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UFC Quick Quote: 'Relaxed' Forrest Griffin hoping to make contact on August 8

"I don’t know if you’re going to get Anderson out of his game. He’s a cool, calm, relaxed guy. Very focused. He seems to have a good plan for every fight and sticks to it. I think what you can’t do is be a big slow guy that follows him around. (You can’t) be too aggressive about trying to attack him. He’s still a great counter-fighter. And that’s why his last fight wasn’t so exciting, because he’s a tough guy to attack, you know? But you gotta come in smart and just try to land punches. Not big ones. Little ones. Just land something. Just make contact. And stay as loose and relaxed as he does."

--Former UFC light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin talks Anderson Silva during Tuesday’s UFC 101: "Declaration" media conference call. The two meet up at the Wachovia Center on August 8 in Philadelphia, Pa., in what will be the middleweight champion’s second foray into the UFC’s 205-pound division. Griffin compared the difference between training for a fighter with "incredible" reach like "The Spider" against training for a fighter with "explosive inside power" like his last opponent, Rashad Evans. He did however, stop short of giving too much away and promised, "If I had a game plan, I’d be a genius and tell you about it right now."

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Gotta try something i guess! He’s gonna get killed horribly in the 2nd coz he’ll be too scared to do anything in the 1st.

by NameNotRequired on Jul 29, 2009 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

yup

by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Jul 29, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

i get to meet forrest on the follwoing thursday on marine coprs base! i hope he wins

by mikeybear on Jul 29, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

i want to see jon bones jones to fight tito ortiz!!

Ortiz/Jones!
Belfort/Henderson
Franklin/Belfort

by mikeybear on Jul 29, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool! Make sure to ask Forrest what it was like to get KO’d By A. Silva!

by DAVE A on Jul 29, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest by decision!!!!!

by Bennie Blanco on Jul 29, 2009 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like the sound of that fight, mikeyb~

tito’s first fight back should be against bones jones!!

or even banha cane~

by stinky~fingers on Jul 29, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

are u guys crazy! my guess would be that u have no love for Tito at all cause those fights makes no sense whatsoever, and it’s two dangerous no-name fighters!

Tito needs a tune up, so Forrest after he loses this one would be good or someone like Coleman..

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tito would lose to Forrest this time around; and many felt he lost the first time as well. And with the ring rust I wouldn’t put it past Coleman to be able to out wrestle him either.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 29, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but many felt that way because the whole production that night was about making ppl feel that and making Forrest look better then he really was, he was the TUF 1 champ they had to do that to keep TUF alive… so they brought in Stephan Bonnar who sat their and almost screamed when Forrest hit him with his b*tchy punches behind the ear..
Tito dominated that fight, with a wrapped up knee and a terrible back (worse condition than he’s ever been in for a fight) and still won relatively easy it wasn’t close, put it on mute if you wanna see what really happened..

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coleman is dangerous, maybe Franklin would be easier..

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha Forrest says you cant hit Silva with big Punches, and that you have to land small one! hahahah what BI PUNCHES does this tool have in his arsenal? I havent seen him throw a single BIG PUNCH his entire career

by JOhn G on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s not like he ever knocked out an opponent while having a broken arm or anything.

by KS on Jul 29, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest is a sacrificial lamb. The UFC needs to turn Anderson back into a desirable main event, and they need a spectacular knockout of a high-profile fighter to do it.

Yes, Forrest is big, but his skill-set is PERFECT for Anderson to exploit. He has very little wrestling and takedown ability, which we all know is Silva’s achilles heel. He likes to stand and bang, and all his talk of fighting smart usually goes out the window when he gets hit a few times and things degenerate quickly into a brawl.

Add to that the fact that he completely lacks one-punch power and it becomes exceedingly obvious that Forrest has very little chance in this fight. His best hope is that Silva has become so arrogant and overconfident that he makes a dumb mistake – but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 29, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i get to meet forrest on the follwoing thursday on marine coprs base! i hope he wins

by mikeybear on Jul 29, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool! Make sure to ask Forrest what it was like to get KO’d By A. Silva!

by DAVE A on Jul 29, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know, forrest win or lose is still the man. when people say ultimate fighter… forrest comes to mind. Silva better be ready.

by donkeyballs on Jul 29, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

i get to meet forrest on the follwoing thursday on marine coprs base! i hope he wins

by mikeybear on Jul 29, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

im going forrest by gnp stoppage mid round 3 from andersons back like he did shogun but he submitted shogun at the end of the 3rd

by randy murders on Jul 29, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bold statement.. I say A. Silva KO’s Forrest. Too much speed!

