Dana White: If Fedor can come to terms with the UFC, he'll fight for the title first
by Jesse Holland on Jul 25, 2009 11:00 AM EDT
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"My job is to put on the best fighters and to give you, the fans, the fights you want to see. I've been trying to get Fedor in the UFC. I want it because you want it. Believe me, I'm trying to make it happen. He'll fight for the title first. What does he need, a tune-up fight or something? ... To argue where this guy sits in the heavyweight division, we can argue that all day. Fedor has a ton of experience. The guy's been around forever. But you can't take anything away from Brock Lesnar ... It's an interesting fight. It's a very good fight. Fedor's got to come to a deal first. If Randy can go out there and cut that deal with Fedor, then Randy, get to work, buddy."
All hands on deck! UFC President Dana White continues his quest to land the biggest free agent in mixed martial arts following the sudden and dramatic demise of Affliction MMA courtesy of a Josh Barnett failed drug test. "The Last Emperor" is once again unemployed -- and once again negotiating with promotions that will best suit his needs. One has to believe at this stage of his career that it's a "now or never" scenario with the UFC and it would almost seem like fate has once again brought these two together. Now if they can finally come to terms we may once and for all find out who truly is the best heavyweight fighter in the world. Or will we?
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Captain Paycheck is gonna be pissed if he doesn’t get first crack! I like this turn of events.
by NameNotRequired on Jul 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely! Even if Affliction is goin’ under, I still love it for their fighters have no where else to go except for the UFC. This is what the fuck I’m talkin’ about!!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jul 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a simple solution for my beloved fedor! Force the uFC to make him the highest paid mma fighter on the planet and agree to fight anyone that Dana white wants him to fight, but NEVER FOR THE TITLE! Does the UFC title around Fedor’s waste really mean anything? hell to the nah! He is already recognized as the best, the UFC title doesnt add anything. He is above that belt!
Fedor could fight Brock, Randy, Nog, Mir, whoever the hell Dana wants, but NEVER for the title, that way Fedor wont get stuck in that bullcrap championship clause that he Brilliantly refuses to sign! To Fedor, the UFC belt is nothing more then HANDCUFF’S! He doesnt need it. Dana doesnt have to worry about Fedor running away with the title, and Fedor doesnt have to get locked into that BS championship clause!
Im a GENIUS!
by Jizz dollar on Jul 25, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
PROBLEM SOLVED! Book Fedor vs. Brock for a 3 round fight! Fedor doesnt need anywhere near 15 minutes to thrash the bROCKness MOnster! So, there is really no point in booking it for 25 minutes. Brock loses, the UFC can always market it as an exhibition, saying Brock didnt take it serious or some crap like that…
by Jizz dollar on Jul 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a solid reply by D. White to Randy Couture, Couture just better keep quiet and focus on winning fights.
by DAVE A on Jul 25, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You know that Dana is going to throw everything he can into the deal to get Fedor to sign, because he knows that Fedor can go to StrikeForce. If Fedor finds an excuse not to sign, it will be because he is afraid he will lose to the top UFC heavyweights. If Fedor does not sign with the UFC this time, I think the fans will lose respect for him.
by DrPepper on Jul 25, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. But can Strikeforce afford Fedor in the first place?
by DSmith on Jul 25, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor would be a great addition for Strikeforce! Him, Cung Le and Overeem could have a competition see who can fight the least amount of times!
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
What is Fedor’s big deal?
He always talks about how he doesn’t want to be remembered as a fighter, but as a good person. He says that he doesn’t even watch fighting that much, etc.
How can all these other fighters sign with the UFC and he can’t?
He obviously thinks he is special and that he can get a special contract allowing him to fight wherever or do anything he wants.
He always is saying how humble he is, yet his contract has to be tailor made like he is Terrel Owens or something. Totally different guy contract time.
Like, “you can’t leave the UFC with the belt”. So what. What does he expect, to come in and win a bunch of fights and leave? That is arrogant/selfish. He just wants to be able to do his own thing BEFORE wanting to fight the best people. GSP could sign a contract/Anderson could sign a contract. BUT not Fedor, he is too humble and nice… yeah right.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 25, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree Bennie , all this “humble” stuff is horsesh!t.
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Cung Le and Overeem would have comp but would they actually fight? By the time they decide to get off their arses it’ll be time for Fedor to retire.
by DSmith on Jul 25, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I could be wrong on this but I thought that the ridiculous demands had to do with Fedor’s Red Devil team mates getting deals and an event in Russia.
I didn’t think it was Fedor’s own financial compensation that was the problem. I thought the Sambo thing was one of the main problems.
Anyone know anything about this? John where are you?
by RobH86 on Jul 25, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor does not respect the fight game. And is NOT the best P4P champ nor is the No 1 heavyweight in the world. He beat two guys that we’re cut from the ufc for lack of performing. He should atleast have to gain is spot by fighing Mir, Couture or Big Nog.
Fedor just bugs the chit out of me.
by RoJ on Jul 25, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI Fedor has already beat down Big Nog 2 times and that was back when big nog was actually good. Both times Fedor dominated big nog. Mir is still not even in my top 5. He was built up to be so good because he beat Nog. Nog was washed up by the time that fight happened. Just like couture is washed up, why else do you think they are making the Couture and Nog fight happen. (and no Mir didn’t actually KO Nog. Nog wasn’t put to sleep. It was a TKO because the Ref stepped in and stopped it. Also Arlovski and Sylvia were not cut from UFC. They both left on their own. Either way I say Fedor is the best. Name one other person who has a record in mma of 30-0-0. You can say all day that so-and-so was a nobody. If you believe that then you should actually do some of your own research. How many nobody’s were fought by Chuck liddel, Randy C., Frank mir, Big Nog,? Look it up www.fightwiki.com
by chris on Jul 25, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither one of them was cut, both of their contracts ran out and neither of them wanted to resign. I’m not defending them, they both suck, but I figured I’d let you know they weren’t cut.
by RED on Jul 25, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
they were not offered new contracts by the UFC when their contracts ran out. same thing as being cut, the UFC didn’t want them because they weren’t performing
by bullsh*t on Jul 25, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Andre was offered a new one before his last fight, he chose to not renew. Thats why his last fight was put on the undercard.
by RED on Jul 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He wants to have his sambo, but L. Fertita said that he would compromise with fedor and say that he would not be able to compete like 60, 90, or 100 days out from a fight. After all, Gonzaga just recently competed in a grappling tourny.
