to Bones. In Tito’s first fight back he will not be a stepping stone for an up and comer.
I fully expect UFC 103 to be Tito vs Rich Franklin. Anything else and I’d be completely shocked.
Imagine we come to find out that the UFC and M-1 were just pulling our tails and UFC 103 main event will be Tito Ortiz vs Fedor Emelianenko. LOL
by ViolentMike on Jul 31, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito needs more time to train. Vitor Belfort is in fighting shape and I could see him taking on either Hendo or Franklin at 103. I think that Tito fighting Franklin makes a lot of sense but he has had a year long layoff, surgery, recovered from injuries etc. He just started training fairly recently. If he fights Franklin, he won’t come into the fight in good shape.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 31, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito should be back in late october/november or something, it’s very dangerous to go back in action too fast after an injury!.. Jon Jones is not an option, that’s insane to think that he’d fight him!..
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito’s guaranteed wins are T.Silva, Jardine, Wanderlei, Coleman, Bonnar obviously, and all other losers..
Forrest is gonna be a guaranteed win for Tito once he’s back in shape too
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyways its gonna be Ortiz replacing Bisping against Silva…
by newfie on Jul 31, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Wanderlei is at middleweight now. And there’s no way Tito would or could go to middleweight.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he specify why every fighter will be thanking him?
by PW on Jul 31, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I love how he throws in, “Let the punishment begin!” at the end. I can’t help but like Tito. It’s the same with BJ Penn as well; both guys display shades of narcissism but I still like them.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
think tito would cut make 185? or does he head weigh approximately 185?
by newfie on Jul 31, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC is where TITO belongs. Any other smaller promotion would be an insult. Time for some PUNISHMENT in the UFC once again, kick some ASS TITO.
by TaPouT on Jul 31, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito will fight Coleman first. He likes esay fights.
As far as the post above saying that Tito will ‘replace Wand against Bisping’, Wand was never slotted to face Bisping in the first place. That was an unsubstantiated rumor, gosh forbid. I doubt they’ll put Tito on a free card anyway, he is worth PPV dollars and will probably be earning a pretty penny.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito is back and is soon to be a force to be reckoned with again!
by Randy for Couture on Jul 31, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well..i dunno..i’d like to be surprised and see that his back was one of the probs..that maybe he will switch up training and finally step out of his old ways..he could be an exciting fighter..so i will not rip on him until i see his first fight back from the void..
by sarah on Jul 31, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy should drop down to 205 lbs just to kick his @ss again.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 31, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats right Rob, Randy has better hands, better wrestling, and is all around the better fighter. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. ;)
by O damn he got caught on Jul 31, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and his first fight back will be against…some one from TUF. Matt Hammil? lol…j.k. How bout Coleman??? Maybe a James Irvin!
by Luke on Jul 31, 2009 6:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree, the Hendo rematch doesn’t really make too much sense.
I think its a good fight for Tito too. Franklin’s T/D defence isnt top notch and he lacks the KO power to knock Tito out.
by Nick J on Jul 31, 2009 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what? do i need to go down the list of people rich has knocked out?
by child on Jul 31, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, cause it’s not that many.. and Tito has a better chin than all of them! Tito’s defense and chin is of the best in the LHW division.. Tito’s also very good at throwing knees and elbows inside the clinch where Rich has huge problems!
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t say the BEST defense, RoB, but he definitely has an underrated defensive game, which is to say, he has a very good defense. But it’s overlooked because people don’t think he has good stand-up. He has solid stand-up though, it’s just not particularly conspicuous.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evan Tanner twice, Matt Hammill, Nate Quarry, Travis Lutter, Ken Shamrock . . .
by PW on Jul 31, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito’s defense is top class in the LHW div, I didn’t mean the best but def one of the best.. his standup is good, you will never see Tito eat bombs like Wand, Chuck and some other guys do cause of his defense and now that he can move better he should be able to turn better and faster into his punches..
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not impressive PW, most of those wins are TKO’s..
Tito would never allow himself to get tagged like that..
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roberto what rock are you coming out from? He let chuck do that twice to him
by Ralphie on Jul 31, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but they had history as training partners and therefor Chuck had a mental edge on Tito..
