Alves is a shark, Hardy is fairly humble so i think he should fight a lesser guy than Alves. Davis on the other hand thinks he is ‘all that’, mix him up with Alves. I wanna see Hardy take on some one like Kos or Rumble – maybe even Serra.

WOW, what a fucking pic!!!!! :)

come on enough with the excuses, you got beat yeah you need to train harder or do something different, but dont make excuses

The problem is Thiago, as you go back to your preferred coach and get your timing …. GSP is evolving even more. It has nothing to do with what you are going to do, the fight will always depend on GSP’s game plan. He is just that good.

Next match up: Fitch v Alves 2.

lol nice pic there buddy. Jeez GSP hits hard seems like alves got hit with a bat.

i think its too soon for alves vs fitch. hardy vs alves is too one sided, alves would crush him. Maybe the loser of swick vs kampmann can fight alves.

Thiago Alves is and has been my favorite fighter for a while. I really thought he was going to win, but GSP just completely out wrestled him. He even out striked him. However i know Thiago can do so much better than what he did. He didnt look as crisp as he usualy does, his cardio was great though.

I still think he is the only fighter at this time that can beat GSP. He definitely did better than GSP’s recent competition. I think Koscheck is the only guy whos done better than Thiago with GSP.

Right know i really want to see Thiago rematch with Jon Fitch. He has a loss to him but i think he has evolved enough to beat him. Plus for some reason Fitch has to fight anyone who beat Koscheck so he can go ahead and try to beat the Pitbull.

it’s clear from this pic that Thiago is a demon. Or vampire. They always come out in photos like this.

I think GSP should start fighting middleweight fighters. Just like Anderson Silva is fighting lightheavyweight contenders. GSP vs Michael Bisping? That would be interesting.

george st ortiz,sorry george st pierre is miles in front of anyone in that division.i dont know about him fighting a.silva though.could anyone say hand on heart that gsp would even beat henderson,franklin(i know hes moved up),maia,marquadt(same camp i know just an example).

gsp is too good thiago ur timing was bad cuz he is 2 good.

I like how before the fight he said I’m in the best shape of my life and I trained hard.

Now he’s like my timing is off and my Muay Thai coach went away for 3 months. Oh brother please stop with the excuses.

Everyone says they can beat GSP but when they get in that cage its a whole another story.

Since first serra fight GSP’s striking has been damn near flawless. Earlier in his career his footwork was really fancy but now its a lot more realistic couse he has become more of a wrestler these days. i don’t think he got hit more than 5-6 times in alves fight

St Pierre destroyed you for 5 rounds. Matt Serra beat St Pierre so anyone can lose on any given night cause the better fighter doesn’t always win the fight. GSP would beat Alves 9 out of 10 times. He’s a smarter and more tactical fighter and he has more tools to beat Alvez. Only way for Alvez to beat GSP is by knockout..case closed.

He beat you up even though he could hardly stand. Get a f’n clue!

look at all this gsp nuthuggers because alves feels he can beat gsp alves is being honest

was gsp making excuses when he felt he could beat hughes in there rematch

Alves is neglecting to realize that his best chance at beating GSP has already passed him by. It’s not going to get any better than an injured GSP.

i wanna see Alves vs Marcus Davis. that would be a great fight. I think Fitch beats him and Swick too. Actually a great fight would be Alves vs Condit

great match ups:

Alves vs Condit
Swick vs Hardy
Kampmann vs Fitch
Davis vs Thiago

A rematch between Fith and Alves would be sweet! Fith TKO’ed him the last time. Alves has to want to try his luck again.

Never mind that GSP took Alves down at will, and then pounded him on the ground. Alves had no takedown defense, which would likely not have been helped by Alves’ muay thai coach.

Alves needs to grow up,and accept that he has some big gaps in his game. GSP has no gaps, and excels at every phase of MMA. That’s why he’s a champ, and Alves will be a runner-up.

I just finished watching some interviews with BJ and he says that he plans on beating KenFlo then beating the next guy after that and then if GSP is still around " lets see what goes around comes around" haha just found that hilarious.

