lots of us said that

Who cares who said it, I just want to see Tito get man handled by the LHWs in the UFC and show him why he’s no longer a relavant force. Man Tito is just like herpes. btw this could all be Tito hype and he will probably not sign with the UFC. He will hold a press anouncment to let us all know he could be on the UFC 115 card and then never sign to be on the card. lol this guys still a chump!

I’ll believe it when Dana says

Bad fight for Rich; thats probably where everyone will see just how undersized he is at 205.

I’d bet dimes to dollars Chuck has requested this…

Yea there’s no doubt, Dana’s sittin there on the phone with Tito sayin he’s sorry but he’s really thinking “Damn, I’d love to see Chuck knock him out again; I can’t get enough, yea come sign with the UFC again d-bag. You can be the catalyst to reinvigorating Chucks Carreer.”

And by his own admission Dana picked Machida for Tito fight knowing it was a bad match up for him, so does this mean that Joe Silva’s new job will be to pick fighters that match up well against Tito Ortiz??

This is great news if Tito and Franklin fight at 103. This would be great! I truly hope so. We’ll see soon enough.

Just like you called the Bisbing fighting for the title a year ago? How did that work out?

I am a fan of Tito and would love this to happen, but when you are dealing with 2 men that have emotional outburst on par with a 3 year old, I wouldn’t be so fast to say I told you so. BTW, hasn’t Tito said he will be fighting for every organization under the sun this past year? I will believe it when I see it.

sorry BNF, but it’s a bad example. For Bisping to fight for the title, he had to win, I thought he would. This is from a business stand point (the Tito prediction) which I have a better track record in predicting! The business stuff is easier (for me) to predict than fights, usually I pick the fighter I like (pick with my heart not my head) where in the business predictions I predict what will make sense! It doesn’t matter, I was THE ONLY one to say this would happen, was berated and expected no one to say good call! You guys are like a bunch of girls who only pick out the few things I predict wrong rather than give me props! Hey, whatever makes you feel better at the end of the day right!

I’m also a fan of tito…he pressence in the UFC would be similar to Brock’s…he sells mostly because people want to see him lose. What boggles my mind is that all the Tito haters or “Taters” say they don’t care about Tito in the UFC but yet they can’t help but comment on how bad he is or how good he USED to be…Can’t wait to hear Intro’s take on this.

LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT BASTARD’S HEAD… ITS SOOOOOO BIG!

good post mac. No matter if you like him or not, he beat Rashad and almost beat Machida, pretty impressive considering the surgery he needed! I’m a fan, but think he needs to focus on fighting and not promoting himself so much! If he concentrates on fighting like he used to, the LHW division may have another contender!

WAR TATERS!!!

I was just bustin balls Kevin. In this case I hope you are right.

I will LMFAO if Tito is back in the UFC this fall. What a circus.

Tito vs. Ace would be a sweet matchup. I would personally love it. I think Rich would have a real hard time defending Tito’s takedowns and GnP. But on the feet Rich has a good chance of ending Tito’s comeback in an ugly fashion.

Tito will kill Rich!! thank god!

Good point Kevin

I still don’t think Tito will be anything more then a gatekeeper, but this would be a good move for the UFC.

Lorenzo seems to have the powers of persuasion. I’m impressed.

LOL Kevin. Please. Besides Can Shamrock, Tito hasn’t ‘killed’ or even TKO’d anybody since 2001 – and that was Elvis Sinosic! 2001, Kevin! Bush had just begun his first term! BWA-HAHAHAHAHA!!!

They call me Tater Salad.

> No matter if you like him or not, he beat Rashad and almost beat Machida …

Kevin, get your facts straight. The fight between Tito and Rashad was a draw. If Tito had not had a point taken from him for illegally holding the fence for the 3rd time in round 2, Rashad would have won the decision 29 to 28. Tito squeaked by with a draw, and only because he clearly cheated. Rashad was robbed of that victory because Tito is a jackass.

He almost beat Machida? What fight were you watching? Machida didn’t take any damage in that fight whatsoever! Tito took plenty of damage! You may not like Machida’s style … but Tito was no where close to winning that fight.

-Zed

Way to stand up to the Machine, Tito. He’s been talkin shit about the UFC this whole time. Sayin’ he’ll never return while Dana’s the prez and he wanted to stand up for fighter’s rights re: payments. Tito is fake, leave him with Strikeforce or Affliction. Let them sign him to a multi-fight deal and watch it bomb.

