Dana White casts doubt on reaching UFC contract with Fedor Emelianenko
by Adam Wagner on Jul 31, 2009 7:14 PM EDT
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Don’t hold your breath on Fedor Emelianenko and the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) coming to terms on a contract anytime soon unless a major stumbling block is somehow surmounted.
After a wild week in mixed martial arts that saw one promotion fold entirely, several fighters wondering when their next paycheck will come, and enough press conferences to make you want to unplug your phone, the UFC isn’t any closer to signing the most feared heavyweight fighter in the world, Fedor Emelianenko.
And it’s not for lack of trying.
UFC president Dana White today recounted how he went in to recent negotiations with representatives for Emelianenko fully confident that the deal would get done.
"I was so confident this was going to happen," White said. "I went into this thing with the attitude ‘We’re going to make it happen, we’re going to make this thing happen.’ The fans really want to see this fight, I want to see how good this guy really is against the best in the world. And it didn’t happen."
White and the UFC have struggled to sign the Russian heavyweight for years, often expressing their frustration publicly. While speculation on why a deal couldn’t be reached in the past centered on everything from money to the UFC’s exclusive contracts forbidding the WAMMA champion from competing in his beloved sambo tournaments, White confirmed that he pulled out all the stops for this most recent deal, which he called "amazing."
"I literally did everything," White said before rattling off several of the obstacles that had existed in the past but are now not holding up the deal. "He got offered a fucking ass-load of money. A ton of money, everything that he wanted, he can go fight in sambo every fucking Thursday night if he wants to, he can do everything he wanted to do. And we showed him nothing but respect … I put my money where my mouth was, laid everything out and tried to make this thing happen, and they’re coming up with unrealistic shit."
Therein lies the rub.
The "unrealistic" demands include what Emelianenko’s manager, M-1 Global co-owner and president Vadim Finkelchtein, referred to during his own press conference held on Wednesday afternoon — that any deal to sign Fedor must include a co-promotion deal with M-1 Global, of which Emelianenko is partial owner.
White is adamant that the UFC will never co-promote with any organization, least of all with one that he sees as a bit fly-by-night.
"How are they going to come in and help us co-promote?" White asked. "It’s basically them coming in saying, ‘Hey, we’ve got this guy, and some people say he might be the best heavyweight in the world, so for that we want half your business.’ Yeah okay. That shit probably works in Russia (laughs). Not here."
White did say that if M-1 ever decides to pull the co-promotion sticking point off the table, he would welcome further negotiations. In fact, he said his offer still stands.
"We haven’t pulled anything back. We have an offer out to Fedor," White said. "They can call me right now, they can call me tomorrow, they can call me next month. I’m ready to roll. I’m ready to make this deal. The fans want to see this fight. It’s my job to make this fight happen. It’s what I do for a living, so I’m trying."
White thinks Emelianenko’s management’s refusal to come to terms on this deal shows "insanity." And when asked, White seemed to express a genuine confusion for what the big Russian must be thinking — for why doesn’t seem to want to fight in the UFC.
"I don’t know what the reasoning is," White said. "I’ve heard lots of different reasons on why he doesn’t — that he doesn’t like fighting with elbows, he doesn’t like this, he doesn’t like that. I don’t know what the answer is. The bottom line is, I think for the fans or any of the media to seriously call this guy the best in the world, let alone pound-for-pound, is fucking insanity when he won’t give you the fights the fans want to see."
Despite dishing out insults to Emelianenko and his management in the past, White insisted that during these recent negotiations, he was the consummate professional — the "nicest Dana ever." He and partner Lorenzo Fertitta went in ready to do whatever was necessary to sign Emelianenko, but that, in the end, the demand for a UFC/M-1 co-promotion was simply too much.
"We’ve done deals with the best fighters in the world over the last 10 years. There’s absolutely no reason why Fedor shouldn’t be fighting in the UFC right now."
Apparently, and unfortunately, there is.
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yaaaaaaaaaawn
I’m officially boycotting any Fedor news threads that don’t have “officially signed” in the title! It was fun debating the rumors and what we think, but it’s old! We have 4 or 5 events in the next month and guess what, Fedor isn’t fighting in any of them! They are “negotiating with other major organizations.” Where? Read Jerry Millen’s quote and you know there will be no Fedor in the UFC. My question is, if they laid out all costs and split it down the middle, say the costs of putting on a show is 20 million, where is M-1 coming up with 10 million? They’re not, Fedor is! Fedor, you’re the greatest HW ever, grow a pair and think for yourself!
who’s with me on the boycott?
it’s been too much Fedor and no real news!
by kevin on Jul 31, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do I keep reading about how you are boycotting Fedor threads in every Fedor thread I open?
But I agree with your sentiment, I am seriously considering getting off the Fedor bandwagon.
by noneed4name on Jul 31, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ive never been a G@ydor fan anyway. To make this boycott official, we need Mex’s stamp of aproval. Remember his one man boycott of EliteXC? LOL. Dana should remove any and all offers just because of Millen being part of M1.
by JV on Jul 31, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barnnett’s B sample is confirmed to be hot for ’roids as well. Just in case there was any lingering doubt.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fokman linked a good article interviewing Jerry Millen.
Millen keeps going on and on that it’s “not about the money” but then he uses a ridiculous basketball analogy (where Fedor is the ball) and that the UFC wants to play with M-1’s ball while they sit on the sidelines.
Fedor’s the fighter. This is about signing a fighter to fight, not about signing an organization to promote. Why would the UFC waste the effort and a whole event to help build another brand? Millen mentions Vadim and continues to say:
“Vadim doesn’t need the money. Vadim has other businesses in Russia.”
Those kind of business men, when they get the money game rolling, they wanna keep rolling in it. Millen says it’s about respect, but M-1 Global isn’t even half as worthwhile as Strikeforce let alone the UFC, so they should know their place.
“Dana White does not care about the best fights, he cares about the most money.”
Well, let’s be frank, Dana’s not running a fight charity, he’s running a business, and obviously makes the effort to seek a surplus. That doesn’t mean he’s not interested in putting on the fights which the fans want to see. Enough effort is used to build his own brand, why give a free ticket to another?
“If the UFC would have sat down, and conducted as a true co-promotion and say ‘ok we’ll do half M-1 fighters, and half UFC fighters.’”
A whole UFC event with a roster of half M-1 fighters? That’s ridiculous. If M-1 had a decent roster of, hmm, maybe even more than ONE recognizable fighter, that could be at least worth considering, not that the UFC should do it anyway. The UFC wants to sign Fedor, not a whole bunch of other no-names. That would mean they’re promoting and investing space on a card for fighters they don’t even want.
