Fedor Emelianenko rejects statement from brother Aleks about true motives of Vadim Finkelchtein

If I was Dana, I would do what I could to force M-1 into bankruptcy.

BREAKING NEWS*************
I have a great source that will remain unnamed, but I do live in CA, close to afflictions last event!
trilogy had only sold 3000 tickets up to a week before the show!
so how much of a draw is Fedor really?

Kevin,

Makes sense. They seemed so eager to cancel, I had a feeling there was a lot going wrong with that event prior to the Josh Juice.

That’s what they said about Affliction 2, as well. Looked like a packed house to me.

I had heard this last weekend that they moved less then 5000 tickets. So this is probably legit.

Why else would you pull the plug? This is a good indicator for forcasting the PPV revenue… outlook not so good.

yup! makes perfect sense and proves Fedor has no drawing power outside of Japan!

“yup! makes perfect sense and proves Fedor has no drawing power outside of Japan!”

…and yet every story about him here gets more action than anything else.

well intro, I stand behind my source! affliction 2 looked packed, but remember the report that like 80% of the tickets were comped!

lol@intro, of course it gets play here, it’s an mma site. go to fox news and it gets no play! You’re not on top of your game today buddy! I’ve said for years, his only drawing power is the 3-5k hard core fans on mma blog sites!

so what happens if they sign fedor to this monsterous deal, and he loses his first fight? than its cro-cop situation all over again, no one cares about him, and the ufc will have paid him a tremendous amount of money! no fighter is worth that much..well not a fighter than is just coming into the organization. GSP/lyoto/silva/chuck/tito/randy/etc. should get that much..not someone who hasnt even fought there yet

point is, outside of us and sherdoggers, no one cares about this anyways. it’s not like Michael Jordan is coming out of retirement. This story is useless any where but here!

It’s silly to compare Fedor getting action on a blog site vs. drawing power. The hardcore fans of MMA like Fedor just like critics of movie films like elaborate dramas.

You could see critics praise a movie (like people on this site praising Fedor) but then the movie bombs! Just like Affliction would have.

Then you see critics hate a film like Transformers and it makes over 300 million. So don’t think for a second that since Fedor is a controversial subject on blog sites that the casual fans will go pay to see him. And mma is a majority of casual fans.

Do you think the UFC sold 1.5 million PPVs to hardcore fans. Most of them are casual.

100% agree with you Kev

The UFC is smart. They won’t lose money on a deal like that. They could probably earn it back on the 1st show, PPV of Fedor and Lesnar. Realize that they are smart with their contracts, they have contigencies based on PPV revenues. The contract will be worth that much if the UFC continues to do what they do, BUT if the UFC continues on the path they are on then Dana and Fertitas won’t care because they will be rich.

Win/Win for UFC.

FEDOR IS A MORON.

They gave him EVERYTHING he could ask for and more. Yet the contract isn’t good.

I don’t want to EVER hear anyone say how humble and how good of a guy that Fedor is. That is all BS. I haven’t EVER in the history of sports seen a contract offered SO OUT OF WHACK with what everyone else is offered, and Fedor still thinks it isn’t good enough. I’ve seen NFL crybabies more cooperative than Fedor.

He is making tons of demands that no one else in the sport could do. Which is fine I guess, BUT don’t call Fedor humble and a guy who loves the sport.

He is demanding and is a prima donna.

The point is… "You can deal with UFC, I know that they have flexible contract system. All these talks about "strict" contract terms with signing with UFC, come ONLY from Vadim Finkelstein, who wants to push his owns business projects through Fedor’s fights."

yeah, not that funny any moreBB

Fedor’s drawing power can’t be measured by Affliction 3’s ticket sales. Drawing power is about 80% marketing/exposure and 20% the actual product. Afflictions marketing efforts pale in comparison to that of the UFC and outside of the hard core MMA fans Affliction has absolutely no name recognition. If Fedor came to the UFC, and they had a real hype machine was behind him, then you can better gauge what his drawing potential is in the US. To draw that conclusion now is pointless.

Boom, trust me, no one other than us knows who Fedor is! Go ask your co worker (non mma fan). Then ask who Brock is. Casual fans have no clue!

i think he and his management keep demanding stupid shit because fedor is scared of getting his faced smashed in for the whole world to see. he is probably much happier continuing fighting sub-par competition and destroying them with little risk to him.

Boom. I agree with you completely.

