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BJ Penn not sweating the small stuff in Florian's 'last' title shot

Yesterday’s UFC 101: "Declaration" media conference call gave UFC lightweight champion BJ Penn and current number one contender Kenny Florian a chance to square off before their Aug. 8 fight. The build-up was all part of the game for Penn, who frequently finds himself in a personal grudge match with his opponents heading into a bout.

"I don’t know how I get caught up in this stuff," Penn explained, admitting that he’s had personal feuds with past opponents, including former lightweight champion Sean Sherk. "The Prodigy" famously accused Sherk of "cheating" after the "Muscle Shark" tested positive for banned substances following his title defense against Hermes Franca.

And then there’s reigning welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre.

"The whole GSP thing got started into hyping up the fight," Penn says, "and then Prime Time wanted to portray me as an asshole instead of some guy passionate about winning his dream fight. And then Dana goes and calls and starts speaking about stuff he doesn’t even know about, saying I’m surrounded by yes-men. And then back and forth, and that just blew out of proportion."

But beyond Penn’s criticism of Sherk and the media — even beyond his past feuds with former champions Matt Hughes and Jens Pulver — sits the grand-daddy of them all: "Greasegate," or the infamous greasing scandal that rocked UFC 94: "St. Pierre vs. Penn 2."

And this, albeit complicated enough, brings us to the current challenger to BJ Penn’s belt, Kenny Florian, who inadvertently found himself tied to the middle of the controversy because of a certain text message he may or may not have sent prior to the January 31st bout.

But thanks to the conference call, we now have both sides of the story ... sort of.

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In a nutshell: Florian claims he had a conversation with Dave Weintraub — a writer following Penn at the time — that referred to Florian’s previous opponent, Roger Huerta, as a greasy fighter and also told Weintraub to wish Penn "good luck" in his upcoming fight against Georges St. Pierre.

Penn claims the message received was that GSP greases, which, as Penn puts it, "actually led to us making the pre-bout warning in the fight at the arena when we got there" — the pre-fight warning being that the Penn camp warned ringside officials to keep an eye out for illegal greasing tactics used by GSP’s camp … which wouldn’t have been a big deal, except that there were illegal greasing tactics used by GSP’s camp.

Thus followed the media frenzy that was "Greasegate."

During yesterday’s conference call, Florian corrected stories from Penn’s camp that he ever accused GSP of greasing, saying he was only referring to Huerta, "Those are the only accusations that I’ve ever made about a fighter."

And as the champion finally summed up, either Florian’s lying, Penn’s lying or Dave Weintraub got his texts confused.

"As far as that whole text message thing with Kenny. That’s small stuff. We gotta go in there and fight for the championship of the world. That’s small stuff, that text message stuff. (Laughs) I don’t know how I get caught up in all this stuff. (Laughs) I gotta laugh it off myself."

Not sweating the small stuff may, in fact, be Penn’s best strategy, given his opponent’s considerable evolution in the sport since his UFC debut at The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) Finale back in April 2005. The TUF Season One Finale saw an out-sized and out-gunned Florian lose in the first round to Diego Sanchez in a middleweight contest.

Since then, Florian has dropped down two weight classes, earned a title shot for the then-vacant lightweight strap against Sean Sherk (which Florian lost in October 2006) and then continued to demonstrate improved stand-up and ground games en route to wracking up six more wins (nine UFC wins total) over such lightweight fighters as Joe Stevenson, Roger Huerta, Joe Lauzon and Din Thomas.

In fact, it’s his two lone Octagon losses that Florian cites as being key to revamping his game, both mentally and physically.

"Did I have to revamp what I did?" Florian said, "Yeah, of course. One of the most important things is to be honest with yourself, and say, ‘Listen, look at all these mistakes that I made.’ Sometimes it was mental, sometimes it was physical, technical, sometimes all together. So those fights have really helped me a lot."

Whatever doesn’t kill you, as they say …

Florian continued, "Those (losses) are what motivate me. I don’t want that to ever happen again. It’s made me a much, much different fighter. I use that as fuel and I use that as lessons. Not only my losses, but my wins. I’m never satisfied with any performance that I’ve had. I’ll go back and watch it two weeks later and be like, ‘Man, that was terrible.’ So it’s a work in progress."