Tito almost beat Machida??

People hype that triangle as if Machida got saved by the bell or his head was purple. Machida can go a week without sleep and lay in Tito’s guard for another week and still not get sub’d.

I’d say that I prefer Tito not in the UFC because he is more than likely going to tie up the main event in more cases than not. BUT with the likes of Swick/Kampmann currently headlining the card, I suppose I can’t complain.

Its quite obvious that Rich will pick Tito apart on the feet. Like all of his fights, its going to come down to – can Tito get the takedowns.

I’ve been away for the most part since UFC 100. HOLY HENDERSON!!!!!!!!!!

why risk it…what if Tito starts winning…Dana would rather suffer through Tito’s wins/losses rather than chance another org gaining ground…Smart business and anyone with 1/2 a brain here will agree

Why does everyone want props? especially in this case when Tito DID leave the UFC and is now coming back… maybe. Can you tell me when the UFC is going to break into the Japan market? How about if Affliction will fold? and when? Seriously lets look at the things that count here, and Tito didn’t beat Rashad. When you grab the cage like a chump afraid to go to the ground then you are preventing the other fighter the chance to beat you at his game. Tito is a chump and deserved the point deduction. I really hope he lands in the UFC and is ktfo by Rich!

Violent Mike. Tito had Machinda in a tight triangle, it’s a fact. Machida admitted it was real tight. If you see the fight, Machida was floppin around like a fish out of water. If Machida wasn’t in trouble he would just sit there and wait it out. Jon Fitch has been in some chokeholds and he just sits there cuz he’s tough to choke.

ZED, my facts are straight, and I realize it was a draw, due to a point deduction, hence my assumption that tito won minus 1 point which made the fight a draw. Yes, I see your point, but I was referencing that fight to make my point.
He did almost beat Machida, I didn’t realize almost beating someone was based on damage done! I’ve seen plenty of chokes and arm locks used to win, yet the winner looked in a lot worse shape after the fight…did they really win or was I in some type of bizzaro world?

Props to Kevin. I do remember him calling this the day that tito left the Ufc.

Rich FrANKLIN WOULD BATTER HIM AND i HAVE TO ADMIT THAT i WOUYLD LOVE TO SEE IT!

In the case of your example, I would have to say that someone who punches someone really hard and rocks them almost beat the guy. But I don’t think anyone sees it that way. Unless I’m missing something, almost is not quite and is never a reason to consider a fighter. The question you have to ask yourself is could he put Machida in that position again? When he fought Rashad it was a joke match and Rashad wasn’t expected to win, yet Rashad still made Tito look silly as well. So do you think in a rematch Tito could beat Rashad? Actually I’m pretty sure if Tito gets into the UFC again we’d get to see him fight AND lose to Rashad convincingly. So your points are moot and Tito is Mr. Irrelavant.

Kevin, unless you’re a massive Tito sackrider, if someone asked you what happened in the Machida/Ortiz fight, you wouldn’t reply “Oh, Tito almost beat Machida”.

You’d say something like, “Tito was completely out-classed for 14 minutes and got dropped and almost KO’d with a sweet flying knee. He didn’t land a strike on Machida the entire fight and, amazingly, was even out-grappled. Then in the last minute, Tito almost secured a triangle, but Machida escaped.”

Definitely know what everyone’s saying, but I’d say Tit ALMOST beat Rashad but he got his a$$ handed to him by Machida with the lone exception of a desperation sub attempt off his back in the final minute of a completely one side fight.

Belcher almost beat Akiyama.

I wouldn’t say Thiago Silva almost beat Fitch. I’d say Fitch dominated him with the exception of being stuck in a choke for most of the first round – which Silva won and he landed multiple strikes. That is more than Tit can say against Machida, he didn’t win a round, and he didn’t land multiple strikes. I think he might have connected once.

Also, when a fighter almost beats another fighter, logically that would mean that they would have a good chance at winning a rematch, since they almost won the first fight.