Rich doesn’t hit that hard either, he couldn’t take Wand out and he won’t have a chance to take Tito out.. First fight against Chuck was also a big poke in the eye which made Tito defenseless, it was pretty much same thing as what happened to Anthony Johnson only that Tito stood there and took the beating
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, looks like someone is wearing Tito-colored glasses. The fact is that if he gets right into the cage with Franklin after almost two years of inactivity he will get destroyed.
by PW on Jul 31, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I am! The fact here is that i realize they won’t fight at 103 so im talking about a Tito back in form to fight Franklin.
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Rob, I don’t agree with you on anything Tito, but I can appreciate blind-faith nut-hugging. I’m on Lesnar’s nuts, and that’s about an equally unpopular place to be as Tito’s nuts.
by PW on Jul 31, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
something tells me 103 might be too early for him…he was saying a november or december return a couple weeks ago
by McArthur on Jul 31, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I would love to see the fight in the future and I wish it could take place at 103, but that is just too soon for Tito to be back in good fighting shape.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 31, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bonnar or Coleman then Forest or Randy imo
by McArthur on Jul 31, 2009 6:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, that’s a good warm-up fight — Bonnar.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would mark the end of Bonnars tenure with the UFC. The guy couldn’t cope with Colemans wrestling and non existant offence, Tito would destroy him!
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sick man mcarthur. You want to see an 87 year old man die in the octagon? Shame on you ;-)
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Mac =) for some reason i see them being pretty good friends.. but Tito would smash him and we would be back!
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Every fighter will thank me later”
Yup after they’ve KO’d your big head out of the octagon!
by JonnyBoy on Jul 31, 2009 6:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see him come back and make a statement. I’m not a huge fan of his, but he’s done a lot for ground and pound. I want to see if he’s evolved. Even if he’s an underdog, he’s going to add hype to ppv – because so many people want to seem him lose/win.
by izx on Jul 31, 2009 6:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could not agree more … be nice to see him come back and smash Rashad :)
by DownUnder on Jul 31, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Rashad, I always have (well when he spoke so loftily prior to fighting Bisping I didn’t like it). But as much as I like Rampage, I think I would rather see Rashad beat him.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad will beat Rampage, he trains at a proper camp with real fighters and gameplanners. Whereas Rampage trains with a bunch of scouse kickboxers at Wolfslair with the worlds worst wrestling coach. Their idea of gameplanning is to get Bizzzzbing to circle into Hendo’s big right and for Kongo to clinch and fall to the ground against Velazquez instead of pushing away and creating room to land more strikes.
Rampage is so predictable now, just looks to throw big bombs and doesn’t utilise his wrestling base at all. Jackson will have a plan for him especially as he’s already sent out his advance scout Keith Jardine to gather intelligence.
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree A-Dawg. I just have a haunting image of Rashad falling stiff on the canvas. I hope not.
As well as the KO power, Rampage still is difficult to beat striking. He has KO power and good defense. Rashad is a better wrestler (not that Rampage isn’t a good either) but I see this fight mostly staying on the feet, and Rashad getting a decision because, as you said, he has a better camp, but also because he’s a smarter fighter.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good analysis kobajack, I too see it staying standing, and if Rashad can learn to leg kick, he’s got it in the bag!
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright attakdog, I think you got it right with Tito posing problems for some of the 205’ers and not the top guys, and your gameplanning analysis for Bisping and Kongo seems about right!
by JackScratch on Jul 31, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with both of your analyses attackdog and Kobajack…Bumpage should go back to Big Bear and train with Tito at least…Wolfslair doesn’t seem to have their act together and the performances from Bisping and Kongo are proof of that. Quinton has become a great boxer but he really needs to diversify his arsenal if he wants his belt back.