Thiago’s striking was on strike during the fight, sure, but having watched it twice I think that had everything to do with GSP running a superior game plan and very little to do with anything on Alves’ part.

You got out-classed, dude. It ain’t pretty, but it’s reality.

you are right WB matt finished GSP with a sub which is much worse than a decision

so alves now ha no takedown defense?

maybe it is because gsp is the best wrestler in mma bj penn has the best takedown defense in mma most likely and he got taken down

Alves lacks the reach needed.

Considering the closeness in age between him and GSP, it is amazing how far GSP has come (not a slam on Alves).

Yeah right…

EVERONE THINKS GSP IS THE BEST WRESTLER IN MMA OR THE BEST POUND FOR POUND IN THE WORLD ITHINK THAT IS WRONG HENDERSON HAS HELD TWO BELTS AT ONE TIME AND BATTLED AT THREE WEIGHT CLASS AT THE SAME POINT IN HIS CAREER NO ONE FIGHTING CURRENTLY HAS DONE THAT THE SPINDER WILL LOOSE TO FOREST BECAUSE OF FORESTS SIZE AND I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS SPIDERS BOXING DEFENCE IS BAD HE KEEPS HIS HANDS WAY TO LOW AND THAT WILL COST HIM IN HIS NEXT TWO FIGHTS SPIDER WILL LOOSE TO FOREST THEN HENDERSON WILL TAKE HIS TITLE EVERYONE FORGETS HENDERSON GOT HIS RIB BROKE WITH A KICK IN THE FIST ROUND WITH FRANKLIN AND STILL WON

I’m not even a GSP fan and as soon as I saw this headline it pissed me off. He made a lot of bad decisions because GSP is a better fighter then he is. If GSP brings his gameplan in the ring against any fighter in 170 then they are all going to think that they made mistakes because GSP is good enough to take them out of their gameplan. Like BJ Penn….. just admit that you got beat by a better fighter, that was not better then you that night, but better then you right now at this point of your career.

Of course you can beat GSP, silly.

Anything is probable.

Lets take my chances, for instance. I have a .0000000000000000000000001% chance of beating him.

Another difference between the two is like GSP said he’s not fighting to be the champ he is the champ he’s fighting to be the best pound for pound fighter, alves just wants to be “the man” as do most of gsp’s opponents the want to be champ and thats all they think about is beating the man and being the champ, which if you are the champ doesnt make you the best

I give you much props for enduring a 5 round lay and pray fest by St.Pierre as most top tier WWs have endured. Although, Greasy wanted to lay on you the whole fight you still got back to your feet and kept pressing. GSP who is a “black belt in BJJ” couldn’t even finish you. You’ll be alright.

YOU ALL TALK ABOT 170 HE REALLY SHOUD FIGHT AT 185 HENDERSON OR SILVA WOULD DESTORY HIM AND HENDERSON IS A BETTER ON THE GROUND OR ON THE FEET AND SILVA WILL LOOSE HIS NEXT TWO FIGHTS FOREST WILL BEAT THE SPIDER BECAUSE OF SIZE AND SPIDER KEEPS HIS HANDS TO LOW THAT WILL COST HIM IN HIS NEXT TWO FIGHTS

Alves game plan (like every one else who has faced gsp) was all wrong. The way to beat gsp is to beat him at his own game. You have to put him on his back.

He needs to learn to finish.

man, suck it up…..you lost every round in that fight. blame it on what ever you want….you lost so deal with it. It pisses me off how guys like Alves cry about a loss and claim they should have…..or could have. (BJ ring a bell?) Just deal with it and know you got owned by GSP.

I hate it when a fighter does this crap- you had your chance to beat him and you didn’t. Don’t give me this next time I’d beat stuff!

it dont matter thiago. Learn all the muay thai you want gsp still took you down and thats what won him the fight. He controlled you on the ground mainly and he barely stood with you. Am i the only one who thinks this is just an excuse and its fuckin bullshit. lol just don’t like people that make excuses like that

Yeah right, it wasn’t even close- dude didn’t win a round.