Fedor is one of the best fighters. The UFC is the best promotion, not only because it gets more media attention but because it has the best roster of fighters and therefore has the highest level of competition. Fedor should be fighting in a league which suits his skill.
I think Dana has proved that he tries to make fights that the fans want to see by trying, within reason, to acquire Fedor. The UFC doesn’t even NEED to have Fedor to still succeed. And if Fedor was signed and then lost, his value would usddenly decrease.I love Fedor, but there is still a possibility that he could lose.
As Dana said, regarding M-1’s proposal, “Yeah okay. That shit probably works in Russia. Not here.”
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldnt have said it better myself Kobajack!! Millen is a tool and to me that whole article shows how unrealistic they are being.
by Fokman on Jul 31, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, I would never read an interview or anything involving Millen because all that he spews out of his mouth is idiotic garbage. Still no one knows wtf he does besides being a hanger-on.
by NameNotRequired on Jul 31, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wanderlei on his next opponent:
“It’s going to be a big surprise to everybody," the former PRIDE FC middleweight champion told Planet Tatami.
"When I say against who and for what weight class people will get thrilled – the hairs on the back of their neck will stand up!"
Hmm. That sounds interesting.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Russians have been playing hardball with their elite athletes for decades. This business approach is nothing new. That’s why those that can defect (such as Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins) do so.
Over the years, Pavel Bure and Sergei Federov have been linked to more than Anna Kournikova. The Russian Mafia is one bad group of MOFO’s. A few years ago, a Nova Scotia company bought interest in a hotel in Moscow. The hotel was stormed and taken over. Their investment may still be up in the air.
It would not surprise me one bit if Fedor is under similar restraint. I assure you we only have a portion of the story.
by DJ on Jul 31, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a consolation, I would rather Fedor fight in the USA instead of Japan. Much more interesting match-ups. The people who would prefer him to fight in Japan are the kind who rank Aoki higher than BJ Penn.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ I was thinking and saying the same thing…They must have Fedor by the balls or his family. I swear I saw his brother is even like what hell now. A true fighter wants to fight the best and the best right now are in the UFC. Outside of the UFC there are maybe 3 legit fights that he has, Grim Rogers, Antonio Silva if he can give a lean Urine or fight where he can use the juice, and I would love to see a rematch with Renato Sobral. So that is 2 Strikeforce fights and where ever Bigfoot Silva is at.
How can M1 really feel that they would be a legit co-potion company for the UFC. They have nobody but Fedor. Having one Ace in your hand doesn’t give you a full house. What can M1 offer in the grand scheme of things, Fedor. Sorry Dana and Frettita’s built their model from the ground up and way to much time and effort was put into the UFC brand to have some Red Mobster ride the coat tails into mma history. Ten years down the road M1 will be but a speed bump in the MMA Super Highway that the UFC paved.
I myself am done supporting Fedor, M1, and their absurd expectations. Co-promote your career with the Red mob into obscurity because that is where he is headed. I think this definitely has to hurt his p4p status. To be p4p you have to fight best and Fedor has not fought anything in the top 10 of the HW division since fighting Cro Cop in 2005. That is 5 years almost of fighting cans, and the one person that wasn’t a can Matt linland was giving maybe 30 lbs, and should have one that fight if FEdor would have stopped holding the rope, like a hooker holding cock in Hunts Point, NY. The Last Emperor mystique is done. It is obvious Fedor and M1 are full of shit. We want this this and that. Well now that we got this this and that did we happen to mention that now we want an over here. Fedor lovers will reply with well it is not about the money and he doesn’t care about fighting in the UFC good for him I am glad he is making a stand against Dana and all that the ills of the UFC, but if that is the case how does he remain the P4P best. Because of what he accomplished 5 years ago. By that Logic the Yankees are still the best team because of all they have accomplished over half a century ago and the Chicago Bulls are still the best because of What they accomplished in the 90’s. That logic is Bullshit and till Fedor puts up and steps into the cage to fight real talent I will never purchase another PPV event with his name, M1, or any affiliate their of.
by Da Monkey on Aug 1, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol stupid barnett all these guys denying roiding after they get caught are hilarious specially being caught multiple times at least Leben atmitted it
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Jul 31, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, if Fedor had any balls and could think for himself and his credibility he would want to fight the best. I think he and M-1 are scared and ridiculous. Boycott is right!….next
by syncro on Jul 31, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Count me in.
Fuck them all. Fedor, Apy, M1, and all that assholes
by fightfan on Jul 31, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s boycott Fedor back to Sambo land.
by WereGonnaGoToTheDeath on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im watching InsideMMA and these f*cking douche bags are now calling Affliction “the t-shirt” guys. They always try to make little smart @ss coments about the UFC. So now they are gona hate on Affliction for crawling back to the UFC as a sponsor.
by JV on Jul 31, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m not surprised. that is why i stopped watching insideMMA.
by kitsunex on Jul 31, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES!
BOYCOTT!
I’m already thinking hunger strike!
…okay, maybe not, but BOYCOTT!
by Jrandolph on Jul 31, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I already signed my pledge on on earlier thread.
I will simply respond with an “agreed” or a “BOOOO”.
by Jrandolph on Jul 31, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here – Boycott Fedor!!! – Really pissed as I wished we would have the chance to see this fight. Dang – Cant wait to find the right fighter to beat down on Brock. -
by ufcrundown on Jul 31, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I hear is Fedor is the best…I don’t think so and believe he knows so. First he wouldn’t sign on to fight Randy Couture….Strike 1. Goes on to fight the generic fighters aka has beens in Affliction…Strike 2. Which brings us to the present he is basically running like a little bitch from Lesnar and who could blame him cause the 2nd loss would happen via TKO..Strike 3 Fedor. You’re Out in my mind cause even if UFC says they would co promote events he would come up with some other reason. Fight easy fights and claim to be the best if you want Fedor but a Legend in Wrestling once said To Be The MAN..You Gotta Beat The MAN!
by RodtheMMAjunkie on Jul 31, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Introvert? Got to hear is anti UFC spin on this – haha.
by JTK5 on Jul 31, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor and M-1 can suck a fat one. I don’t care what he does from here on out.
by SHORT_BUS on Jul 31, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck him. I hope Bret Rogers beats the living piss out of him…then Fedor can beg the UFC for a $50,000/fight deal
by fightfan on Jul 31, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GRim beating him into Obscurity would be such Poetic Justice for the UFC and a the fans that have wanted to see Fedor in the Cage. He probably will dodge that fight to and end up fighting some 7 foot tall Asian raver with now mma experience. Oh wait he already did that! Bring on Danny Bonaduce for the next side show freak that he can fight!
by Da Monkey on Aug 1, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part greed, part fear of getting Cro Copped is what prevented his signing. Have fun fighting clowns wearing masks over in Japan for the rest of your career.