Also you guys have to know that in Russia, it is run by the Mob/Govt (Which is pretty much the same thing. Everyone there is looking to get benefit and get the most profit by having Fedor on that big of a stage and with that amount of leverage.
Fedor is humble and all of that but you have to consider who is telling him and presenting him with the deals that the UFC is offering. His management is looking out for M-1 first, NOT FEDOR. Fedor and dana have yet to even sit down to meet each other. How can he know that the ufc terms are too much and vice versa, how is dana supposed to know what to try to offer if he hasn’t even met with the person that wants it.
by ehoglund on Jul 25, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i can care less if fedor comes to the ufc. i would like to see him in the ufc but if he doesn’t i don’t care. i watch the ufc every month and could care less if fedor was on the card. the ufc gots the best in the world and he knows where he gots to go
by mikeybear on Jul 25, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I truly believe that Brock will have fear in his heart if he ever stands across the ring from Fedor.
by JRE on Jul 25, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I have fear in heart just watching his cold Russian stare from my couch.
by DSmith on Jul 25, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else fell (and I am included in this) that the vibe around Fedor is like the Saturday Night Live Skit with Chris Farley and DAAAAA BEARS! hahaha.
-Guy Poses Question – Fedor vs. a Hurricane
-Everyone Replies – OHH thats easy Fedor
-Guy Responds – Ok wait, there’s a catch… The Hurrican’s name is Hurricane Fedor
-Everyone Replies -Ooooo I don’t know then.
hahaha
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 25, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
but brock doesnt even know who fedor is, so i doubt he would be scared
by E Nomini on Jul 27, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Fedor is going to sign with Strikeforce. Probably will fight Werdum. Either that, or Rogers will fight Werdum and Fedor will fight Overeem. Winners of those fights will go against eachother.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 26, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
BRING THAT SH*T DANA!!! Brock will beat Fedor down 4:35 of the 1st.
by Daveisyourhero on Jul 25, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions
BRING HIM IN THE UFC WILL NEVER BE OFFICIALLY THE BEST UNTIL THEY HAVE FEDOR !!!!
by Jared on Jul 25, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
ufc is the best jerk off!
your on this web site cause of the ufc.
hands down the best every fighter that tells media that they wouldn’t fight for the ufc is a f*&king liar!!
by mikeybear on Jul 25, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Mikey! I was just thinking the same thing and more.
by RoJ on Jul 25, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
We will never see Fedor in the UFC plan a simple. He was one guy the UFC will never require.
by BMO on Jul 25, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What the hell are you smoking !!!!!!!!
FEDOR to knock Brock the F$%K out in the first ten seconds !!!!!!!
by CUJO on Jul 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes I also think It’s to late now and that Brock is experienced enough to beat Fedor. But let’s make it happen and find out !
by Team Greg Jackson Fan on Jul 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Brock has the ‘experience’ now? All of 5 fights? Lol. Brock will be completely outclassed by Fedor no doubt.
by DSmith on Jul 25, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Even your “experienced” Brock told Jim Rome he would of course fight Fedor BUT that he needed a couple of fights to be ready for him.
by parisyan sucks on Jul 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I see this fight as being like GSP and ALves. Alves was bigger and has the physical capabilities to beat GSP but GSP was just WAYYY to smart of a fighter and I think Fedor is the same way. I am not saying Brock has no chance but Fedor would be by far the best striker Brock has ever faced and he is great on the ground. I also think one of the best allures for this match two is them both being the anti-thesis of one another attitude wise… Man I would (as someone stated a few days ago) chunk my pants if this fight got signed!
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 25, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no way Brock will win. On the lines of what Cro Cop said he isn’t a true martial artist. He is a great wrestler with amazing strenght. A true martial artist like Fedor will beat him. I really hope this happens so people will know and understand the level Fedor is on. Fedor would win in the stand up or on the ground. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see a sick Sambo throw.
by Bluepit on Jul 25, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Cro Cop is a true martial artist is he, with his outstanding ground game?? CC’s one of the most one dimensional guys out there, never developed his game at all! Every top guy knows how you beat CC. Cro Cop should shut his mouth and focus on Dos Santos and realise Brock is a genuine MMArtist and a real threat to Fedor!
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
You might want to read my post again. I never said Cro Cop is a true martial artist. I agreed with his statement Brock is not. Fedor is, but great post guy.
by Bluepit on Jul 25, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
lol. Lesnar has no chance?
If Lesnar keeps working on sub defense and gets on top of Fedor, then Fedor has no chance.
Imagine a small 230 lbs man who can’t submit a guy, underneath a 290 lbs horse with lunch boxes for fists.
Lol, lesnar has no chance.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 25, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
a 230 pound man who can’t submit a guy??? Have you ever watched fedor fight?
by TheLastProdigiousRushingAxeMurderingEmperor on Jul 25, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Point is bluepit that it’s hypocritical of CC to bash Lesnar for not being a true martial artist when he is arguably more one dimensional and just as arrogant, look at the CC-UFC-Dream fiasco, difference is that Lesnar is louder when he talks sh@t.
by David W-S on Jul 25, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
BROCK LESNAR IS NOT AT ALL A TRUE MIXED MARTIAL ARTIST!!!HE is a good wrestler and very strong!Thats it! Why someone would say he is a true MMA fighter is just plain stupid!He wins by overpowering other fighters.That takes serious mma talent,lol!
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 25, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Another weekend keyboard warrior!!!