Has the revamped Florian evolved enough to outwork the champion BJ Penn?

Regardless, Penn says, he "can’t sit here and dwell on that fact, I gotta dwell on the fact that Kenny Florian — this is his second title shot and quite possibly his last — and I gotta get out there and I gotta keep the belt."

The two get a change to fight about it on August 8 at UFC 101.

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WAR BJ!

by JG on Jul 29, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so florian just called Roger huerta a greaser in his defence?? shakin my head

by JG on Jul 29, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He called Huerta out about that right after the fight.

by ehoglund on Jul 29, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why didn’t Mania post the line where BJ was making sure not to overtrain? Also i am very concerned about the fact that BJ has not mentioned how far he intends to go in this fight?

by NameNotRequired on Jul 29, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s mighty convenient how BJ doesn’t want to ‘sweat the small stuff’, now that the ‘small stuff’ has been revealed to be a bunch of stupid lies by BJ himself.

If the ‘small stuff’, was Kenny making outrageous accusations about BJ sending HIM messages, you can be sure he wouldn’t be so quick to brush it off.

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 29, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will go on record guaranteeing that BJ holds onto his title next week!

I am willing to take any bet!

by Jizz dollar on Jul 29, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am willing to guarantee that Kenny is the favorite going into that fight!… the fact that it’s a 5-rounder gives Kenny an even bigger advantage

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Penn is a -155 favorite. You lose.

:-)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 29, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t mean it like that, I meant that he “should” be considered the favorite to win since he “is” the favorite (in my mind) to win! lol did u get that?

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so.

Heh.

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 29, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2009 is going to continue to be a bad year for BJ…he talks a big game but I just get the sense that he’s really that hungry coming into this fight. He seemed more focused for GSP than he does for this fight and that would be a big mistake. Florini has been training for this fight for 8 months now…I think the extra time to prepare is going to be the difference.

by Buster Bluth on Jul 30, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought huerta won that fight, but after seeing the stats on that site(cant remember the url) i was clear kenny won, but still i hate florini,

im wasted so not gettin into a rant. but even tho i hate bj ( i do reckon he is best p4p lw out there) i hope he smashes kenny into next week, if i hear that stupid i want bj’s belt sound clip one more time im gonna go postal

bj tko hopefully by foot in ass!

by CoN'r on Jul 29, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing worse than reading BJ’s bullshit is watching his fans gobble it up like candy. The guy is extremely talented and will probably beat Florian but he has the personality of my bratty 12 year old nephew.

by Rawrr on Jul 29, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone need a ticket to the event? it’s a lower level suite ticket!
kevjack115@yahoo.com

by kevin on Jul 29, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would love to go but already got tickets to 103

by See What Had Happend Was !!!! on Jul 29, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

your full of it. We know you have tickets but stop with the b.s.

by kevjack115 on Jul 29, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WAR BJ! BJ BJ BJ!!
Lashley! Lashley! Lashley!

by Sp00ner1234 on Jul 29, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iam I the only one who thinks Florian sounds like a little kid whining for something his parents arent giving to him. “I want BJ’s belt.” I cant stand hearing that.

by Drew on Jul 29, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant Am I

by Drew on Jul 29, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you ever been to boston? Strictly comparing voices… there are a lot of Kenny Florians.

No offense- I love Boston personally.

My dads from Alabama… so i can’t say much about bad accents he is the king.

by Big Zino on Jul 29, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasnt talking about his accent, he just has no bass in his voice he sounds like a whinning little kid.

by Drew on Jul 29, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boston is all about parkin’

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the car

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If BJ wins I will be very surprised. Kenny’s got youth and momentum on his side and BJ is coming off a huge loss. Edgar should get the winner.

by spitforce on Jul 29, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ummm… Kenny is older than BJ. BJ coming off a loss and that makes it that much worse for Kenny. Also Diego will and should get the next shot. I win… :-D

by BNF on Jul 29, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Burn!!!

by tylerS on Jul 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

youth my ass, hes like 33..

by guyverbob on Jul 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL newb! Surprised if BJ wins huh? Kenny is younger than BJ huh? Edgar should get the winner huh? You just showed that you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. How could anybody be surprised if BJ wins… if anything you should be surprised if BJ doesn’t win. Kenny is older than BJ! Oh and in case you didn’t know Gray Maynard beat Frankie Edgar down a year ago and hasn’t lost yet. That puts him ahead of Edgar in line for a title shot, however Diego is supposedly getting the next one.