Rashad learned his lesson against Machida about sticking to the same game plan for every fighter and will have a tailor made game plan for Rampage. Rashad will get Quinton’s timing down just like he did against Forrest and Chuck and start to penetrate that great boxing defense. I think we will see more leg kicks out of Rashad since Jackson doesn’t bother with wrestling anymore and even if he did…Evans’ wresling with neutralize his. I think the loss to Machida is going to do wonders for Rashad’s career…no shame in losing to him but it’s good to get that first loss out of the way and know what it feels like.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 31, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did any of you see Rashad on MMA Live? How he impersonated Mike Tyson and his mum (mom)? He did it really well. Rashad is cool. I like him.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you guys talking about? Rampage is going to beat Rashad in the standup cause Rashad’s defense is too weak and it will only take a couple of punches cause he’s got way bigger punching power than Liddell and Griffin.. He’s going to outwrestle him too! Rashad’s wrestling isn’t that good, he got taken down 10 times against Sean Salmon, got taken down by Bisping hahaha and has been taken down by almost everyone of his opponents when they tried to..
Rampage outwrestled Dan frickin Henderson enough said!
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we argued our case pretty well Rob. Rampage has grown lazy and predictable and fights at a cr@p camp. Nuff said.
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad didn’t get taken down 10 times against Salmon…Rashad was sloppy back then and not nearly as refined as he is now. Salmon was a division 1 wrestler as well. I’m not saying Rashad is a better wrestler than Quinton but it’s hard to guage cause neither uses their wrestling as much so it’s a tough one to call but I think they’re relatively a wash.
After the loss to Machida and with an upcoming fight with Page…I’m pretty sure Rashad will be working on his defense and it’s not like Rashad can’t take a punch. Machida unloaded many bombs before Rashad went out but he can’t take that many punches like that against Page. The difference is…Page isn’t as dynamic a striker as Machida. Bumpage is a rockem sockem robot and he comes straight forward…never working angles. Anyone with mediocre footwork will cause Rampage problems like Griffin and Jardine…Rashad’s footwork is better than both of them.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 31, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points, Buster.
The stand-up will definitely be interesting to see who gets the better out of the exchanges. Rampage has more power, but Rashad is quicker and feints more.He also mixes it up a lot more. Even though there’s a higher chance of Rashad getting knocked out than Rampage, I don’t see that being likely (but still possible, nonetheless). I see Rampage losing but not by KO.
Either way, I think it’ll be pretty close.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s fun how all of you judge him from his last fight, what about all of Rampage’s other fights? where he displayed beautiful defense against Wanderlei and Chuck came back with fight ending hooks, he did that against Forrest too, infact Rampage is one of the best in the LHW division at working angles!..
his footwork in those fights was looking great and his cover & roll is legendary!
Rampage also said he was overtrained against Jardine and i believe him, he needed some time off there..
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad is nowhere near as good of a striker as Rampage is, I mean he moves well and is an explosive striker, but when you break down his actual skill there’s not much to take and that’s not something you can learn just over one camp.. he’s carrying his hands very low, like he’s Roy Jones or something, that won’t work against Rampage..
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RoB, since when did we say he doesn’t have good defense or good stand-up? If you read above I actually made a point that he DOES have good defense.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally Rampage is stronger than all of Rashad’s opponents so he’ll take him down whenever he wants to, did he not take Jardine down 2 times in their fight?
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not arguing with you Koba, im arguing with Buster here who listened too much to what Rashad had to say when he commentated for his buddy Jardine when he fought Rampage..
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You make good points, RoB (regarding the difference in their stand-up). I’m not saying I totally agree, but they’re valid. But as I said, I think Rashad will mix it up more and put together a smarter game plan.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, RoB, fair enough. I just took “It’s fun how all of you judge him . . .” to mean all of us. All good.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, It’s all good, I enjoy reading your posts anyway so it’s good that you took it that way.
I don’t know which Rampage will show up but im assuming that the real Rampage shows up meaning the best Rampage, and he was far from his best in his last fight so if that Rampage shows up he’ll probably lose!