I’ll laugh when Finklequeef and the rest of the leeches break camp when the money stops flowing and fedor is left with nothing but his cawk in his hand. I ave a feeling that gravy train will come off the tracks sooner than we expect.
by SHORT_BUS on Jul 31, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finklequeef , thats new too me .. I lol’d.
by Dayzah on Jul 31, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would Fedor wanna fight anywhere else beside the UFC? Is he afraid he’ll ruin his “legacy” if he loses? I just can’t figure it out…Who’s left besides the HVW’s the UFC has to offer??? It’s rediculous!
by allamerican on Jul 31, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Bob Sapp and Jose Canseco are available………..
by SHORT_BUS on Jul 31, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im a Fedor fan but its plain stupid to not fight in the UFC because of M1!
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 31, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is plain stupid, or actually he’s real smart cuz he knows the ufc has fighters that would kick his butt!
by Wes on Jul 31, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has given us a lot of great fights. Until Lesnar emerged he had nothing to prove, now we all want to see if this big monster can beat the master martial artist.
Fedor doesn’t owe us anything else, IMO. I his his life and these are his decisions to make, and I’m sure a ot more factors than the ones we are privy to are going into his decision-making process. Yes, his 1 ranking is in jeopardy if he turns down the UFC. But maybe Fedor has made commitments to growing his company that supercede that.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As we all know UFC 101 is called “Declaration,” in light of recent events regarding Fedor, Dana has changed the name of UFC 101 to make a more direct declaration. It’s now called:
UFC 101: From Russia With Love, Motherfucker
That makes complete NO SENSE at all. But I had to say it.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree jj. until i see what he was offered exactly, i’m not gonna hold it against him. i’m so tired of rumors and he said she said bullshit. i’m ready to turn my computer off until next thursday to follow the 101 hype. i’m so disgusted right now.
if anyone cares anymore my friend at ATT says all the fighters and managers are saying it was a 3 fight 1.5 million dollar deal, but the UFC wouldn’t drop the champion clause. no way out without losing. M-1 was asking for a one fight ppv lesnar versus fedor, co-promotion.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 31, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the only info i trust anymore. insider that has been on the money 99% of the time. the blogs are killing me, and why didn’t dana disclose how much money the offer actually was.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 31, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMA linker has the M1 press conference online. By Vladims own words the only expectation that wasn’t met was co-promotion. You can’t grow a company with side show freaks and cans. Impossible. They have no real business model other then leaching off of other promtions monetary outpouring to have Fedor fight MMA Slob and Joey bag o donuts. What has M1 done to earn the right to take half a promotions money for putting ONE marketable fighter on a card? Co- Promote what? Some asian or Eastern European nobodies on a card with fighters who have grown in leaps and bounds with a business model that is taking the world by storm! Crazy FEdor doesn’t owe anything to anyone you are correct! What does he owe the fans? Nothing nothing at all because without the fans, he would be what? A sambo teacher barely making ends meet, maybe a sambo teacher for the Russian government where he makes a decent living. You are right he owes nothing to the fans. The only the he owes, apparently is M1 and Vladim, since they have done so much to benefit him. You can not be a pro athlete or anything that involves a fan base without owing your fans. The fan base make the sport and the athletes career profitable. There is no business in any sport with out the fan base. If it was not for the fan base he woulds still be making rubles in some 2 bit promotion in Siberia!
by Da Monkey on Aug 1, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOOD. I HATE FEDOR AND M-1.
HEY M-1,
Let us know how your 10,000 PPV orders per show go.
XOXO
HEY FEDOR,
Come back when you are worth 50k a fight and have a couple losses. Smart move guy. At least you can go fight Jose Canseco and that worthless tall hong kong dude. You are super humble, all you wanted was something NO FIGHTER OR ATHLETE HAS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF CONTRACTS ASKED FOR. You are such a reasonable guy.
XOXO
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 31, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are trying to save their company.
If Fedor signs and Brock destroys him, then M-1 is no more and they all have lost their only source of income but Fedor will be OK.
OR the M-1 guys can get Fedor to keep fighting cans and make their small amount of money off his coat tails.
OF COURSE M-1 wants Fedor to not go to the UFC, if he loses their company goes bust.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 31, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
M-1 will be no more in a few years when Fedor retires anyway. They should take the money and get their pitiful brand some exposure while they have the chance. They are bonafide lunatics if they aren’t bluffing.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s something I found funny – on M-1’s webpage, they have a link to their stable of fighters:
Fighters
Fedor Emelianenko
Karl Amoussou
by Fred on Aug 1, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here. obviously Fedor doesn’t care about his legacy, he is content to fight lackluster cans in japan.
by kitsunex on Jul 31, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if ufc offers up co promotion (which will never happen), what will be the new excuse.
Fedor = Pussy.
by tallimeca on Jul 31, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
co-promotion is not what i would call it, i would call it they wanna mooch some shows off the ufc
by randy murders on Jul 31, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FEDOR IS A MORON. The fans want to see a fight (now I believe they don’t) and the only thing holding it up is that Fedor doesn’t care if they offered him boatloads of money, he HAS TO HAVE M-1 Co-promote shows.
Has anyone in the history of sports been so arrogant? I think Terrel Owens is more level headed than this moron.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 31, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Benny, you’ve got Fedor all wrong. He’s a “humble” man who only wants to be remembered as a “Good Person”. He only fights to enrich the lives of his beloved Russian countrymen. LMFAO, what a load of sh
Go fuck off to Japan Fedor and take your Mafia friends with you. You are now officially dead to me you coward!!!
by attakdog on Aug 1, 2009 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lame
Now well never kno who the best is
by phenomenal angel on Jul 31, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this truly is unbelievable how stupid and arrogant M-1 and fedor are.
I’ve NEVER seen anything like this.
Money is right. Terms are right. OH YEAH, Change your company and let us co-promote?
WHAT!?
That is what is holding this up. Fans now hate Fedor. GOOD!
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 31, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is scared, bottom line he knows is not the best in world..I reckon top 5 LHW & top 5 HW in the UFC can kick his ass right now…Fedor only do well in the past with bigger and taller guys (slow than him) easy wins..right.
by Tim-chida on Jul 31, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, Fedor knows Brock would crush his skull like a grape and Machida would dance round him making, tagging him at will. The guy’s a coward plain and simple, and this is coming from a one time Fedor megafan.
by attakdog on Aug 1, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simply for spite. Sign Aleks and promote him as the REAL Russian HW who is not afraid of UFC fighters.
by fightfan on Jul 31, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Aleks is even allowed to compete in the US then he should definitely come to the UFC. Hope the hep rumors are false.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 31, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aleks would be a good addition anyway, regardless of the Fedor acquisition.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kev I thought you sere boycotting Fedor threads…
by McArthur on Jul 31, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, a one man boycotting machine, that’ll do the trick!
