Nyet! 'Iron' Vadim Finkelchtein steadfast in goals of Fedor, M-1 Global (Video)
by Jesse Holland on Jul 30, 2009 2:45 PM EDT
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There you have it intro,
“can a deal be met without co-promoting?”
“Nyet!”
I don’t know why, it affects no one unless they want 50% of ppv’s when Fedor fights which would be ridiculous!
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Alright guys, I’ve read every comment in the Fedor thread! I 100% guarantee you that fedor isn’t scared of anyone! You guys making those comments are just dumb! The M-1 people have confirmed the offer, they said and I quote "30 million was with projected ppv sales." This leads me to believe that if the ppv sales were higher than projected Fedor could make more money! Introvert does make some valid points, but they get lost in his hatred of Dana White and the UFC! Fedor wants co-promotion, sambo etc. The UFC bends on all except co-promotion, but offers M-1 a piece of the ppv revenue on top of Fedor’s pay as well as allowing Fedor to promote M-1 as much as he likes. Now these are just the facts, here are my opinions:
Finklestein doesn’t want Fedor in the UFC! The UFC have bended or broke on every demand! He can promote his company and M-1 will get paid on top of Fedor’s salary. I’m in no way a Brock Lesner fan, but he seems to make his own decisions and speaks for himself! Without the UFC marketing power, no one knows who Fedor is! If he takes less money for co-promotion with strikeforce, does that make sense? No one knows who M-1 is, and no one will. They aren’t looking for co-promotion as much as their looking for financial backers so they can put on shows in other countries, that no one will ever see! I’ve weighed this in my head a lot, and I blame Fedor! He isn’t thinking for himself or doesn’t want to cross these russian mobsters, either way, it’s on him! If asked directly, Fedor could never honestly say that fighting Grim or Werdum for less money makes more sense than fighting Brock or on a lesser scale Couture!
by kevin on Jul 30, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
Good post kev, you’ve made a lot of sense on this subject today.
by attakdog on Jul 30, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Your post is a good one Kev, and I blame Fedor too. I’m so sick of this whole thing. IMO he’s not fighting top competition and hasn’t for quite a while. I’m going to continue to lose respect for him the longer this stuff goes on. It’s not like they’re offering him a bad deal. Get over here and start fighting guys like Lesnar, Couture, Carwin, Velasquez, etc, and if he’s still winning, then there will be no doubt. Most champions love the idea of fighting the toughest guys in the world, to prove they are the best (GSP, Silva, BJ), Fedor needs to jump on that bus already!
by LJ on Jul 30, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
slow your rolls fellas. where are these figures coming from? are they any more than just rumor? let’s get the full story before lighting the torches and grabbin our pitchforks.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 30, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, where u been obama, confirmed by fedor’s people already
by kevin on Jul 30, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i already had my torch lit . . . so we no burn him to the ground now or what . . .
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jul 30, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i find it odd that m1 is only reporting a 3 fight offer.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 30, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
until i hear it from the ufc and m1, the same story, i don’t believe any of it. my internet is jacked up and i can’t watch the flick.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 30, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i haven’t even heard the ufc confirm it, wtf?
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 30, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright kevin I know that this is going to start a war with you but atleast I won the first battle. Below is the link that says how fedor was NOT offered the 30 mil. Your move chief.
http://sherdog.com/news/news/m-1-fedor-not-offered-30-million-18816
by kevin's nemesis on Jul 30, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
OK……Wacky conspiracy theory alert….but here goes.
There are rumors Affliction was not selling tickets for the event, and we know they were in serious trouble regardless. The fact that they folded up so quickly after the Barnett news says a lot. In light of this, I find the timing of Barnett’s suspension intriguing. Barnett of ALL people should be aware of POV testing and offered zero for explanation. Since…we’ve heard very little from Barnett, and unless I’m missing something, not a whole lot from the other fighters headlining the ticket. Also factor in Dana White’s comments about signing Belfort weeks before the Affliction event was to happen. I’m wondering if the Affliction money men were DESPERATE for a way out of the show, to the point of paying for internal sabotage, or a failed drug test? I’m also wondering if the UFC was aware of the desperation, and if Dana’s comments regarding Belfort, and the astonishing quickness of negotiating Affliction out of promoting fights is indication they were aware of Affliction’s situation, and if negotiations were happening prior to Barnett’s failed test? In my opinion, the timing coincedences here cannot be ignored. Something to think about?
by CL on Jul 30, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, Kevin’s nemesis. I know that the reports weren’t 100% true. go to the monson thread for my rebuttal, did you even read what M-1 wants?
by kevin on Jul 30, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Let this be a lesson, kids. Don’t jump to conclusions and take unsubstantiated internet reports as gospel truth. Patience is a virtue.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, where you been kevin? j/k, but wait till you hear it from a reliable source.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 30, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
CL, I don’t think Barnett needs internal sabotage to fail a drug test. This is at LEAST his third positive, There is precedent here. I also don’t see how you could bribe the commision for a failed test. There is a protocol followed to get the samples to eliminate just this sort of thing from happening.
Within the realm of possibility of course, but highly improbable IMO. I think their show would have done about as well or better than the last one, and they knew that. They were going to fold the tent after anyway, and they were concerned that they could be sued because they had marketed a main event for months and were changing it at the last minute. I don’t think a promotion had done that before.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is about time to just give up on ever watching Fedor fight in the UFC. I just dont think its gonna happen!
by tylerS on Jul 30, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This site has been pwned by untrue pro-UFC rumors yet again. Quit backtracking Kevin, you reported it as fact and backed it 100% and it’s bullshit.
Not saying you reported it, but it was obvious to me right off the bat that it was false. I think there is still a decent chance they work out a deal. Fedor and M-1 would NEVER turn down the supposed deal offered, despite their assertions of demanding full co-promotion status – and the UFC would never offer it. It sets a dangerously high salary precedent for the rest of the roster.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. By internal sabotage, I meant paying Barnett rather than the commission. He has a track record of juicing anyway, and won’t be part of the UFC anytime soon. I agree it’s a longshot, but I find the sheer speed of the negotiations with the UFC and the timing of Dana’s name dropping of Belfort all intriguing. Thanks JJ.
by CL on Jul 30, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I reiterate…
Curtain opens on conference table with three men sitting around it
Dana: So, do you fucking faggots want to fight in the fucking UFC or what? We have the best fighters of all times. Fuckers.