I’m a GSP fan but I wouldn’t bet against Swick in the next fight, just because a psychological letdown is always possible for St. Pierre.
He’s coming off huge wins over Fitch, Penn and Alves, who were all supposed to test him. He said he trained very hard for them.
He wouldn’t have to be at the top of his game to defeat Swick, so you never know what could happen. It could be a major upset in the making, similar to his first fight against Serra, who nobody thought had a chance.

Trigg vs Davis

I beleive GSP will be champ for a while. While Kampmann and Swick are good, they simply aren’t in the same league as GSP, and it’ll be another fight like Anderson v. Leites.
The UFC is gonna have to find someone to test him, because right now, he has beaten the shit out of everyone in his division. Fitch, simply doesn’t have the skill set to test, Thiago is good, but obviously not good enough.

Who knows.

Ryan Hobbs, didn’t see any1 answer ur question. I dunno how to spell it, but rumble gets yoshida yoshiama or whaaaaatever. His name may as well be yoshi yoshi so we all remember. That’s if I’m not mistaking feel free to fill me in if I am. And gsp is # 1,2,&3 in ww. Every1 Dana tries to scare us into believing is a legit contender gets raped and thrown back to there cornermen swolled and scared. He’s an animal.

Wow alpha and xxbaxx are real fans. Ha ha. Just flat out tells us spider WILL lose his next 2? Umm ya good idea. And gsp needs to finish fights? He is riding a 1 fight no finish streak! Ooooo. Last I checked there wasn’t a round 5 in the Penn fight. Wow you guys are good @ this. Maybe watch the sport so you can appreciate what gsp does. Alves kept gettin up? Ya and gsp kept sitting him down with double digit slams! 10! Ha ha. And ya lay n pray? How come alves went into the fight Brazilian. and came out Chinese? Must have been all that laying and praying. Yay gsp! Boo part timers.

Dammit blackberry! I do all this from mine and it takes forever to update my comments section so I can kee arguing. Or else its mmamania…hmm…do you guys h8 Canadians? You trying to hold us back? ;)

My man dan hardy should be next and he will knock gsp out

THE LAST TIME I LOOKED SILVA HAS NEVER BATTLED ANYONE WITH THE SIZE OF FOREST AND HE KEEPS HIS HANDS WAY TO LOW LIKE SAY LIKE CHUCK DOES FOREST HAS A VARY GOOD CHANCE TO BEAT SPIDER AND HENDERSON WILL TAKE THE TITLE THIS TIME IN THE FIRST FIGHT HENDERSON SHOULD HAVE BROKEN HIS NOSE WITH HARDER HAMMERFISTS ALMOST THE WHOLE FIRST ROUND I THINK HE TOOK IT EASY ON HIM IT WONT HAPPEN AGAIN

Yikes! I thought mmamania didn’t post ppl who just use caps lock the whole time. Oh well. And ya he will have his hands full with forest but I still expect him to pick him apart. He is undefeated for a reason in the ufc. He’s top 3 in the world for a reason too. Its no surprise that gsp spider and fedor are the men to beat. There fucking incredible. Guy hit the caps lock button its to the left.

silva keeps his hands to low and this will catch up with him I hope when he fights henderson again he grabs henderson behind the head because henderson will overhand him in the ribs not his head and probably break rib causing him to drop his hands then ko him

Why are you anti spider? I don’t like his last 2 performances either but that’s not all his fault. He had a guy that didn’t wanna fight. He fought smart. And he is unsatisfied with Danas matchups. Understandable. Forest will test him. And henderson is deserved of the #1 contender @ 185. I guess I have trouble looking past my boys is all. I love hendo too. And forest I just think he is too inconsistent, for mr consistent.

I think GSP knocked this motherfuckers brain loose because he clearly isn’t talking sensibly. He wasn’t close to beating St.Pierre ONCE!!! Now he gotta get back in line and pray for another shot…sucks to be him.