But the point remains, Fedor as of now has no drawing power.

Brock has more drawing power. Now the reason is likely the UFC machine but the reason doesn’t matter as of now.

Plus you have to realize that drawing power has to do with personality not only dominance. That is why Tyson was always a good PPV guy because he was a character. Lenox Lewis always won in boxing but had no drawing power.

Fedor can’t speak english which will lower his drawing power. Plus, no one (under 5%) in America knows who he is. Brock Lesnar is known by WAY more people.

agreed newkoba!

bennie, 5% is super high too!

The “scared of facing tougher fighters” argument is a FUCKING JOKE.

I agree. But that’s because he has no exposure here. And who knew who Brock Lesnar was before he got into the UFC other than pro wrestling fans??? Now, he may not have the personality or the language to become a household name in the US, but casual fans are already asking “Who’s this Fedor guy?” If the UFC gets a hold of him, he will be a huge over here.

Brock was on ESPN trying out for the Vikings before UFC was on ESPN

The Evolution of MMA -

MMA has become mainstream. We now see X-NFL football players joining the cast of TUF. We see people like GSP and Brock Lesnar, athletes that could excel in many different sports. Yet this is new. MMA started with guys like Royce Gracie using skill to beat strength. And it worked! Royce would beat giants while raising the banner of BJJ.

Fast forward. Better athletes have arrived and so has the dollar bill. With money comes access to better training and also the sport appeals to great athletes. Enter Lesnar, a 290 lbs man-bear capable of destroying more experienced competition.

The new athletes now train with excellent BJJ instructors, Muay Thai coaches, wrestling, etc. Within a few years you can be competent in the sport.

THE SUPER ATHLETE WITH COMPETENT SKILL will be able to defeat the HIGHLY SKILLED AVERAGE ATHLETICISM GUY. Plain and simple. We saw how GSP thrashed BJ, largely because of athleticism and size. Now GSP’s skill is at a high level too but the fight was won because he over powered BJ.

Fedor hasn’t fought super athletes. He fought one good athlete in Andre, and he was not performing well until he broke the glass jaw. But guess what, Rogers broke that glass jaw faster. Lets look at Fedor’s opponents:

Sylvia
Hunt
Choi
Coleman
Crocop
Nogueira

Not one super athlete in the last 5 years! Not one. So Fedor has been fighting guys who rely on skill. Fedor hasn’t been in battles against super athletes like Lesnar/Carwin, he has fought the old school guys. The heavyweight fighters that have strength and power will not be beaten like his previous 30 opponents, not as surely and not as dominantly. Fedor fighting 3 tough fights a year will not go undefeated for very long.

there are millions and millions of WWE fans. and anyone who flicks through their channels has probably come across lesnar at some point. the WWE is everywhere.

“who is this brock guy?”
“you know, that 6’4 monster who wrestles for the WWE. banging sable.”
“ohhh that guy!”
vs.
“who is fedor”
“he is this russian who people think is the best fighter in the world”
“ohhh..okay”

brock was already mainstream name for years and years..fedor? not so much

I completely agree with Kevin, Fedor has NO drawing power. My wife barely knows who he is cause I kept telling her UFC might get a top-rated HW…“the best in the world”. But after all this I could care less about Fedor and rather cheer for Brock who makes his own dam decisions. You’re not the best in the world until you beat the best – and the best are in the UFC!

Agree with Boom. Kev i don’t think your argument makes much sense. Other than Tito and maybe Chuck what MMA fighter is a household name? You’re saying only fans of MMA know who he is, but only MMA fans order PPV. Anyone who is a big enough fan to order a MMA bout on PPV knows who Fedor is. The “casual” fan isn’t buying PPV’s he’s watching free replays on Spike.

lol, ok that makes sense, thats why Brock sells 1.5 million ppv’s and AA/Fedor sells 100k (maybe). But I make no sense!

