Rich Franklin vs Dan Henderson 2 will headline UFC 103 on Sept. 19
by Jesse Holland on Jul 20, 2009 6:14 PM EDT
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Former champions Rich Franklin (25-4) and Dan Henderson (25-7) will collide for the second time this year in the UFC 103 main event from the American Airlines Center in Dallas, Texas, on Sept. 19.
The promotion made the surprise announcement earlier today; however, the weight limit for the rematch is unclear at this time. The pair first battled to a somewhat controversial split decision at UFC 93: "Franklin vs. Henderson" with "Dangerous" earning the nod from the judges after three rounds of action.
Perhaps the UFC felt as if there was some unfinished business. Or, it just needed a compelling main event to anchor its upcoming trip back to the "Lonestar State." Regardless, it's certainly odd timing with Henderson in the hunt for another middleweight title shot and "Ace" out to establish himself among the best in the 205-pound class.
Henderson most recently put his stamp on Michael Bisping at UFC 100, knocking out the British posterboy with a crushing right hand that had "The Count" down and out. It was a highlight reel finish that will more than likely go down as one of the best ever inside the Octagon.
The former Olympic wrestler earned a showdown with Bisping after defeating Franklin to earn a spot as coach on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 9 mixed martial arts reality series. It marked his third consecutive win after returning to the promotion with back-to-back losses.
And the highlight reel fashion on which he did it had most under the impression that he was on the short list to rematch 185-pound deity Anderson Silva ... certainly not Franklin.
For his part, Franklin scored a big win over the always dangerous Wanderlei Silva at UFC 99: "The Comeback" via unanimous decision back in June at a catchweight of 195 pounds. It was the third win in the last four attempts for the Cincinnati, Ohio, native, solidifying his position as a serious, and capable, light heavyweight contender.
Once again, this is a curious booking with both fighters seemingly headed in the same direction albeit in different weight classes. Someone will get derailed on fight night ... dare to venture who?
Also confirmed for UFC 103 today is the heavyweight tilt between former Pride FC superstar Mirko Cro Cop and surging heavyweight prospect Junior Dos Santos. In addition, Martin Kampmann and Mike Swick will collide to determine the number one contender for Georges St. Pierre’s 170-pound title.
For the latest UFC 103 fight card click here.
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Dan Henderson and Rich Franklin are two guys I don’t want to see together again. You know who I would like to see together again? Ozone and Turbo! Let’s kick it!
(Robotic voice) SIBERIAN NIGHTS!
by Jesse Holland on Jul 20, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
LMAO…awesome Jesse!Didn’t remember these clown!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys, I just read on Yahoo that they will also rematch Tim Sylvia and Andre Arlovski, with Anderson Silva and Thailes Leites on the same night!
Be ready for some fireworks!!!!
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 21, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
OMG!!!! Bisping and Leben II is on the card also!
UFC 100 will seem like an Affliction card after 103.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 21, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
This is serious Bullsh*t. Who the hell wants to see these two fight again? Maybe in 2 years time or something but not now.
If Rich should rematch anyone it should be Wandy. Dan is on his way to a title shot and holding him back with a pointless rematch that does nothing for either fighter is stupid.
by Ca$z on Jul 21, 2009 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Way to screw Dan over! Breathtakingly pointless fight for both. Their first one was hardly an instant classic that fans have been clammering for a rematch for, maybe 18 months/two years down the line, but not now!
Just lazy, lazy matchmaking. These two are both quite popular, f@ck it lets stick em together again, we can get away with that. The UFC dont want Hendo fighting Silva again, too much of a hard sell and they haven’t got a clue what to do with Franklin. Is he a 185er, a 195er, a 205er? Terrible matchup!
by attakdog on Jul 21, 2009 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Following Hendo’s most devestating UFC win he gets shafted. First his “range rover” of a gift breaks down 1 hour into driving it, and now THIS?
If Hendo won by decision against Bisping, this fight wouldn’t piss me off quite as much. But he DEMOLISHED Bisping to the point that he’ll likely never be the same.
Hendo went 5 rounds with Rampage in a VERY close fight
He is the ONLY fighter to win a round against Anderson Silva.
He won a convincing decision against a BJJ ace
He snuck by Franklin in a decision
And he KO’d Bisping into the next millenium.
What should that equal? Title Shot.
Maia against Silva would be just like Leites/Silva.
Marquardt vs Silva was such a mismatch is was laughable. Dan actually won a round against Anderson.
I know it sounds F’d up, but I hope Rich gets injured in training very soon. Imagine Hendo vs Tito…
by ViolentMike on Jul 21, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I would rather if they broke these two up to fight seperate fighters. These two have so many possibilities why not let them both get away with their first fight. It was a win win fight, because tho Hendo won the decision I felt Franklin actually won because he was more the aggressor. So really its like nobody lost the fight and both got to show why they are so hard to finish… unless it comes to Anderson Silva.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Jul 21, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
There is a reason Bisping/Hendo was never hyped by the UFC as a #1 contender match. They had no intention of giving Hendo another crack at Anderson’s strap. Bisping was their cash cow and their new contender, and now that he’s on ice, they will find a new contender elsewhere.
The guys they would love to put in there with Anderson are Belfort and Wanderlei. You can see they’ve already laid some groundwork for hyping those potential match-ups. But Maia would do in a pinch as well.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 21, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If Ozone and Turbo are on the same night I can’t lie, I’m watching them over Hendo and Franklin.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 21, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
so stuuupid..way to waste a fight card on something that just happened.
whats the justification that henderson wins 2 in a row…one of which to Franklin…only to fight him again when he deserves a title shot? Wheres the motivation?
this is gay.
I WOULDVE LOVED TO SEE TITO FRANKLIN. that wouldve been sick.
retarded
by RANO on Jul 20, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not even sure what they can do to hype the fight and really get people excited. Dallas is getting shafted here.
by DSmith on Jul 20, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Fight Announcement
Steve Cantwell vs Brian Stann 3
I like Cantwell in the rubber match. He’s the more well rounded fighter and has improved greatly since their first fight.
by DB on Jul 21, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see Stann win, but he would need to be much better than he was in his last 2 fights.
As for this card, I can’t imagine this doing well on ppv. They should make a deal with Spike.
by naturalshadow on Jul 21, 2009 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Always thought that Breakin 2 was a let down though
by lukeinShanghai on Jul 21, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
“Aint No Stoppin’ Us….”