Alves is completely f’n retarded to think he wants anything more to do with GSP. Dude needs to move up or to Strikeforce. GSP completely outclassed him….doesn’t belong in the same cage as him.

Whatever. Tom Atencio would have beat the Alves that showed at UFC 100.

I don’t know why it was hard to come up with a game plan, GSP did what GSP Does he DRY HUMPED and held down the opponent for the duration of the fight…

IF, and I do repeat IF, Trigg beats Koscheck I think he will fight Alves next. Otherwise, loser of Swick and Kampman.

I’m confused. I can’t find the excuse. Was it "I have nothing to say, he was better than me that night and now I have to go back to my training and work hard to get this belt."? Maybe “St. Pierre is a great fighter, fought very well”? Nevermind I got it. It was the part about a striking coach being gone and his timing being off. Yeah that’s crazy talk, what a tool! Guess he would have been better off saying

http://www.ultimate-fighter.ca/Forum/viewtopic.php?pid=80585

Thought this was a very interesting radio interview with George St. Pierre. He answers some questions that we were all asking about his fight. Some interesting points:

-He said he had a knee injury, and only trained two weeks for his fight with Serra.
-If his opponent have been Matt Hughes he would have postponed the fight.
-Said that he thought he could beat Matt Serra regardless.
-He basically had no human contact until the following Monday morning, when he was already back in the gym training.

Theres some really good stuff in this interview. Everyone needs to check it out. Click on the link below and then go about halfway down the page to a link that says :"George St. Pierre with “Showdown” Joe".

heres the link: http://www.fan590.com/features/hotaudio.jsp

Alves should step up and give some real excuses like any of these fine choices. Saying the best fighter in the world beat you fair and square and your striking couldn’t get a rhythm because your head striking coach left camp suddenly 3 months out is such a d!ck move. Everyone want him to say he will never beat GSP and stop saying he lost fair and square? Wow I hate those guys who learn from fights too. I hope GSP only hurt his groin and it wasn’t anything else, all the people hangin from your sack could screw some stuff up. YIKES! Just in case any of the “ALVESHADZEROTAKEDOWNDEFENSE” people weren’t watching I think he stuffed 5 or 6. I don’t know though maybe someone else stuffed GSP’s takedowns and thats who I’m remembering? Well if it wasn’t Alves then I’m stumped because I’m positive nobody else stuffed any. Alves, what a dick! lol

I didnt read anything past the first two posts. ( no disrespect to anyone) just to long. So dont flame if Im repeating. Im gonna say Serra is far underestimated. Granted he lost to Hughes. Witch was a huge split decision. I honestly gave it to Serra. I think hes a top guy in the division. Not number 1 contender by any means. But up there. Id love to see an Alves vs Fitch fight. Id go for Fitch for the win again. But who knows. Maybe a Kampmann v Alves fight. Or a serra vs Fitch. Just a few fights for the top guys. Hughes I dont think will ever be in contention again with the new young breed of mma. Let alone the WW div of the UFC. Its deep.

Also on a sidenote. I know Hughes has called out A. Silva before. Id be much more impressed if he dropped a class and beat a fighter than if he went up a class and beat someone. If Silva gets passed griffen then defends his title aginst Hendo. Id love to see him drop to WW and fight even someone like…..Hardy. or condit. Id be SO much more impressed. Cut the weight and still dominate.

Man so many gsp haters. Alls y’all needs to do is learns the sport to kno gsp does not dry hump, he let’s y’all barely escape with your life. Ha ha he is insane. Its actually scary how talented and above and beyond he is. Sorry I’m talking Kentucky for the newbies or non gsp fans cuz u gotta be a putz to not kno he IS MMA! Whoop whoop go pierre!