Explain why Bob Sapp hasn’t been UFC champ for the last decade if all it takes to win fights is to have size and strength??
Lesnar combines near Olympic level wrestling, with freakish strength, awesome speed and surprisingly good hands! Just ask Randy, Heath Herring, and Frank Mir how hard he hits!!!
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok CC shouldn’t of said it,but you all are missing my point of Brock has a long way to go before he becomes a MIXED martial artist. My opinion is Fedor has way too much in his arsenal to use against Brock. And of course like any fighter Brock has a pinchers chance.
by Bluepit on Jul 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If Brock isn’t a “Mixed Martial Artist” then who is? What’s the criteria?? From what you’re saying it sounds like Fedor, GSP and Anderson Silva would be the only ones.
Is Big Nog a mixed martial artist with his limited standup skills? Is Demian maia?? Is Chuck Liddell, didn’t see him doing many submissions????
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL! Are you a WWE fan?Lesnar is not a MMA fighter.He is a great athelete,wrestler but MMA fighter NO! You dont become a true MMA fighter in 2 years jacka**.Fedor is!I’m not saying that Brock wont someday be a great MMA fighter.He likes the sport and has alot of talent.When I see him submit a guy then I might think different! As for how hard he hits,NO SH**! Thats all a part of the whole winning on power and size. Brock couldnt even keep Randy down so I’m not sold on his great wresling either!Size and power! Thats all Lesnar has at this time!Its working for him until someone like Fedor shuts him up!
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow did you just compare Brock to Bob Sapp. Brock’s wrestling is awesome and Sapps is non existent. I personally think Brock is a great competitor because of his skills he brings to the table. Just being a student of MMA I like and appriciate those with a well rounded arsenal. Maybe if you had the years of traing I have you would see what I see. But you like to see people get hit and go boom boom.
by Bluepit on Jul 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The truth is Brock Lesnar is a “True Mixed Martial Artist”! He’s obviously not as well rounded as a Fedor or a GSP, but to dismiss him as not being a true MMArtist just shows breathtaking ignorance!
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock throws a couple punches,outpowers the guy to the ground,gets in in a bar room headlock and punches away! Once again,all he has is size and power!
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 25, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Charlie you are without doubt a ret@rd. Lesnar’s wrestling skill is not in question, they simply give away national titles dont they????
Chuck Liddell wasn’t a true MMA fighter then coz he’s got no submission wins? What’s the criteria to be a true MMArtist. Must you have 5 KO’s, 5 submission wins, 5 decision wins???? Please explain to me weekend warriors.
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Is bluepit the only other one on her that understands what a true mma fighter is? I’m not saying that Brock isnt a good fighter,he just is one dimensional!
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Big Nog yes, Chuck a little one demensional and maybe that is one of the reasons he has been having problems. Maia is just jits for now. There is a huge list of true martial artist. I personally like to see well rounded fighters and think they will do the best. Quick example, everyone in the UFC that has a belt, but Brock.
by Bluepit on Jul 25, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I;d be glad to! Chuck had great stand up,great takedown defense and submission defense.Plus a very skilled wresler.Not to mention all the guys he fought were the same size and wasnt being just overpowered! Your getting confused! Brock is a great fighter and has a load of skills to start with but is just not a true MMA fighter.He only has 4 mma fights,lol. Not even in the same league as Chuck Liddell.Not to mention Brocks WWE antics are of a spoiled 3 year old!
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Bluepit, if you posted on here more than once a month I might respect what you say! You no absoloutely nothing about me, and to say I only like to see fighters who “get hit and go boom boom” is ridiculous. My favourite fighter of all time is Royce Gracie, and my current favourires are GSP and Demian Maia, with Brock a close third.
I wasn’t comparing Brock to Bob Sapp. The other clown here is trying to argue that Brock only “wins by overpowering other fighters”, which I argued if that was all you needed then Bob Sapp would have been champion!!!!
Roll on monday when the sane posters return to this site, I’m sick of argueing with weekend warriors!
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Back in the day I was a huge Gracie fan but he too is one demesional.Thats why he lost so bad to Matt Hughes.
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 25, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I have been posting and mainly reading for years now. Sounds like we will agree with many topics in the future then. Glad to hear you aren’t just a WWF fan and have any appriciation for MMA fan. There are just so many new MMA fans from wrestling. All in good fun.
by Bluepit on Jul 25, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
“The truth is Brock Lesnar is a "True Mixed Martial Artist"! He’s obviously not as well rounded as a Fedor or a GSP, but to dismiss him as not being a true MMArtist just shows breathtaking ignorance!”
There is nothing “mixed” in Lesnar’s martial art if you can even call it that.
by parisyan sucks on Jul 25, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If Brock had have come straight into MMA after his amateur wrestling career instead of going into pro wrestling then he would have a lot more respect than he does. He is a world class wrestler who also happens to be huge and quick on top of being charismatic and selling fights but some MMA fans will never get over the fact that he had a successful WWE career.
Brock does not simply win fights by being big, that is what attakdog was trying to point out, being big does not win you fights in MMA, look at Sapp and Choi they are both embarrassed everytime they face good fighters. Brock uses his wrestling along with his size, strength and speed to take his opponents down and smash them. Only Randy has had an answer to his wrestling and there is no shame in that, Couture is a world class wrestler, but Brock still had too much for him.
Lesnar may not be as well rounded as Fedor but who is, only the true elite of MMA like Fedor, Andy, GSP and Machida are experts in several styles and all of them have been in training in several disciplines far longer than Lesnar. Brock has only had 5 fights, losing 1, and is still the best UFC HW. He is not a well rounded MMAst yet but has an excellent wrestling base and if he continues training in other martial arts then he has the potential to dominate the HW division.