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Jul 21, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
You would think that Dana would want to bring back Tito for this fight against Franklin being as they are going head to head with Mayweather that night. I guess it is more complicated than you would think though. Maybe they even tried to make something like that happen or maybe they are planning on making another exciting fight. Regardless, I will be watching this UFC over mayweather. Cro Cop vs Dos Santos has knock out written all over it ;)
Maybe the UFC wanted to have a big star fighting Franklin. Think about it. Hendo just had that huge knockout and he probably got the most coverage out of UFC 100 next to Lesnar of course. Combine that with the fact that it is a good rematch and you have a good fight. This is in comparison to the other options. Other than Ortiz, the other options just weren’t big enough names.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 21, 2009 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Would much rather see Crazy legs and Ken SWift (Rock STeady) Then Ozone and Turbo….
by Da Monkey on Jul 21, 2009 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions
thats not there names, turbo was bugaloo shrimp.
by shogun on Jul 21, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Drop the elbow on him Dan
WAR HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!!!
by warhollywood on Jul 20, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
hey guys, just had 1 guy cancel on 101, he got in a car accident today and can no longer buy the ticket. If interested in watching the action from a luxury suite with food/beverage included, let me know! I have a total of 2 spots available.
kevjack115@yahoo.com
I’m headed to work in an hour, but I’ll hit you up first thing tomorrow morning!
by kevin on Jul 20, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Why the hell do they need to have a rematch at this point? There are some good match ups on the main and under cards but this fight bores me to tears.
by DSmith on Jul 20, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with u Smith, i thought the plan was to give hendo another title shot with Anderson.
by BMO on Jul 20, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That was never part of the UFC’s plans. Their plans involved Bisping getting a shot if he beat Dan, because they could sell the shit out of that fight in the UK.
Their other plans probably include Maia, if he can get through Nate, or even Wanderlei or Belfort. They don’t want to put the same guys in there with Anderson when there are a lot of other good fighters at 185 now.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I was really looking forward to seeing Henderson vs A. Silva 2. I think Dan Henderson is the man to beat Silva and it would have been a hell of a fight. This fight doesnt get me excited at all. It is too soon for a rematch .. especially when there are so many other options for Franklin out there .. like Luiz Cane for example.
by boz on Jul 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree JJ,Nate was before Dan(in the division standing)when he ask for Maia!And the UFC probably want to set up the Belfort/Silva fight right after the spider vs.(Nate/Maia winner) fight.
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS MATCH UP IS STOOOPID!!! what is rich going to do to dan that he couldnt do last time? im betting every penny on dan winning by decision/knockout
by brendan on Jul 20, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know Mac…especially a fight at 205!That doesn’t make any senses!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Good thing coz he would have been forced to fight my boy Maia next and he would have gotten subbed hard. And that some truth right there!
Seriously though this matchup is retarded but if hendo fights with decent aggression in the clinch and takedown/gnp, he won’t horribly get outclassed on the feet like in their last fight. (Interesting note for those who haven’t seen, Fightmetric had it for Hendo but with the 10 point must, it was a draw- it’s all in the details)
by NameNotRequired on Jul 20, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
103 looks pretty good actually but could be better with a real main
Main event:
Rich Franklin (25-4) vs. Dan Henderson (25-7)
Main card (Televised):
265 lbs.: Junior "Cigano" Dos Santos (8-1) vs. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic (25-6-2)
170 lbs.: Martin "Hitman" Kampmann (15-2) vs. Mike "Quick" Swick (15-2)
170 lbs.: Josh "Kos" Koscheck (12-4) vs. Frank "Twinkle Toes" Trigg (19-6)
155 lbs.: Efrain "Hecho en Mexico" Escudero (11-0) vs. Cole "Magrino" Miller (15-3)
Under card (May not be broadcast):
155 lbs.: Sean Sherk (33-4-1) vs. Gleison Tibau (17-7)*
155 lbs.: Hermes Franca (19-7) vs. Tyson Griffin (13-2)
185 lbs.: Tomasz "The Gorilla" Drwal (16-2-1) vs. Drew "The Massacre" McFedries (8-5)*
155 lbs.: Rafael dos Anjos (11-4) vs. "Handsome" Matt Wiman (10-5)*
185 lbs.: Aaron "A-Train" Simpson (5-0) vs. Ed "Short Fuse" Herman (15-7)*
205 lbs.: Steve "The Hooligan" Steinbeiss (4-2) vs. TBA (0-0)*
by McArthur on Jul 20, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats bullshit! Dana said Dan would get another shot at Silva Instead he has to fight someone he already beat.
by belfort_fan on Jul 20, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
who will "The Hooligan" fight…only time will tell :cool:
by McArthur on Jul 20, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
lol,“the hooligan” got a name that sounds like an imported beer!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
ive got a question… what do they do if/when henderson wins again? send him back to 185 for a title shot? that makes zero sense…
by brendan on Jul 20, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If Hendo is going to fight at 205lbs it should be with soneone other than Franklin. D. White seems to be sticking it to Hendo for some reason. However, maybe Hendo likes the idea of fighting Franklin, if Silva is unavailable?
by DAVE A on Jul 20, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
BULLSHIT!!! Dan deserves a title shot at MW, WTF is he doing fighting Rich at ANY weight??? The only good thing about this fight is that Dan has the opportunity to silence all the haters from the first fight. Other than that, complete garbage, props to Hendo for taking the fight but he got screwed in the match making this time around.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 20, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don’t understand this unless either Joe Silva or Dana White really honestly feels that Franklin won the first fight; and I definatley DO NOT!! Dan got all the TD’s, controlled the ground game, and the striking was damn near even. This is complete crap. I’m sorry Hendo, it’s too bad you gettin the shaft lately.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 20, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a crappy Irish bar in Arlington called Hooligan’s. Of course it’s “Irish” in the same way that Marcus Davis is “Irish.”
by PW on Jul 20, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG I said before their first fight that I was bored to death with the matchup because I knew it would likely be a stalemate decision that could go either way, and the only way i’m going to be happy about it is if someone gets knocked out. And I went on to say That Rich Franklin in general bores me unless he is on the losing side of a ko. Then I get mma true believers (you know who you are) that get all bent out of shape at me for saying just that. On a side note Rich went on to lose by decision only to rebound with another boring decision win over W. Silva. Heres to another boring decision match involving Rich Franklin, that is unless dan’s momentum can drive him to another KO, in which case my complaints and grievances would be for nothing because I would get the one outcome of any “Ace” fight that is entertaining to me.
by JRE on Jul 20, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, same call here o’damn…Bullsh Bullsh
Bullsh!t[crowd chant]
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jul 20, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody said that Hendo don’t deserved his title shot OD!The thing is that other fighters was before him for a shot at the title.I’m sure Dan will get his chance later if he keeps winning!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Rich completely had Dan’s number standing up, and this time there hopefully won’t be any eye-pokes. Franklin keeps it standing and picks him apart for the UD.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ll see “mon ami” we’ll see!
Dan already know how to beat Rich.He won’t do a stupidity like to keep standing with Ace!Clinch & GnP buddy!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
So since Luiz “Banana” Cane is free, who do you guys think he should fight next?
by Kobajack on Jul 21, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
alpha, that makes no sense. if there are other people ahead how come bisping was gonna get a shot if he beat dan? why is silva fighting in a different weight class if there are other contenders ahead of dan? plain and simple he got screwed. he screwed up dana’s big plans for his england card, and now dana is screwing him. i wish hendo would hit dana like he did bisping, then we could all thank him again for shutting up another douchebag loudmouth.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 21, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Availabilities…Bonnar,Jones,Liddell,Alexander, Hamill,Coleman ,O’Brien!What you think?
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 21, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Bonnar would be good but then he’d lose three in a row so it wouldn’t be too good. Hmm . . .
Yeah, Cane/Alexander would be good. Too bad, Cane/Franklin would have been better.
by Kobajack on Jul 21, 2009 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions
This really dissapoints me. Lotta good fights out there for these 2 guys (whom I both love) and I dont really see what the winner gains from this. I would have loved to see Cane/Franklin or even Tito/Franklin.