by DAVE A on Jul 29, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

bold statement but who did silva beat at 205? james 1 dimensional irvin? im a huge sandman fan but he is 1 dimensional and really just throws knockout punches to win, and was on drugs in the fight that slowed him down a ton, i think forrest being stronger and much much much bigger is gonna be the deciding factor in this fight

by randy murders on Jul 29, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on man. Weight/strength only matters when all things are equal. The skill gap there is too wide. Also to apply his weight where would this fight have to go? 1) to the clinch which = death, 2) to the ground which a)forrest sucks at wrestling so i doubt it gets there and b) his ground game is not even close to equal that of A Silva who’s a legit BB not only validated by the Nogs but Jacare, Galvao and Sylvio Behring. This is simply a sacrifice where they are hoping that one fighter recovers his luster by horribly murdering a bigger draw.

by NameNotRequired on Jul 29, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest will be strong in the clinch my friend.

Anderson usually clinches with guys around 195 lbs. NOT 225 lbs.

by Bennie Blanco on Jul 29, 2009 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

with Anderson’s technique he’d almost manhandle Brock Lesnar in the clinch… Anderson himself is also gonna be 210 lbs or something in this fight

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey bro didn’t hendo handle that clinch well? and forrest will be close to 240 come fight night not 225, and shogun is 100x better on the ground than anderson silva, and he got absolutely TOOLED

by randy murders on Jul 29, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, Hendo got kneed in the face and demolished… only time he did well was when he came into the clinch with dubble underhooks which isn’t fighting that’s wrestling… If Shogun was healthy in that fight for the 1000th time he would have dominated!

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you Rob, i am just shaking my heads at all these people who claim to know MMA talking about this fight like it’s a Lesnar vs BJ matchup. Also i disagree with you shogun 100x better comment randy. He just happens to use it a lot more because his standup sometimes doesn’t cut it. And if you think what happened in the Shogun-forrest fight is any indication of his grappling game then you sir are highly mistaken. It’s like sayin Shogun can outwrestle Coleman because coleman horribly gassed in their last fight and couldn’t hold him down.

by NameNotRequired on Jul 29, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL at Forrest being 240 on fight night. He was 240 when he was coaching TUF and out of shape.

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know i agree with you…i see forrest pulling off a submission

by EA_fanboy23 on Jul 29, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will eat my hat if forest subs Silva…. an i’ll put it on youtube for everyone to see….. A. Silva by devestation

by ScissorSweep on Jul 29, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

If anything Anderson would be the one to submit Forrest, he’s a f’in black belt with the Nogueira brothers..

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest is so much bigger than Anderson. He has also been tested in long wars. Andy has not. I think Forrest takes this easily.

by Piss Test on Jul 29, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Andy hasn’t been tested in long fights? Umm what? Not his fault he rapes guys. N last I checked cote was deep fight til he broke his leg cause he was scared. Lol i’d do it too. And thales was long long too. The whole way! I love Forrest but spider is going to kill kill rape rape destroy destroy him. Where’s ralphie?

by Daniel worby on Jul 29, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Cote can last that long with Anderson, Forrest can too. Griffin has hard leg kicks that Silva will try to time and counter. Griffin will throw those kicks on the way out after throwing snappy quick punches. Ryo Chonan did this to Anderson. Anderson was in trouble many times against guys. He is just a way better striker than anyone else.

by hatteras on Jul 29, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel,

ask and you shall receive. I actually have to agree with what you said about Silva having long wars. He got tested against Cote.(Im not counting Leites cause that was a f’n joke) But Daniel come on Now rape forrest. Bottom line is Forrest will decision Silva’s butt.

by Ralphie on Jul 29, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

No he can’t last as long as cote. You think cote lasted that long? Or do ya think spider allowed him to? There 2 different types of fighters. Forrest will push the fight and get killed for it. Cote didn’t press hard and also spider has said he doesn’t need to engage with lesser opponents which is exactly what cote was. Way out of his league. Forrest is much better then cote which spells trouble for him. Spider is going to kill him. Plz come back on all you guys after midnight next saturday, cause its gonna be hilarious. I’m keeping mental notes of as many of you forest supporters as I can. Thanks

by Daniel worby on Jul 29, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will be here to list you. I am 100% certain that Forrest takes this. Forrest won’t quit until he wears Silva down

by Fog Horn on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel,

Come on man. Anderson hasn’t faced anyone like Forrest. Forrest isn’t going to get clinched up like Franklin. It’s going to be a fight to the end. and Forrest will slow him down with leg kicks.

by Spicy Tuna on Jul 29, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Spicy, Anderson can’t man handle Forrest like some of the smaller guys and Forrest’s range will allow him to land some shots even though he’s slower. Also, Forrest throws good combo’s. Forrest FTW!!!!

by JCSuperstar on Jul 29, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably, but I would like to see Griffin make a go of it.

