UFC 107: Frank Mir in talks to face Cheick Kongo on Dec. 12
by Jesse Holland on Jul 24, 2009 12:59 PM EDT
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Eager to rebound from their recent losses, UFC heavyweights Frank Mir and Cheick Kongo are in talks to collide at UFC 107, tentatively scheduled for the FedEx Forum in Memphis, Tennessee on December 12.
While bout agreements have not been distributed, MMAmania.com has been able to confirm an earlier report by Sportsnet.ca that both sides have expressed interest in the potential showdown.
Mir is coming off a smothering and painful loss Brock Lesnar at UFC 100 on July 11 in the final round of the mini heavyweight tournament set up to declare an undisputed division champion.
Prior to that, Mir did what no man before him ever had, finishing the legendary Antonio Nogueira for the first time in his prestigious career with crisp stand up and not his bread and butter, the submission game.
Whether or not Mir keeps it standing against Kongo -- who has been susceptible to the takedown -- remains to be seen.
Like Mir, Kongo was on the wrong end of wrestler's bludgeoning when he got planished by Cain Velasquez at UFC 99 this past June. While the Parisian manged to drop the up-and-coming prospect with his heavy hands, Velasquez survived and utilized his ground and pound to grind out the lopsided decision.
Kongo went into UFC 99 winning five of six after dismantling Antoni Hardonk at UFC 97: "Redemption" back in April, stopping the Dutch kickboxer in the second round via technical knockout — the first TKO loss in Hardonk’s career.
A win over the crafty Mir would certainly get people talking about his place in this division.
UFC 107 is expected to be headlined by "Sugar" Rashad Evans vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, bitter rivals and opposing coaches on the tenth season of The Ultimate Fighter.
Stay tuned for more updates on this developing fight card.
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Hope Kongo can bounce back aftr his loss to Cain and destroy Mir.
If the fight stays on the feet Kongo can take him. If it goes to the ground Mir can win by submission.
by RiverHorror on Jul 24, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kongo will destroy Mir. If mir can take Kongo down, the fight will be over in seconds, but unless you are a strong wrestler, you arent going to get kongo down, which will force Mir to stand with Kongo, and get utterly destroyed!
by JOhn G on Jul 24, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed this one is going to look like the vera fight but i have a feeling it will be more brutal
by Jared on Jul 24, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solid fight. Will be interesting to see who they match up after
This fight
Couture – Nog
Carwin – Cain
Cro Cop – Dos Santos
What does everyone think the next match ups will be?
by WB on Jul 24, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best news of the f*king day…Mir will get smash again.Mir the irrelevant!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 24, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys taking into account that Kongo is retarded? I will bet on Mir in this one. I’m not a Mir nuthugger, but if there’s a top HW he can beat, it’s Kongo.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 24, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, yes Kongo is definatley a few fries short of a happy meal..
by O damn he got caught on Jul 24, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, Mir and Kongo are both guys who for a long time I have refused to put money on. It has been a wise policy.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 24, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
^^^EDIT: With the exception of Mir/Nog. I wish I’d bet on Mir that night, but nobody thought he could win and I didn’t know that Nog was on death’s door.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 24, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL,Punch,you sir are correct!He’s definitely a “2 watts”.It would be sage to only put the minimum wage on this fight!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 24, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minimum wage just went up 60 cents. Bet big!
by PW on Jul 24, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree John. Mir probably won’t be able to lock a sub in even if he does get him down. Still, Kongo has taught us to never be surprised when he loses.
This a solid main card fight. There will probably be a title on the line as well for this event. I expect this will be the card where Silva defends the MW title against Maia or Marquardt (or Belfort?).
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 24, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no i remember when C.Wellisch had Kongo in an armbar and Kongo showed great defense and rolled out of it..
by RoB on Jul 24, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, my post read ‘Mir probably won’t be able to lock a sub in even if he does get him down.’ What part of that were you disagreeing with?