However this keeps my master plan intact.
Silva – GSP superfight at Superbowl weekend 2010!!!!
Than Silva moves up to 205 for good, Hendo-Maia/Nate winner fight for now free title. Personally I love Kampmann but I have no desire to see the winner of him vs Swick fight GSP.
by WB on Jul 21, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno why but it seems like the ufc is trying to screw dan
by JG on Jul 20, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. Dan should be next in line for Silva. However, he has said he doesn’t like cutting the weight. So, maybe he wanted to fight at 205.
by Mahde on Jul 20, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This fight doesn’t make any sense. Dan wants to fight Anderson and he gets Franklin? Dan should fight the winner of Marquart and Maia after Franklin.
by Bluepit on Jul 20, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he stated unless he gets Silva next he would like to fight at 205. I guess they weren’t willing to give him an immediate title shot so he’s going to 205. I could see them doing it at 195 or 185 though to change it up from the last fight. I don’t think this fight makes a whole lot of sence, but it still should be a good fight, so I’m not complaining.
by DB on Jul 20, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You do have a good point when you say that it should be a good fight. I will definitely watch it. I was just hoping to see a Franklin/Ortiz fight. Not such an early rematch.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Franklin/Ortiz would have been frickin awesome indeed. But this fight is still good.
by Kobajack on Jul 21, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess this just leaves us with more room for speculation on Ortiz. I wonder if Ortiz used his making up with Dana as a way to get more from Strikeforce..It’s very possible. It’s not like it would effect Dana White all that much either. It would just mean that Strikeforce was putting out more money to get Tito.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 21, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
He should just hurry the fuck up and fight already. He hasn’t fought for over a year now. He should stop banging that overrated bitch of a wife (overrated in porn circles that is, she’s not my cup of tea that’s for sure) and start banging his fists. Hehe.
by Kobajack on Jul 21, 2009 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions
does hendo have wrist tatt’s or are they just dirrty lol
by JG on Jul 20, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
all i know is the last time the ufc had a card like this (ufc99) i regreted spanding money on it
by JG on Jul 20, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
horrible matchmaking, do they wanna ruin one of these guys careers or what… Franklin is also supposed to be a LHW now and Dan is about to get a title shot at 185..
I guess they couldn’t find two other decent names so they put together this fight again to milk some money
by RoB on Jul 20, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This is PATHETIC match making! Of courese I want to see a rematch, but not so soon, after the last meeting.
I do think Franklin was robbed, and I can see why he would take his rematch, but only way Hendo should take this fight is if he is guarneteed a title shot with a win.
by JOhn G on Jul 20, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but I think they will fight at 205!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If they were in desperate need of a main event and Hendo was willing to headline…then the UFC should have booked the rubber match: Hendo vs. Wanderlei 3!
by JOhn G on Jul 20, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Too much chance of Wanderlei losing his first scrap at 185, John. They’re looking to hand-pick Wand’s opponents and make a big-money “Silva-on-Silva crime” fight.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so sure Hendo,could beat this time the “new and improved” Wand’s JJ!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
off topic but did you guys catch the Dream fights…not bad…Jason High lost the final bout by KO to Zaromskis…without the post fight celebration, that KO was worse than what Hendo did to Bisping
by McArthur on Jul 20, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL,it was something,he got Bisping’d…too bad the referee did block the view on the last few punches while he was out!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I PVRed it and just watched it tonight…and the Dream thread is filled with Fedor huggers and haters…wtf! anybody else see Filho (back on the roids) get his head taken off then come back??? Galvao is on roids too imo..he’s HUGE!!! and Zaromskis is big as well and KOed Mach!! Who saw it?
by McArthur on Jul 20, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
the truth is that brazilians are known for steroids, those guys on the streets of rio and stuff are brutal…
by RoB on Jul 20, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize that Mach is a small WW but Galvao, and Zaromskies are both HUGE…maybe its not roids and I don’t like to speculate but their both on par with Rumble
by McArthur on Jul 20, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Mac I did saw it (this morning)!Filho was getting pound like a baby seal before he got Manhoef on his back and subbed him!
Galvao was big but not bigger than before!
RoB nice stereotype there!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you saw the ankle breaking in the Taylor’s fight?
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Aoki’s fight could have been better but good fights overall…“RoB nice stereotype there!”…haha nice burn j/k
by McArthur on Jul 20, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
JT Money!!! HAHA…he looked like the red-headed step-child over there…poor little guy…I laughed… :lol:
by McArthur on Jul 20, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t have said it if it wasn’t the truth…
I’m obviously not talking about ordinary brazilians…
by RoB on Jul 20, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Just wait…when a Brazilian read this!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Zaromskis obviously stole the show, but I would have to say that this was one of the weaker DREAM cards.
by ViolentMike on Jul 21, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems like the ufc is trying to screw the fans. They have more and more ppv every year. The majority of the ppv are getting weaker and weaker every year. There was a time when UFC ppv meant something. It was either title fights or number oner contender fights. This fight means absolutely nothing. Should cut ppvs back to about 9 or ten a year and and put everything else on fight night. Yeah they give us a lot of ppv but we are getting less for our money than we did 2 years ago. Hell some fighters on fight twice a year. Lighweight title has not been defended in almost 15 months.
by Lance2576 on Jul 20, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
the only way i’m not pissed about this is if they make this a 195 match and miraculously announce that they’re instituting a new weight class and make this a vacancy title fight
by sanshouer on Jul 20, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw Dan???? Weren’t his first 2 fights back in the UFC both title fights?
by JSP on Jul 20, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
well Dan had both Pride titles so that makes sense!
by DAVE A on Jul 20, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
dan was holding titles from pride in mw and lhw when the ufc bought pride. ot was an effort to unify the titles.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jul 21, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw the UFC! This is recycled garbage!
by Syd[a.k.a."The Negation"] on Jul 20, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t count on Dan winning in the stand up. Rich pretty much dominated the stand up last time IMO. The only time that Dan looked good in the stand up against Rich was in the beginning when he hit Rich with the solid right. Rich landed more shots and the kicks were the big factor against Dan. Dan had better prepare for those kicks and Rich should prepare for defending off of his back and standing up the fight. I am going to lean towards Rich winning this fight. I really don’t want to see these two fight again.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Franklin won the “fight” Dan won the decision..
Franklin definitely had Hendo more hurt and tired than himself and landed more cleaner shots..
takedowns are overscored
by RoB on Jul 20, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is the picture up there photoshopped? It’s not like there isn’t any pictures of their weigh ins or fight or anything…just saying.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how the article says Henderson “earned” a showdown with Bisping. Shouldn’t that be the other way around.
by chefdaddy on Jul 20, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
HOLLYWOOD got screwed, he’s next fight should be for the title. Dont reslly want to see the Fanklin rematch
by TaPouT on Jul 20, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah horrible on joe silvas part there are better match ups for these two! dans wrestling is too good for franklin to overcome! at least assuming dan wins again he will have a guarteed title shot.
by Colin D on Jul 20, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Frank won the first one, but it was definitely close so I don’t think Hendo’s wrestling is too good.