I think only man that can probably possibly beat gsp nowadays is koscheck.
Only reason for that is cus koscheck has best wrestling in ww besides gsp.
(Don’t get me wrong id say gsp can win many ways)
But if kos has chance…
Koscheck needs to go back to roots and shoot dynamic and stall out a decision, sure it would be very difficult and a boring match but its possible. I give him maybe 35% chance of that happening.
In the first fight kos chose to do stupid mistakes, and like fitch said he stopped training wrestling which was bad mistake. Who knows but to beat gsp u need world class wrestling. Not a kos fan at all but yea.

I’ll add to this mess of cup envy. First so I don’t get a lot of the “if i could only be red spandex fight shorts for a day” guys jamming me up for being delusional, I’d like to say for sure GSP won 5 rounds and kept the fight where he wanted it. I think he is the lb for lb best. The guys who pointed out it doesn’t even read like an excuse, way to read guys that’s impressive apparently. Everyone else take off the Kyokushin bandana, stop trying to read through the cup ventilation holes, and actually read what the guy says. I don’t even think any of the guys who posted before me defended Alves and got blasted, just pointed out what was actually written and said in the interview. I have no clue how "I have nothing to say, he was better than me that night and now I have to go back to my training and work hard to get this belt." and “The only problem that I had in my preparation for this fight is that I wasn’t with my Muay Thai coach, with whom I train for the last three years. He had to go away three months ago and I missed him a lot. I felt out of timing in the fight” was taken as an excuse. Alot of guys have days they just couldn’t find a rhythm, that’s a reflection on what they did wrong not why they lost. That’s why the rest of the response from Alves he talks about learning a lot from the fight and finding a lot of things he needs to fix in training. What an excuse your head striking trainer suddenly has to leave 3 months out and your timing is a little off. I can’t believe this guy compliments GSP, never says 1 bad thing about him, and only says he needs to work on things and people are acting crazy like he is saying the complete opposite. I guess if you fight GSP don’t get interviewed after because if you answer the questions asked you might aswell act like a tool and go to court with mommy.

brendan

jeez get your panties in a bunch there jonny? gsp has never made a single excuse for any of his losses… and alves saying "I saw what the best fighter in the world has at his best" is just ignorant, the guy had a pulled groin for cyring out loud

FOR PEOPLE LIKE brenden WHO THOUGHT SERRA VS GSP2 WAS GSP’S DEBUT FIGHT, HERE IS A LITTLE TREAT. YOUR AWESOME BRO, KEEP THOSE AMAZING RESPONSES COMING. TO MAKE IT WORSE THE GUY THAT YOU RESPONDED TO ACTUALLY HAD HIS FACTS STRAIGHT. SO HERE YOU GO, ILL ALSO LET YOU KNOW THE EASTER BUNNEY DOESN’T EXIST. WE WILL GET IT ALL OUT OF THE WAY IN 1 SHOT FOR YA BRO LOL. AND HERE YOU GO…

http://www.ultimate-fighter.ca/Forum/viewtopic.php?pid=80585

Thought this was a very interesting radio interview with George St. Pierre. He answers some questions that we were all asking about his fight. Some interesting points:

-He said he had a knee injury, and only trained two weeks for his fight with Serra.
-If his opponent have been Matt Hughes he would have postponed the fight.
-Said that he thought he could beat Matt Serra regardless.
-He basically had no human contact until the following Monday morning, when he was already back in the gym training.

Theres some really good stuff in this interview. Everyone needs to check it out. Click on the link below and then go about halfway down the page to a link that says :"George St. Pierre with “Showdown” Joe".

heres the link: http://www.fan590.com/features/hotaudio.jsp

and

dtoto

kobajack the silly thing about your statement is gsp beat him at half strenght, and he is way more athletic, stronger, faster, more reach than alves, gsp is going to improve at a much faster rate than alves, so no trex armed alves will never beat gsp, the gap will just keep growing, and if they fight again gsp will beat him even worse

TOOL, TOOL, TOOL. You find me a link that says GSP was 50% for the fight. I can’t wait to see it. The injury occurs in the 4th when he is swept and Thiago attempts to pass guard. GSP admits he didn’t want to stand with Alves because Alves standup was superior. Also GSP says maybe 100 times Alves is bigger and stronger. It doesn’t make him any less of an amazing fighter, its just facts guy. Your point about people improving, yeah because older fighters always do better in the sport. lol couture yes, most no. He is closer to topping out then Alves is. Am I saying Alves will ever beat him no, I’m saying don’t be a tool and hit those keys for the sake of wasting space.