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck yeah, sign Alekz, and promote him as the only Red Devil who has balls to fight the UFC heavyweights…
by miggz3000 on Aug 1, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s got the hep and Bill Douglas said he’d never be licensed in the state of Ca. Other commissions would likely say no to him too.
by SHORT_BUS on Jul 31, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
people keep saying this, but i’ve never seen one shred of evidence to prove it. where is this interview with Bill Douglas? oh yeah, in your head.
by kitsunex on Jul 31, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, why is that such a secret????
Why hasnt it leaked???
Or, IF IT IS TRUE, that an mma fighter has an INFECTOUS disease, IT SHOULD BE TOLD TO ALL for the protection of the fighters???
by fightfan on Jul 31, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree also , just too give the finger too Finkle! And why not , he could handle his own with a bunch of those guys .. He could easily beat ppl like Pat Berry , Tim Hague , Dennis Stonjic etc ..
Its also nice that he doesnt seem too speak his mind like his bro , he talked out about how Finkle is a douche.
by Dayzah on Jul 31, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enough already we got the point, FEDOR aint comming to the UFC while hes involved with those M-1 looneys. FEDOR is just a russian puppet/pussy.
by TaPouT on Jul 31, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I could care less what Fedor does anymore. He should absolutely not be considered the best, that’s for sure. Right now he is essentially ducking the entire UFC HW division.
Personally, I hope Dana withdraws the offer to Fedor, and then does anything he can to bankrupt anybody who signs him.
by Razzel on Jul 31, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lol gotta love all the Fedor hate. What has he done to deserve this? I, for one, respect him more now than ever. Why should he care what a bunch of American UFC fans turned bloggers want him to do. If he’s willing to pass up a lucrative deal for loyalty to a rinky dink promition and Russian pride. Just because things other than greed and arbitrary rankings motivate him everyone is so upset.
by frosnt1 on Jul 31, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, Fedor just gave a big “screw you” to anybody who has been a fan of his as a fighter. The opportunity to fight the best means everything to us, but zero to him. The only thing he cares about is M-1 now, and for that I say good riddance.
by Razzel on Jul 31, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor isn’t giving a big ‘screw you’ to anybody. He got into MMA for himself and for his country, not for some fickle fucktard American fans who will turn on him the second he’s not doing exactly what they want. I’m frustrated too, but get real.
He has put his career in the hands of the manager of his company, a company he has invested in and is tied to. That manager appears to be out of his damn mind, but so are the agents of half the pro athletes in North America.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor could come up to you, slap you in the face, and impregnate your wife, and you’d still come on here and defend him. :P
Seriouly though this is BS, and if you want to support his love for M-1 Global as well as the fact that he has basically been jerking fans around for years by saying the UFC just wasn’t flexible enough, more power to ya.
by Razzel on Jul 31, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what? I don’t want to be the guy defending Feds here. I’m getting kinda pissed too.
But it seems like someone has to soothe the mob, because I think people are being too harsh on him, and I also think if he comes to a deal with the UFC in the next week or two, everyone’s tune will change dramatically.
And he hasn’t beeen jerking fans around for years, because the Pride HW division was the best in it’s time, and Affliction gave him what at the time were considered huge fights as well. Hindsight is 20/20, and it’s easy to pick apart Arlovski and Sylvia now, but they were both feared HEWs in their day. They were also the rulers of the HW division which you say Fedor screwed us around by not joining when he was dominating the REAL elite HWs in Pride. Like most things in life, it’s all a matter of perspective.
And if he did come up to me and slap me in the face, I wouldn’t defend him — I’d throw my pregnant wife in his face to distract him, then I’d run like hell.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
truth jj. we don’t even know how much money he was offered, no one has yet to put an exact amount. dana saya an assload, M1 says less than he’s made in the past. Dana never said anything about the championship clause, and that has always been a sticking point. even ando silva is pissed about that now. i wish we could see the negotiations instead of listening to what they want us to hear.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 31, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, that’s a good strategy.
But I understand what you’re saying, and I think it just comes from the massive disappointment we’re all feeling. The stars were aligned man, we all wanted to see him in the UFC, Dana was willing to bend over backwards to make it happen, and Fedor and his management go and pull this shit…
It’s disappointing to say the very least.
But I’ll tell you, if they do come back next week and sign with the UFC, we will all be back here patting ourselves on the back because the primary reason will be the fan backlash they received. Fan backlash they most certainly deserved.
by Razzel on Jul 31, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, good strategy!
Anyway, I just typed a lengthy response, hit “add comment”, and nothing was posted, so forgive me if this isn’t worded so well.
My main point was that we’re all just disappointed man. The stars were aligned, they really were. We all wanted to see Fedor in the UFC, Dana was willing to bend over backwards to make it happen, and Fedor and his management go and pull this shit…
It sucks. Big time! But if they come back next week and sign with the UFC, we’ll probably all pat ourselves on the back because the significant internet backlash likely contributed to that happening. And I truly believe it is backlash well deserved.
by Razzel on Jul 31, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t see how you can say they deserve any backlash. dana isn’t even offering him any more money than strikeforce really, and he has a slave clause attached. if he wants fedor to sign a slave contract then they want to co-promote any fedor fight. give some take some. strikeforce is willing to pay as much as the ufc, willing to help promote mma throughout russia, and no slave strings attached. the ufc is much bigger than strikeforce, but strikeforce is offering the best deal. yes dana is looking out for his brand, but why is it so wrong for fedor to look out for his?