Anyway, I wonder if this will be at 195 lbs again
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 20, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I felt that Hendo won but you are right when you say it was really close. Rich definitely had the better striking and his kicks were picking Hendo apart. Those take downs made the difference for Hendo.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i totally agree, i know the first one was close but this is way to soon and there are so many other people for them to fight, just a waste of time at this point and as a headliner not the best.
by roy on Jul 20, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
NO!!!!! Hendo needs to fight the Spider or at least the winner of Maia/Marquardt. . This is the first time in a while I’ve been disappointed in Joe Silva.
by haglnuts on Jul 20, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you should be mad at dana white not the matchmaker. Who do you think has the final say???
by iamdanawhite on Jul 20, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
actually both fighters agreed to it…so be mad at Frankilin and Dan, we all now from previous times, Vera and Wandy both turning down fights to fight Andreson, so fighters do have the power so say no…um I would have liked to see Franklin vs Cain, and if you guys want Dan vs the winner of Nate vs Maia or Andrson then he wouldn’t be fighting until November……Not the best but it’s still a good fight and I will be watching.
by Robert(1) on Jul 20, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Cant be mad at the fighters. They need a paycheck
by Lance2576 on Jul 20, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah Dana has the final say, so to blame the fighters that are paid to fight or the matchmaker is stupid… If anything the fighters managers should step in cause the fighters shouldn’t have to stand up to Dana and say no, cause everybody knows the dictator that Dana is!
Dan’s manager should atleast have done something about this since he won the first time and just scored a KO in a dominant performance over a top 185 contender..
by RoB on Jul 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would Franklin say no? He thought he won last time, a lot of people thought he won, so why wouldn’t he want to avenge the loss.
I really like these two fighters immensely and the match-up is far from boring, although I’ll be sad to see one of them lose.
But it does seem a bit too soon to be fighting each other again. But I accept it. And it’s a great match-up.
by Kobajack on Jul 20, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly i think both are happy to fight each other, specially as the main event as they will be getting a % of the PPV money.
by dtoto on Jul 20, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
too soon? when would you like to have it? they aren’t getting any younger, would you rather do it like Wand/Chuck…2 superstars on the down side of their careers?
by kevin on Jul 20, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i would rather never see it again than right now, yeah there getting older and at this point in there careers why fight someone you already fought(this year).they need to move on and fight other people i didn’t hear people begging to see a rematch of this one.
by roy on Jul 20, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. that was sorta what i was getting at.
by kitsunex on Jul 20, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a bad choice. The ppv # will show.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 20, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
“Frankly” I think Rich deserves it and would prefer to see this than Hendo Silva. Was there for the last fight and couldn’t call it so I think its fair 2 legends get to settle it properly
by MMAGreen on Jul 20, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If Chuck/Wand 2 would be anything like the first (which wasn’t so long ago) than HELL YES!! That was my fight of the year!
by haglnuts on Jul 21, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Why ? such a waste for henderson he clearly won that firstt fight even without the eyepoke. Id rather see wanderlei vs Rich 2 or wanderlei vs hendo 3 !
by Colin D on Jul 20, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions
Wanderlie vs Hendo 3 would be a much more exciting fight although I would hate to see either of them lose. I am not very excited to see Rich vs Hendo 2 at all. I would much rather see Rich face off against Jon Jones, Luiz Cane, or even Tito Ortiz.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
your right jon jones vs tito for titos comeback?
by Colin D on Jul 20, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be a great matchup as well. I would much rather see either of these guys face off against Rich for UFC 103 though. I want to see Hendo and Rich do well in their respective weight classes. Why couldn’t Hendo step in to fight Brandon Vera instead? That would have been a more exciting fight for me to watch.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
why not can you think of better match to headline instead of this bs
by Colin D on Jul 20, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
jon jones is not ready for tito and that fight has decision written all over it
by tuffguy01 on Jul 20, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i can think of many other fights that are better but most importantly fights that makes sense…
I’m not Dana i’m not a guy that just wants to see moneyfights, i want whats best and makes sense for the guys that i care about..
Jon Jones is too young and there’s no point in resigning Tito again if they are gonna make him fight Jones..
by RoB on Jul 20, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What a stupid fight.
Put Rich up against Luis Cane.
by DirtyML on Jul 20, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions
too much of dangerous fight for rich cain doesnt have much of name yet and is very dangerous definately see him koing rich.
by Colin D on Jul 20, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
not really , his stand up is super tight. His record suggests he’s underated.
by naturalist on Jul 20, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I usually don’t complain about the fights that the UFC puts on but this is just way too soon IMO.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully this is just a rumor because both guys could rise more quickly in their respective divisions by facing other competition. I’m not exactly pumped about this rematch.
by ScissorSweep on Jul 20, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions
UFC.com confirmed it. Unfortunatly it is official.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Not interested at all in this rematch. Another instance of one of the UFC’s posterboys getting what he wants. Is it gonna be at 205 or 185?
by RT on Jul 20, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions
yeah rich is acting like a crybaby about their previous fight oh well i hope dan can make him regret asking for this rematch!
by Colin D on Jul 20, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Acting like a crybaby? How? Have you seen him dissing Dan through the media or complaining about it? No. Separate your opinion from your obvious bias.
by Kobajack on Jul 20, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, they needed a bigger name opponent for Rich than Luiz Cane. They’re taking on Money Mayweather that night with head-to-head PPVs. These guys are both still elite fighters but I can’t say I really feel like watching them fight again. Franklin be decision.
This main event doesn’t knock your socks off, but with Cro-Cop/Dos Santos and Swick/Kampmann rounding out the main card it’s a pretty deep event. some really good undercard fights too.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions
Feel the same way JJ!I might watch the Mayweather’s fight live and 103 later on that night!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m still up in the air about which one I’ll watch live … but I’m watching both!
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah definitely!103 got good fights,but I feel like if i’m watching Gayweather after I won’t be as pump then watching it live!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d watch the boxing… this is silly, why can’t they just do their thing it’s so obvious that they’re only making this fight to compete with boxing, not the other way around…
by RoB on Jul 20, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t watch mayweather box on tha 19th if they paid me. I would rather watch two people with no arms in a slapping match, it would be more entertaining. Not to mention they’d probably hit harder. Boxing is on life-support. (Don King ruined it with his fight fixing).
by corey c on Jul 20, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It would have been great if they had Tito on this event. Tito can hype an event much like Mayweather and would therefore be great for a headliner going head to head with Mayweather IMO.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So if Bisping had won he would be fighting for the belt…
but if Hendo won he moves back up to 205 to fight a man he has already beaten.
……..
WTF!?!?
by Toad on Jul 20, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions
I think this is rich’s doing he probably bitched at dana and dan for a rematch and dan the warrior that he is doesnt turn down fights. I though rich wanted to please the fans with his fights but this clearly is just upsetting us all. rich franklin = bitch after silva made him suck his cock.
by Colin D on Jul 20, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what i was thinking i hope its at 185, hendo seems better at MW, but this makes no sense. This would be a good fight if they wanted a new 195 weight class and the winner was the champion.
by Blazy J on Jul 20, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
my thought’s exactly. Well, if he beats Franklin, he should be guaranteed a title-shot.
by Stryker on Jul 20, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
what does Franklin get if he wins though? nothing!! this is a lose lose for em!!
by irishlilpete on Jul 20, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Franklin will be able to avenge a loss and I can’t imagine that Hendo just took this as a regular fight. Then again, maybe he just wants to stay active while waiting to face Anderson or another top middleweight contender.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 21, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Henderson has earned a rematch with Anderson Silva. He is the only one that can dethrone the champ.