Fedor has 10x the drawing power as brock does around the world. just maybe not in the U.S. i’m sorry, but doesn’t just a small percentage of the worlds population live in the u.s. people from about 6 countries know who brock lesnar is! people from about 100+ countries know who fedor is! his name is a lot bigger on the global stage. as hard as it is for arrogant americans to accept it, there is life outside of the North American island

not true. i know here in canada people are buying ppvs to see georges fight. they dont know every fighter or keep up to date with what match ups are goin on and stuff like that…when im watching a PPV with my friends i am usually explaining everything from who the fighters are, to their previous opponents, their status with the UFC, and so forth..so no i dont think the “casual” fan knows THAT much about the UFC, they want to see people fight!

question Newfie, is this hypothetical person who doesn’t even recognize Brock or Fedor by name going to shell out $60 to watch an MMA event? i think not. When did this discussion turn into who is more popular to people who don’t buy UFC’s Brock or Fedor?

you’re right deuce, but us arrogant americans (and canadians) in North America are the only ones buying the PPV’s and hence paying the UFC! You guys in other countries don’t pay for the fights and there for don’t count towards Fedor or the UFC’s bottom line, we do!

So fucking true!!! My wife has watched just about every MMA event I’ve ever watched. And I’ve been watching since the first UFC, pride, pancrase, all that. Believe me she enjoys watching the fights and fighters. But when I mentioned this whole Fedor situation. She was like, “tell me again which one is Fedor?” I showed her a picture, and she said “oh that’s the guy that fought that bigass Korean”! HAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

Point is that Fedor is not a real draw to casual fans which buy the big PPV’s… When Lesnar came to the UFC against Mir the first time, I heard co-workers talking about it that were clueless about MMA. These are the type of people that refer to MMA as “UFC”. You know the type you have to explain that UFC is a promotion not a style!!……………….

im bored at work. not sure about you guys. i could discuss basically anything right now. what is better – chocolate or vanilla?

Let’s be real here, the fact is Dana and Co. have built an empire and they didn’t do it by flushing money down the toilet. They are willing to offer Fedor a contract that literally dwarfs every other fighter on their roster. That right there should speak volumes about what kind of draw they think Fedor would be and the fact is they would know considering it’s THEIR BUSINESS. Is Fedor as recognizable a character as Brock to the average Joe on the street? No, but that guy probably isn’t going to be buying fights. Dana and Co. know that bringing Fedor to the UFC and putting all their add hype behind him and matching him up with the top guys in the HW division would be the single most lucrative acquisition they have ever made. We can argue all day but the $$$ don’t lie.

but i think most people wont throw 60 bucks for a pay per view, but how many are sitting down by themselves to watch?? most people will order it, have a few buddies come over who wil throw 5-10 bucks to watch. not paying the full 60.

We’ll never win Kevin. Just leave it at this – the UFC provides the most exposure and hence, dramatically increases your “drawing power”. And last I checked, Fedor ISN’T in the UFC….period.

cannibal, the UFC could market you to be a star athlete, point is, no one knows who he is now! Go look at Fedor ppv numbers as of late, no one knows who he is now! UFC could make the douche with no arms and legs a draw if they wanted to, just like they could with women’s mma, but they don’t. They understand Fedor is important to mma,but not the general public as of yet!

I know, I got a post in moderation. UFC could put mac danzig in a main event and make it a bigger ppv success than all 2 affliction shows combined, thats not the point, Fedor isn’t a draw as of yet! He is outside the U.S. to the countries where people either can’t afford to buy or won’t buy PPV’s, so they don’t matter as much to the UFC (because of bottom line) hence they get Bisping as a main event when the UFC goes there!

Kevin is absolutley right in all of this. It is going to cost UFC a bundle just to get this guys name out there. No one knows Fedor unless you are on MMA sites. He has zero North American exposure. And N.A. does pay the UFC bills.

“lol, ok that makes sense, thats why Brock sells 1.5 million ppv’s and AA/Fedor sells 100k (maybe). But I make no sense!”
Kev, that has more to do with the organization they fight for not the fighter. The UFC has brand recognition. Had Brock been fighting for Affliction the numbers would probably be the same. Let me put it into perspective: in the mid 90’s Kurt Warner played for the Iowa Barnstormers an Arena league, Warren Moon played for the Minnesota Vikings an NFL team. More people watched the Vikings play than the Barnstormers, is it because Moon is a bigger draw than Warner? NO! It’s because the NFL is an established name with a large and loyal fan base, no one even knew who Warner was. But we all know what happened when he finally got in.

I agree and disagree! If Brock was in affliction, a percentage of the millions of WWE fans would tune in! He would 100% have been a bigger draw than Fedor! Yes, I agree that the UFC is the bigger brand with more marketing behind them, my point is, Fedor is the best fighter in the world, yet unknown in the U.S.