Lots of quality MMAsts have a dominant base in one art, GSP has wrestling, Machida has karate, Fedor has sambo. It takes time to develop skills in other areas and Lesnar is a relative novice to the sport. Some people never improve in other areas but still go on to great success, like Hughes. Fact is Brock is bashed for his attitude and WWE career and his legitimate skills as a fighter are ignored. Nobody is saying he represents traditional martial arts or that he is well rounded but he is a dominant and charismatic fighter who has the potential to dominate his weight class.
by David W-S on Jul 25, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
being a mixed martial artist is a lifestyle, fighting under mma rules is another thing..
by RoB on Jul 25, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Great post David. Some people just hate so much that a former WWE wrestler is coming in and destroying their beloved “true mixed martial artists” that they can’t acknowledge greatness when it’s right in front of their face.
by PW on Jul 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
To all those that are saying that Brock is not a true mma fighter, pass whatever your taking cause I would like some. Now would I consider Brock a martial artist, no not by any stretch of the imagination. However, to deny the HW champion of the UFC the title of MMA fighter is rediculous. When people come out and say this it is due to them speaking from emotions. People who say this are not true MMA fans. They may be Martial Arts fans and always cheer for the BJJ black belt, but that is not this sport anymore. Is Carwin a true MMA fighter? He has wrestling and boxing but no submissions so by your criteria he is not. Chuck needs to go back to fighting in the octagon to get a few submission victories or he will not be considered an MMA figher.
I understand that Brock is an ass and really not the best spokesperson for the game, but complaining about how he wins is childish. His last fight was dominating and brutal to someone that is as good on the ground as Fedor or at least that is what all of you were saying before UFC 100. Brock didnt break any rules, he didnt lay and pray as he was accused of during the Herring fight. He punched the sh&t out of Mir. However, the strategy for this is of course to discredit Mir as a good fighter just as they have done with Randy, and Herring instead of giving him his credit.
Hell, even Mir is saying he just underestimated Lesnar’s size now and if he was 10 pounds bigger he would of won that fight. I hope they do fight again…. Mir will be taken out on a stretcher…. arrogant prick.
As to what this post is about. Fedor claims he just loves to compete. My question is does he really want competition… if he avoids signing with the UFC he just wants to fight not have any real competition.
by ASR on Jul 25, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks David and PW for restoring my faith in humanity. Felt like I was single handedly taking on the weekend warriors, but at last some sense from some regular posters, thanks guys!
by attakdog on Jul 26, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
If he beats a 4 Fight Champ, it still doensn’t mean much, but he will get beat in the UFC eventualy.
by RoJ on Jul 25, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If you say that Brock isn’t a mixed martial artist because he’s strong and wrestles then that means that Royce Gracie isn’t a mixed martial artist either. He only knew BJJ and had zero striking game.
Just because somebody fights to their strengths, doesn’t take anything away from them as a fighter.
by RED on Jul 25, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No not at all, but they aren’t a MIXED martial artist.
by Bluepit on Jul 25, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah! because it takes a great and a true mma artist to out outwrestle guys half your size…
lesnar is only strong not talented
lesnar is only big not good!!!
by gaara on Jul 26, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Shane Carwin isn’t a true mixed martial artist either then.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 26, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
You are also saying that Mir, Herring and Couture are not true martial artists. Because if Cro Cop were saying that a true martial artist would beat him then what does that make those guys?
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow your post made no sense bro. You might want to try again.
by Bluepit on Jul 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Has Fedor ever fought in a cage? That could be a big factor.
by BC Mike on Jul 25, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions
naw and even if he has the cage favors wrestlers, and ring strikers..
by RoB on Jul 25, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
yes and he won’t be able to grab the ropes when he’s in trouble, and he isnt the fanchise player at UFC so all of his F’N bull chit favortism won’t be a factor in his next 5 fights. Another pride guy will be exposed.
by RoJ on Jul 25, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be shocked if Fedor actually comes to the ufc. He seems like him finds all the lame excuses he can not to sign. I think there are at least 3 guys who would beat him; Lesnar, Couture and Carwin. I think he knows that also. He seems to be satisfied making millions fighting nobodies and ufc has-beens. I would love to see him sign with the ufc but I just don’t see it happening. If he does I’d respect him alot more.
by Wes on Jul 25, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
yeah carwin would probably knock him out. ive called the lesnar victory over fedor a year ago and i dunno about randy. randy relies on speed and fedor is a lot quicker it would be a great fight and if fedor ever goes to the ufc i would love to see it
by Jared on Jul 25, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Carwin is very heavy handed but will be completely outclassed.
by DSmith on Jul 25, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
“is your name danielle?”
“No.”
I have no idea why, but I found thought that was hilarious.
by Dayman Fan on Jul 25, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew this chick named Danielle Smith in high school. Thought you might have been her. Oh well.
by PW on Jul 25, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol@ PW. Seriously, what a stupid question. Anyhow, my handle has NOTHING to do with my real name. It’s actually a friends name.
by DSmith on Jul 25, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
come on, randy would never take him down and he would get ko’d in 2 minutes.
by shamo84 on Jul 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor fought nobody? Wes you obviously don’t know anything about Fedor. Look up his record then talk. He has fought many top ten in the world multiple times. Fedor would beat any of those three especially Carwin. The only problem is Dana and Fedor are too hard headed to get this done.
by Bluepit on Jul 25, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes Dana is hard headed, but the dollar signs outweigh his hard head. He isn’t the only person in the UFC who makes decisions, he just wants you to think that. Remember, he is only a partial owner, a minority partner! I don’t think Dana will get in the way of this happening. He’s compromise a bit, but it might not be enough to get Fedor in the UFC.
by sawyer on Jul 25, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Who has he fought of significance in the past 3 years???????????????????????