That’s the fight everyone is waiting for.
by vega on Jul 20, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions
Henderson would just get tooled again. The UFC wants new blood like Maia in there with him, and I agree. Marquardt is a better opttion than Dan as well, because he is young and has improved a lot since their first fight. Dan is just a little older than the last time he got owned. He hasn’t improved since then, if anything he’s deteriorated, so there’s no reason at all to believe the outcome would be different.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
A bit harsh there JJ!Dan isn’t deteriorating,he stays on the same level than before!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I said ‘if anything’ he’s deteriorated. My point was that 40 year-old fighters aren’t getting any better than they were two years ago.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
But I still think that Dan,will get the W again!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jul 20, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s what happens to everyone who fights Silva. They get caught. You make it sound like he was fighting Matt Hammill and got smashed with a lucky punch. He got “caught” by the best striker in the game, and the same thing will happen again.
Dan lay on him in the first round, then Anderson got sick of that, came out pissed off, and decided to shut Dan down. Henderson was a split second from being KO’d for the first time in that fight. He was smashed and then submitted. Yes, I think he got owned.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep exactly JJ, Anderson is on the verge of retiring and is bored with the lack of competition, why would he bother rematching someone who he beat comfortably last year, it’s as pointless as Andy-Franklin III. Dan like Rich is a quality fighter but won’t win a UFC title again, so unfortunately that is why the UFC have to put these two in matches that don’t benefit them. The first fight was close and 103 badly needed a good main event but it’s too soon since the last fight for this to peak my interest, hopefully Rich will win this one as I lost all respect for Dan after his tasteless comments at 100 following a dirty punch.
The only good news is that judging on Joe Silva’s recent matchmaking, Wandi-Bisping is a strong possibility for 105, as he likes to put the winners and losers of fights against each other (see Sanchez/Guida/Diaz/Stevenson) so now there is a great chance of Wandi putting on a great show at Manchester. I like Bisping but I’ll be hoping for a KO by Silva.
Anderson-Maia/Marquardt makes a lot more sense to me, don’t get me wrong Nate got destroyed in his title fight but a win over Maia would make him the top contender. I would have preferred Hendo to be saved for a potential fight with Nate in case he won as it would make the rematch more marketable and the winner would be the unquestioned top contender. However I’m confident in Demian’s ability so a dream fight with Anderson is a strong possibility for the end of the year, in a perfect world Andy and Maia will both win their fights without injury and would be on 105 but more likely it will be a headliner for a card later in the year.
by David W-S on Jul 20, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you say dan got owned but nate marquardt got OWNED….dan atleast put up a fight and won a round
by JG on Jul 20, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, agreed completely. My argument is that Marquardt has improved FAR more than Dan since their respective fights against Anderson. And Maia has never fought him, so that match-up is probably more intriguing to the UFC.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
uhh…..what? This is probably one of the most retarded things Joe Silva has come up with. And hes just about always dead on with his fight picks. This doesnt even make any sense. Its a step back for both guys. If Franklin loses again he doesnt look good at all. If Hendo wins it doesnt boost him at all. I hope they both turn down the fight. Hendo needs his rematch with Spider and Id love to see Franklin give Ortiz a welcome back.
by terribleone on Jul 20, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions
i think this is a great re-match, and a worthy main event for 103. I personally thought that Franklin won that fight. The only strange thing is that i though franklin was moving on in the 205 division and henderson was going to stay in 185;sepecially after the bispbing KO.
I wonder what weight theyll have this fight.
Good fight either way.
by Paul on Jul 20, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions
I’m more excited for the Kos vs Trigg fight than this crap!! It’s total BS that they put this together, Rich should face off against a top 5 205er, he just beat Wandy, come on!!
And Hendo should be fighting Silva or Maia/Marquardt…still can’t believe this but unfortunately it came from UFC.com :(
by Mascarita on Jul 20, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions
this is retarded!!!!!!!!!!!!! it makes no sense!!! rich has to fight at a weight were there is no benefit to him, another fight were rich is helping the ufc out to his own disadvantge. and if he wins it just knocks Hendo away from fighting silva one the few that could trouble the spider!! FUCK SAKE JOE SILVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U SCREWED THE POOCH ON DIS 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by irishlilpete on Jul 20, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions
Noooooo, not again. Borring fight. Whats wrong with the UFC. Put up good fights, not ok ones !
by Sean on Jul 20, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions
Here’s another great idea: If he beats Franklin again, then Bisping can have a rematch too. After that maybe he can fight Paul Harris again. Oh wait, that won’t work. It was too long ago.
Seriously, who has any desire to see this fight right now?
by prokstar on Jul 20, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions
i dont
even if hendo knocks out franklin the way he did to bisping hes just gonna get fucked over by the ufc
by ian on Jul 20, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather watch this fight than any of fedors fights with the exception of him fighting a ufc guy, like brock or carwin but we know that’s not going to happen so get over it you can’t have a spectacular card every month !! look at what just took place on the 11th, then you’ve got bj/kenflo forrest/spider followed by randy/nog and jardine / t. silva
this is not a bad fight get over it , yeah it really has no benefit to either guy but it’s still a good match up atleast they will go out and fight!! plus look at the other fights on this card it’s not like its a lame card with a so-so main event won’t be bad just following several good cards that’s why it seems so bad
by TheDragon on Jul 20, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You could make the argument that after defeating Wandy, Rich put himself in line for a title shot. His only other loss at 85 was to the current champ. Same case for for Hendo after knocking Bisping tfo. Rich can beat Hendo. It can go either way imo. Good fight for the 85 division.
by truestory on Jul 20, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions
ive looked thru a couple of forums and absolutly no1 is excited!! this is bullshit
by irishlilpete on Jul 20, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions
I’m NOT GONNA WATCH THIS i’ll BE WATCHING BOXING
by iamdanawhite on Jul 20, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i can’t believe this! Dana White should know that he is full of it. how can we call the ufc and let them know our opinions?
I don’t wanna see dan H vs Rich F. again or Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin 10.
It’s not right that Dana white stated that if Bisbing beat hendo he would get a title shot vs Anderson but Hendo doesn’t?
This makes no sense in my head.
by iamdanawhite on Jul 20, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions
call yourself. your dana white …. arent you??
by 36chamberz on Jul 20, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Retarded.
These are two different guys going in two different directions. They fought. It’s over. Move on. Let Hendo get his title shot at MW. Let Rich fight someone in the LHW division and let them go their own ways.
This makes little sense. A win does nothing to help either guy out in their own weight class, but a loss hurts them.
Retarded.
by Craig on Jul 20, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions
This is fcking stupid.
It a waste of both their time, but Dan is the one who gets screwed the most obviously.
This sucks.