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage is a great boxer but he doesn’t move all that well cause he sits back on his heels…hence why he takes so many kicks and is slow to react to them and does a poor job at checking them. I agree about his cover and roll move…he’s the best at that and it’s deadly. To say Rashad is nowhere near the striker that Quinton is is simply foolish. Rashad has come into his own when it comes to striking. He’s great at timing his opponents and capitalizing on his. He’s not a boxer like Jackson…he’s a freestyle striker. Rashad hangs his hands lower to feint and bait opponents similar to what Chuck would do and he’s fast enough to pull that off. I hope he’s more refined against Page though. Their styles are definitely different but to say they are far apart is foolish. I wouldn’t say Rampage is the best at working angles…I’m afraid that person’s name is Machida…and then it’s Rashad.
Jackson is not going to take down Rashad at will. He did well grappling with Hendo and Rashad is a better wrestler than Jardine. I’m not saying Page can’t take him down but he won’t be doing it at will. Rashad has great takedowns…he leads with strikes and is great at changing levels to get the takedown.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 31, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyways Rob…you make some great points about Quinton and I think we can both agree this is going to be the most anticiapted fight of the year. We’ve got a long time to debate this one.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 31, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t care at all about Tito. He is irrelevant. You know what messes up mobility and athletic ability? Spinal fusion surgery!
by Crayze on Jul 31, 2009 7:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nate Quarry looks better than ever.
by introvert on Jul 31, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Tito even spoke about Nate Quarry and how the surgery had helped him tons. I hope that it does the same for Tito. It would be exciting to see someone make waves in the 205 division.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 31, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what messes up everything is when you have back problems and Tito’s back problems are gone now…
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito’ll just find another excuse for under performing RoB…………….
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn you RoB, why wont you bite? Lol ;-)
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybey they will let him get some revenge on Chuck lol, as old as it sounds it would still draw lots of viewers.
by supercal on Jul 31, 2009 7:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yawn.
You could go back and watch a Tito fight from 2000 and you’ll see the exact same thing.
No evolution. He is a legend is his own mind though.
by KS on Jul 31, 2009 7:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
use to be a big Tito supporter
July 31st 2009, just don’t care anymore.
by markie on Jul 31, 2009 7:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, i hope Tito is back in the UFC. Tito gave Machida the longest run, and a good one at that. I actually dis-like Tito alot, but too see him back in the UFC would be awsome. I’ll jusify that by saying Tito can hang with alo of the 205ers…Not all of em, but enough to throw his name around…In saying all that…TITO ortiz can suckle on some moose knuckle..
by ndnman on Jul 31, 2009 7:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito is only good at hyping his own crappy self.
by Jack on Jul 31, 2009 7:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that the “my back” excuse is gone, he’ll have dozens of others. Yawn.
by Pumpp on Jul 31, 2009 7:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure if this was mentioned before but I thought it was completely biased that his first fight with Shamrock at UFC 40 didnt’t make the top 100 fights in UFC history. That fight should have been top 20, at the least!
by pUniSHment on Jul 31, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they should have had all of Tito’s fights… the crowd is going nuts every single time!
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad Tito is back, even though i dont really like him, you cant deny that he always puts on a show.
Even against Machida he did better than most people have.
by DirtyML on Jul 31, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great ….. I can start wearing my “Team Punishment” shirt again.
by Muscle Dolphin on Jul 31, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hehe. Me too. I can start wearing my Team Punishment thong again.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is dana’s press conference being shown anywhere??
by irishlilpete on Jul 31, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You guys that say he sucks? I don’t like him. But his last 3 fights were against ufc champs/former champs. Beating Forrest? Great. Beating Evans? (yes he did, if he didn’t lose 1 point for cage grabbing it wouldn’t have been a draw). Great! And going the distance with the supposed best 205’er ever? Great! So he is 50/50 in his last 3 fights 1-1-1. Big deal. All against champs. Ya he must suck. And as the article stated n so has every1 else he needed that surgery bad during those fights. I don’t even like the guy. Used to hate him, til I saw how good a coach he actually was compared to ken which actually surprised the hell out of me. I am in full support of tito back
by Daniel worby on Jul 31, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL MAKE ME LAUGH I DONT KNOW WHAT HE TALKING ABOUT LETS THE PUNISHMENT BEGIN . MAY BE TALKING ABOUT HIS ASS GETTING WHOPPED AGAIN , LETS FACE IT TITO IS WASHE UP FIGHTER
AND UFC RUNNING OUT OF STARS ALL THEY HAVE LEFT IS BROCK LESNAR EVEN GSP START BEEN BORING FIGHTER FROM STAND UP FIGHTER TO WRESLING HUGGING AND KISSING SHIT . ANDERSON SILVA ALL HE DOES FOR 15 MIN DANCING AND RUNNING , IF U MMA FAN U WILL UNDERSTAND
by hollaback on Jul 31, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can see something written down but I can’t read it. Oh wait, it’s because I CAN’T BE FUCKING BOTHERED READING ALL CAPITALS.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t bother reading it. Not only is it ALL CAPS, he doesn’t know what commas are…it’s painful.