Glass Joe (Andre Arlovski) Mr. knock Knees (Tim Sylvia) Mr. I’m huge but have no skill (Hong Man Choi). He hasn’t fought anyone of significance besides Nogueria and Cro Cop. And Cro Cop is such a one dimensional fighter- great striker ZERO ground game. So really I’ll give him credit for beating a very good, in his prime Nogueria- but it comes down to what have you done for me lately?? Like the last few years…
by Wes on Jul 25, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Do u eat out of the same hole? If Lesnar and Fedor fought 10 times, Fedor would win 7 times. And as for Carwin and Randy, neither fight would make it out of the 2nd round – Fedor by whatever he wants. Dana wants Fedor to fight for the title as his first fight as he very well knows that fighting in a cage will be a difficult experience (ala CC and other Pride fighters) for Fedor, and with Brock’s power Fedor will prolly lose. Even then, I see Fedor beating him but it wont be a walk in the park like most expect.
by jayshogun on Jul 25, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
uh they fight only once to get the championship,..Right?
by RoJ on Jul 25, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This has to happen now while fedor is still in his prime,another 2-3 years down the line will prove nothing.
by kieran on Jul 25, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
I would hope that Brock would win cause Fedor has really had his time… Fyodor is just so fast and explosive on the feet that Brock would have to take him down right away, and Fedor is pretty much the best HW on the ground, he inflicts damage and submits guys..
by RoB on Jul 25, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
take down fedor is not that easy unless you are hong man choi..
by shamo84 on Jul 25, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
or mark hunt, or randleman, or coleman, or arona, or babalu … and brock is just as good as randleman and coleman at taking guys down
by Jared on Jul 25, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats probly becouse he has won the sombo world championship for the past 13 years, he is a killer on the ground .
by CUJO on Jul 25, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor didn’t win in 2008. http://www.thejiujitsufighter.com/2008/11/fedors-sambo-loss.html
by Fred on Jul 25, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Can’t see Fedor ever signing with the UFC i’m afraid! Think he’s content with keeping his legend intact by fighting freakshows in Japan for the rest of his life. Hope I’m wrong!!
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah baby. I hope Dana carries this tune for a while. Nobody is interested in anything but
Fedor vs Brock or even Couture these days.
Maybe the UFC can co-op with M1/Team Fedor and meet in the middle. Dana wants a three fight deal likely with a clause keeping the Champ in the UFC should Fedor win. Fedor wants to fight
once and be free from UFC brand obligations.
Now do this:
Two fight deal, Fedor wins he wins… he can leave as the HW champ and Last emperor should that be his choice. I think once he tastes the life as the UFCChamp (should he win) he doesn’t want to go anywhere anyway, barring some patriotic acts he likes. If he leaves… so what … he is cemented as the greatest of all time and the ufc can give him props and create another “interim” type title or something a better i’d hope. I don’t think a lot of us would argue that. Fedor is a legend already and if he cleans house in the UFC it’s cemented. Eventually the man will retire, its not as if he’s a rookie. At that point everything returns to the status quo – we all tell tall tales bada bing bada boom.
At this point I would accept almost anything to insure Fedors next two opponents are Randy and Brock. Including pre buying both ppv in advance.
Oh hell, maybe i’ll even take both Affliction PPV t-shirts in advance too.
by Big Zino on Jul 25, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions
i think randy would have something to say about this.is there something stipulated in his contract that he gets first shot at fedor or was it just a gentlemans agreement.anyone got any ideas?
by scott on Jul 25, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
You’re right. But when it comes down to dollars and sense I don’t think Dana will honor that. 2 or 3 years ago maybe but Randy lost to Lesnar. Now people want to see Lesnar vs Fedor. Money talks and b.s. walks.
by Wes on Jul 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
fedor would destroy lesnar and carwin…fedor is the man!!!
by nick on Jul 25, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
I would have to disagree with you on that one. Brock would come into the cage at 290-295, is a div. 1 all american wrestler and national champion, and moves like a freakin deer. I still would rather see him push the pace a lil and press Fedor into the cage. Never seen Fedor in a cage and don’t know how he would react or what his training would tell his mind to do. EXACTLY 2 WEEKS!!!
by charr552 on Jul 25, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
I think ALOT of people are forgetting about the accomplishment of Fedor!! People who say STUPID shit like Brock will beat him in the 1st round actually pisses me off. Dont get me wrong i guess i can see wut would possess someone 2say that cuz Brock is so big & strong, and he beat Randy and Mir….however this is fucking FEDOR we are talking about, the guy thats probably the smartest in-fighting mma athlete there is. HE ALWAYS finds a way 2win. I dont see how Brock would ever hold him down and lay into his face like he did Mir. If u actually think that then u gotta be high! Brock’s striking is so suspect that i dont see him survivng the hard strikes of Fedor. Fedor is 2good, 2experienced, 2smart, 2calm, 2sqirmy on the ground, not 2mention his crazy ground and pound!!
by Silva_Rampage on Jul 25, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
I’m with you Silva_Rampage. People are getting more stupid by the day with their comments. Hopefully UFC/Fedor get the deal done then Fedor can come in and shut all these idiots up
by rydinlow on Jul 25, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you both! I swear Brock brought all his WWE fantasy fans here!
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 25, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of you need to think before you type. Particularly Mr. Sharlow. Lesnar has a better athletic pedigree than 75% of the guys fighting in mma right now. He was an NCAA division I wrestling champion. As good as it gets at the amateur level next to the olympics. So don’t say he dosen’t have skill. Wrestling has been used by many present and past mma champs as a very effective base to compete in mma. Matt hughes made an hall of fame career by using wrestling; he couldn’t/can’t strike to save his life.