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 31, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deep sigh……I’ll keep saying…..people need to chill out. A week has passed. A measely week, and with the massive changes among the sport’s promotional entities, this thing will not play out swiftly, and frankly it shouldn’t. I’ve also said from the beginning that it’s foolish to think the UFC is pulling out all the stops to sign Fedor. There is no reason to. They have a highly marketable HW champ who will sell tons of PPV’s vs virtually any opponent. Just as importantly, the UFC is very mindful (trust me) of not creating a ripple effect of discord among the rest the top fighters under contract by giving Fedor the keys to the kingdom. Lesnar/Fedor is a dream fight for sure, but it’s one fight. Best believe the UFC is savvy enough to be thinking MUCH further ahead than simply one fight with the amount of $$$ at stake…..and with the landscape of the sport changing and evolving on nearly a daily basis. Expect the process (yeah or nay) to take several weeks or even months. Take a chill pill and most of all, spare the rational people on this blog the the idiotic drivel about an elite fighter being scared or unable to think for himself. Our sport is no different than any other major sport when it comes to these type of negotiations.
by CL on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brock is the fucking best! fedor sucks this proves it
by TheDragon on Jul 31, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fedro emelianenko, whoever he is, doesn’t even deserve to sit in the stands at a ufc event let alone fight on a card.
by jj on Jul 31, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really wanted to see him in the UFC but dont think it will ever happaen so im over it
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Jul 31, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
M-1 is actually scared that Fedor will lose in the UFC. this would be the worst for them. It would make M-1 crash. Not only that, I can really see Dana and co. really cutting Fedor after 1 fight if he stepped into the Octogon and got smashed by Borcks hamhocks. This would ruin Fedor’s mystique
by dawsafex72 on Jul 31, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I definitely think they have no intention of signing with the UFC for that very reason. They know he will not go 3-6 fights undefeated, and that sinks M-1.
Right now they are just doing there best to make it appear they are negotiating, and nobody is buying it.
by Razzel on Jul 31, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way M-1 and Fedor will get another deal /offer dolloar for dollar like they did from the UFC. If the #‘s are true at a few million per fight (show/win) there is no way that Strikeforce can afford that. It’s obvious that Donald Trump wasn’t even going to dump anymore money into Affliction. This M-1 crap makes me steam.
by dawsafex72 on Jul 31, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. Even if Fedor did lose, they’d still have boatloads of money and more exposure for their brand than ever before. Fedor isn’t going to be around forever. You’d think this is their chance to cash in and capitalize on his success. From a business perspective I just don’t understand this. They must be bluffing.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck a Fedor
Fuck a M1 Globsal
Fuck a Apy(whatever the fuck his name)
Fuck them all. I used to be a huge Fedor fan. But this bullshit is ridiculis. I believe Fedor knows that after a couple fights in the UFC…..His value will drop DRASTICALLY.
He doesnt want to fight the best fighters and is using this bullshit co-promotion angle so that he NEVER makes it to the UFC. M-1 wants to ride the coattails of a billion dollar company…when they have events in the middle of nowhere with a couple hundred people and a gate of $2000.
This M-1/UFC co-promoting is like me graduating from college and goign to Microsoft and demanding he say my company along with Microsoft if they want me. Fucking ridiculis. Fedor knows the UFC will NEVER agree and that is what he is HIDING BEHIND
by fightfan on Jul 31, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your IQ is lower than 10, of that I am sure.
by Gleb on Aug 1, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atleast we now know whos foult it is , FEDOR AND M1
Dana has tried everything
by Il Nino on Jul 31, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh well theres always a possibility that we might get to see him fight hong man choi again. Whoo hoo
by J-Rak on Jul 31, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
M-1 is stupid and Fedor doesnt care about the fans is what it comes down too. So what if Fedor is partial owner, It is his manager that is going to benefit from the deal fedor will make more money yes cause he is partial owner but is still losing out money by not signing the ufc. ….
by Texasboy on Jul 31, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont think it is all Fedor. i think this is largely FUNKY-stein, his manager. The guys motives are solely to make his own name in the sport. as for the people saying Fedor is scared? This is the guy who fought the best of the best in their prime and dominated…and he is still in his own prime. I think fedor needs new management.
by Javster on Jul 31, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He could be scared. He fought the best in the world before the super athelets came to the sport.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 31, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are all these ‘super athletes’ you keep referring to in the HW division? Lesnar? Fine, I’ll give you that. Carwin doesn’t have close to the wrestling pedigree or athleticism of Lesnar, though. He’s big and strong, but not quick like Lesnar. Cain is no super athlete. Dos Santos is sure as hell no super-athlete.
I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about, but this non-existent group of UFC ‘super-athletes’ you keep referring to sound like they belong in a bad summer superhero movie.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar is. Carwin is a super athlete, he isn’t slow and is a quality athlete. They are getting guys from TUF, Congo is developing his wrestling, there are many guys working hard with the athleticism that will cause problems for Fedor.
And even if it were only Lesnar, it is true still.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 31, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Carwin, (a division 2 wrestler BTW, and a far inferior athlete to Couture), Kongo (LOL, being ripped doesn’t make you an athlete), and the guys from TUF (OMFG) are who Fedor is scared of, hmm? Very compelling argument.
And no, if it were only Lesnar it wouldn’t be true Bennie, because you have been going on and on about this new class of “super-athlete” (it still makes me chuckle) in the HW division, and as I’ve just established, they are a figment of your imagination. They don’t exist.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s sad that Fedor has the management he does. The man isn’t afraid, he’s just managed by a greedy guy who wants a cut of the UFC pie. This guy has no interest in Fedor’s legacy. Because at the end of the day, I agree with Dana, he CANNOT be called the best pound-for-pound unless he comes to the UFC. Who’s he gonna fight to be able to consider himself the best in the world? Strikeforce only has 3 ranked HW’s: Overeem, Brett Rogers, Werdum, Arlovski (again?). Now who does the UFC has that is ranked? Let’s see… Lesnar, Mir, Couture, Noguiera, Cain, Dos Santos, Cro Cop, Kongo, Rothwell, and on and on and on.
Drop your shitty management, Fedor. Jesus Christ.
by Cool Hand Chad on Jul 31, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
M1 has Fedore as their golden goose and they want to milk it as much as they can .. plain and simple .. unfortunately Fedore trusts them blindly .. someone should wake him up.
by commoner on Jul 31, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I for one am done with Fedor. I will never buy another PPV with him as the main event UNLESS he signs with the UFC.