by introvert on Jul 31, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya I thought mania used to not post ALL CAPS LOCK. But I guess it makes ur point SO VALID. Although everything he said was useless
by Daniel worby on Jul 31, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm well I tend to think it smarter for tito to hold off til 105 n get some rest n training after his surgery it usually doesn’t turn out that they announce the return of a fighter w/o him competing in the immediate future, which I assume Dana is doing at lunch today. So I feel we’ll probs see him sooner then 105. (103) but I’m fine with being wrong.
by Daniel worby on Jul 31, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
English not your first language then hollaback???? Not the second or third either by the looks of that garbled mess you call a post!
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m an mma fan. Been one for coming up on 10 years now. And I think everything you just said was a WASTE OF TIME. IN CAPS LOCK. Ur probs 20 years old n Hollaback tells me that u should stick to listening to no doubt. Also if ya think gsp hugs n kisses his opponents then ya clearly are a newbie and don’t understand the sport. Also spider will change ur tune in 8 days. And Brock is ur only valid ufc fighter? Yikes! Maybe try asking mom to get cable in the trailer so you can @ least see some old fights on spike n catch up a lil bit. Thanks
by Daniel worby on Jul 31, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does tito suck so bad, when anyone who he has lost to uses their victory over him as major accomplishments in their careers? Either he sucks and Randy, Chuck, and Machida accomplished fuck all except beating a tomato can, or they accomplished something by beating him, and he is a good fighter. Can’t have it both ways.
Tito will be a challenge for anyone in the LHW division if he trains properly. Tito’s problem is he burns so many bridges with other fighters that he loses training partners. There are only so many good training camps, and sad to say Team Punishment is just not good enough to improve Tito’s game. How can he improve if he is only training with guys that he can toss around all day?
I think that Tito needs to take a step back from his “villain” role. Now that Brock Lesnar has pretty much taken over the role of the “dickhead” in the UFC, it would be wise for Tito to leave that shit alone, train with ATT, Couture, Greg Jackson, etc… so he can be challenged in training.
If Tito does this right and does train with some good camps, he’ll be fighting for a title shot within the next year. If he stays in Big Bear and beats up on lesser tier fighters for two months before each fight….he’ll end up at about .500 at the end of his contract and that will be that.
SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE AND CALL GREG JACKSON, TITO !!!!!!
by introvert on Jul 31, 2009 9:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree, Intro. He should see this as a new beginning and start afresh with a new team.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, after I posted this it came to me…Tito should hook up with the Wolf’s Lair. He and Rampage are pals, and could you image how much Congo would teach Tito in stand up?…that place would help him immensely.
by introvert on Jul 31, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Although Wolf’s Lair is copping a lot of flack for Bisping’s and Kongo’s performances. I don’t think they deserve all of it. And Tito could help Kongo with his wrestling too.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep only that Tito won’t be going to the UK anytime soon..
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can see that Rampage and Tito has trained boxing defense together, they’re both pretty good at it..
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kongo is beyond help in the wrestling dept and the only thing Kongo could teach Tito is how to knee your opponent continually in the ball sack and get away with it!
Tito should defo hook up with Wolfslair if he wants his career to stagnate or go backwards very fast.
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, no matter where he goes, it’s gotta be somewhere other than Big Bear with guys that will just kiss his ass all day, rather than beat his ass.