And don’t say Lesnar’s size is an unfair advantage. He makes the weight limit. Saying his size is unfair is like saying it was unfair that Mike Tyson hit harder than everyone else or that it was unfair that Sugar Ray Leonard had faster hands than everybody else. Those were their God given genetic gifts. Size is his. So he has a size advantage, of course he is going to use it. What he has accomplished in such a short time is actually quite impressive! So don’t criticize him for what he has accomplished just because you don’t like him as a person. Give him his due and just get over yourselves! I don’t care for him as aperson but he has the potential to be an all time great.
by Wes on Jul 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
ur right Charlie…he is bringing a ton…like wes? lol
by gaara on Jul 26, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he could hold him down… and yes I am high!
by ---Caesar--- on Jul 25, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
brock would kill this guy! who is he anyway? he should have to earn a shot at the title.
by jj on Jul 25, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
LOL, come on you are kidding right? I’m not the Fedor nuthugger most are, but to say he has to earn a title shot, yea just like Brock earned his after a few fights!
by sawyer on Jul 25, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
JJ, dude i dont believe in talking crap in a a post, but you are a moron. Does Fedor need to earn his shot the way Brock did? Which means not at all. I think you meant to type wwe.com. (And yes I know not all Brock fans are from the WWE but this guy is a D bag)
by Dave on Jul 25, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
‘Who is this guy’ he says! I don’t know the best p4p in the world in most opinions? Lmao! Who the F$%k is a Brock Lesnar after 5 mma fights? There should be like a noob boot camp blog to bring ‘you people’ up to speed.
by DSmith on Jul 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ur an idiot clown. Who are you anyway. A little kid that watches wwe and brock lesnar is your hero. Get outta here.
by jj who???? on Jul 25, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
i think fedors record speaks for itself..and brock got spoon fed right to the title fights..fedor deserves this more than the wrestling wrecking ball..i like seeing fighters with more rounded skills..yes..brock is a beast..but he is just not that well rounded and his antics are as cool as fedors sweaters..(meaning..they are NOT!!)
by sarah on Jul 25, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
spoon fed? how can you say spoon fed? he fought legit guys, mir hearing couture and mir again!! yeah he got caught the first time against mir but that won’t happen again against anyone!! As far as fedors record that’s funny really name 15 guys he has beat that are not losers!! and then tell me how he beat them
brock destroyed herring , beat him for 15 minutes, fedor didn’t do that
by TheDragon on Jul 25, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i say spoon fed because of the numbers..how many fights outta no where (or outta the wwe) till he got the title fight..
by sarah on Jul 25, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
and guys like a has been tim slyvia, hong man choi , matt lindland , and a has been AA aren’t spoon feeding??
by fedorsucks on Jul 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Sarah is right. If it weren’t for the fact that Brock could bring in ppv buys he’d be fighting the same guys Lashley is. And rightfully so.
by DSmith on Jul 25, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
hey i don’t make the fight match ups..i dunno if brock even has a neck to get a rear naked choke..who knows if his massive arms could be pulled into an arm bar..but his chicken legs were his weakness once..who knows…yes fedor wins most of his fights by sub..honestly there are other people i’d like to see him fight.
by sarah on Jul 25, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
he wasn’t deserving of fighting those guys he did, and since when did beating Heath Herring and losing to Frank Mir earn you a title shot? never!.. I can also promise you that if Randy a fellow wrestler giving up 50lbs to Brock wasn’t the champ they wouldn’t have had him fight for the title!.. It was a big payday for both but Dana and the guys knew that Randy wouldn’t outwrestle him and therefor be at a huge disadvantage
by RoB on Jul 25, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t the fact that he crushed all those dudes and unified the HW title prove that he was, in fact, worthy of a title shot?
by PW on Jul 25, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
did fedor beat mir , couture , and herring in his first 5 fights in mma ???? no that fact is he couldn’t beat mir or couture now let alone in his 4th and 5th mma fight!! get off fedor already he sucks
by fedorsucks on Jul 25, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Go do ur research if u dont know who he is. U cant watch his fights and who he has beat and say brock would kill him…c’mon this is mma & fedor is one of the proven greatest.
by Silva_Rampage on Jul 25, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you serious!Brock would kill Fedor?You need to go back and watch some more fantasy WWE!
by Charlie Sharlow on Jul 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHA, you do that… I’m awaiting Johns call for backup!
by RoB on Jul 25, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions
fedor would beat lesnar 1st round via arm bar…these stupid people who dont even know who fedor is are assuming that hes nothing…wait and see on what the ufc is waiting on….
by fedortheman on Jul 25, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
I just wanna see someone beat the hell outta brock, that guys a meathead douche. I just cant bring myself to like someone like him, I would love to see him take one of those GSP/Fitch style 5 round beatings.
by f*ck it on Jul 25, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
So whats you regular screen name then? Are you scared of him!!
by MoonUk on Jul 25, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
By not revealing his real screen name he can introduce himself to John and then sucker punch him in the face later lol…Or maybe hit him in the back of the head after the event and do a hit and run job.
Who uses so many exclamation marks on here?
Another fight added to the card. Excellent. Be sure to get it on camera Mania. I reckon John’s going to win. The betting line opens with John installed as the favourite at -175 and Mr. Anonymous at +125.
Who have you got Maniacs?
by RobH86 on Jul 25, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Barring a sucker punch, I have John choking this guy out while getting a lap dance at the titty bar, which impresses the dancer so much that she takes John to the VIP lounge.
by PW on Jul 25, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the guy should have a more mysterious screen name like “secret squirrel.” Then, I think he should strike up a normal conversation with John only to reveal at an unexpected moment that he is, in fact, secret squirrel….followed by a quick sucker kick to the face and a rapid departure from the area…..maybe even a smoke bomb.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 25, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
So it’s official. The John vs. Secret Squirrel openweight bout has been confirmed for 101.
by RobH86 on Jul 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
PW is the only REALISTIC one on this site! lol
He can have his sucker punch and I still like my odds. Submission of the night is going to me! Tell Dana to have my check ready! ANACONDA CHOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Jizz dollar on Jul 25, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t Mir a submission specialist.Well,Brock has trained and learned a hell of alot since his 1st fight against Mir so his sub defence is very high now,and will be a hell of a lot better in months to come.So I don’t think Fedor will sub him as easily as some predict for that reason.Brock also has tremendous take-down defence,has not been takin down in any of his fights,so Fedors sub chances I believe will be minimise again.In sayin all that,almost half his matches were won via his legendary subs,armbar and kimuras especially.So Brock uses his size as what I guess would be his most obvious advantage,then he can control the wrestling aspect of the fight,control the ground game,and implement his ground and pound.As for the stand-up surely Fedor wins this hands-down (or should that be hands-up:p).However we still have yet to see Brock lose a stand up and therefore you cannot really say if he can take a full on punch.Althought,with the size of his neck,I’m sure he can.In sayin that Randy had him dazed,and Mir had him dizzy with a good knee shot.All in all,it makes for a great fight.