Either way, we aint talkin bout Fedor no mo. Thank God.
(for now anyway)

by Jrandolph on Jul 29, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest will probably lose but he has been known to pull of the upset. Forrest will have to stay out of the clinch to have any chance. With +350 betting odds on Forrest, I might throw down.

by Jerry on Jul 29, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest better have a real good plan or it will be nighty night real quick. Please visit my new MMA Rankings blog @ www.mmarankingsblog.blogspot.com and feel free to leave me your comments.

Thanks!

Rich

by richcon7 on Jul 29, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest dec. I hope he can pull it off But I really think anderson will land a big shot then ground n pound for a ref stoppage and Forrest will tap then say something funny In the post fight interview

by Tower on Jul 29, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

If he wins I wonder if he will do a backflip lol he will be so happy.
And yea forrest is cool, tower let’s hit up vegas day off bet some mulah

by phenomenal angel on Jul 29, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha yea a funny post fight comment i see for sure

by Ah24 on Jul 29, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Win win situation for Forrest, when people look back on his career 5-10 years from now, it will be filled with battles against the best fighters at 205.

Even if he loses against Anderson, which everything thinks will happen, it is not a huge set back, given with how they market Silva.

by DirtyML on Jul 29, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I completely agree. These guys are my 2 favorite fighters, for very different reasons. Silva is as skilled and dominant as Ali, Jordan or Woods, in their respective sports. Forrest is just a gamer, and loves to test himself, win or lose.

Whether Forrest wins this fight (which I think is could but won’t) he is still a winner for taking on this fight to give the fans what they want. Someone to push Silva and make him prove is greatness, unlike his last 2 opponents.

by sawyer on Jul 29, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looky looky, Is that an Affliction t-shirt?

by torresisawarrior on Jul 29, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I see a quick finish
Or an upset in 3rd
Ill throw 50 on forrest I’m sure he’s underdog
And even if he loses I saw the spider win, all gravy

by phenomenal angel on Jul 29, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

i would bet 500 on forrest, i think anderson has overrated wrestling,and bjj add how underrated forrest’s ground game is, and forrest has heart something everybody silva already beat lacks, and you have an upset

by randy murders on Jul 29, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silva 2nd round TKO. I’ll bet a 1/2 Zee of Some fine Sweet Skunk.

by 36chamberz on Jul 29, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

500 is a lot for me
50 if forrest wins buys me a good dinner plus a good time in vegas, since I just turned 21
Ill be down there, hope they play it at some lounges

That’s why I see upset and not to mention forrest is big guy, hell he subbed shogun why not silva.

by phenomenal angel on Jul 29, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah im kinda the same way only i don’t turn 21 for another month well august 30th goddamn them couldnt have a ppv last year for my birthday :/, but 500 on forrest wouldnt be to hard to bet knowing it’s a sure thing,

by randy murders on Jul 29, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s true I have feeling forrest pulls through, but then again he is fighting silva anything can happen

by phenomenal angel on Jul 29, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who the hell are you ppl? Ill give you a lil slack since ur both only 20 but come on! At least watch the sport before you spew nonsense. I can’t say for sure Anderson is 100% a sure thing but @ least 85% probs higher. Hence why he is the HUGE overdog. To say forest is a sure thing? And be willing to bet 500.00? Man ur mom must give you guys huge allowance! Ignorance, pure ignorance of the most decorated man in ufc right now. Have you kids ever looked @ mma rankings on ANY site? He is #1-3 in the world on EVERY single one. Hey get a clue then leave a sensible arguement. Cause Forrest won’t have any sense once spider is done with him.

by Daniel worby on Jul 29, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice, never knew u were 20 randy.. I am too, 5th aug is my 21st b-day..
betting on Forrest though is pretty insane, i wouldn’t expect for him to have much of a chance

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m old, really old. I gues I never thought too much about everyone’s age.

by Jrandolph on Jul 29, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

heres the thing, if forrest wins then everyone wins.