by RAW87 on Jul 29, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Youth? Kenny’s like 34.

by Kdog on Jul 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Youth? Kenny’s like 34.

by Kdog on Jul 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BJ has this, regardless of all the hype

by the boracho on Jul 29, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im starting to dislike florian, he’s getting too full of himself. he’s beaten good fighters but nobody who’s great and i don’t think he’ll do it here. beating lauzon, decisioning huerta and choking out joe daddy doesnt get you ready for bj. penn all the way!!!

by bobby o'shea on Jul 29, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Touche, Florian needs a loss to shrink that already enormous head of his. He’s becoming quite the DB.

by ~Savage~ on Jul 29, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think Kenny has done much to warrant this kind of hatred. I can tell you first hand that I know what it is like to dislike a fighter just for the hell of it, and it seems like this is what that is. I dont see how you can read that article and think Kenny is being a d bag, and maybe kenny has only beaten good 155ers because there are only about 2 elite lightweights out there, Penn and Aoki, and Im still not totally sold on Aoki’s mma skills. But either way I wouldnt be surprised to see this fight go either way.

by Dave on Jul 29, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey "SpitForce, change your name, comeback when u learn a little bit more about MMA..ok?

by DAVE A on Jul 30, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny called Roger a greaser long before BJ and GSP ever fought again.

by Ixian on Jul 29, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

kenflo is older than penn.

by cgc on Jul 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Both of these guys will eventually end up in the under card after My Man Diego “The Uncrowned Champion” Sanchez becomes CHAMPION

WOOOHOOO his stevia is my Senzu beans and his energy technique surpasses my mediation WHOOHOOOO SANCHEZ

WAR SHANCHEZ!!!!!

Lets get him bro then after karo,kos drop down we are gonna have are self the 3 KINGS of the lightweight divison then thats when the divison gets good cause right now all the guys suck except melvin guillard

by Goku on Jul 29, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kos/Karo/Sanchez? Kings of the lightweight division, thats a stretch to say the least

by Dave on Jul 29, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that guy re-tard or sumthing

by JG on Jul 29, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes he is

by jj on Jul 29, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once again, I like both fighters, but I just don’t see Florian beating BJ Penn. Just don’t see it.

by blackBEERd on Jul 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d take Florian’s word over BJ’s.

by Muscle Dolphin on Jul 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It seems like more of a misunderstanding than anything. But BJ’s camp warned the officals to watch out before hand and GSP’s camp did grease. So BJ does have some validity to what he is saying, as far as being warned prior to the fight.

by BNF on Jul 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BNF = The Oracle.

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jul 29, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Florian accused Huerta of greasing in the post fight conference. It’s conceivable that BJ yes man 1 got the message twisted or thought that he could motivate BJ even more by blowing smoke up his @ss and the whole greasegate was just unlucky coincidence. We’ll never know fellas and with that Florian UD.

by NameNotRequired on Jul 29, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is also conceivable that BJ is just telling the truth and it is what he says it is conspiracy theorist, calm down Oliver stone . . .

by ( (Adam G) ) on Jul 29, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how BJ is acting as if it’s the Prime Time producers’ fault that he was portrayed in a bad light. Yes, they can edit it to make you look a certain way, but they can only work with what you give them pal – and you gave them a lot of stupid shit.

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 29, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember correctly Huerta trained with GSP for Florian ..

So why would it be such a shock if he touched base with Penn too let him know that he thought Huerta/Camp greased and too be careful .. I dont see it far fetched or anything like that , I could see it going down just like that .. I friendly warning too watch out for something. If it doesnt happen np , if it does then uh oh…

by Dayzah on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GSP’s camp did F’up’ and I bet GSP uses a lot of lotion the night before or morning of fighting and looks like he shaves his body, however… none of that matters, because he would beat BJ 10 out of 10 times.

by DAVE A on Jul 30, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Florian called out Huerta for greasing right after their fight.
Maynard should get the next title shot, right after he takes care of Huerta.
I would love to see Florian/Sanchez 2, but Sanchez hasn’t earned it.
They should give Sanchez the loser of Penn vs Florian (which will most likely be Florian anyway) and then if he was to win that, then a title shot; but Maynard gets the first crack at the title.

by Dave O on Jul 29, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Diego is getting the shot regardless, he will be in the crowd at 101 so he can have a staredown with the winner, even though I dont think he deserves the shot

by Dave on Jul 29, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it’s off topic but…

Looks like Fedor’s press conference was to announce he’ll be headlining the new EA video game.