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 24, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of it JJ, every word, every punctuation mark. All of it…
by O damn he got caught on Jul 24, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except I do agree with “Kongo has taught us to never be surprised when he loses.”
by O damn he got caught on Jul 24, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kongo does not deserve a fight with a guy who just held the interim belt.. why would he? he got destroyed by velasquez who honestly SHOULD HAVE lost that damn fight..
i see frank being over 245lbs for this fight and being about 265 cutting weight like brock he already said he intends on bulking up and teaching brock a lesson, kongo should be fighting like stefan struve or something STUPID because he fights like a world class DUMBASS
herring vs mir makes more sense to me
kongo vs a striker any striker
winner of those fights gets a shot at the loser of nog/randy
by randy murders on Jul 24, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Kongo fights have you guys been watching? More than likely, he’s going to rock Mir, then he’s going to clinch up with him and help Mir take him down..
by O damn he got caught on Jul 24, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, that will not be the case and even if it goes to the ground Mir won’t submit him!.. Kongo could even take him down and GnP him out alá Brock Lesnar..
It could also look very much like Vera vs Mir where he rocks him and Mir covers up til the ref jumps in to save his a$$!
by RoB on Jul 24, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Mir better than Kongo, I’m going for Frank in this one. Kongo has the athletic ability to finish any fighter and too often he’s gun shy in fights against other top level strikers. Then you have his poor gameplanning/lack of ability to carry out a gameplan or is lack of ability to adapt and adjust in the middle of a fight?? I don’t know, but the guy is dissapointing to watch a lot of times..
by O damn he got caught on Jul 24, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your right OD Kongo executed very poorly his game plans but don’t let Mur fool you with his supposedly “extraordinary” skills again buddy!Let’s hope that Kongo learn his lesson last time!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 24, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob, the size gap will not be there as it was in the lesnar fight. Lesnar is a lot bigger than Mir with great wrestling skills. Kongo is the same size or smaller than Mir (Sherdog has Kongo listed as 230 and Mir at 240) and has no wrestling skills compared to Lesnar. If Kongo does take Mir down it will be a big mistake. Frank will submit him.
by wAyNe on Jul 24, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alpha,
I gave up on kongo learning anything several fights ago. He doesn’t improve his weak points anywhere near what I’d expect from an amateur, much less a pro. Best predictor of future behavior is past behavior and Kongo has convinced me that he sucks on the ground.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 24, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL,sure punch but the same can be said about Mir.
Really often he’s forgetting his BJJ once he’s taking down by wrestlers.He had problems prior last fight with Chritison,Vera and Lesnard.For a guy who’s supposedly have good jits(we have no proof of it though… no BJJ title),this is amateurish too,you know?
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 24, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree that Mir sucks. I just think they both suck, but Kongo sucks in a particular way that can be exploited by sucky Frank Mir.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 24, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate both of these guys, either a brutal KO loss for Mir or limb snapping submission loss for Kongo, I’ll be happy with both. Maybe a double KO although that is wishful thinking. Neither of them will ever do anything in the HW division anyway, Cain, Carwin and Lesnar are all too good for these 2 clowns.
by David W-S on Jul 24, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont agree i think mir will take this mark my words!!
by Nor Cal Mexican (formely Philicutioner) on Jul 24, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir by Sub! Write it down, and mark my words. Alert the media if you’d like :)!
by LJ on Jul 24, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Kongo he dont have a shot…you must not watch much ufc if you think its goin to be so easy…mir has worked on his stand up….an take downs arent all wrestling…dude he does jujitsu….its not nuttin close to wrestling…oh well i guess everyone has the right to there opinion…even idiots like you….Mir wins 2nd round submission
by Ghost on Oct 12, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Mir falls in love with his stand up it could be a long night. I see Mir by quick submission or Kongo by TKO.
by DB on Jul 24, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Garbage! It gets to the ground and Mir via a paper bag because as we all know, Kongo cannot out grapple a grocery store paper bag! On top of all that Cheick doesn’t have true one punch power! This fight does not interest me at ALL!!!! I like Kongo better than Mur but he really has no chance in this one unless for some kind of divine intervention where Kongo stays on his feet or Mur tries to boost his ego by showing he can out strike Congo (won’t happen).
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 24, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im from Memphis , and im decent friends with Rampage and his family. The first 2 fights that have been put together so far have been top notch.
Cant wait for this card , I figured Bisping or Kongo would be on it as well since they are both really good friends with Rampage.