Fedor: Well Mr. White, I think we need to discuss-
Dana: Listen you fat fucking Russian gangster faggot. Either sign the fucking deal or I go public and tell everyone you turned down 5 mil a fight. Is that what you want, you fucking sambo-loving mafia-owned pussy?
Fedor: Mr. white, I hardly feel that this is appropriate. Perhaps we need to-
Dana: That’s it. I fucking knew you goddamned faggots would try to screw me. Well forget it fat-ass. The deal’s off the table.
Fedor: Mr. White, with all due respect, you have only offered me 25 thousand dollars a fight and this pre-worn UFC track suit. I don’t under-
Dana: You got some nerve, you retarded faggot motherfucker. The deal’s off. Give me back my track suit.
Fedor: YOUR track suit? But I thought you said-
Door slams
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know JJ,?I kind of agreed with CL.They were a report(bogus or not)that says that Barnett was on the UFC payroll before the folding.Barnett said it wasn’t a random testing.The folding in 2 days.The big announcement of Dana a couple weeks ago.Acquisition of Belfort before been sign.Now these Fedor’s negociations.These things are all murky and it seems like something fishy going on!
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm. I see what you’re saying. I think Barnett will be damaged by this more than he even realizes. He pissed off a LOT of people. Even in Japan (the Land of the Rising Needle) they are grumbling about this guy. I think it would take a hell of a lot of cash to make him do that.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be so fast to say this bro.Barnett is in Japan right now to wrestle.And he said that he was doing it b/c they were a lots of his Japaneses fans waiting to see him in action.
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
In defense of some of the people who claimed Fedor was scared, I think what they meant was that team Fedor is afraid of his reputation being tarnished and having the value of their asset diminish. I don’t think they meant Fedor is scared of getting beat up. I don’t agree with this notion in either case. I think it’s all about Fink/growing M-1.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 30, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I was really hoping we would see Fedor in the Octagon. Oh well. He can now go have fun fighting 7 foot tall freakshows wearing Anime masks in japan.
I’ve said it before, the UFC doesnt need Fedor and Fedor doesnt need the UFC.
by RiverHorror on Jul 30, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Punch is right. I made a staement on some other Fedor-related thread that fedor and his management group are afraid of a possible loss. One loss and his mystique as the unbeatable MMA demigod is shattered, and with it millions of dollars in appearance money.
by PW on Jul 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The ‘Fedor being scared’ argument makes no sense, since it’s apparently the management team pulling all the strings anyway.
Anyone who has followed Fedor’s career and isn’t new to MMA or non-UFC MMA knows Fedor is not fucking scared. This shit is pretty frustrating though, and if this offer is real, it seems that Fedor’s camp is being unreasonable in their demands. I am getting close to taking Dana’s side on this, which is a rarity for me, but I have to call a spade a spade. I need to hear from both parties what is actually going on in detail before I jump to any hasty conclusions, however.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
These guys are nuts. They get offered a guaranteed $6 million a fight and unprecidented concession by the UFC and turn it down. Good luck getting that kind of money from Strikeforce or anyone else. If I were Zuffa, I’d tell them to pound sand and give them a call when they get off the bad dope.
What I’m sure these knuckleheads mean by "co-promote" is having the UFC do all the work and have all the expenses come out of their (Zuffa’s) end, while sitting back and collecting a percentage of the gross, not the net.
Weather you like them or not, and aside from not having Fedor, the UFC pretty much controls the world of MMA.
If M-1 is such a great brand, why can’t M-1 throw a big monthly PPV themselves, why do they need to co-promote, and why aren’t the worlds best flocking to them?
One fighter doesn’t make a brand. Just ask Affliction and Elite XC. Get a clue, Vadim: there is no M-1, there is just Fedor. There is no real brand to promote there, just one fighter.
by el mexicutioner, formerly the mexicutioner on Jul 30, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree and you and I almost never do that. Don’t let it happen again Mex.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 30, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats what I’m saying. Jesus H.
by el mexicutioner, formerly the mexicutioner on Jul 30, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
a good post if it was based on facts. funny rumors though. if you all keep listening to bullshit you will go nuts.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 30, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yaaawnnnn….
by el mexicutioner, formerly the mexicutioner on Jul 30, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Thompson’s out of the Melendez fight. Replaced by Ishida.
So another title fight on the Stikeforce card has now been cancelled or altered. Riggs/Diaz, Overeem/Werdum, now this. I think I’m missing one too. Craziness. At least the Mousasi/Babalu fight is going down. I like Mousasi a lot, but I think Babalu is a tad overrated. Also, Mousasi saying he waants to box professionally on Showtime. Not so sure that’s a good plan, we’ve seen how that usually works out for MMA guys – but he sure looked good in that kickboxing bout a while back.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think mouss can hold his own in boxing JJ.A chance for Strikeforce,to have been able to salvage the fight. b/c that card is starting to get less interesting than the original one.
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
WAY less interesting. Yeah, just remember boxing is different. The guys who are high-level have been training nothing but hands most of their lives. He could beat some cans but he will get owned once he moves up a notch or two.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know.I assume that he knows that too.
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of guys don’t realize their own limitations, especially when they’re on a 12-fight winning streak.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you know if he as an amateur record(boxing)?I remember,seeing him in Pride and then I saw him back at Dream.That’s when I started to following him.I have no recollection what so ever,with him be in K-1 or boxing before.
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He had a K-1 fight against Musashi(?) I think, a renowned kickboxer and he KO’d him. So yes, I think.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yes he is undefeated as an amateur boxer or something like that i remember them talking about that when he first came to Pride, Musashi s*cks btw, anybody beats that dude…
by RoBerto on Jul 30, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks RoB. Hey, you ever going to give credit where it’s due for your new screen name?