Dude, MMA as a whole isn’t important to the general public! The UFC is trying to break through into the mainstream but does that mean they should only sign people who are already well known for other things rather than going after the best fighters and putting them on the pedestal they belong on? The fact is the only fighter in the UFC right now with any sort of recognition outside of MMA is Brock, the rest of them just aren’t household names. Maybe they should put the “Octomom” in the ring she seems to be a well known household name.

I agree, they should sign the best! When you offer 30 million, M-1 promotion, sambo etc, what more do you need to do! Chuck, Tito, the shamrocks, bj and to a lesser scale outside Canada, gsp are all house hold names to an extent. My thing is the UFC can make these guys more “mainstream” than M-1 or even strikeforce!

“I agree and disagree! If Brock was in affliction, a percentage of the millions of WWE fans would tune in! He would 100% have been a bigger draw than Fedor! Yes, I agree that the UFC is the bigger brand with more marketing behind them, my point is, Fedor is the best fighter in the world, yet unknown in the U.S.”

My point is he is known by MMA fans just like every other MMA fighter. Brock is in a league of his own because of the WWE stuff, of course he is the more recognizable character. but are those people paying the bills? not so sure. Besides as you’ve said the UFC can hype anyone but a showdown between a gorilla sized wrestler like Brock and a guy they could bill as the greatest HW ever or the indestructible russian machine, blah blah blah, that hypes itself. the all american wrestler vs the russian wrecking ball, you can’t write this stuff. it would be gold. forecasting the PPV draws based on affliction is a mistake.

I think we’re on the same page cannibal!

“I agree, they should sign the best! When you offer 30 million, M-1 promotion, sambo etc, what more do you need to do! Chuck, Tito, the shamrocks, bj and to a lesser scale outside Canada, gsp are all house hold names to an extent. My thing is the UFC can make these guys more "mainstream" than M-1 or even strikeforce!”

Agree 100% with regard to Finkelf@ck screwing us all!
i was just making the point that fighters should be signed based on their abilities and their potential drawing power, not on the drawing power they bring with them. as we’ve agreed the UFC can hype anything, no need to bring your own hype to the table

kevin why do you think the ufc went out of there way to sign a fading cro cop? would he sell 100k ppv’s in america? no he wouldn’t but globaly him and fedor are probally more markectable than any ufc fighter and thats why they are going out of there way because down the road they want to own the world not just the american markect. do you think the ufc is going to pay him the most ever because he is not going to make them money? there not doing this to get the best hw for us, they no he will make them a ton.

lol, we’ve argued to agreement. funny!

I agree roy, but go to the thread above, europeans don’t pay for ppv’s like we do! They will have to spend a ton on marketing him to get their return! Of course they’ll make money, thats the point of being in business!

and proof of that is them signing cro cop to a big deal,you think they just did it for fun? no they saw what he brought in on that last card and new it was profitable to have him on there rooster.

ok, kevin you are right!.. bottom line Fedor is not a superstar when it comes to selling tickets outside of japan and he would never become a bigger star than Brock Lesnar, cause the man doesn’t speak for himself and he’s extremely quiet, never shows any emotions!

I think it’s funny that mania always puts up the “juice” pics of the fighters..

Fedor would give the UFC more global appeal. He is a big star internationally. It would also further legitimize them as THE premiere MMA promotion.

Yes, they are already there, but there won’t be any fighters outside the UFC that anyone can reasonably claim to be the best in their weight class. Fedor COMPLETES the UFC roster. He ends any remaining speculation and debate over where the best fights are to be seen.

He also gives them the chance to put on the biggest-selling PPVs in history. The HW division is where the big PPV buys are, and the superfights he could have with Brock or Randy would sell themselves, as even casual fans would be eager to see this Russian guy with the amazing highlight reel they’ve been hearing about. Imagine the hype for those fights.

So it is worth it for the UFC to make these unprecedented offers, because they know they’ll get not just a monetary return on their investment, but will also reap the rewards of being THE Superpower in the MMA world, and detractors or rival promotions will no longer have any claim to being able to match their top-teir talent. As fans, we would finally get to see who the best HW in the world is TODAY. This new crop of young HWs hasn’t seen anything like Fedor before, but you could make the same argument the other way.

Personally, the only guy in the UFC that I would give a chance of beating him is Lesnar, because (obviously) of his size and athleticism. That said, I also think Lesnar’s chin is not that hard for a good striker to connect with, and with Feds it might only take one good shot. He also has the best sub game of any HW besides perhaps Big Nog.