That dosen’t mean squat in the big picture but it’s all that I can do.
by jtc2112 on Jul 31, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AGREED! NO FEDOR PPV BOYCOTT UNLESS HE IS UFC.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 31, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just watch his fight online. It’s easier anyway. I go to mmalinker
by RyanHobbs on Jul 31, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Fedor no more.
by WereGonnaGoToTheDeath on Jul 31, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana white has worked so hard to sign fedor he should just tell him to go fuck himself. A guy who considers himself the best fighter in the world but doesnt wanna fight the best in the world doesnt deserve the respect from the fans and the ufc. Eventually Fedor is going to realize he made a mistake by not signing with the ufc, OH WAIT!! its not a mistake because if he did fight in the ufc he would he his ass beat and that would ruin his rep.
by mmafan on Jul 31, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the equivalent would be michael jordan demanding 50% of the NBA’s profit if he would come back and play. not going to happen.
by JB on Jul 31, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he loses inside the octagon (UFC), what other leverage will he have? To be considered the best you must fight the best! Period!
by RR on Jul 31, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What makes Fedor the best in the world? Cause he beat Andre? Tim did that? Cause he beat Tim? Randy bullied him. Fedor doesn’t have the size, he’s scared shit of elbows. Fedor is fast but not as fast as Lesnar. Fedor has KO power but not as hard hitting as Carwin. Fedor is a pretty small HW. I think Fedor is being overrated because he beat Tim and Andre. Before those fights, there wasn’t much noise about him. Let Fedor fight outside the UFC 2-3 more times, let him fight Rogers, Overeem, Werdum even, and see if he can still live upto the hype. As soon as he loses, M1 will probably tank. When they’re all piss poor and can’t even make a living, they’ll beg the UFC to dig them outta their graves like Affliction did. If that happens, I hope the UFC gives M1 a hard time for being stupid.
by jaime on Jul 31, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
new fan huh!? Not much hype behind him before beating those 2? Ever see him fight in pride?
by kevin on Jul 31, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stopped reading as soon as I saw “Fedor is fast but not as fast as Lesnar”.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aha fedor nut huggers r pissed about wat he said..
by guyverbob on Jul 31, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor might not be as FAST or as QUICK as Brock (depending on the definition) but he’s definitely one of the most EXPLOSIVE fighters. When he hit Tim Sylvia he was like a frickin scorpion! And his transitions are explosive too.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK fine, Lesnar is as fast as Fedor with the exception of his hands, feet, hips, subs and GnP.
His mouth is much faster.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for not posting my stuff, Walt Disney. Why don’t you censor everybody else as well.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His movement is faster, just like AA is faster, but as I said, Fedor is so damn explosive that it’s not an advantage.
by Kobajack on Jul 31, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it’s an advantage. Faster hands plus power, timing and experience = limp Lesnar. Frank fuckin’ Mir was outstriking Brock. His hands are slow as hell.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant to say Brock’s speed is not an advantage against Fedor because if Brock is considered faster (arguably), it isn’t an advantage against Fedor because Fedor is so explosive (if he isn’t faster). My point was that Fedor impresses me with his explosiveness. It’s awesome.
by Kobajack on Aug 1, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotcha. Trust me bro, Brock is fast for his size, but he is nowhere near as fast as Fedor in any facet of MMA. Fedor is faster than most middleweights. The people who are saying Lesnar is faster have got their heads firmly jammed up their asses.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 1, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part greed, part fear of getting Cro Copped is what prevented his signing. Have fun fighting clowns wearing masks over in Japan for the rest of your career.
I’ll laugh when Finklequeef and the rest of the leeches break camp when the money stops flowing and fedor is left with nothing but his cawk in his hand. I have a feeling that gravy train will come off the tracks sooner than we expect.
by SHORT_BUS on Jul 31, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me of Mike Tyson and Don King.
by SHORT_BUS on Jul 31, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here is my take on the situation. Fedor is a grown man and can make his own decisions but he just seems to be a business man first then a fighter. I was a huge loyal fan and stood up for the guy for quite awhile and I’m a fan of fighters and since it seems he doesn’t care about fighting the best and proving how good he is I just can’t bring myself to be a fan of his any longer. With that said I don’t believe he’s scared of losing nor do I believe Brock has any chance of beating him at this time but until he comes to the UFC and fights guys like Brock, Cain, Carwin etc…then he can’t be considered imo top 5 HW let alone in any P4P discussion. If I were strikeforce I wouldn’t co-promote with M-1 either and just let Fedor/M-1 go gently into the night over to dream and never be heard from again unless he comes to the UFC.
by rydinlow on Jul 31, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK M1 THIS IS HORSE SHIT!!! HE HAS TO COME AROUND!!
by d*locc on Jul 31, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We as the fans can only determine Fedor coming to the UFC now by not tuning into any of his fights and not supporting him. This really sucks that all these politics are involved with Fedor fight in the UFC.
by standupsprawl on Jul 31, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we all saw this coming. the guy is getting old anyway, and i’m not convinced he would beat brock. his management is scum. fedor should fight in the ufc not for the money, but for the satifaction of knowing that he fought the best in the world. if he were a true champion he would not be afraid..
by spitforce on Jul 31, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed. a true champ should just step up.
by dawsafex72 on Jul 31, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is chicken sH#t! He would get his clock cleaned by Lesnar anyway. UFC and mma dosen’t need him!
by Wes on Jul 31, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not only should we all agree on the Fedor boycott, but I say we get a petition going for Dana White to confiscate that pretty gold PRIDE heavyweight champ belt since it is technically UFC property
by dawsafex72 on Jul 31, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is pretty damn obnoxious for M1 to think they are entitled to half of what the UFC has built. They need to go out and build their own thriving success before they insist on that shit. Maybe they will with Strikeforce but it does seem like the UFC sucks all of the PPV oxygen out of the room. I still cant understand how Affliction only sold 3-5,000 tickets with a fight card like the one they had. The only thing the UFC needs to do to ensure other promos will never be a close 2nd is to hav more events on free TV. If they do that then it will be virtually impossible for anyone else to have a successfull PPV.
Fedor says he doesn’t care about his fihgting legacey and he is proving it. His parasites will realize thy will never see that much money fighting for Strikeforce or anywhere else and will back eventually.
by naturalist on Jul 31, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m officially a bigger Lashley and Brock fan, than a Fedor fan.
This would be perfect. Lashley, keep training! Beat Fedors ass, and join the UFC. You’ll have experience, a win over the most over rated fighter in history, and a UFC contract! We all win.
by Miketsi on Jul 31, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Lashley almost lost to Jason Guida four months ago. He’s ready for Fedor.