by donkeyballs on Jul 29, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except for Anderson Silva.

by Kobajack on Jul 29, 2009 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except spider who loses a lot of his marketting as he hasn’t lost in a coons age. And is probs the most marketable guy in ufc along with Forrest gsp and Brock right now. Eww Brock. You guys are ridiculous. Spider was gonna wait til round 3 to ko Forrest so it looked like a war, but he just texted me and after all this SHIT talking from you guys he says no he’s not letting Forrest out of round 1. Says he’s tired of ingrates. Nighty night Griffin

by Daniel worby on Jul 29, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

sucka, i’ll bet 1000 to your 500, that forest gets his ass knocked out!

by miggz3000 on Jul 29, 2009 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forest is a tough guy even if Jardine or Evans TKO’d him…I think he has the ability to win and I hope he can make this a good fight, I’m getting sick of Silva lately…I really wanted to see Wanderlei try to shut him up, but I like this matchup as well.

by Chadx23 on Jul 29, 2009 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

evans and jardine both caught a legkick to knock him out too didnt they? haha ironic 2 teammates win by the same thing with the same counter

by randy murders on Jul 29, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

jardine did’nt catch the leg he just swung wildly on him..

by guyverbob on Jul 29, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yo that’ll make a mean a** fight tho…ppv headline fight, Silva vs. Silva. I’d like to see it at middleweight tho, more at stake

by EA_fanboy23 on Jul 29, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL The same Wandy that lost to Frankilin? If Wandy couldnt beat some like Franklin How in the fuck would he touch Anderson?

by LOKIE on Jul 29, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jardine didn’t catch a leg kick, but they both won via GnP.

Hopefully Anderson gets a shot at either GSP or Fedor before the end of his career.

by Razzel on Jul 29, 2009 2:06 AM EDT reply actions  

r u serious?

by donkeyballs on Jul 29, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

im not thinking logically but i really hope griffin takes this fight. silva is apparently the best pound for pound around, or at least top 3.i agree hes an amazing fighter but im so tired of his ego hidden by the language barrier. he clearly thinks hes better than even himself since hes claimed he wants a fight with his “clone”. who the hell says that?sure hes dominant in his devision, and two wins over franklin is nothing short of incredible. and he disposed of hendo as well. veery impressive and im not here saying hes not a good fighter. but hes so damn cocky it makes me sick. in the past two fights he has let his hands down numerous times taunting his opponent rather than going in for the kill. i for one dont want to pay to see spider display how confident he is but rather put into action how good he is. people prey on gsp for his lay and prey style as of late, but if u think about it gsp is the aggresor in all of his fights. gsp gets on top of u and beats ur face with elbows ansd scores with takedowns. what has silva done lately?? hes terrified of going to the ground against guys with good bjj. u can disagree with what im saying, but it sems his last couple fights speak volumes. in my opinion youre supposed to fight to retain the title not protect it.this a holes too concerned with his own ego and i hope forrest can beat it out of him. ive never been pulling for a fighter as much as i have ben in this fight, yup im a spider hater. war forest!!!!!!

by tank on Jul 29, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I understand what u are saying, but its not that silva is scarred to hit the ground, he knows how to keep standing, if anyones fault for not subbing him is their own for not keeping him down, same as gsp, he will stand a little bit and work his strength which is gnp, but against thiago he stood for few mins, and then again nobody wants to bang with silva, that’s why forrest is here.

by phenomenal angel on Jul 29, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silva tak. s this one. Should be a great fight. Forrest has a lot of heart and will have a solid great plan. Silva’s pin point accuracy will be the difference in this fight. I’d like forrest to pull off the upset but I just don’t see it.

by Kdog on Jul 29, 2009 3:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Forrest says ,

But you gotta come in smart and just try to land punches. Not big ones. Little ones.