Anyway, fuck it. I don’t know what to think about Fedor and his shitbag Scumlord Russian management right now. I feel let down, but I don’t want to let my own disappointment cloud the fact that I really have no idea what’s going on in this negotiation, and I am going to wait and see before I pass judgement.

I think I know what’s going on. Fedor said in an interview he’s still under contract from M1 so that’s why
he’s looking for co-promotion, instead of joining UFC.

Most people don’t get it, he’s being honorable by not betraying his friend and sticking to the promises he made to him. So like i said..he’s still under contract from M1 for a few fights..people gotta realize that .

That being said, I believe Fedor will join UFC some-time in 2010 once his contract is over because then he will truly be a free agent.

I agree.If the UFC is offering Fedor those terms listed and he doesn’t take it…..I will never watch him fight again no matter where he fights.That is totally ridiculous.Maybe he’s scared of Lesnar.

Not sure if anybody made this point yet or not. I think that part of the reason why Dana White would be willing to have a contract for someone that has relatively no drawing power in the US is partially due to just that. He is considered the best HW by hardcore fans, yes, but he is also huge over in Japan. If the UFC wants to do an asian card at some point, (if Crocop can win another fight or 2) then Fedor-Crocop II would be a massive draw overseas.

Yea this pisses me off, the UFC bends over backwards for Fedor when it should be the other way around! It’s a privilege to be in the MLB, NFL, and yes, the UFC. Screw him if I were Dana I would tell him to fight for Japan instead, the U.S. is not interested.

i’m sure most of the worlds population could care less about the NFL,MLB, n NBA. to the countries of Europe, Africa, n Asia, the ufc is just a regional show. these continents n countries had their own fighting org’s long before ufc got popular in america. most countries in the world could really care less about an american brand!

yea yea American brand…and yet, who holds the most top 10 fighters in the world??? The American brand. And don’t get me wrong the UFC promotes in other countries as well…just letting you know in case you’re still under that rock.

Deuce don’t be mad that North and South America have the best fighters: Penn, GSP, Silva, Henderson, Lesnar (adding him here for sh*ts and giggles).

Are you from London or something? Bisping fan perhaps???

Deuce, the fans around the world might not care about the “American Brand”, but most of the top fighters do. Anyone who wants to get paid well to fight, knows that they have to eventually end up fighting in the U.S. It’s just the way it is.

no i’m from Arkansas, just been overseas for the past 5-6 years. silva never could beat any asian’s in pride. penn is pathetic, had he grown up where i did, his so called 100-0 street fight record woulda been more like 0-100. i would’ve put that kid in the trash can in high school n made him not ever want to fight again. probly taken his lunch money too, especially since his parents are wealthy. n a lot of the top fighters u speak of talk about they’d rather fight in japan. rampage always says it. for a decade the ufc watched their biggest stars bolt for PRIDE. guys would win a ufc tourny, n head straight overseas, b/c that’s where the big shows were. PRIDE sold out 40-50k seat arena’s. ufc has never sold more than 20k seats to a single show. and fighters gettin paid well. boxing matches in south Africa pay their headliners more than the ufc does. fights all throughout Europe top ufc in fighter salary. the ufc never would’ve been half of what it is now had it not been for foreign fighters. face it, the majority of americans r liberal panzies who’ve either been spoon fed or spoiled. Not good pedigree to make ‘tough’ people. as individual people, on a global stage, we’re viewed as cowards who hide behind our money n technology. countries r scared of americans technology n money, not of the individual man. we were never really afraid of USSR’s technology, we were afraid of their individual man n his mindset. we’re not afraid of Al Qaeda’s technology n knowhow, we’re afraid of it’s individual members. we’re not as cool as we think we are, r have been led to believe from our mommies n daddies

yeah, but who would turn the deal down? unless he’s guaranteed to headline 4 CBS shows a year, who can promote him like the UFC? Thats my only point! I’ll be honest, at this point I don’t give a shit, have no vested interest in this (like John), I’m just thinking with my head! Thats retirement money and M-1 promotion!

“yeah, but who would turn the deal down?”

It isn’t a deal…it’s a fake news story. It’s obvious.