:-)
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah RoB…you got to give credit to JJ.RoBertO’s coming from him.
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Mc
by el mexicutioner, formerly the mexicutioner on Jul 30, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I am having a hard time believing that this ridiculously lucrative offer was presented to Fedor. There has been so much unreliable press around this signing and I just don’t get it.
They could never hope to match that offer elsewhere, and M-1 would still get to pimp their company on Fedor’s clothes and a banner in the ring, which is a fuck of a lot more North american exposure than they’re getting now. Strikeforce could never match this deal and neither could Dream or anyone else. This makes no sense for Fedor OR M-1, and I am calling bullshit, just like the bogus LA Times report.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If this deal IS legit and they turned it down, I am forced to arrive at the conclusion that Fedor or his team never had any intention of signing there, and are simply going through the motions to drive up other offers or appease critics. It still baffles me though. I find it hard to believe that the Sambo permission, 5 million a fight, and M-1 getting to hawk their shit on banners and clothes was turned down. IT MAKES NO SENSE.
If they did turn it down, I hope Dana doesn’t come out and fly off the handle tomorrow with an obscenity-laced tirade about Fedor and his team, thereby burning all bridges between them. There’s alwayts a chance these dipshits are shopping around and will return to the table.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i call bullshit also. dana isn’t gonna offer that much money to anyone. he knows if fedor gets beat, everyone else is going to ask for a bigger piece of the pie. if they give him that much, every champ will be asking for at least 3 mil.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 30, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Curtain opens on conference table with three men sitting around it
Dana: So, do you fucking faggots want to fight in the fucking UFC or what? We have the best fighters of all times. Fuckers.
Fedor: Well Mr. White, I think we need to discuss-
Dana: Listen you fat fucking Russian gangster faggot. Either sign the fucking deal or I go public and tell everyone you turned down 5 mil a fight. Is that what you want, you fucking sambo-loving mafia-owned pussy?
Fedor: Mr white, I hardly feel that this is appropriate. Perhaps we need to-
Dana: That’s it. I fucking knew you goddamned faggots would try to screw me. Well forget it fat-ass. the deal’s off the table.
Fedor: Mr. White, with all due respect, you have only offered me 25 thousand dollars a fight and this pre-worn UFC track suit. I don’t under-
Dana: You got some nerve, you retarded faggot motherfucker. The deal’s off. Give me back my track suit.
Fedor: Your track suit? But I thought you said-
Door slams.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you read the part above where it said Fedor confirmed the numbers?
by PW on Jul 30, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean kevins post? he posted it must be true. where is it at? i want to see fedor confirm it with my own eyes. sorry i don’t believe everything posted on this site, it has been pretty unreliable lately.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 30, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish Bloody Elbow would run a story about alien warships attacking trailer parks across America. Then some of you gullible morons might hide in a cellar or something for a day, sparing the rest of us the brain trauma induced by reading your racist lynch-mob anti-Fedor hate speeches.
Put down your pitchforks and let’s wait and find out what’s actually happening folks. Sweet Christ.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said Mexi. This guy is a looser. Fedor must be under some kind of Russian Mob magic spell.
fuck YOU M-1
by Lestat on Jul 30, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he probably doesn’t like loosing. He might end up loosing fans too.
LOOser.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s like watching Lee Steinberg telling ESPN his client Kobe Bryant is going to play in France next year because the competition is better… complete and utter horseshit. Get this mob mouthpiece the hell out of here. Kevin is so right; they’re going to maintain that level of mystique one way or another. It’s easy to fear no man when you fight only cans.
by Sir Chokemout on Jul 30, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys, Fedor needs an intervention!
Outside of bringing Fedor, WHAT, anyone please tell me WHAT, M1 has to offer the UFC. This is assinine. He says "it’s not like we are coming with nothing to offer. Explain to the rest of us idiots, how co promoting will benefit the UFC in anyway?
I think I agree with Kev, Fedor may not be afraid of any one fighter, but if he loses right out of the gate, M1 is finished, and that smells more like Vadim’s fear of losing his little red empire.
I will not hold this one over Dana at all. Furthermore, I just don’t want to care anymore. Dana, Go get every available HW and force M1 to put on Fedor vs Canseco, or Fedor vs Bonaducci, I’ll watch it on channelsurfing.net…maybe.
by Jrandolph on Jul 30, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t said anything about this Fedor stuff yet. Most of you know that I love Fedor as a fighter and think he’s the best in the world. No matter what happens I will still think that. However if he doesn’t sign with the UFC I will be very disappointed. I highly doubt that the UFC offered him the contract that is being reported, but I am sure it’s the best contract he will be offered. I know that he is a partial owner of M-1, and I understand protecting your business, but it seems that the best thing for the business would be going to the UFC. Obviously the UFC isn’t going to co-promote, and if they would let him where as much M-1 crap as he wanted that would still be better than co-promoting with the next organization. Not to sound like a moron, but I’m really starting to think that there is more than meets the eye. Either Fedor is stubborn as a mule and extremely prideful, or the M-1 bosses really do have something on him. I don’t know but this all seems really fishy to me. If it comes out that this reported contract really was offered to Fedor and he doesn’t sign with the UFC, it will make me lose respect for him.
by Diceman on Jul 30, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I laughed when he said “we always find suitable guys for fedor” hahahahhaha yeah hong man choi lindland AA timmy goodrich hahahah you are so scared you fags! His management does not want fedor to go to the ufc they know he will lose, guess who doesn’t make as much money when he gets crushed in 3 or 4 ufc fights and is no longer the “best HW” in the world??? that’s right fedor and his MANAGEMENT!!!! they want him to keep being this big time draw , the best p4p HW in the world and aslong as he fights has beens and freakshows he will continure to win and keep his ranking and his worth!! he goes to the ufc and loses to brock, randy, carwin, and mir guess what he is not worth nearly as much to anyone !!!!! so ofcourse they will find whatever reason they can to not sign with ufc
by TheDragon on Jul 30, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, to be 12 again.
You know Dragqueen, no matter how hard you try – you’ll never be half the man your mother is.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
What a fucking Russian mafia piece of shit!!!!