No wonder this guy never knocked out anybody , He dont have the knock out power and putting him with Spider Silva is suicide

by Il Nino on Jul 29, 2009 4:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice Affliction shirt Forrest!!

by Paul on Jul 29, 2009 6:17 AM EDT reply actions  

forrest will manhandle silva. he will have a huge size and strength advantage. remember, silva does not have one hit ko power. he attacks with combos and flurries. forrest is not in danger of the “big shot”. hes got the right mentality: do not chase him around. as long as forrest keeps moving, silva is in for a rough night.

by day1er on Jul 29, 2009 6:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Did you see Silva fight James Irvin? He has one punch KO power. Silva’s all about the finish…when he has an opponent hurt he finishes, NOBODY is better in the business.
This fight will last as long as Silva’s first solid kick…20 seconds later it will be over.

by MXN on Jul 29, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Silva is the best finisher for my money. Can’t wait for this fight.

by RyGuy on Jul 29, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow it must be rookie day! I totally agree with you mxn! Day1er? Well ur living up to ur name if that was ur goal! Cause you clearly have no clue about Anderson. I swear all of you forest supporters are playin a trick on us? You can’t seriously be so naïve as to not kno that spiders only fight @ 205 he ko’d Irvin 30 seconds in. No ko power? Do ur research then tell me the last person Forrest tko’d lil own ko’d? I’m waiting. Watch the sport longer then just enough to see spiders last 2 fights n you’ll see what perfection n unbeaten in ufc means. Wow I’m blown away. Mmamania? Pull this whole post wall n restart it. Maybe some of the regs will be on here talking some sense by then. Yikes

by Daniel worby on Jul 29, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel once again i have to agree with you. Silva definitly has 1 punch KO power. I would think Rich Fraklin and Chris Lebin might agree with you as well

by Ralphie on Jul 29, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silva is way overrated imo and would not in the top 3 p4p if not for his easy title-defenses. The UFC has done nothing but toss him stand-up figher cans tailor-made for him (except for maybe Henderson, but he has a tendency to keep it standing for way too long rather than use his strenghts). IMO Maia would take him out. Silva has proven he has no TD and Maia scored a takedown on an Olympic quality wrestler in Sonnen. Once Maia’s on top he could definitely sub Anderson.

People who would all beat Silva at MW: Maia, Marquardt, GSP, Sonnen, Okami, maybe Hendo.

On a side note, Silva obviously takes this one because he is being tossed another stand up fighter can. That’s right, CAN. No KO power, no technical proficiency. Just a reality star.

by frosnt on Jul 29, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that Silva is powerful, but he has never KO’d someone with one punch like Rashad or Liddell has. Irvin is as close as he has come.

Hey Ralph, his accuracy is what ends fights, not his power. Got look at the Leben fight, he didn’t KO him with one punch, it was a series of punches that hit their target. And as far as Franklin goes, it wasn’t one punch, or any punches for that matter that ended those fights. It was the Muay Thai clinch and knees that ended the first fight, and put Franklin in trouble in the second fight (and a brutal leg kick that set up a great punch in the second fight to end it).

It bothers me when people claim to be fans and knowledgeable fans at that. Yes Forrest doesn’t have KO power, and I think he knows it and admits it. He is the biggest gamer in the UFC, meaning he loves to battle and can take punishment in order to dish it out. I don’t think he will pull it off, since Silva is so accurate and calm, and such a great counter striker. Forrest loves the leg kicks, which is how Irvin’s KO came. These 2 guys are my favorite fighters, but I don’t think Forrest will win.

Guys, go back, do your homework, and then come back and talk intelligently about things, and don’t be so one sided about the person you are a fan of. It makes you look silly and lacking understanding of the fight and MMA game.

by sawyer on Jul 29, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

James Irvin’s head was already gone since he was doped up on pain killers bro

by Chadx23 on Jul 29, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

did you see the irvin fight?!? silva caught a kick, irvin curls up in fetal position, anderson tees off until ref stoppage. hello! that is not one punch ko power. good luck pulling that shit on forrest.

by day1er on Jul 29, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you were talking “KO Power”. To KO someone you have to hit them on the button. You’re saying that Silva doesn’t have the power in one punch to KO someone. I say he does….he puts that Irvin punch on his jaw, chin, temple, etc.. he goes to sleep. Silva has plently of power to KO anyone. Besides he doesn’t need to hit Forrest on the button to win by KO. IMO Forrest can get rocked fairly easily..two examples are the Jardine and Rashad fight, he was rocked and the fight was over in 30 secs. He’s going up against the best fighter in the biz that can rock an opponnet and then finish. ( I don’t think any examples are needed) I think Forrest is a very smart fighter now, so I don’t think he’s going to run at Silva and do anything stupid. I’m a big Silva fan, but I think Silva has something to prove here..so I belive that he’s going to push the pace and be aggresive and take this fight fairly easily.

by MXN on Jul 29, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont like Silva much, time for a change and Griffin is a nice no trash classy guy.