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 20, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
Well Rich got screwed by the judges in their first fight IMO.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 20, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
im looking forward to this. Rematches are alwayz good to watch .
by 36chamberz on Jul 20, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
Rich has such a weird style he throws like he is power puncher but doesnt knock ppl out he, some people have punching power some dont and rich is stupid and dumb i hate him for even considering this fight! i thought rich fought for the fans ut noone wants to see this! I wouldnt be surprised if this fight was discarded
by Colin D on Jul 20, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
Find your own gimmick, d-bag.
Stop being a biter.
by OJR on Jul 21, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I am guessing the UFC said to Rich we want you at 103 and Franklin said then give me Henderson. They needed some star power so here it is. I wanted to see a rematch eventually because I thought Franklin won the first one, but the timing seems odd here.
by Woody on Jul 20, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions
This makes NO SENSE at all. The first fight wasn’t that interesting. Dan should be facing top guys at MW like Marquardt or Maia or Okami. If not, he should be fighting someone like Jardine at LHW. Not Franklin AGAIN. That fight does nothing at all for Hendo him unless he KO’s him. They are just not a compelling match-up any way you look at it. It’s a holding pattern fight. DUMB as hell and one of the worst calls ever.
by revjames13 on Jul 20, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
Pretty obvious they were desperate for a main event with two big names. I’d love to see a rematch, but this soon?
by Jay on Jul 20, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions
they shud do it 195 that way neither guy losses momentum..
by guyverbob on Jul 20, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Should have give Hendo the winner of Nate vs Maia, then the winner of that to face Silva for the title, this match up just doesn’t make any sense, I would prefer to see a rematch of Wandy vs Franklin before this.
by Riley on Jul 20, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
Everyone agrees that their last match up was close. Why so many upset people? It almost makes me think some of you guys are just jumping on the bandwagon like lemmings.
I know you guys want new match ups, I do too. But Silva & Machida (sp?) both have upcoming fights, and these two needed an opponent
by Jason on Jul 20, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions
This is one time when I REALLY hope ufc brass reads the underground forums to see what the fans enjoy. Ive been to a few sights like this and junkie. Myspace group. Yada yada and about 99 percent of fans truly do not wanna see this. I hope they do something to switch this up.
In all honesty Id like to see a franklin vs spider 3 in the 205lb division. And I dont even really wanna see that.
by terribleone on Jul 20, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
Why not offer this fight to chuck
I’m sure chuck can hang with rich
by phenomenal angel on Jul 20, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
OK Listen, dont blame Joe Silve, Anderson is gonna be occupied with griffin, then probably gonna face the winner of Nate and Damien, Hendo maybe deserve it yeah but dana made too many promises to guys who are not! called Hendo, so this is perfect! Franklin gets the fight he wants, its a fast way to possibly getting a title shot for both guys. Obviously hendo wouldnt take this fight if he wasnt garrenteed a title shot with a win, and this fight put franklin up there in a big time fight with a Forrest, Rampage, Rashad, Hell maybe even a rematch with Machida!
this is a great time for them to fight, cause there is nothing else out there for them
So stop complaining and enjoy a grudge match, cause these guys will not like each other going in. they may not be verbal about it like Bisping and hendo were, but they’ll show it in the cage.
by Josh on Jul 20, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
PS Chuck is done, take him out of the 205 equation, dana will not let him fight again
by Josh on Jul 20, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions
Chuck may be done but I’m sure he can ko franklin
by phenomenal angel on Jul 20, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Dan Henderson showed more aggression.
Rich basically runs backwards and waits to counter-punch…
Finally in the third round Rich starting picking it back up again.
But in my opinion, Dan Henderson won the first fight because he was bringing it.
Rich’s style gets on my nerves sometimes.
by nobody on Jul 20, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
this fight makes absolutely no sense. joe silva – genius some days, donkey’s ass on others.
by shiki31 on Jul 20, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions
Weak Sauce UFC!!
What are you trying to be like the WWE here or something??
Hendo vs winner of Marquart/Maia is an absolute!
Rich vs winner of Jardine/Thiago should also happen
by Torresisawarrior on Jul 20, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
That would be cool but that wouldn’t give either fighter a proper training camp.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
hendo won the first fight even though hendo got his rib broke with a leg kick in the first round the ufc is protecting spider because he will loose to forest and henderson would have won the second fight and marquart has not done enough to get a second title shot if he beats maia marquart or maia will loose to spider it makes no difrence
by alpha on Jul 20, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
its not a leg kick if it hits his rib, and i disagree with everything u said..
by guyverbob on Jul 20, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This sucks.
I live in Fort Worth and I wanted to go to my first UFC show…
Tickets are already on sale and sold out in my price range.
I should’ve stayed on top of that… I didn’t realize they were already on sale.
Any tips on getting tickets in the future?
by nobody on Jul 20, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t usually have a problem with their match making, but the UFC really sh!t the bed with this one. I have zero interest in seeing this fight right now.
-Too soon for a rematch.
-Rich is poised to make a run at 205
-Dan is on the move at 185
The only way this thing shakes out to make any sense is if they are creating a weight class at 195 and this will be for the belt.
by SHORT_BUS on Jul 20, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t usually have a problem with their match making, but the UFC really sh!t the bed with this one.
I have zero interest in seeing this fight right now.
-Too soon for a rematch.
-Rich is poised to make a run at 205
-Dan is on the move at 185
The only way this thing shakes out to make any sense is if they are creating a weight class at 195 and this will be for the belt.
by SHORT_BUS on Jul 20, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
I got an idea.
What about Rich Franklin and Michael Bisping Tag Team
vs.
Dan Henderson alone.
Then we can just get all this over with.
by nobody on Jul 20, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
I was actually thinking Bisping could fight Franklin instead but Bisping is going to be fighting at UFC 105. Plus, he has shown no interest in competing at 205 anymore.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 20, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
All I can say about this is WTF way to soon for a rematch…
by DL92 on Jul 20, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
amen for you nobody how will everone look at spider if he looses to forest
by alpha on Jul 20, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
Probably the least satisfying main event since Bisping vs. Rashad in New Jersey
by sam on Jul 20, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
Weak
Too soon for this rematch, and too weak for a main event IMO.
by introvert on Jul 20, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
who ever fights spider after forest that fighter will have a big advantage maybe after fanklin henderson will fight machda that would be intresting
by alpha on Jul 20, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
WHy can’t the ufc have one fight per card as voted by fans that maybe have purchased ppv’s EVERY F-ing month for the last 6 months. THat way the ufc win wins. More people would buy ppv’s if they knew if they purchased so many ppv’s in a certain time they could be eligible to vote for a dream fight
by iamdanawhite on Jul 20, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions
This was going to be my first live event. Now I’m not even sure if I want to go see this in person.