Jacob and Machida could fight 100 times and I would take -300 odds that Machida goes 100 – 0. Tit has nothing to offer against Machida. No one has been able to connect cleanly on Machida and Tit’s standup is awful. Go for the takedown? Everytime he did, he got tossed around like a gradeschooler.

guys, I’m far from a “tito nut rider” i’m just stating facts. he got dominated for 14 minutes by machida, yet was seconds from victory! He beat Rashad (except for the point deduction) and would do it again! If tito comes back near 100% hell be a good fighter. I remember the last time Tito was healthy, he held the title a long time, I’m not predicting he’ll do that again, but cmon guys, love him or hate him, he’s a cardio machine, great at GnP, and overall still relevant in the UFC LHW division…if healthy!

Have you ever considered Ortiz would have lost the round if he would have given up takedowns to Rashaad into of holding the fence? He hasn’t won (Draws and almosts don’t count) since 06. And two of those wins were against Shamrock. Come on, what makes you think the guy has a shot to win against top 10 LHWs when he hasn’t won a fight in over 3 years?

No way that Franklin could knock out Ortiz. I’d bet that any day. Tito hasn’t fought in over a year so that is a long layoff for him. I would hope that he comes back stronger than ever. It would be nice to see him make waves in the lhw division. Tito stated that he would be able to fight by August of 2009. It would be crazy to see him step back into the octagon.

Tito DID leave the UFC.

nobody in the UFC’s LHW division would knock Tito out and certainly not Rich Franklin if anything Tito would knock him out with his brutal GnP, you have to be high as a mountain to think that Rich could even hurt him…
Tito won over Forrest at 50% and won over Evans, what more do you want? ok he’s not a knockout artist i know that but he gives the fans entertaining fights, and he’s been fighting the best in the UFC…

the stupid mofo that doesn’t think Tito would beat Forrest and Rashad again should shoot himself…

Finally! RoB weighs in with some unbiased and reasonable Tito copmments!

;-)

Lol Rob I betchya your so salty cause you been sucking on Tito’s nutz.

I bet you are about to cry, cause Dana couldn’t keep him out anymore… too many fans including haterz on Tito’s side!.. I might be biased to you but that’s because you’re a hater

i like french fried taters..mmm hmmm..
tito the person picks my ass..tito the fighter (well he did make a good coach on tuf) he is tough, but not complete..but yeah..he sells fights..be it for good or bad reasons.

what a circus this would be having cock lesnar, bimbo and dito ortiz…add lashley please..so that we can finally kiss the hope of earning respect for the sport goodbye..

Yeah, Kevin is probably won of those who thinks Arlovski almost beat Fedor.

no, he was winning the round, but the inevitable happened. Tito had a tight triangle, what more do you guys want? He got dominated for 14 minutes and nearly choked him out, period. Almost doesn’t mean shit, point is, when healthy he could be a force in the division… since when he was injured he was giving top competition decent challenges!

Oh shit, forgive me for substituting “won” for “one” — LOL

lol, I laughed kobajack, didn’t notice the spelling 1st time

Tito had a locked in triangle, that is close to winning no matter what happened in that fight!

rob?: I love you bro, but to say anything other than TITO GOT DOMINATED BY MACHIDA is simply delusional!

Well, gentlemen, I love to watch Tito fight! He’s clearly my favorite fighter! He does come across as a jacka@@ most of the time. But, behind every jacka@@ is a Jenna! The guy has a big heart and does a lot of cool stuff, especially for kids. Keep in mind, Tito’s strong suit was always his ability to take someone down and keep them there while pounding the sh1t out of them. I’ve had lower back surgery and personally, I have no idea how some of these guys can even train hard much less fight, with an injured back! It’s core strength that enables you to use your stregth and balance to do nearly anything! Especially, take some down or throw ko punches, kicks, etc. If he is fixed, I expect great things from his fights!

I know what you mean, Kevin, I think it’s just the contrast between getting dominated for 14 minutes and “almost beating Machida” that doesn’t seem right.

Machida seemed like he was in trouble but the thing with submissions is you either get submitted or you don’t, and he didn’t, so I wouldn’t say he almost beat Machida.

For example, if you say Fighter A almost knocked out Fighter B, it would imply that Fighter A connected and rocked Fighter B and almost won because of it; but if Fighter A threw a haymaker which would have knocked Fighter B out if it had hit him, but Fighter B ducked it, then you wouldn’t say Fighter A almost knocked out Fighter B because he missed entirely.