I disagree intro (and we’ve been agreeing a lot lately). I sincerely believe they turned this deal down, especially since they’ve come out and said 30 million was with “projected” ppv sales!

he signed the fucking contract, the ufc and m-1 are trying to pull one over on you because some dumbass leaked the story don’t doubt dana would do something like this, he plays pranks on everyone, why would he stop at his fans? he wouldn’t he knows what people say online and reads it so he’s probably sitting there with a beer in hand laughing his fat baldheaded ass off with chucks dick in the other hand

lol. Yeah, Dana is pulling a joke on us.

No way dude.

Dana is trying to land a big contract and expand his business more worldwide. This is serious time, not joke time.

Intro, I’m saying this as a friend: Go put your tin foil hat back on so you stop receiving messages from the aliens telling you that this all a big practical joke by Dana.

introvert . . . Vladim has admitted the deal and not wanting it . . . is he in on the fake story that makes him look bad . . . .

Maybe its April fools day?

for sure

I’m calling it Fedors scared. I hate to say it because I think Fedor easily beats Brock but has anyone thought that they are just pushing this crap so they have excuses. For example the first issue was money.. well 30 mil is quite a bit for any fighter and no other company could offer Fedor near that. Next was his in ability to perform in Sambo. Well Lorenzo was quoted on Sherdog as saying that he would be willing to bend on that issue. Now they are allowing Fedor to market M-1 as well as giving M-1 a cut of their revenue? wtf Fedor if the UFC decided to cross promote you would refuse to join based on the fact that they didn’t build you a stadium in Russia and lets say they did build a stadium I’m sure Fedor would refuse to join unless Aleks could join the UFC… thats because Aleks can’t. Hell man your own brother is saying look at whats in front of you man, your getting what you want… its your manager who isn’t. I’m so tired of this crap and now Fedor is going back to fighting cans, I hope Bobby Lashley gets good enough to beat him, I’m quickly losing interest in Fedor and his ridiculous antics.

Fedor is scared.

Fedor please talk to the media and tell us what they didn’t give you in the contract?

A house made of solid gold?

A new statue built of you in every city in America?

What is it that you want?

I know where you’re coming from but who??? There’s no chance of him being beaten if he skulks off to Japan and fights Jose Canseco and Bob Sapp for the rest of his days.

He and M1 know what many of us know, he can’t compete with the UFC monsters like Brock or Carwin, that’s why they’ll reject the UFC’s incredibly generous offer and send him off to Japan – The Land of the Falling Can!

Its all about keeping his legacy intact!

Truth.

pat,

Thanks for the post. I wish someone would have posted it before now. It gives insight.

he is not afraid to lose…he’s sooo patriotic that he’s afraid to let Russia down…especially against an American…so ya I guess he is afraid in a sense

Have his handlers told him that the Cold War is over? Now there is only shame in losing to someone from a terrorist country, not America.

Did any of you consider that Finkelchtein and Fedor may have, on a dreary St. Petersburg night, decided to have a vodka session, where Fedor, totally blind drunk, sold his soul to Finkelchtein for 50 rubles?

What differnece would it make?

Your the one on here call all of us idiots for believing the terms that have been leaked. If they come out and give us the REAL terms that have been offered then they can maybe turn the tide.

Whatever dude.

Like I said, M-1 could tell you that the UFC offered Fedor a 12 fight deal, for a bottle of Vodka per fight and everyone on here would scream SIGN IT YOU GREEDY BASTARDS!!!!!!

I honestly dont know what everybody would say and neither do you because we have yet to hear anything from Fedors side of the negotiations only that they wont do anything but a CO-PROMOTION. Why no give on their end but all the give seems to be on the UFC side??

introvert, you are officially the biggest m-1/fedor nut whore and an incredible conspiracy theorist.

Where’s Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?

Introvert was the second gunman!

Emphasis on seven days maybe because you could not have been more off when it came to just about every Affliction story. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

leave him alone mania!

lol

Wow, mania…upset that I can use logic and be more accurate than you and your “sources”.

KIMO still dead?

Yeah, especially when the logic you use is flawed and historically wrong more often than not. I just think your shtick is so old and predictable.

LMAO….Mania care to make it interesting?

I’m sure we can come up with some sort of wager.

I say that M-1 comes back and says that these “contract terms” are false, and that they got an offer different than these ones.

We on?

Well?

You gonna stand behind this story or not?

Let’s make it interesting.

100% agree with Mania

Intro, why would you believe M1’s contract info over the UFC’s??? Biased much. How would you know which one is telling the truth?

“Intro, why would you believe M1’s contract info over the UFC’s??? Biased much. How would you know which one is telling the truth?”