Quick facts for everyone else:

GSP did not hurt his groin halfway through the fight or in the 3rd or start with the injury or any other way you would like to say it. He hurt it in the 4th after he was swept by Thiago and was on bottom and Alves pushed off to attempt to pass guard. Watch the DANA WHITE BLOG GSP says that’s when it happened in the fight. Yes GSP said the 3rd in the post fight, but he mentions it in between the 4th and 5th to Jackson and tells Dana in his blog. He fought 1 round with it. Very impressive still but not for 2 1/2 hrs like most would like to say.

Thiago defended 4 takedowns, was taken down 8 times, got back to his feet 7 times. The 2nd round he ended on his back. Tell me who has defended more? Not any of the top ranked fighters, 2 of whom are all american wrestlers.

GSP’s point of why he didn’t want to stand with Alves was shown very well up until the 3:20 mark of the 3rd, when GSP got it back to the ground. Might be another reason Alves see’s some good even in the loss.

3:07 of the 4th GSP was swept onto his back. 1st time in 3 yrs, again not by the elite all american wrestlers, and before the groin was injured. Injury happened soon after. Also GSP was there longer then ever before.

Basically yes GSP was dominant all 5 rounds, but nobody including Thiago is denying that. He is the #2 WW in the world who else do you think he wants to fight? His wrestling has come a long way in a short amount of time since the Fitch fight and he just lost to the best out there. The guy said he has stuff to work on and repeatedly calls GSP the best in the world. Why aren’t people gaining respect instead of losing it? That’s the kind of comments you look for in fighters. Respectful to the guy who just beat them, and only excuse is he needs to patch some holes in his training. Bash the people who want judging changed, or do everything except get a slot on Judge Judy, or took their opponents lightly (especially that last if it comes up 5 or 6 times), but don’t slam the guys who give credit and seem humble by the situation. GSP is awesome, I agree, but at this rate all the people posting stuff like this should feel lucky it was just a pulled groin and not something worse. You almost caused your hero to be out of competition a lot longer then he would have been with this pulled groin. You get that many people hanging from your sack, super sack or not, a serious injury is bound to occur. YIKES!

U guys need to chill some times,I’m a huge fan and am on mmajunkie,mania,playground,weekly and ufc.com religiously,but refuse to post cuz u guys r brutal..if u misspell u get crucified,if u have a different opinion or favorite fighter people hate on u and if some dude wants to use caps he’s the anti christ

Great picture! Is this the moment when GSP dropped him you guys think? Lay and pray my ass! I’m glad St-Pierre didn’t submit him with that rear naked choke in the first round, that way we got to see how dominant he could once again be. If Couture could still be champion at his age, imagine how long GSP could be champion. 10 years? 15 years? Do I hear 20 years?

Wow, look at that pic! When did St. Pierre fight Golum? My precious………

10 years of Dry HUMPING OOO HHH LORD :(

He’s almost as bad as Sherk when it comes to finishing fights and he even has better sub skills than Sherk! P4P? What a joke.

LOL to the haters, “the dry humper” made his last 3 opponents face look like hamberger after the fight…ya real lay and pray, its called “ground and pound”, since you don’t understand MMA terms. LOL, the above picture is another lay and pray shot too eh?….that dropped the best striker in the welter welt division, and also out struck his last 6 opponents standing, not bad for a lay and pray fighter. He also finished three of them, not bad either for a boring decision fighter. Something tells me the gsp haters on here bet big time against him on his last 2 or 3 fights and lost big time, sorry for your loss but face reality gsp is the most well rounded fighter in the world, deal with it.

Yea what a world class fighter. One who can’t finish a top ranked WW and has to grease to gain an advantage…