“UFC…”
by introvert on Jul 30, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
I second that Introvert
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Jul 30, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i would chant canada but we only have fights in quebec and personaly i dont consider that canadian, its french canadian
by JG on Jul 30, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Quebec’s as Canadian as I am and so is Introvert which leads me to believe that either Intro’s hopped up on goof balls or thats not him…he’s not from the US and we all know how he feels about the UFC huggers…something fishy here!!
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL @ not considering Quebec Canadian. Methinks a history lesson is in order.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Intro’s Canadian? and here I’ve been telling everyone how nice and intelligent we all are up here ;)He’s gone and made a liar out of me.
by MM_Eh on Jul 30, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m from Ontario and have lived in BC, Alberta and Quebec…I speak a little french and have always made time to visit certain parts of Quebec…Canadians or Americans who say this and that about Quebec have obviously never been there cause its one of the most diverse, beautiful, and entertaining provinces in our country…don’t judge a province or state by what its politicians do or don’t do…imagine what it would be like if the world judged the US based on G. W.
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
when the hell is vancouver gonna pull their heads out of their asses and have mma out on the west coast?? what’s that..there was 10 million dollars generated for montreal when the fights were there..i just want to watch a big show live that is not a million miles away..
and i still think eastern canadians are dif than western canadians..i’m just sayin!!
by sarah on Jul 30, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, or imagine if the rest of the world judged Canada based on the average intelligence of an Albertan!
shudders
Seriously, I worked in Alberta for a year in my early 20s. It’s not THAT bad, I guess. But compared to BC it’s pretty weak.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
where did you live in bc mcarthur?
i was taught russian in school instead of french..
by sarah on Jul 30, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The UFC will come here within a year or two at the most, Sarah. Hold tight. :-)
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
holding..damn it though..where can you sign petitions or something..that is a long time damn it!!
by sarah on Jul 30, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Grew up in Ontario, spend my early twenties in Banff Ab., and a year in Tofino BC…dated a girl for 5 years from Quebec (Mt Tremblant) and spent X-Mas, and 1999 there. Spent 2000-2001 SINGLE in Australia and have been back in KW Ontario married with kid ever since
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol Mac, the world does judge the US by what G.W. did; I got into it on youtube with some brit talkin about how all “we” do is attack other countries and kill people. The guy was blasting me like it was directly my decision and my fault we had troops in Iraq. Awesomeness :D
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t…I don’t even judge Texans on what he did.
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Sarah, you were taught Russian in school? WTF?
Let’s get a conference call with Fedor happening immediately!
“Um, Mr. Emilianenko, there appears to be a ‘Sarah’ on line three … and apparently there is a gentleman by the name of ‘JJ’ also on the line, who is shrieking ‘pull M-1’s penis from your ass and think about this for a minute’. Should I patch you through?”
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m planning to run straight from Fort Worth to the White House in 2012 baby! And when I do watch out, because there is no shortage of asses to kick. And Nancy Pelosi is at the front of that line.
by PW on Jul 30, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
“they claim to be from some “Maniac” firm and say that they know John"
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of you should just STFU about your crap of “eastern canadians are dif than western canadians” and Quebec not been considered part of Canada!F’ing dumb assessments again…
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Just keep staying in your magnificent province Sarah and STFU.It’s not the first time that I see you bashing at us Québecois.
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
WAR Alpha!!!
Now you done it! You done pisssed him off!
:-)
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL,I was,a bit…now after baking something I care less.But I still think it’s stupid to say that…i’m just sayin!! :cool:
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha. Weed always makes me look back at my posts and take my foot off the gas a bit too. Sometimes I’m like, “did I just post that?” LOL.
I’m taking a two week break, at least, from the herb, and I’m cranky. I find that after a few weeks of steady smoking I need a good break or I get foggy and stuff. I have absolutrely nothing to do at work and I am slowly but surely losing my mind.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
aww sorry alpha this is twice now i have bashed..sorry man..i guess i am bashing the government and not “the people”..but yeah..i’ll remember to hold my tongue about the eastern sh*t and seperating..but i still think the tattoo canada across your ass and everytime you bend over quebec separates joke is still funny!! ;)
by sarah on Jul 30, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
HA,ha…no sweat Sarah.The funny thing about the separatist is that,they are in minority and those thoughts was from the past.Nobody want this now to happen,the proof is…at the last referendum in Qc…it was reject by a big marge,and “le Partie Quebecois” is losing support on his own ground,The “Liberals” are on power right now.That mentality was from the boomers and their parents.This will never comeback again..guaranteed.Sorry to get politic right now but that got to be clarified.To be honest…yes the joke was funny,but not your sayin about GSP that you are proud of him b/c he’s Canadian but the frenchy part sucks and the others (quotes).Like Mac says C’mon,eh!
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ,i’m ALWAYS like that too,lol.Just like with my trolling with Iguana yesterday(and the other day).I was looking at it last night (after a good one),and I couldn’t even believe it,that I did that.And bro…even if you thinking to take a break in the relationship with Mary Jane…you know you’ll craw back to her in no time.Just use moderation brotha.
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m not trying to be mean..just playing..
and yeah JJ i learned russian in school cuz my dad moved us to a doukabour community..was dif for sure.
by sarah on Jul 30, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry girl,it’s all good!I got a post about this in moderation.
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Why? I’m right.
I bet 90% of the people here chant at every UFC event.
by introvert on Jul 30, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
now I get it…Intro using sarcasim? Never would’ve thunk it
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with intro on that comment. see, i can be nice, and like i said, i agree with alot of your comments that are non-ufc related. although, hating M-1 does take you one step closer to liking the UFC…uh oh!
by Andrew on Jul 30, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
When do you want your $10? I dont want you to go without heat or food. PayPal?
by el mexicutioner, formerly the mexicutioner on Jul 30, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Steadfast in his own personal goals of filling his own wallet. What a friggin idiot, maybe he’ll run into a telephone pole and do us all a favor.
by kibbled_bits on Jul 30, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
I’m going to back off my previous posts a bit:
If Dana really believes Brock will win, maybe he just co-promotes for one fight, Fedor takes a loss, and Dana doesn’t agree to any further co-promoting. It would certainly set the stage for saying, “guess you should have taken the $30M when you had the chance.”