Swick vs Kapman is the best fight on this stinking card (IMO). This pisses me off
by jtc2112 on Jul 20, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
jtc>>> same here, was going to be my 1st time to a UFC, and now I’m giving up on it and saving the money for a trip to Vegas to catch a halfway decent card
by Ed on Jul 20, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah jtc2112 you gotta be stupid to wanna think that fight with swick and kapman will be gud, oh and the winner gets GSP …please move along and go watch hendo vs Jim Carey, that’s a worthy fight as well, lol…
by iamdanawhite on Jul 20, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
terrrrrible, really dont need to see these guys fight again
by saba23 on Jul 20, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
I was planning on attending this fight, and now look what Joe’s gone and done!!! He’s made this card all but a F’N joke! Are you serious??? Bottom line tickets for $200 bucks and all you get for a main event is a rematch that no one wants! What reasoning could there possibly be to this! You bring the UFC back to TX and you put this crap out there for us!!!!!!!! Looks like I’ve managed to save the ticket and travel costs on this one, hell even the PPV cost, definitely not even worth that!
by Ed on Jul 20, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions
i had plans to go to dallas to see this too, now after seeing this main event, i think i will pass, and watch texas tech vs. texas
by sam on Jul 20, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
i’ll be rite there with you on this one sam… comin up from lubbock to atx for this one
by Ed on Jul 20, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It is a stupid fight in that it has no meaning outside of their own rivalry. I think Rich wants it and Dan is not the type of guy to refuse a rematch. Dan has such a stellar jaw that it’s hard to see Rich really hurting him but ya never know. Nice to see Junior getting a big name to KO.
by naturalist on Jul 20, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
Dan Henderson, Rich Franklin, Wanderlei Silva. All huge names, big draws, but no real place. They are world class, but not title holders. The person with the best, and only chance of winning a belt, is Dan. The UFC apparently doesn’t want that, so he’s stuck with random fights.
This just seems like it’s not doing anything for either of them. Franklin needs to establish himself at 205, and Hendo deserves a shot at the belt!
by Miketsi on Jul 20, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
i think this is an idiotic match. dan won fair and square, end of story
by heathergilmoreloveskuder on Jul 20, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, but a lot of people think Franklin won. I watched it again and despite preferring Franklin to be the winner, I would say Hendo just took round two, although that is very contestable. The definites here are that Hendo won round one and Franklin one round three, but round two is open to argument.
Therefore, a rematch is perfectly justified.
by Kobajack on Jul 21, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn, ignore this post, I submitted before I was finished and cancelled half way through. The post below is finished. Hehe.
by Kobajack on Jul 21, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but a lot of people think Franklin won. I watched it again and despite preferring Franklin to be the winner, I would say Hendo just took round two, and therefore won the fight, although it’s very contestable. What isn’t arguable (unless you’re as stupid as the judge who scored the fight 30-27 in Franklin’s favor) is the fact that Hendo won round one and Franklin won round three. But round two is open to argument.
Therefore, a rematch is perfectly justified.
by Kobajack on Jul 21, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
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if this is correct tell the girl with the hot voice that answers the phone all our “beef” with this figt and lets see if the ufc listens to it’s customers!!!!!
by iamdanawhite on Jul 20, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Hendo won a great fight(imho) in the first encounter, however, he was fortunate it was only a 3 round fight. That night, irrespective of the eye poke, Franklin wins a 5 round battle. I am looking forward to watching this fight but I agree it is too soon. Perhaps they do expect Forrest to beat Silva or they dont care. Its so strange, how about the winner of the Franklin v Hendo fight gets the winner of the Silva v Forrest fight at 205. In this last scenario all have an equal chance of getting screwed.
by TapedUpPair on Jul 20, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions
dumb fight. Hendo won the fight. Rather see a rematch between WAND vs ACE
by Ramon on Jul 20, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
um how about hendo gets silva like dana said bisding would have gotten. Dana is full of it
by iamdanawhite on Jul 20, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
hendo won the first fight even though he got his rib broke in the first round no one talks about that this time he will ko ace
by alpha on Jul 20, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
Dumb rematch for a terrible fight card, wasnt going to buy 103, and still wont.
by Belisarius on Jul 20, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
You are not a true fan of the sport if you say this is not a good card. This is a very very solid card actually.
by YES U U U on Jul 20, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Hendo vs Franklin makes a lot of sense. If Hendo wants to challenge Anderson Silva, he needs at least 2 spectacular wins for his highlight reel promo. Who better than Franklin, who he beat but not without dispute. Guys saying he won fair and square. Yeah, he did, but it was by split, so it was so close, it could’ve easily gone the other way. When Silva was asked, who is the best fighter he has ever faced, Silva said Franklin. If Hendo can’t finish Franklin, there’s gonna be a lot of dispute whether Hendo really deserves the title shot or not. IMO, beating Bisping wasn’t that big of a deal, everyone pretty much knew it was gonna happen. Beating Franklin in similar fashion, solidifies Hendo’s shot at the title, and I’d think Hendo is right at Silva’s level.
by jaime on Jul 20, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
are you dana white or lil joe silva stfu
by iamdanawhite on Jul 20, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
he deserves a title shot.he just beat franklin.
by hddavidson on Jul 20, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Hendo is at Silva’s level. Hendo hits hard and is a great wrestler – obviously he has a shot – but Silva’s striking is clearly head and shoulders above everyone else in MMA – his accuracy, hand and foot speed is simply on another level.
by David Erb on Jul 20, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
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by iamdanawhite on Jul 20, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
For fuck sakes, give Dan his rematch hes not getting any younger!
by Stab to the Liver on Jul 20, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
WTF…I felt like this fight just happened. I hope its not true.
In my opinion A. Silva vs Hendo makes way more sense then this.
If Franklin beats Hendo at 185 then where does this put Hendo back at the bottom? I don’t want to see Franklin fight silva again that’s for sure.
Doesn’t make sense it’s like when Rampage fought Jardine.
by skelow on Jul 20, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
if bisping was going to get a shot ,than hendo should have got a shot at the belt.this is a dumb fight.hope dan got some good money for this bs
by hddavidson on Jul 20, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Hendo vs. Franklin 2 is a good headline fight — but — the Dana White needs to add one more headline fight for this card to be on par with other cards….What about adding Guida vs. Sanchez 2 on the same card? adding this fight would give this card much needed credibility…
by David Erb on Jul 20, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
Double Gay! Rather see Ortiz/Shamrock IV…..whatever Dana
by Daveisyourhero on Jul 20, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
This card needs one more headliner – what about Guida vs. Sanchez 2?
by David Erb on Jul 20, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Twice in the same year you dumbass? Get Tito back and have him against Franklin. Hendo beat Franklin. Why do it again?
by Nini on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Another headliner would be Jon Jones vs. Luiz Cane
or Diego Sanchez vs Frankie Edgar
or Matt Hughes vs. Brock Larson
Neither will probably happen though
by sam on Jul 20, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
Jesse, Great vid! Where did it go?… The guy in the red was totally outclassed.
by TapedUpPair on Jul 20, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
Dos Santos vs CroCop has been annonced for this event. Don’t know if its going to co-headline or what ?
by Casual fan on Jul 20, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
i think this card looks good with a lot of guys who like to keep it on the feet. i bought tickets today and im pretty pumped
by child on Jul 20, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
This fight doesn’t make sense. Franklin should be fighting someone at light heavyweight. I hope this changes. Joe silva needs to lay off the sauce.
by luke on Jul 20, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
Henderson is one of the most boring fighters you could possibly watch. Same style from day 1, left jab, overhead right and MAYBE a below the knee kick.
by charlyw on Jul 20, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
almost every fighter keeps there same styles trough out there carers thats why certain fighters match up better than others henderson is a tough match up against anybody because he is like hitting a firehidrent and is as tough as it gets I dont care if its matchita silva evens or whoever he can beat anybody when forest beats spider henderson would have won the next fight so when this franklin thing is done I think matchita is next for henderson
by alpha on Jul 20, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, what it the spelling or the ridiculous predictions?
by Chalkbot on Jul 21, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
What a freggin rip-off.