Submission attempts are almost the equivalent of a punch that misses. Although the difference is that submission attempts should accrue some points at least (if the judges aren’t f—king retarded).

That’s the way I see it anyway. I could throw up more examples but this frickin post is long as it is.

Now, don’t flame the f—k out of me for comparing a submission to a punch, of course there’s a difference, I’m just trying to put it in context.

It’s not like tito attempted to get him in a submission and it didn’t get locked in. He had the submission tight. Lyoto flopping around is more equivalent to being rocked by a solid punch over a fighter throwing a haymaker if you ask me.

oh definitely cause he hit it, he just couldn’t finish..

yeah Rashad too, Dana even admitted that he thought Tito won…

tito coleman would be sick, and have some value as the older guys from the ufc kind of a historical fight for them, i’d like tito vs rashad rematch so he can shut that bitch rashad up

Rashad would absoultely destroy Tito in a rematch. Rashad came in that fight in awe of Tito…similar to when GSP fought Hughes the first time and he came out flat to begin with. Had Tito not held onto the fence multiple times in the 2nd round…Rashad would have won that round by taking him down and doing what he did in the 3rd which was landing some nice elbows to end that fight.

tito had a spinal and a knee injury in that fight.. if rashad is as good as people say how did machida absolutely demolish him? he landed a lucky shot on chuck and forrest broke his damn hand..

tito will destroy rashad after rampage does, then he will bring back rampage,bring in bisping,and add a couple of other friends to train with and be a force again, sure rampage and bispings own camps will be in the UK for there fights but they will do a double camp setup and watch tito comeback and be a legit contender..

i see tito beating franklin,he’ll dispose of cane easily,and slaughter in brutal fashion thiago silva,and keith jardine.. so now does that not make him top10? i bet he makes it top5 again by the end of 2010 and gets a title shot

Wow, somebody’s had their crystal ball out!

yeah I have to admit I would rather see Tito/Coleman then Tito/Franklin. Battle of the older schools. I love it!

Put that on the same card with Couture-Nog, get Metamucil as a primary sponsor, and start it at 3:00 in the afternoon so we can get to bed at a reasonable hour, dammit!

PW Gold.

Tito/Coleman? Screw that. Tito/Franklin would be awesome. That’s the fight they gotta give. Come on now.

hey mania where’s my circus comment? what about my post having bimbo,tito and brock? isnt it great for the fans? roflmao…wwe fans by the way and there are 98% of them flooding this site..

Correction.

Split.

Yeah Mac they should bring back Frank Shamrock to coach against him. He could retire both Shamrock’s that would be great.

Too far mcarthur

really?? I’ve gone way farther than that before…its Friday…quit pissing on my parade ;)

lol

LMAO

thx jay…missed your question yesterday but read it today…went to both shows in Montreal you?? Where in Ontario you from?? I

Mac went to both and live in Brantford. Home of the great one!

cool…we’ll have to hook up in T.O next year when the UFC comes

I’ve visited family in Brantford. Brick houses and a lot of yawns.

I wish I had the extra cash… I need to buy mine today.

Mac I say more than 50. Give him Liddell again, I bet Tito beats him this time.

Slight chance against Forrest. Considering he already beat him its better than slight. Shogun would have a tough time with tito as well. Tito would maul jardine. Bonnar would have no chance at all with tito. Tito would outwork coleman.

There is absolutly nothing in it for Chuck to fight him again. I highly doubt that will ever happen.

If Tito was really fighting hurt for the past few years and the back surgury really did what is was supposed to do. Maybe he comes back reinvigorated and tears it up?

You guys are smoking moon rocks if you think Tito, even on his best days will ever beat Chuck. I think Tito is a good fighter but Chuck just has his number. The same as Rampage has Chucks. It just won’t happen

You guys are smoking moon rocks if you think Tito, even on his best days will ever beat Chuck. I think Tito is a good fighter but Chuck just has his number. The same as Rampage has Chucks. It just won’t happen

Have you seen Chuck lately?

moon rocks?? huh…might have try one of those…expensive I bet.

Helluva commute to get one!

Forrest, Rashad, Jardine and some of the younger fighters are all getting better and are different fighters from the first time they faced Tito. Tito is the same old dog he’s always been, only now after back surgery and a long lay-off. That’s why Tito’s chances of beating those guys is significantly lower than before.

interesting…