Of course, if Fedor wins, that’s a problem.
Ultimately, I don’t think Dana rolls the dice. I think he sets things up so that he wins no matter what. So it I don’t think it’s going to happen.
However, if I were Dana, I would go after every potential opponent that Fedor has outside the UFC. I’d sign them so that Fedor couldn’t claim to be fighting top competition.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
you dont happen to read on sherdog do you? but that is a good idea trying to bring in as many hw opponents as possible
by Jared on Jul 30, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No, this is the only site I read. I let John G and Kevin do all the heavy lifting and bring me the latest from everywhere else.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 30, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana Hates to lose and i can Seem him doing that. I would love it if UFC bought Every other Heavy wieght out there. It would have to be less the 30 million for them.
by JJKID on Jul 30, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesse…I’d love to see some photoshop involving Eddie Sanchez and Beetlejuice from the Stern show…I swear their twins
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes sense. Signing Fedor is a big deal, but the UFC certainly does not need him to flourish. Like him or not Lesnar, is money in the bank. The UFC certainly has the funds and exposure to make lucrative offers to any HW worth seeing.
I can’t add much that hasn’t already been covered, other than to say this is just the beginning. Expect the process with Fedor to take awhile to play out, and expect more info than what we have at present. Gut feeling, we won’t see Fedor in the UFC anytime soon.
by CL on Jul 30, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Fedor signs , I hope Dana accept it , But I dont think so…
by Il Nino on Jul 30, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions
Pfft why does everyone want fedor so bad in the UFC? we need to see a legit real powerhouse heavyweight division like the maine-iac sylvia or maybe chuck can swing up in weight idk? what do you guys think? i really think sylvia just didn’t prepare for that fight as he was doing this reality t.v stuff. I still say tim 8 months with BJJ training he could ocme into the fight with legit BJJ black belt skills and probably pull off a go-go on fedor with the fighting style fedor has. If not a go-go then for sure the kimora
by TimSylvia4Lyf on Jul 30, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
I’m pretty sure fedor isn’t gonna get signed because hes scared of tim syliva, he knows that rear naked was a fluke
by TimSylvia4Lyf on Jul 30, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
you are hilarious so was the hes latest knockout hu?
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Jul 30, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks to this puppetmaster we wont see FEDOR in the UFC. Life goes on
by TaPouT on Jul 30, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
Sweet i’m glad they posted another Fedor thread cause i’m definitely not sick of hearing about it.
by ~Savage~ on Jul 30, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! Now that was savage! “Sweet”
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jul 30, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuk M-1, Finkledink, and Fedor.. They are afraid of the Octagon.. Period, end of story..
by Raiderbeast on Jul 30, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
I’m sure that’s the case, they are just afraid, yeah, let’s keep telling ourselves that. Great logic, raiderbeast.
by Gleb on Jul 30, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s kind of looking that way Gleb! The UFC have bent over backwards to accommodate these crooks, but still no contract signed.
by attakdog on Jul 30, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not the problem with Fedor being afraid, it’s Fink being greedy. I just wish Fedor would fire him, but it seems that they are friends, and Fedor is willing to be dragged down by the hopeless venture that is M1. I hope they come to an agreement, but it seems that M1 is demanding way too much. Co-promoting with M1 is a horrible decision and UFC would be fools to agree to that. I am as a big of a Fedor fan there is, but I can admit that he is not big enough of a draw for UFC to co-promote.
by Gleb on Jul 30, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
But maybe all this co-promoting sh!t is a smokescreen. Maybe M1 are scared of their cashcow losing to the real competition in the UFC and his stock falling, so are using this cross promoting as an excuse, knowing full well the UFC would never agree to this. Just a thought.
by attakdog on Jul 30, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, well people were saying that he was going to lose to “real competition” like Arlovski and Sylvia. Let’s face it, if he goes to UFC, beats Brock then tons of people will be saying how Brock was always the paper champ and how Couture is too old, and Mir is over-rated. Haters just never shut up.
by Gleb on Jul 30, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor is the Man Bear we all know this. But you give me 1 guy in the last 5 years that Fedor put down that Brock would not G&P into dust? Fedor Has to fight the top guys to uphold his Top 3 P4P and this tool Vadim is nuts if he thinks that the washed up UFC fighters Fedor smashed makes him the number 1 HW. Plzzzz if the UFC guys he faced were “Top” guys then why did Dana let them go? The only real UFC fighter in his prime that Fedor almost faced was Randy. Come to the UFC and be true #1 or keep fighting the Hong-Man Chois of the world…
by Xsjado on Jul 30, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
So, by your logic, xsjado, if Brock would lose to Fedor and then would lose his next fight, wouldn’t that make him washed up? Give me a break, there is nothing wrong with Sylvia and Arlovski, Andrei is still top 10 material, and Sylvia is still a dangerous fighter that can get there with a couple of decent wins (if he gets in shape).
by Gleb on Jul 30, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Does the term “Glass Jaw” mean anything to you. Hi welcome to MMA. Did you even watch Sylvia and Arlovski last few fights? Sylvia last go at the ring/cage seen him get COLD KOed in 9sec 1st rnd and 36sec 1rnd. Same with Arlovski NO CHIN last 2 fights both KOed. They have no “Button” anymore and you cant fight without that. So yes they are not even in the top 10 of HWs. And Fedor was going to MURDER Barnett and say the same shit “I’m the UFC HW killer”.
by Xsjado on Jul 30, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
if they had no “button” that means that they couldnt be knocked out. the term “on the button” is used when a fighter lights are “shut off”. what was it you said?…“Hi. Welcome to MMA”.
by Andrew on Jul 30, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
lol fuck the button they dont evn have the light any more… so yes they are button less
by Xsjado on Jul 30, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
They offer the UFC, what they have every other organization they have partnered with. Complete and utter financial disaster and bankruptcy!