by Steve on Jul 29, 2009 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

The biggest Forrest nuthugger is back. Yes I still believe forrest will wint his fight. Overall who wouldnt be a little cautious and scared going into the octogon against Anderson. I will give him his due he is a dynamic striker WHO HAS ONE PUNCH KO POWER because of his precision. Forrest I think will be able to use his size and strength advantage to keep silva off of him and out of the clinch. People cannot compare forrest to james irvin irvin was also a middleweight fighting at light heavy.

by Ralphie on Jul 29, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

correct me if I’m wrong but James Irvin has never fought at middleweight…in fact I think he used to fight at Heavyweight, not in the UFC but in some smaller shows. I swear I remember him weighing in at like 230 for a fight or 2…

by Chadx23 on Jul 29, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Consider urself corrected chadx23. He has never fought @ heavyweight and has always fought @ 185. Don’t you guys have youtube or better yet watch the sport. He was a chiseled adonace @ 185. An absolute machine physical wise. And ko’d a few guys, best w/ a flying knee. Opening of 2nd round. One of the best ko’s of all time. Learn the sport I can’t stress it enough

by Daniel worby on Jul 29, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

he fought Okami and 1 other fighter at middleweight

by Ralphie on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya I wanna say Martin. Actually it was him that he walked out @ intro of 2nd round and he went for a chute and Irvin kneed him in the head n walked away knowing he killed the guy. Its amateur hour this am. “forest will win in the 4th” ha ha. Shows who forest fans are today. No wonder they think he’ll win. Ralphie ur all alone on credit for forest. Tell ur supporters to go away. Debate for them. Ha ha

by Daniel worby on Jul 29, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also you won’t see a boring fight with Forrest and spider. Why do you think they made this match up? So spider has to kill him. Not dance. Forest will push the pace and I applaud and respect him 4 it. Although he will get killed cause of it. Oh and were not scared to take a chance on Forrest cause as you put it he only has 1% chance, the thing is umm ur saying he’d lose 99 out of 100x then if he has a 1% chance. So ya why bet on that? I just look @ it properly and think sensibly. Ur welcome to root for Forrest but to say u kno he’ll win is ridiculous.

by Daniel worby on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey ralphie! Thanks! @ least ur arguement is valid lol. Ur fellow Forrest supporters were making u guys look retarded. Tho I may not agree that Forrest will win @ least you understand the sport and I agree with the tactics u bring up for Griffin to pull it out. I dunno if ya read what these kids were saying but wow way to be uneducated ha ha. I applaud ur balls picking forest. Take a bow, balls. Ha ha

by Daniel worby on Jul 29, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Alot of people on here don’t have the guts to root for Forrest just because they know he has 1% chance of winning…I used to like Anderson Silva, but I can’t stand fighters who do not have a killer instinct. Anderson had his last 2 opponents hurt and decided to dance around or stand still and put his arms down instead of going in for the kill, this is the difference between a passive fighter like Anderson, and an aggresive fighter like Wanderlei. I’d rather watch Wanderlei lose a fight in fashion than watch Silva win a fight in a boring drawn out gamne of “hand touch” & knee punch like he did with Thales

by Chadx23 on Jul 29, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the true fan can’t lose in this fight, as both fighters are usually very exciting to watch for different reasons. Forrest has a chance to win, and if Silva under-estimates him, and he pulls off a perfect game plan, he can win. When he fought Shogun, no one gave him a chance to win, even his biggest fans. I’m not claiming he will do the same here, but he could.

The UFC put this fight together to try and save some of the image Silva has as such a dominant fighter. The also need to protect Forrest, since he is one of their biggest poster boys right now. Even if Forrest loses this fight, if he brings the fight to Silva, and has the gamer attitude he almost always does (which is why I and so many other people love him), then he is a winner here even if he loses.

by sawyer on Jul 29, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I predict that Forrest will win by TKO in the fourth round. It appears that Silva has lost focus and Griffin has a true warrior spirit.

by Muscle Dolphin on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

dude it’s a 3 rounder..

by RoBerto on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

“But you gotta come in smart and just try to land punches. Not big ones. Little ones. Just land something. Just make contact. And stay as loose and relaxed as he does.”

I think Forrest hit the nail on the head there.

by UK_Chris on Jul 29, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Forrest is dead meat in this fight. Rashad beat Forrest like a dog so what do you think Anderson is going to do to him. Its going to be ugly!!!!!

by Spyder on Jul 29, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

The fight I want to see is Machida and the Spider. I know they will never fight each other but it would be a technical battle.

by CaptainAmerica on Jul 29, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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