Are you also, by any chance, a bigger pro wrestling fan than an MMA fan? Seems like your favorite fighters have both been involoved in a tag team match at some point in their careers. Just sayin’.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 31, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lashely should compete in strikeforce.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 31, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People as stupid as Fedor should not be allowed to live.
by CD on Jul 31, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
M-1 Global ……is fucked UP. 50-50 to co-promote the UFC….screw fedor!! and his partners…he’s a fighter u wanna be the best then fight the best….dont claim u are the best when ur NOT
by canada on Jul 31, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe that’s part of the problem. Dana and Fedor do agree on one thing…they agree Fedor is NOT the best.
by naturalist on Jul 31, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know I hated brock lesnar for what he is… an unexperienced WWE wrestler who came to the UFC to fight real MMA fighters. I wanted Fedor to come in and show him what it meant to be a real fighter! Someone who had trained thier whole life to do this. Not just a college wrestler who made it because he was built “like a black man” and had the worlds gayest tatoo on his chest. However, after reading that crap M-1 and frankenstien pulled this week, I actually wanted this fight to happen so Brock Lesnar could kick his ass. I mean this guy has zero experience!!!! And he’ll fight anybody which is more than I can say for GAYDOR.
by Justin on Jul 31, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
M-1 is scared Fedor will lose in the UFC and it will blemish his legacy.
by E dogg on Jul 31, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana really is pulling out all the stops. If M1 Global are really looking for a piece of the UFC pie, they can f off. Greedy B****
by WayofTheWarrior on Jul 31, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least they did sign Vitor and are throwing him a big fight in Franklin. What weight will that fight be fought? If Vitor wins will he get a shot at Hendo/Anderson winner? UFC needs a good 185 guy. 205 is stacked as it is. Anderson will fight Griffin then Hendo then ??? hopefully GSP.
by hatteras on Jul 31, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s because Vitor and Franklin are MEN. Fedor is starting to make me wonder. Used to love the guy in PRIDE and he “was” definitely one of the best. He’s beat a laundry list of who’s whos, he just hasn’t done it lately. And don’t go preaching to me about Sylvia and AA. They are both out of the UFC for a reason. Neither of them have “it” anymore. AA needs to become a boxer. I think his jaw would benefit greatly from using 16 oz. gloves. Nothing more needs to be said about the “Maineac”.
I guess Fedor truly does not care…about anything apparently. Fighters fight. Fedor does not seem to care whether he fights or not. His attitude sucks. M-1 sucks. Finklstink sucks. There’s a lot of sucking going on with all of them right now. Gotta say, if and when Fedor ever fights again, this once big fan of his will be rooting for whoever it is standing across the ring from him.
by Gurthee on Aug 1, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck adam g too.. i had a bet with the guy that he was going to change his name to, “GSPballs- my mouth” after BJ got owned by GSP. never happened
by holyintellect on Jul 31, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope Fedor becomes the most hated man in mma!!! Screw that fucking bullshit.
This co promotion bullshit with M1 is like Tito Ortiz getting the most UNBELEIVABLE contract and INSISTING on the UFC co promoting with Punishment Athletics. Tito doesnt sign unless Punishment and UFC share all. That sound reaonable?
Actually, Punishment might be worth MORE than SHITTY ASS M1
by fightfan on Jul 31, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know I hated Brock Lesnar for what he is. An unexperienced WWE wrestler who walked in here trying to fight real mma fighters. I wanted Fedor to kick his ass and show him what it meant to be a real fighter. Someone who had spent thier whole life preparing in martial arts. Not some college wrestler who’s “built like a black man” and has the worlds gayest tatoo on his chest. However, after reading what Fedor, M-1 and Frankenstien did this week my attitude has changed! I want this fight to happen so Brock Lesnar can beat the tar out of Fedor. He has no experience but, at least he’ll fight anyone which is more than I can say for Gaydor!
by Justin on Jul 31, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok guys we need to move on. This UFC/Fedor thing is enough. I’ve read enough. If it happens it happens, thats my attitude, so unless there is some new news, whether its definitely on or off until such time I think mods, admins should stop posting any more so called “news” on Fedor/UFC deal.
by Roy on Jul 31, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There has to be something more to this. The best offer made to an MMA fighter EVER and there is not even any discussion about it, they are just saying no. Seriously how much money can M1 be pulling in on the small venues? This co promotion thing is an excuse period. Seriously they didnt even contemplate the offer.
People are saying all sorts of things now, that Fedor doesnt like to fight with elbow, that his management wants him to have this or that, but yet they are dedicated to promoting MMA world wide? I will step out on a limb here and say this. A real fighter wants to prove he is the best by fighting the best. I am not saying the man cannot fight. I am just saying you cannot call someone the best who will not defend that opinion.
by ASR on Jul 31, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Get over it people. Fedor will only be in the UFC on his own terms and that means co-promotion. Something the UFC will never do. He got a HUGE offer and turned it down. Time to move on.
by MK on Jul 31, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Never again will I watch a Fedor fight. I am done paying for a guy and giving him my hard earned money when he won’t fight the best in the world and give the fans the fights they deserve cause some Russian “MMA NAZI” can’t get his promotion off the ground.
by zenjitsu on Jul 31, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, since the best heavyweights in the world were in Affliction, seems a bit off to say he don´t fight the best. It´s as stupid as Danna saying that he is not the best pound per pound because he don´t want to sing UFC… just nonsense.
Said that, refusing this last offer from the UFC is plain stupid. The copromotion thing is just asking for the heavens. He is the best pound per pound fighter on the world, but even that is not worth that much. It´s a pity, I wanted to see Fedor crush the face of cockchest. For god´s sake, I want to see ANYONE crushing the face of cockchest.
by Tarao on Jul 31, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Best heavyweights in the world were in Affliction? @ UFC rejects, a steroid user, and one good fighter (fedor) – hasn’t proven shit.
by JTK5 on Jul 31, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if these guys were not the best then who is? A professional wrestler with 5-1 record, Carwin and Velasquez who have one quality (that’s debatable, btw) win each, 40+ year old Couture, or Frank Mir who gets beaten by cans? Fedor’s got nothing to prove to you, he beat the best and he beat everybody who stepped up to challenge him, if UFC is so sure in Brock, why don’t they just co-promote this one fight and get this over with?
by Gleb on Aug 1, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar actually has a 4-1 record. And his first opponent was tapping before he entered the ring. And Herring and Mir are practically cans. And Couture is an 87 year-old LHW.
And let’s not let silly things like facts get in the way. Arlovski is a UFC reject, even though the UFC tried to keep him but was outbid. If A-Rod’s contract was up this season and the Yankees offered him 200 million but the Red Sox offered him 250 million and he went to Boston, he would be a Yankees reject. That makes perfect sense.
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 1, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jj, u know what bothers me most, is all these guys are ready to crucify fedor and m1 for not accepting a contract that they don’t even know the specifics of. they hear dana say assloads of money and just assume its a goldmine. he never said how much. he also never said he was willing to drop the champion clause, one of fedors biggest complaints years ago. he has been with m1 for years and they have never focked him over to anyones knowledge. how many ufc fighters has dana focked over? dana doesn’t look out for the fighters best interest, he looks out for dana’s best interests. if he cared about the fighters, he’d let ando silva box rjj and pocket a few mill. the ufc is king of all ppv, including boxing, wwe, or any other sport, and their employees make alot less than boxers and fake-ass wrestlers.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Aug 1, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, because we can always expect dana to tell the truth………..
cough crocop cough
by danasmassiveego on Jul 31, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Fedor. I admire him as a fighter but damn!!!! He needs to fight the best in the world.
by belfort_fan on Jul 31, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He does, when he fought Nog, Nog was considered #1 HW in the world, when they did the rematch Nog was #2, Herring was top 5 when he thought him, Randlemann was top 10, Cro Cop was #2 when they fought, Sylvia was top 5, Arlovski was #2, and Barnett is ranked #2. He is fighting the best, and nobody in the UFC has a better track sheet than him, at least in the weight class.
by Gleb on Aug 1, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is afriad of real competition and you cant deny that now. Who is there really to fight outside the UFC? Werdum and Overreem, thats it.