I saw Mir at UFC 74 , hes always fun too watch.. Especially live.
by Dayzah on Jul 24, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you deliver a message to Quinton for me?…Tell him “You’re a focking retarded punk and I can’t wait for Rashad to knock your head clean off your shoulders…keep drinking that kool-aid Quinton”. Oh and also if your talking to his family send my condolences for what Rashad is going to do to him.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 24, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why dont you deliver your own message pus. big words from guys like you. E-Thugs…lol
by SluggerCitySoldier on Jul 24, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So are you a criminal just like Rampage then? Criminals hang with criminals.
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 24, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buster, how is Page a punk and Rashad is not just out of curiosity?
by WB on Jul 24, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the guy from Dancing With the Stars in Kongo’s corner?
by Nick on Jul 24, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i used to think kongo was a scary beast..but after that fight with cain..it’s almost like they are throwing mir a can..kongo had best be training his ass off for take down defense..cuz he had ZERO in his last fight..
if kongo can punch his lights out before he gets taken down, he will win..but mir will really want to prove himself..i by no means love mir..and i thought i like kongo till his last fight..i’ll be rooting for kongo..but i have a bad feeling mir could play the kongo bongo a little harder than cain did..
by sarah on Jul 24, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sarah i promise you that Kongo has this in the bag!..
by RoB on Jul 24, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I think you are wrong Rob. Besides, who makes promises in mma? Mir should and most likely will win this fight if it happens
by Dave on Jul 24, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i know i’m right!.. Kongo should and most likely will win!.. who says Mir is the favorite? media? cause of all the attention he got for fighting brock.. sorry, it’s over now!
by RoB on Jul 24, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Mir’s fight to lose. If you think that Kongo is the favorite you need to wear a helmet at all times.
by jay on Jul 24, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doubtful… he still doesn’t realize that striking is his greatest strength, and most the time in his big fights he’s initiating the clinch and trying to take down a superior grappler. Look at Heath Herring, and look at Cain Valasquez; Kongo WAS the reason he was on the ground half the time it went there in both fights. He initiates the clinch/TD against inferior strikers who can’t throw hands with him, and opts to try and play it safe against other top level strikers that could potentially damage him by being gun shy and elusive. I can’t stand him, he plays it way to safe in his fights and needs to learn to take a few chances. Smart chances, not chances on grappling with a superior wrestler/jits guy.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 24, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don’t think Congo wins this. Mir’s stand up is much much much much much closer to Kongo’s than Korngrow’s grappling is to Mir’s. Again, Mir via Paperbag
WAR BAG!!!!!!
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 24, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL love the Kongo bongo Sarah.From now on “Kongo Bongo” is Sarah®.
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 24, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if cheick can act first we may not have to use it for this fight against mir..otherwise…..
by sarah on Jul 24, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sarah if mir wins i will bang you, but if kongo wins i get to bag you.
by shogun on Jul 24, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, dude has a real way with the ladies.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 24, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t try to get in on that bet ojr, its for the ladies only.
by roy on Jul 24, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, ojr can get in on it.but the rules stay the same.
by shogun on Jul 24, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If roy and shogun combine their efforts, they might be enough to make up one man.
;)
by OJR on Jul 24, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you saying you want us to tag team you? i am not into guys but ask around i am sure you will find someone to fullfill your fantasy.
by roy on Jul 24, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OJ did you saw what I posted for ya in the GSP thread?
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 24, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just bustin’ balls.
Have good weekend!
:)
by OJR on Jul 24, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well it will be hard too, after all the horrible news this week. but i will try thanks.
by roy on Jul 24, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am expecting Kongo to knock Mir the fuck out.
After that the winner of this fight vs the winner of Gonzaga/Tuchscherer. Then the winner of that gets a title shot because by then they will have run out of opponents for Brock.
by CasualFan67 on Jul 24, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tuchscherer is Brocks teammate so its an interesting storyline, but he is approximatly EIGHT fights away from a title shot, i dont think he is in gonzagas league yet either
by Dave on Jul 24, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not expecting Tuchscherer to win though in case he does, they way brock acts, I don’t think he will have problems fighting a team mate.
I think if any of the other 3 have 2 good fights then UFC will throw them at Lesnar. If the Mir/Kongo fight is in Dec then their follow up fight would be around April/May and then next possible match in August/September.