I wouldn’t believe their’s either. Never said I would.

There’s 3 sides to every story (especially in scenarios like these)…the UFC’s side (this leaked story)…M-1 Global’s side (the rebutal that I’m sure we’ll hear soon enough)…somewhere in the middle there’s the truth.

Ok so Dana is leaking terms to Carmichael Dave. But the terms he is leaking are false. Make up your mind.

He’s leaking false terms.

Seriously were you born yesterday? Have you never heard of people using their media sources (you) to gain an advantage in contract negotiations?

Seriously?

intro makes a point there…only if M-1 hadn’t come out and said 30 milion was based on ppv sales (projected). they basically confirmed it!

looks like YOU LOSE intro, wrong AGAIN, like usual.

No, just promise you will stay gone forever.

What? And miss watching you guys in your Dana White circle jerk?

Never.

LOL like you didnt just come from the circle jerk with Fedor and his posse of 35.

ooooh

Now you show your true colors. You won’t even stand behind your claims of “supposed offers”.

I stand behind my claim that these are fake terms.

100%

And I stand behind the fact that you do not like the UFC

“And I stand behind the fact that you do not like the UFC”

I don’t watch the UFC to praise Dana White… I watch becasue I like good fighters.

Ill bet these are the terms and that there was even more to it and in it for Fedor, some stuff deemed not that important to a short sweet story was left out and this will be known soon.

I imagine you look like Dobi from the Harry Potter movies following Fedor around and annoying the sh*t out him so much that he proceeds to kick your a$$ across the room.

I don’t watch kids fantasy movies…they cloud your judgement.

I guess I can understand that since your everyday life is already in some alternate fantasy world.

no, but they retracted it, and even main stream news was reporting it!

lmao…main stream news eh?

TMZ?

Yes, they retracted it….just like this one will be retracted when M1 says that these terms aren’t the terms that were offered to them.

Get it yet?

Yeah, well, radicals tend to be idiots mostly. But I’m yet to go that far regarding Intro. But soon enough probably.

M1 pretty much confirmed those terms…now what?

just saying, every post you write is laced with snobbish and arrogant words. u know your mma, most of your non-ufc related posts are good. i would just like to come on to my favorite mma blog and read about mma related opinions. not how everyone on this site without the handle “introvert” is an idiotic dana white-ball sucking retard. u have strong opinions, as does most everyone one here. but kevin and john dont personally attack those who dont share their opinions. take notes from them.

Who did I attack?

I just state my opinion, then wait for guys like you to attack….happens every time.

Well if it happened now I would say the UFC are a bunch of pussys to bow to those demands. To a casual fan it might show them that there is another company out there that they can watch MMA and maybe take away from the UFCs draw (very unlikely) but even if I or U dont believe that they still have to make GOOD business decisions.

Thats what they have always done… Has he EVER fought in an exclusive M1 Global event? dont think so

It’s not just that they want the name of their org. flashed on the screen or to have Goldie & Rogan mention M-1 in glowing terms throughout the broadcast. It’s that M-1 expects equal partnership on the PPVs, taking a 50-50 share of all revenues when all they are doing is providing one fighter. To get half of everything while doing next to nothing and not contributing to costs or marketing, in addition to Fedor’s salary and PPV bonus, and building their own business on the back of everything the UFC has already done is ludicrous.

This is no different than a couple guys with broken noses walking into every restaurant in Brighton Beach and “recommending” a linen service, trash service, etc. to the owner while also collecting a “protection fee.”

“It’s that M-1 expects equal partnership on the PPVs, taking a 50-50 share of all revenues when all they are doing is providing one fighter.”

Where did you get this info from?

First, they are only providing one fighter because they only have one fighter. At least they only have one fighter anyone is interested in.

And M-1 isn’t looking for a simple sponsorship arrangement like Bud Light has, only instead of giving the UFC X number of dollars for the publicity they allow the use of their prized free agent fighter; they want to co-promote. The problem there, according to Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports, is that “M-1 Global officials have shown zero awareness of how to promote and aren’t giving any indication they’re trying to learn.” These idiots do not know how to run a promotion, secure fighters, book fights, get an arena, get TV or PPV deals in place, market the event or do any of the other million things that go into a MMA event. These guys are bringing nothing to the table, except ONE fighter, and expect Dana to bend over and kiss their ass.

I guess that sums it up.