The UFC doesnt need Fedor.
by Carnage on Jul 31, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck M1Global, their shitty M1 Challenge events, and fuck Fedor. I was the biggest Fedor mark. But now I don’t want to hear shit about this dude fighting. He should make some cash fighting Bob Sapp or Minowa or dumbass fight like that then retire. That way he can concentrate on his stupid ass promotion and fade off into obscurity…
by miggz3000 on Aug 1, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope the UFC goes after all the other decent heavyweights out there. I think Antonio Silva and Bobby Lashley can draw some interest. I’m sure Strikeforce is eyeing both of these guy’s.
by luke on Aug 1, 2009 1:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Reasoning is, aside from all of these reasons. Dana White is a monotheistic hot head from the point of view from a high character humble man with principles and integrity. That cannot really be bought, in the m-1 press conference they said if this offer was in place a couple years ago, he would be in the UFC. But He said dana didn’t RESPECT him back then and basically wanted to give him hardly any pay, no traveling tournament rights as far as Sambo goes. He wants to pay all of his fighters like its mexico and pocket all the cash and then do with them what he pleases then move on. There is no mutual respect or understanding. Look up how much dana makes about 30-70 mill an event on top of his salary and merchandise commission. Look at what the good fighters make. I think Machida makes 100k + 100k for a finish? And that is one of the highest I have seen. Monotheistic tyranical insanity if dana wants to toss around ignorant trash terms.
Apologize to fedor, leave the money, and allow co promotion for only fedors fights which are what 3-5 a year? maybe less doubt more. Both Profit, both stand, both put food on the table. He said he cares about what the fans want but he cares about what the fans will spend money on and not their true interests.
by Kris on Aug 1, 2009 2:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Problem is kris the UFC would make more without Fedor if it wa co-promote. Yes The Fedor fight against Brock might beat 100 but not by double and if he loses the hype about him will drop and the next UFC events he is in they would be back near there normal PPV views and the UFC would lose money having M1 split the profits. UFC will do fine without Fedor and still be the #1 MMa event period.
by Beaver on Aug 1, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida is far from the highest paid though. Chuck Liddell has received $500,000 before.
by Kobajack on Aug 1, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: of how you feel about Dana’s paying ways, it is the reason why the UFC has been around for so long and successful for so long. Every mma company that has thrown money around has suffered and folded. So they must be doing something right. Also if he is so horrible and money is so much elsewhere why do the fighters continualy resign contracts. Even Tito came back who was one of the biggest bitchers of the money. Affliction and Elite XC was paying fighters out the ass and many fighters resigned their contracts with the UFC. So Dana and co. are obviously doing something right…
by Da Monkey on Aug 1, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget him already hes made himself clear, its excuse after excuse with this russian twat!!!
Dana and the fertitas have bowed to this guy for the last time, and when all is said and done he can no longer be mentioned as pfp the best because he hasnt been willing to take the fights that would prove this, all other guys do!!
Fedor the brave lol PUSSY!!!!
by mo on Aug 1, 2009 2:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From M-1’s website, here is their stable of fighters -
Fighters
Fedor Emelianenko
Karl Amoussou
They don’t bring much to the table for a partnership. Now that WAMMA is extinct, I think WAMMAM rankings should be the new standard. (World Association of MMA Maniacs) Sounds like it’s time to vote!
by Fred on Aug 1, 2009 2:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL. It truly is only TWO! That’s hilarious. And they want to cross-promote with the UFC taking up half the card? Hahaha.
by Kobajack on Aug 1, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that WAMMA is extinct, I think WAMMAM rankings should be the new standard. (World Association of MMA Maniacs) Sounds like it’s time to vote!
by Fred on Aug 1, 2009 2:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fedor is already under contract and has nothing to do with the ufc contract offered.
i dont see any fights in the ufc that even interest me against fedor. to say lesnar is a challenge to fedor with 4 or 5 fights is just laughable much like the depleted ufc heavyweight roster.
fedor is considered the best by most top 10 mma fighters including randy,bj penn, anderson and gsp so i think he’ll do fine in the future.
im glad fedor will not be in the ufc cause they dont deserve him for the way they talk about him.
he would have 2 fights against randy and lesnar and thats it, theres nobody else even close.
by mike m on Aug 1, 2009 4:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Stock of Heavyweights elsewhere is what? Teeming with MMA Brilliance? Nobody right now has a better stock of HW then the UFC. BRock and Randy, then you actually have up and comers with Dos Santos, Carwin, and Cain VElasquez. Gonzaga is exciting when he is on. By my count that is much more exciting and stocked then ummm Grim Rodgers (Who I wold love to see fight Fedor-and he may end up a UFC fighter at some point), Bobby Lashley (who feels at this point in time he doesn’t want to hurt his progress(Protecting his undefeated streak against nobodies) then there is Anotnio Big Foot Silva and Barnett. Maybe Fedor can fight Barnett and Silva in Japan where they don’t give a shit about the juice. So as far as Fedor doing fine in the future, I don’t see how. His ratings will go plummet now that he will have nothing but circus clowns and celebrity rejects to fight! Maybe he can go to Australia and fight a Kangaroo or wrestle a bear in Siberia somewhere. If you really think M1 is going to succeed with only having Fedor and Karl Amoussou you are sadly mistaken. M1 is a sinking ship in a deep river!
by Da Monkey on Aug 2, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Vadick Fecal-stain. He needs to immolate himself then jump off a plank into a Brazilian river fully of bloodthirsty hungry pirhanas, untill all that is left is his twisted, bitter, infected, stone-cold, black, dying heart. Then you take the heart out of the water, and dowse it with corrosive acid and watch the heart sizzle, spit and splutter as it is devoured into nothing. Then spit on his tombstone.
DIE Vadick Fecalstain!!!!!
by rhys on Aug 1, 2009 6:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It all fell apart on co-promotion. It’s not about money. V-Fink does it for the good of the sport.
And Fedor owns 20% of M-1?
I own 20% of myself too!
But I didn’t sell the other 80%…
by theGipper on Aug 1, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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