M1 has done absolutley nothing for MMA, the growth of MMA, the development of MMA other then at the lowest level.
They have never been involved in 1 single money making PPV event.
partnering with M1 means only one thing failure!
I could careless right now, really I just want fedor and his clueless managers to just go away!
What org has Fedor had a fight in that is even around today? There is not even 1, enough said. And if he had a fight in M1 and they paid Fedor what he supposedly is worth M1 wouldnt be around long either!
by badguy on Jul 30, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
Great post badguy. M1 have contributed nothing whatsoever. This finkeliseinhorn bloke reckons he’s been involved in MMA promoting for 12 years. You’ve wasted your life sun, find another vocation. You’re not even big enough to promote Bum Fights!
by attakdog on Jul 30, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
new fight announcement:
M-1’s next big production…
FEDOR VS LARGE RUSSIAN BLACK BEAR!!
by sarah on Jul 30, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Mcarthur, ooh! ooh! ooh! I know the answer!
HONG MAN CHOI and JOSE CANSECO
How’s that for hi caliber?
by Jrandolph on Jul 30, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just pointing out that there was still one org around which Fedor has fought in , and to answer you question Mac , I guess Choi, Overeem , Cro cop , even though not anymore I guess lol
by Lestat on Jul 30, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
;) If he keeps winning (doesn’t matter against who) then guys will always want to track him down wherever he ends up…till he loses and the mystery is gone. Like PW said, he worth more with an unbeaten record fighting cans then he is in the UFC cause odds are sooner or later he’ll lose
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
lol,horrible indeed…you should be Ashamed of yourself.
by Alpha Male on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
lets be honest, finklestein is acting as a promotor first and a fighter managers second.
which is retarded. he has his fight org’s best interest in heart, before his main cash cows.
this would be like when the ufc went over to pride in 01, and dana saying the fights chuck had, had to be a ‘co promotion’.
would be pretty retarded.
by ben on Jul 30, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor sighing wiht the UFC or not does not matter to me anymore. There has a been many threads and theory on Fedor signing or not, and this has helpled me not to care anymore.
If Fedor doesn’t sign He is definately PW by M-1. If he does sign, then awsome, he made the right decision. There will never be any kind of stability that the UFC offers.
Fedor and M1 will bounce and live from show to show. I for one, hope M-1 goes bankrupt and everyone thats assotiated with them falls along with them..
by ndnman on Jul 30, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
Who else is Finklestein getting his instruction from?? PW! PW’s the reason Fedor isn’t in the UFC! PW’s the reason we don’t get to see Brock vs Fedor! Who had the most to gain from this deal? PW! Who was responsible for this fiasco? PW!
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
And I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for you meddling kids!
by PW on Jul 30, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Who was really responsible for 9/11? PW!
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO!!! Old man PDubs up to his old tricks again…“GET THE FU*K OFF MY G*D DAM LAWN!!!!!!”
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I hopped into my Delorean, fired up the ol’ flux capacitor and ruined two presidencies! That sonofabitch Howard Taft is next!
by PW on Jul 30, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Crop Circles definitley, water gate maybe.. I’m still looking into it.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
ok..at least we’ll know for sure by tomorrow
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
What id like to know is how does Fedor even fight when he’s getting @ss pounded on a daily basis? Hope M-1 atleast buys him dinner first!
by ~Savage~ on Jul 30, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
Piss on Fedor and M-1, perfect opportunity for them to show the world what everyone seems to think and what do they offer, MORE EXCUSES. Until he steps into the UFC he will always have that * by his name, I for one no longer give a rats ass to hear about Fedor and being #1 unless he comes into the UFC once and for all. Until then, he and M-1 can go screw a goat for all I care. He had his chance and is watching it fly by, that is A-Rod type money by MMA standards…..what a pussy, fuck him and his place in history!!!!!
by KMac on Jul 30, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
I wanna if fedor is giving him a blowjob while he’s being interviewed
by Tower on Jul 30, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
If he is I’m sure it’s co-promoted by M-1 global.
M-1 global presents Fedor Emelianenko giving vadim a blowjob.
by J-Rak on Jul 30, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The audacity of this man is unreal!
I watch the M1 Global fights on HD Net (nothing special = Bodog fights)…how do they think they’re helping the UFC by co-promoting. They got Fedor…that’s it…nothing else. We don’t want, need, or care about M1. Just Fedor. Give us Fedor, or give us nothing. Where else is he going to fight? Strikeforce? Overeem & Rogers? Then what?…I guess back to the USSR to cuddle with Vadim.
by BigAtom on Jul 30, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
They should call it AM-1 Global because this “promotion” seems to revolve around this one guy. I used to like him and now I can’t wait to see him lose and then see how fast they want to sign that contract. Crazy Russians.
by J-Rak on Jul 30, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
the UFC doesnt need Fedor… this thing is getting irritating… the alleged offer made by the UFC to Fedor was insane.. UFC did pretty much bended over to try to get Fedor with that contract offer and still?!?! i really hope Dana and the UFC dont co-promote! imagine- UFC 108: Lesnar vs Emelianenko presented by M1 Global… thats retarded!! i rather UFC not have Fedor than to Have Fedor in the UFC co-promoting with the M1 pricks!!!
by JR on Jul 30, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
I like how he says there are a lot of fighters as good as Lesnar out there for Fedor to fight. Most of the new heavyweight talent seems pretty raw. Fedor will be 60 by the time some of them are ready.
by PEZ on Jul 30, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
The questions “How would Bruce Lee do in the UFC?” and the question “How would Fedor do in the UFC?” are both never going to be answered.
by Drake_Labatt on Jul 30, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
But the bruce lee question seems more likely at this point.
by James S on Jul 30, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
it almost pains me to say this, but I bet Fink makes fedor sit to pee.
by James S on Jul 30, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
FUCK VADIM!!! THEY SHUD JUST DO 1 NIGHT MEGA FIGHT UFC VS. M1 BROCK VS. FEDOR!!!
by d*locc on Jul 30, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions
I heard M-1 wanted the first fight to be Fedor Vs Mike Goldberg. Negotiations collapsed after Dana said no…
by vadim_winklestain on Jul 30, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
introvert called it……. the six fight deal has already been proved falso also….it was only three
by bigsmoke on Jul 30, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
Yep, Fedor wanting to fight for the UFC was a bluff and Dana called it.