Brock by grounding and pounding?
Will Brock succumb to a fast and furious flurry of Fedors fists and lose by tko?
Doctor stoppage?
Would Fedor be able to withstand a hammock of a punch like the one against Herring?
Does Brock dominate yet end up tapping out again?
Will either get a K.O.?
Surely over 3 rounds Fedor has the advantage,Fedor by decision?
Brock by (Dana’s)decision?
So many questions,so many possibilities,so many opinions,ony one way to find out the answers,only one way to find out who is right.Only one way to find out who really is the best.
DANA MAKE THIS HAPPEN!
by shmuck on Jul 25, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor-Lesnar would be the biggest fight in MMA history and I would love it to happen, however I’m not getting my hopes up until Fedor signs. After the Affliction mess and finding out about it late, Fedor will be more keen than ever before on signing for a stable and competent organisation with top competition and right now that is the UFC. An immediate title fight with Lesnar would make both men as well as Zuffa a lot of money so as a Fedor fan I have faith that he will make the right decision.
As for predictions, this is a tough one to call. On paper you’d think that Fedor would kill Brock from their respective records as he has already fought and beat the best, most of whom are much bigger than him anyway but Brock has looked scary good in his 5 fights, even when he lost to Mir. Standing Lesnar has the power while Fedor has the technique, Brock has an unproven chin whilst Fedor’s is as good as you can get. Both guys are excellent at getting the fight to the ground, Brock’s the best wrestler in MMA (if you combine technique, speed and strength) whilst Fedor’s sambo could easily get this to the ground. On the ground Fedor’s submissions are a lot better but Brock proved in his last fight that he can keep a BJJ fighter on the ground and pound them out without threat of a submission. In the end I think Fedor will catch Brock with a submission but Lesnar will impress fans with his performance.
by David W-S on Jul 25, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor’s chin as “good as it gets”??? Did you see the Iron Head Fujita fight? Fedor was still on rubber legs when he was lifting the oversized novelty winners cheque, and Fujita’s hardly renowned for being a big puncher!!
by attakdog on Jul 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and he was doing the Texas 2 step after Arlovski landed hit him. I’ve seen him rocked a couple times by dudes who didn’t hit nearly as hard as Lesnar.
by Wes on Jul 25, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Randy will definately beat Fedor. If Fedor signs with the UFC that will be the end of his legacy. He will also lose to Brock and Carwin. Trust me. Fedor is not as great as you all make him seem to be! I can’t wait to see him get smashed.
by TOMMY-OUZO on Jul 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor by ko 13 sec first round. F##k Lesner, i will never respect that freak show!!
by thebending on Jul 25, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
You better get the hell over it, or you’re going to be mighty disappointed for a long time. Nobody is taking that belt from him.
by PW on Jul 25, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yah, nobody…but wait for batista…u sound like what u are..and i really don’t blame you for that…but maybe try and wait a little more and we will see what your chump is made of…like sarah said..shed the fake!
by gaara on Jul 26, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Im getting sick of people saying Brock Lesnar is not a mixed martial artist just cause he was in the WWE. Brock has real wrestling credentials greater then the likes of most top wrestling mma fighters in the game, including wrestling mma legends Matt Hughes, Tito Ortiz, Randy Couture, even the two new top HW contenders Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez. And if I am not mistaken Brock beat Herring, Mir, and Couture standing… he cant help that he was blessed with superior size and strength so dont pick on him for it. If you compare him with Fedor’s MMA skills then of course he comes up on the short end of the stick I mean name a fighter who wouldnt.
by affliction RIP on Jul 25, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
yes he has a real wrestling back round and some fake wrestling back round..he has an amazing crazy base in training to be the freak show he is..and i still say he is in training to be a “true” mma..he is a beast and a force to be reckoned with..but give him more time and he will shed the fake..
by sarah on Jul 25, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Also for those who make fun of Brock Lesnar’s WWE days just look at other former WWE/fake wrester fighters who also participated in MMA. They include Ken Shamrock(UFC HOF), Dan Severn(UFC HOF), Don Frye, Kazushi Sakuraba, and Kazuyuki Fujita just to name a few.
by affliction RIP on Jul 25, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
Also, Bobby Lashley. But, I don’t think it’s the fact that he came from the WWE that bothers people so much as the fact that he was so inexperienced when given the chance to fight for the title. And he presents himself like a mildly retarded meathead.
by Dayman Fan on Jul 25, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
u named a bunch of clowns there buddy…and by the way UFC HOf means nothing..
by gaara on Jul 26, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, what a crazy debate this has stirred up. So many here raise very valid points. What establishes a fighter’s legitimacy? is it fighting only for the UFC?
Is it winning many different styles of mixed martial arts competitions?
Why does a guy like Lesnar anger everybody in the MMA community? well, I think the fact is, it’s because he has
re-defined the basic and fundamental philosophy fighting, mainly countering Brazilian Jui Jitsu.
Can a smaller man really overpower and defeat a much larger and stronger adversary?
There’s no bigger Brock Lesnar hater out there than myself. But, I have to ask myself everytime I see this bohemoth of a man fight and destroy. What’s going to happen when he actually becomes a Grappling/Jui Jitsu specialist?
Does everyone right now expect him to win his next 10 fights by submission only?
My point is, give the guy a break and credit where credit is due. When I ask someone why they hate Lesnar (as a fighter, not a person), they usually can’t come up with any logical reasons. I’d love for people to go back to the days when Matt Hughes’ and Tito Ortiz knew nothing of striking or jui jitsu.