UFC- you should be ashamed of yourself.
I’m sending my resume to Lorenzo.
I’m sure my experience as the night shift snow-cone stand attendant makes me more qualified than Joe Silva.
by Ken on Jul 20, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
i love me some henderson but i wish he wasnt such a yes man. This is a lose lose situation for dan he wins people say well he already beat the guy big deal. He loses and u can kiss the title shot goodbye. It makes me mad because dan is not getting any younger and looked great in the fight against bisping.
by darth fedor on Jul 20, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions
darth your comment is right on the money I think forest will beat silva and henderson would have won the second fight matchita might be hendersons next fight after franklin
by alpha on Jul 20, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And charlyw u r a fool go watch the noguiera henderson #2 fight or the wandy fight then please think about what u say before u say it idiot.
by darth fedor on Jul 20, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
this is a slap in the face to all ufc fans AND hendo AND franklin. hendo is coming off three big wins. rich at least one. hendo wants the middle weight belt. franklin wants to move up the ladder at 205. we have already watched two of our most beloved fighters go after each other to a pretty much a stalemate. i dont want to see them fight again and i want to see both of them flourish at the end of their careers
by shadfu on Jul 20, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions
winner gets winner of shogun/machida. hendo was amazing after a hard weight cup. back at 205 he could be a serious contender.
by jonny on Jul 21, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
I am confused like everybody else .. clearly Hendo is getting shafted here .. he deserved the MW title shot again Silva and has been put in this lose lose situation .. its not that he will qualify for title match against Machida if he beats Franklin .. who knows .. he might.. no choice but wait and see things unfold.
by commoner on Jul 21, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
what a joke???not going to watch this fight again.
by cheezwiz on Jul 21, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions
what a joke. this fight does nothing for anybody, just an absolutely HORRIBLE fight
by Anthony on Jul 21, 2009 3:50 AM EDT reply actions
Well if this happens , than DAN will KO rich as he did with Mike
by Il Nino on Jul 21, 2009 4:04 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah, just like he did the first time, right?
by Kobajack on Jul 21, 2009 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions
But I guess with Dan that’s always a possibility.
by Kobajack on Jul 21, 2009 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions
he deserve the title shot , and I think Dan is the only man in the weight devision who can take it from the Spider
by Il Nino on Jul 21, 2009 4:05 AM EDT reply actions
This makes no sense. Would of rather seen Tito vs. Rich.
by xxBAxx816 on Jul 21, 2009 4:17 AM EDT reply actions
Let me get this straight everyone here believes that Dan Henderson deserves a re-match with Middleweight champ Anderson Silva because he’s beaten Michael Bisping (who everyone on this site has claimed to be a C level fighter), Rich Franklin (at 205 lbs) and the very one dimensional Rousimar Palhares?
The next shot should go to the winer of Demian Maia vs. Nate Marquardt or Yushin Okami.
by wolfman on Jul 21, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions
3 quick things:
Guyverbob is funny lol everything Colin d says is retarded
And finally lose or loses is spelt just like I wrote it. Looses is not a word I don’t think I have ever seen any1 spell this word correctly n I sit by too much and watch that. Blah! if he “loses” the fight. And by the way any1 who thought the 1st ace vs hendo was boring isn’t a fight fan. It was a 15 min hockey fight just like ace vs wandi. Great fights and I am all about the rematch. Good job j.Silva and Dana and hendo/ace for wanting 2 put on another good one.
by Daniel worby on Jul 21, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions
I’m happy with the re-match to. I actually thought that Franklin should have won the first one; all Hendo seemed to do is rely on his big right hand (same as with Bisping) yet Franklin was much more versatile, landed more strikes and although he wasn’t as powerful he still displayed a more variety of skills. It seems to me that a lot of people hear are only interested if guys KO’ing everybody. You could also bet that Franklin asked for a re-match and Hendo being Hendo said yes why not.
The UFC obviously needed named fighters for the headline the only other fights that I could come up with for this event are Hendo vs. Wanderlei or Franklin vs. Tito.
by wolfman on Jul 21, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Have to say I have no desire to see this fight again. Maybe down the line but not so soon after their first fight which wasn’t all that great anyway.
by MK on Jul 21, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
nate marquardt vs dan henderson would have been 5x better
by threnody on Jul 21, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions
UFC just slaughtered what was going to be a good card. Thanks for saving me the 70 bucks Dana
by DF on Jul 21, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions
Hendo vs Wandy would be a much better fight as someone just mentioned. I like both of these guys, but this is even weaker than Thales vs Silva, and I didnt think that was possible. Total, total sham.
by Kung Foo on Jul 21, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
I was dying to go to this event, bu now I will NOT be going. Stupid match making.
by Mad A on Jul 21, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
God I hate rematches. Just why? Hendo won. Simple as that. And I dont buy the whole split disision thing. I dont care if it was close, the judges ruled the winner. Thats it.
Wasn’t like some crazy no contest or DQ or anything, which I could understand a rematch for.
I have no interest in watching this fight again. Theres so many potential good fights to be made, why do they insist on rematches because 1 judge of 3 felt differently.
by UK_Chris on Jul 21, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
This fight is STUPID they should of had different opponents for both guys instead of rematch. 1) Hendo vs Wanderlei Silva 185 top contender and 2) Rich Franklin vs Tito Ortiz 205. These two fights are way more interesting…..
by Cory on Jul 21, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions
The overall card is good but I am disapointed in the main event and I dont think it will get alot of buys. I would have much rather seen Henderson vs. W.Silva as the main event and Franklin vs. Luis Cane as the co-main event. Then this card would really compete with Mayweather vs. Marquez fight.
by P.Flo on Jul 21, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions
FUCK IT !! THEY SHUD HAVE A STEPHAN BONNAR VS. MARK COLEMAN REMATCH TOO!!!
by d*locc on Jul 21, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
Man u guys do need wwe. Nothing wrong with this rematch. It was a great fight. U guys need fake fights or search felony fights on you tube. There, fights that always finish. You happy? Now go away and cry somewhere else. Great rematch. Not too soon. What give em each another fight then this? Umm that just derails one of em later down the road. There not getting younger. I’m pumped to see if Franklin can pull this out. And maybe result in a part 3 to this standup hockey fight.
by Daniel worby on Jul 21, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions
what are you stupid or do you work for the ufc, and how did you earn your blue name daniel worby?
by iamdanawhite on Jul 21, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Daniel, it’s not that it wasn’t a great fight, it’s both fighters are trying to make something out of themselves in different weight classes. What’s the weight for this fight? They fought when Franklin was going up and Hendo was going down and it made sense. Now it really doesn’t.
by DF on Jul 21, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
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