He is not a fighter anymore, he is a businessman who does some fighting. What else can you conclude when the opportunity to fight the best has absolutely no interest to Fedor, it’s all about what can be done for M-1 global.
This guy should never be near a P4P list ever again.
by Razzel on Jul 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, but he does it all for the Looove of his country.
BOOOOOOOOO!
by Jrandolph on Jul 30, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
too bad WE dont care about the same thing as him, he can keep pulling he “Ali” like behavior but sadly it will be to no avail. Someone should tell him that the Russian parliament isnt running to co-promote him so let it go.
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jul 30, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like Fedor will never fight the best.
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jul 30, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Finkle is Ihnhorn and Ihnhorn is Finkle!!! Just saw Ace Ventura on tv, how appropriate = )
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jul 30, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
Why do people continue to say Fedor is the best… anyway a one fight deal in the UFC doesn’t make any sense. The UFC doesn’t need Fedor but he would be a great addition.
by CaptainLazy on Jul 30, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
exactly! Fedor will become insignificant if he doesnt join the ufc. Who is he gonna fight? Rodgers?? Ishii?? Alex Winstein is effing up his career
by kukuxumusu on Jul 30, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol, I wasn’t trying to say he didn’t! I could’ve made my point without bringing her into it…my apologies Kevin!
by Diceman on Jul 30, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
lol, no worries dice, i got ur point. i’m a harsh guy, and ugly at that!
by kevin on Jul 30, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
NEWS
M-1 Global is denying a report that Fedor Emelianenko turned down a six-fight $30-million deal this week to join the UFC’s heavyweight ranks
Read about it here
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/m-1-fedor-not-offered-30-million-18816
by Il Nino on Jul 30, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
This is the same Commie bastard that de-railed the Fedor vs Couture fight, too!!!!
Oh wait….that was someone else….my bad.
by introvert on Jul 30, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
Simply baffling…I find myself hoping and waiting for the day that Fedor loses to one of these tomato cans he can go fight outside the UFC. This won’t be a discussion anymore when it happens. I am not a UFC lover, I simply like to see good fights. The fact is that the UFC puts on the best fights the most consistently. M1 is hoping for co promotion, and I have seen several people state that the UFC doesn’t need Fedor and vice versa…I disagree…the UFC doesn’t need Fedor, Fedor needs the UFC, simply because if he were to lose to some UFC outcast then where would he be?? He’d be a complete non factor and would drop off the face of the earth. This whole thing just doesn’t make any business sense at all for team Fedor, I now see why Dana has called these guys completely nuts. I mean, wtf…lets say for hypothetical purposes Dana agrees to co promote. 4 or 5 years from now Fedor is done fighting and retires, the UFC will still be around…M1 will cease to exist because their whole business plan retired. The only way M1 will ever do jack is by getting Fedor into the UFC and advertising the hell out of it. Seriously, do they think they will be able to compete with the UFC with 1 aging fighter as their draw? The game is moving on, with or without him…it seems without him is more likely. He will retire completely irrelevant if he doesn’t get on the train.
by chowdah on Jul 30, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
Raimond emphasized that negotiations with the UFC had been fruitful, even though the fundamental disagreement over co-promotion between the two organizations remains.
"We had a very professional, productive and respectful meeting with the UFC," Raimond said. "I think both parties walked away (knowing) even though a deal wasn’t made, that a very decent meeting was had."
by Il Nino on Jul 30, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
At least it’s something. Even though we all bitch and complain, at least the Russians aren’t slinging arrows, and Dana’s not calling them names.
Gotta be good for something.
by introvert on Jul 30, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
musta had some of those little mini pigs in a blanket served at the meeting; would make any attempt at walking away thinking the meeting was absolutley dreadful impossible.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d give my left nut for one of those little mini pigs in a blanket right about now
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats it , Im tired of dreaming about Fking Fedor joining the UFC…
by Il Nino on Jul 30, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
I would like to say thank you to the UFC management for trying to give the MMA fans what they have wanted for years.
PISS ON FEDOR’s Mangeger!! I almost hope Fedor loses his next fight just so M-1 can suck it!!! and regret how stupid they are.
by natedog77 on Jul 30, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
“I would like to say thank you to the UFC management for trying to give the MMA fans what they have wanted for years.”
You mean the Couture fight? Because the UFC already sued Randy for that…didn’t you hear?
by introvert on Jul 30, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor signed with M-1 thinking he was protecting his interests so that he would never get contract raped like some guys do in the UFC. Now M-1 owns his ass, but he’s probably okay with it since they at least speak the same language as him and I’m sure he would prefer to keep his loyalties close to home.
I think the UFC probably made a very good bid to get him, as now would be the most opportune time. It’s not clear to me what M-1 means by co-promotion. Do they want to split the gate with the UFC on all of Fedor’s PPV events? It would be terrible business sense for the UFC to make all sorts of absurd concessions for one fighter because it sets a bad precedent for them and then what happens if he loses? Anything can happen in a fight, everyone knows that, and Fedor could certainly come to the UFC and lose to Brock, even lose badly.
The UFC doesn’t need any one fighter and never will. The problem is, Fedor doesn’t necessarily need them either. He could take another 3 fight contract with Strikeforce, fight Overeem, Rogers, Werdum, Monson, guys like that who are at or near the top 10. That will keep his brand and “mystique” alive and M-1 can continue to stay alive with their cash cow still the number 1 HW in the world.
As far as Fedor personally, I don’t think he’s afraid to fight anyone and I think he stays out of the business dealings. Of course, he would be favored to beat Brock, but if he lost, it would crush M-1. The UFC can’t raise the bar too high for Fedor or the other top fighters will complain that their contracts are too small.