He will not be going to the UFC after all.

Oh well.

by yoshiman on Jul 29, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There was really nothing said about the UFC?

by me on Jul 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The deal may not be finalized yet, that’s all. Dana has a press conference scheduled for Friday. Don’t give up hope yet.

by BNF on Jul 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you are right…. I just got the basic brief…

by yoshiman on Jul 29, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The announcement friday had better be that fedor has signed with the ufc, and he will be headlining UFC 100 with lesnar in dallas so I can see buy tickets!

by tylerS on Jul 29, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean 103….duh

by tylerS on Jul 29, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve never been a Florian fan but I gotta say
WAR FLORIAN
and I hope he leaves all vasoline at home could you imagine if BJ saw another can of it near Florians corner during the fight
I dont think the wourld could take hearing that crap again

by me on Jul 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*world

by me on Jul 29, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are plenty of excuses for Penn to use if he loses. He already has 3 or 4 possible excuses he is rehearsing right now. The real fight begins at the end of the bout. Penn is a PR warrior and he will stop at nothing to make us all understand the real reasons for his loss.

by WereGonnaGoToTheDeath on Jul 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Penn is a panzy!! he will lose this fight mark my words ladies

by TheDragon on Jul 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think both guys are class in their own respects. I think flo is a gentleman though I’d rather hang n party with BJ anyday. mentally they both tough. People under-estimate the power of the mind. Like you hear bout the nerd that takes on a whole gang for making fun of his moma, or a mother that lifts up a car to save her baby. Its mind that drives heart, gives us vision, and the ability to question and solve. You could know a thousand techniques, that are rehearsed and go without a hitch in the gym, and yet when its fight time you can’t utilise even 1. so how much of fighting is mental? you tell me.

by WayofTheWarrior on Jul 29, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Florian only said huerta greased cus he couldn’t finish him, and kenny brags about finishing.
Huerta lost to melvin cus melvin greased so I’m sure huerta knows better.

by phenomenal angel on Jul 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they switched to a no contest so huertas loss went to a n/c
Melvins little cheating a** still hope he beats nate

by phenomenal angel on Jul 29, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would you pre warn the officials if there was no reason to. GSP DOES GREASE WE ALL SAW WITH OUR OWN EYES. Kenny, you are on the wrong end of the nasty truth and you will pay for what BJ’s beating no hard feelings!!! LOL!

by Gotta Luv Haters. on Jul 29, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Florian is a good fighter at best. I would be far more convinced if he actually beat a great fighter. BJ will win but Sanchez is probably the best at 155. UFC should get Eddie Alverez….he is better than both guys also

by estaban on Jul 29, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Penn’s biggest weakness’s are his lack of leg kicks and his lack of take downs, he just seems to be content to box, and there’s a chance of florian pulling off a slight majority decision. And for the record I hope to god penn moves back up to welter weight and fights gsp again, and gsp smashes him worse than the last time, it would make my year.

by nathan on Jul 29, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WereGonnaGoToTheDeath: purfectly put, everyone who has any common sense knows penn is a totally narsissitic, excuse making baby who I honestly can’t believe has fans after ufc 94. His pre fight,during the fight and after the fight lameness was beyond anything I’ve seen in MMA. Bj penn is the most talented and at the same time lazy, poor charactered fighter I’ve ever seen, him and gsp are like oil in water…no pun intended. ;)

by nathan on Jul 29, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

florian called gsp a greaser and like the bi.tch he is he starts denying it once called on. typical spineless bi.tch. be a man kenny, just be a man and tell the truth.

by jj on Jul 29, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All they did was put a camera in front of BJ and that’s all it took. What about TUF 5? Constantly taking cheap shots at Jens, team picks, not training his team, excuses, ect.ect.
You are just an asshole BJ editing or otherwise.

by Vulcano on Jul 30, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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