The fact is, people are scared of his potential and scared that a guy like that walks around who can embarrass you in front of your woman!!!
by Amir on Jul 25, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions
like i said before .fedor only fights. hasbeens.if he comes to the ufc.he will get beat.that why he doesn’t want to sign.to be the best, you got to beat the best.pride is no more!!!!
ufc nation
by jay/boy on Jul 25, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions
fedor sucks he could never ever beat brock ever!!!!!
by fedorsucks on Jul 25, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
I think a lot of people feel the same way. If you are serious though, you have mental problems. Who gets that riled up by some dude on a website? I think John could probably use this message as a way to charge you if you decided to do it. I think you are a child who wants attention-Mission Accomplished.
My personal opinion is choke the di ck out.
by jay on Jul 25, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
fedor can’t cut it in the ufc enough said, why you think he has been in the game so long and not signed with the big boys???
that’s be like micheal jordan not going to the nba to play at the local boys and girls club
by fedorsucks on Jul 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
Take a valium buddy. I’m curious as to how old you are and what exactly John has done to make you go off the deep end?
by chefdaddy on Jul 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions
I probably FOcked his girl! My bad dude, its the cost of PIMPING! lol
by Jizz dollar on Jul 25, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
if someone’s gonna take out brock i would like it to be noguira. i hope he taps out randy and redeems himself
by tapps on Jul 25, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
Are you serious brock lesnar will get destroyed by fedor hands down.There isnt a p4p fighter that compares to fedor.Brock needs to have 20 fights under his belt to even be ranked with fedor.All you wwe fans that are posting on here that brock is the best need to learn a little bit about mma first.I say if they cant sign fedor to the ufc they should sign his brother alexander,he would destroy brock just as easy….
by josh on Jul 25, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions
Omfg….fedor beat everyone back then in their prime!!! U lesnar nut huggers think he beat herring in his prime? Or couture in his? Come on….they are both on the bottom end of their careers!! Maybe mir in his prime but that douche bag sucks anyways!! AA was in top 10 n maybe top 5 b4 he got Knocked the fuck out!! If fedor fought couture n knocked his ass out u retards would probably say he’s not in his prime!!! How many years has fedor been in his prime? His whole fucking career!!! Reading some of the retarded lesnar nut huggers post pisses me off soooooo much!!! N for u idiots who think lesnar weight is his god given talent!!! What other weight class is there where u can be 206-265lbs none!!!! Ppl size different to brock is like gsp fight fedor…would u idiots say fedor has weight as his god given talent? NO that’s jus a huge weight differance!!
by Al on Jul 25, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
I dont think that everyone is saying Brock is the best and unbeatable, it is more less the frustration with Fedor. Fedor, a man who has been questioned in recent years over the talent he has faced, seems to always find an excuse whether valid or not to avoid competing in the biggest and best MMA promotion in the world. And to think Aleksander would easily destroy Brock Lesnar… maybe you need to learn more about MMA.
by affliction RIP on Jul 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
First off even though I hate Frank Mir he definitely does not suck, and actually Heath Herring was in his prime and in probably the best shape of his career, because he had just revamped his entire training camp and devoted himself to MMA in every which way before heading into the Kongo fight. Couture may not be in his “prime” but he is always dangerous and was coming off a big win over a young and upcoming Gabe Gonzaga before facing Lesnar. And Andrei Arlovski was dominating the entire fight with Fedor until he landed one lucky punch, granted victory is victory but its not like he did anything special at all in that fight. And nobody said the weight was quote, “A GOD GIVEN TALENT”, except for you. Its just something he is fortunate to have and he uses it to his advantage. I mean what else is he suppose to do, not utilize his size???
by affliction RIP on Jul 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
Heath Herring was in his prime when he fought fedor in pride, Heath herring was 4-4 during his last 8 fights before brock!! if thats prime, then ur a retard!!! he beat cheick congo because congo ground game sucks balls, and when does winning the first 3 minutes of a fight mean ur gonna win the next 22? Even Anderson Silva was losing to hendo in the first round of their fight, does that mean he was gonna lose the fight? NO!!!, i dunno where u idiots come up wif this shit!! and how was that a lucky punch? do u think fedor was swinging at his legs? “NO” he was going for the face and a knock out!!!! fedor is the best fighter in the world period!!! hes already paid his dues…champions pull out wins when they look like their gonna lose. Brock tap the very second mir got his hands on the ankle, n cried about how the ref didnt stop it right away, what a BITCH!!! Fedor has been slammed on his head where most ppl probably would’ve got their necks broken n still pulled out a sub a few seconds later. And read the posts…one of the guys on top said that brocks weight is his god given talent!!! not me im just re quoting him!! i never said AA would beat brock!! read idiot!!! UFC wasnt always the top of mma, back then pride was, n fedor competed in that, and was undefeated. He went to Affliction beacuse the gave him n M-1 the contract they wanted n paid him alot more. Im not saying brock is not a good fight, but for some of u morons to say he would beat Fedor is jus stupid!!! look at the top 10 HW ranking back then, in like 03-07 when fedor was beating them…and by the way its called MMA “NOT” UFC, u dont haveta be in the UFC to be the best!!! MMA was bigger around the world in like japan and brazil way before USA.
by AL on Jul 26, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor is number one right now, no doubt. But I love Brock too. I just love fighting cause there is always a chance of losing. No one is invincible, they all fall sometime. unless your Rocky Marciano. ha
by Sambo on Jul 28, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions
Hey AL you might also consider where people considered BROCK LESNAR as a mma fighter back then, and NOW.
Brock has gained LEAPS and BOUNDS between each fight, just like GSP, and if you can’t see that, it is YOU who are blind sir.
Fedors getting up there in age, ALSO and more importantly Fedor only fights like twice a year its recreational for him
Brock only does two things, he TRAINS and he HUNTS large game ;)
If Fedor fights Brock, I predict a round 1 stoppage.
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