I think UFC have already said that Carwin/Cain gets the next shot, maybe in the 2nd Jan supercard.
Then I expect Around April time winner of GG/crocop, vs Nog/Randy (if they don’t give the winner of that fight a straight shot).
I think UFC have show with Carwin/Cain that they are willing to throw people who still need development into title fights to early.
I also expect to see Jon Jones fighting Machida by the end of next year as well.
by CasualFan67 on Jul 24, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think they have committed to Carwin/Cain as a #1 contender match because I think if Couture beats Nog, from a business point of view, it would be the smartest thing out there to have Couture fight Lesner since it will be the last fight on his contract.
by WB on Jul 24, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. First of all, Dana doesn’t want to risk Couture beating Fedor and leaving to fight elsewhere as the UFC HW champ – possibly against Fedor. Even if he retired after it would hurt the UFC marketing their HW division. Couture is a big draw, but it probably isn’t worth it from a risk/reward point of view.
Secondly, I don’t know how marketable Couture/Lesnar 2 would be. We just saw it last year and Methuselah is even oldwr while Brock keeps improving. Couture is nabig draw, but it pr
If Fedor joins the UFC I think that will be Randy’s last fight. Otherwise, who knows. Maybe Cro-Cop.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 24, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Carwin beats Cain then he is guaranteed the next shot. The guy is smart, by calling out Lesnar and playing up to the fans he has set up the perfect good guy v bad guy fight that casual fans eat up, whilst the purists will want to see Lesnar get beat and Carwin is the biggest threat to Lesnar’s title (unless Fedor signs). All Carwin has to do is win and he has put himself in a huge position.
However Cain hasn’t said a word which is a mistake when you have two big names facing each other, both of whom are popular fighters, because even with a win over Carwin he could be overshadowed by Couture and Nog as a Lesnar fight with either of them would be more marketable. Cain is a great fighter and I honestly don’t know who will win between him and Carwin but he has no clue about promoting a fight so I wouldn’t be suprised if he misses out on a title fight if he wins, especially if Randy-Nog ends in dramatic fashion and the winner calls out Lesnar for his behaviour.
by David W-S on Jul 24, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im surprised at the date of this card, usually theres just 1 PPV in December between xmas and new years. Will there be 2 ppvs in December?
by AJ on Jul 24, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering the same thing!
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 24, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is one PPV in december, but it’s not the big year-end shindig. That is happening Jan 2nd.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 24, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Superbowl Weekend is another huge Mega-Card.
by WB on Jul 24, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. For some reason I think that will be Lesnar’s next title defence.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 24, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think TUF10 final is at the beginning of Dec.
by CasualFan67 on Jul 24, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
two of my fav fighters especially kongo!!
Prob the best heavyweight striker against the best heavyweight bjj guy. i take kongo though, he almost certainly has to know that he must do more than a full camp on wrestling, and if he does achieve this then its a long night for mir.
I still think Kongo is as dangerous a heavyweight that there is?…….he just has to get that wrestling sorted!!
by mo on Jul 24, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha, I called this fight straight after 100. Ta da!
by UK_Chris on Jul 24, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty decent match up if frank can take him down he wins if kongo stays standing then its all good for him…
by sokhl on Jul 24, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
KONGO took the Cain fight at short notice and didnt have a full camp for his fight in 2 weeks noptice…Thats Balls and the fact hios TD was weak is due to a knee injury just b4 the fight which is the main body part u need to stop TD !!!
KONGO IS THE MOST DEVASTATING HEAVYWEIGHT FOR FINISHES PEOPLE… HE DOESNT LAY AND PRAY HE DESTROYS U!!!
by KINGO-O on Jul 25, 2009 7:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mir has all the tools to take this fight. His stand up is ever improving and his ground game will always be on point. his willingness to become better and be the champ again is what will carry him back to a title shot.
by joe joe on Aug 16, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kongo lost to Cain lol look say what you want about the vera fight….lets see one of you get hit by a car an walk agin let alone fight…..the man is a warrior….Oh an mirs stand up has improved.we all seen it antonio how much better it got…so say whatever you want Kongo will lose an when he does im comin back to rub all you retards nose in the shit you tried to talk…..Mir is to much for that worthless Dutch
by Ghost on Oct 12, 2009 7:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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