That’s all I’m sayin’.
by introvert on Jul 31, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. As RoB said, it wouldn’t happen anyway.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although Intro, I agree, if he went to Greg Jackson, or ATT or someone else, it would help him a lot.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Infinitely more than the scouse kickboxers at Wolfslair ever could!
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito/Rampage/Vera needs to train together…
by RoBerto on Jul 31, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be cool if he trained at wolfslair because Tito has fought both Rashad and Machida so he could help Rampage possibly get past Rashad and if he did that, then he could help Rampage against Machida.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 31, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Tito could show Rampage how to not land one single strike in 15 minutes against Machida. That would be helpful.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they will announce the signing of vitor and that he will fight henderson at 103 for the #1 contender match. tito willnot fight til 105 at the earliest
by titosback on Jul 31, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please be Bisping v Tito th shitt alking would be epic i’ll go to the event too. Bisping by tko
by Tony on Jul 31, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where do we start??? I think I’d better keep it simple!
Bizzzzbing is a MW and Tito is a LHW = Fight Not happening.
Bizzzzbing couldn’t TKO Tito if he brought a baseball bat to the octagon!
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wanderlei has stated his next defence will be something special and hes said hes not fighting for a while.i expect it to be tito.vitor belfort will fight hendo,leaving franklin to fight banha.
by scott on Jul 31, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“wanderlei has stated his next defence will be something special”
Defence of what? His good looks?
Wanderlai is moving down to MW now and Tito is most definitely a LHW, can’t see that fight happening anytime soon.
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes stated that its a fight against someone at a weight that will make the hairs on fans necks stand up.his words im just speculating!
by scott on Jul 31, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless he decides to put on 100lbs and take on Brock Lesnar, then the hairs on my neck will remain perfectly flat.
You failed to correct yourself about the “next defence” part either. You sure you weren’t reading an old Pride release from 2005?
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my bad defence cat,i meant next fight.could it be a title fight for the new 195lb class?
by scott on Jul 31, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
195lb class??? Do you know something we dont scott?
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no mate its just a rumour thats being banded around for the press conference.do you think it would be a good idea?i just cant see wanderlei getting down to 185 and the statement just dropped a little hint.maybe im reading too much into it.with silva and machida(will end up) dominating their respective weight classes it gives other fighters chance to be champions.on the flipside to that coin i already think too many people are jumping weightclasses so we would have a stacked 195 class with silva and machida getting no fights lol.
by scott on Jul 31, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nor me how can wanderlei fight for a title in a weight class hes just lost in.regardless of if it was close or not.the wanderlei article was in fighters only magazine.have a read.
by scott on Jul 31, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes more sense to have a heavyweight and super heavyweight class, before a 195Lb.
by KS on Jul 31, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do we all think Danas big press conference today is simply to welcome tito back? Or fare I bring up the f word? Lol not the swear.
by Daniel worby on Jul 31, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Belfort too and probably to have one of his legendary profanity ridden rants against Fedor.
by attakdog on Jul 31, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any word on whether this press conference is airing anywhere?
by introvert on Jul 31, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like him or not he helped make the UFC what it is today. If not fighting in the UFC he needs to be apart of the Hall of Fame.
by Xsjado on Jul 31, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TITO, TITO!
Im actually looking forward to seeing him back. I think there are some good fights to be had. And hes always entertaining.
by UK_Chris on Jul 31, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Spyder on Jul 31, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Belfort will never fight at 205 again. He looks awesome & unstoppable at 185, & it’s where he belongs. I don’t see that fight happenning with Tito.
I think a Tito vs. Wanderlei rematch would be perfect. Both are past their primes, yet the match is full of intrigue. After Tito won a close one so many years ago, Wanderlei of course went on a rampage in Pride that will never soon be forgotten, & Tito went on with a long run with his UFC title. A very good matchup between two veterans with a huge fan base that have a history together & can generate a lot of hype for two veterans.
by erba on Jul 31, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mania, I didn’t know tito was a former lightweight champ!lol.
by alex on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The best thing about Tito back in the UFC is seeing Jenna Jameson in the crowd again…Tito sucks!
by KillaC on Jul 31, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If headbutts were legal Tito would be #1 in multiple weight classes.
by DirtyML on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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