A 3 fight deal, guaranteed a million a fight with scaled bonuses if he keeps winning, ie: 1 million for the first fight, 1.5 for the second, and two for the third. He should also get a cut of the PPV, whatever the highest the have ever offered to a fighter, they should add something to that and then make it go on a sliding scale. If Fedor loses then it should stay at the opening rate.
As far as M-1, co-promoting, they should let M-1 do something in Russia, like show the fights in a stadium(s) or some other venues and collect the lion’s share of the profits. They can then use the UFC to pimp M-1 on banners and t-shirts.
Sambo okay, as well, obviously.
If M-1 can’t agree to this then they are blowing their chance at the big dance, because Fedor may never again be as hot as he is right now. EVERYONE wants Fedor/Lesnar. What happens if Fedor goes to Strikeforce and then actually LOSES a bout to someone like Monson, just by kind of having an off night? Not likely, but if it happens, he’ll never get a big time deal again and M-1 will go slink away.
Fedor is all about the mystique, and when your mystique is at an all time high, you make your move for the best deal you can get. Now is the time M-1. Wise up!
by revjames13 on Jul 30, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
Well where to start…
Russians are not communists today.
Finkelstein is jewish, im sure like most jews he considers himself jewish before russian.
The “Russian” mafia is actualky mostly jewish, google it.
So lay off the anti-russian comments please.
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 30, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
lol, so you tryin to persuade ppl to lay off the anti russian comments and come out with some anti jewish comments… great..
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
you know who we should really go after?…the Swiss…nobody ever suspects the swiss
by McArthur on Jul 30, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Pompous fuckers with their army knives and hot chocolate. No people are as sinister as the Swiss.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor is a unique individual apart even from his awesome fighting skills. He once indicated that he motivates himself against an opponent by thinkin that they are tyring to take him back to a time where he had no resources and struggled to get by. So, it would seem he is somewhat motivated by money but it also seems like he has reached his comfort zone. Fedor strikes me as an honest philosopher type. He’s made it clear that he would be quite happy the rest of his life w/o a UFC belt. I think he will stick to his committment to M-1 and will take less money now so that he can build his M -1 through co-promoting with Strikeforce. I think the Russians correctly perceive Strikeforce to be on the upswing and probably fancy themselves as a Russian version of Strikeforce. Right now they need each other to get to the next level and it seems like a good fit. In a couple years we will proabably all be glad that there is a healthy Strikeforce – M-1 promotion working to bring us quality MMA action throughout the world on free/premium tv.
Welcome to the bird Fedor.
by naturalist on Jul 30, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
Over this BS with Vadim Fecalmatter- M1 can have Fedor’s pudgy ass. Brock would ruin him anyway.
by daveisyourhero on Jul 30, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
by introvert on Jul 30, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions
Well… it looks like you were right. Hate to admit it.
by JTK5 on Jul 30, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally…someone with enough balls to step up.
Thanks dude.
by introvert on Jul 30, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
1.) This guy has ignorant outlook on MMA. He believes his company is larger and more effective than it really is. Aleks is absolutely correct when speaking about Vadim.
2.) Vadim is trying to be a shrewd businessman but in reality he is destroying his client.
3.) It is highly unprofessional to openly speak about their demands and the detailed specifics of their negotiations. It’s called confidentiality. If one of the main successful US MMA managers were to represent Fedor this would not play out like this.
by Bourne on Jul 30, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions
4.) None of us know what the hell is really going on.
5.) I like chocolate.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
6.) And boobies. Boobies are great too.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 30, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think there is anything wrong about publicly presenting your vision for your company and how you would like to collaborate with others. I do agree it’s not appropriate to publicly degrade someone’s offer particularly since it would result in other companies not wanting to endure the same treatment.
by naturalist on Jul 30, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
“3.) It is highly unprofessional to openly speak about their demands and the detailed specifics of their negotiations. It’s called confidentiality. If one of the main successful US MMA managers were to represent Fedor this would not play out like this.”
He is dealing with Dana.
When in Rome……
by introvert on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, there a really big company. Look under fighters: they have fedor and Karl Amoussou. REALLY BIG!!!
by Bobby on Jul 30, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
I would like to point out something. Fedor loves competition. That is why he competes in Sambo right? Forget the money for how ever many fights. He has beaten everyone not in the UFC, what is left out there for him? To prove he is the best why would he, yet alone the people that make money off of him not want him to be in the UFC. Sounds like they dont have enough confidence in their man. If Fedor were to lose, they can no longer claim he is the best in the world.
I know a bunch of people are going to flame this but reality is reality. What does Fedor have to lose with making more money for six fights than he has made up until now? He has his reputation to lose. I am not saying he is afraid, but I think that the people that make money off of him are looking at guys like Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, Gonzaga, and a few others and saying these guys could our guy. We must make up any reason not to have Fedor sign this contract.
by ASR on Jul 30, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
1. Fedor isn’t scared of Brock Lesnar. Anyone who thinks that is just plain dumbass. I bitchslap thee.
2. Russians are greedy bastards/good negotiators, depending who’s side you are on. I remember many cases from f.ex NHL, that dealing with russians is not easy. I don’t get it why Finkel and friends don’t see the UFC as the Ultimate promotion machine for Fedor.
3. Co-operation with M1 could help UFC build themself huge in Russia. UFC is not going to be big in Russia if there are no Russian fighters. And isn’t the world domination the ultimate goal of Dana White & co.
by Lappish Shaman on Jul 31, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
I’m getting sick of The Last Emperor’s entourage/partners/owners whatever the hell they may be. What is left on the table for them? Squat!!! They accept the UFC and attempt to be the Ultimate or they accept less money and fight for lesser competitions simple as that. If the dumbass Ruskies dont wanna come to the table and be “sensible” then tata and goodbye. UFC has sent us plenty of action over the years without them/him and so it will continue. The only other is Strikeforce which is great but would be mad to pay the ridiculous money being bandied around, and besides what would be proven if he wasnt fighting the UFC champ? Nothing! Dont get me wrong I think Fedor is THE best in his weight class but if he is a puppet to his masters then F#%^K Off.
by Steve on Jul 31, 2009 6:46 AM EDT reply actions
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