UFC Quick Quote: Shane Carwin ready for Cain Velasquez at UFC 104
by Jesse Holland on Jul 16, 2009 11:09 AM EDT
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"The scouting report on Cain is that he is well rounded and has an unlimited gas tank. He is an aggressive fighter who posses a ton of skill. Cain is a legitimate contender and I hope that winner gets a shot. I think my striking is an advantage but honestly you never know until you are in the cage. A good example was when Gabe took me down, we had drilled that situation so many times that it was like second nature getting back to my feet. You kind of go on auto pilot when the cage door closes. That is why a lot of guys say pre-fight 'I am going to stand and bang' and they’re shot as soon as a single leg happens. You’re not thinking about your interviews or promises made to your fans. Your going over your game plan and looking for those situations your coaches told you would be there."
– Undefeated heavyweight behemoth Shane Carwin talks to Five Ounces of Pain about his preparations for fellow rising heavyweight prospect Cain Velasquez, who "The Engineer" will face at UFC 104 from the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California on October 24. With quick wins over Gabriel Gonzaga as well as Christian Wellisch and Neil Wain under the UFC banner, Carwin – who still works full-time for the North Weld County Water District in Colorado — is now seemingly on the brink of a title shot. The only thing standing in his way is the equally talented wrestler out of AKA -- who has his own plans for securing a future heavyweight title shot.
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Unless cain has improved his striking significantly, I have to pick Carwin in this fight.
by Dragon on Jul 16, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This has to be the real number 1 contender fight. No more title shots for Randy or Nog. At least until they beat someone other than eachother.
by jay on Jul 16, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why wouldnt Randy deserve a shot if he beats Nog? Since his comeback he would be 3-1 with his only loss coming to the very guy he would be rematching, that right there should warrant his rematch, sorry Jay but your logic seems based on the fact that you are sick of old school, and not who deserves the shot
by Dave on Jul 16, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The most appealing fight to me that the UFC could possibly book involving Brock is against Carwin.
If Couture beats Nog, he will probably get the next title shot because the title shot would be Randy’s last fight on his contract and if he upsets brock, randy will get locked back into the championship clause, keeping him from jumping ship and fighting Fedor in affliction.
If Randy loses to brock again, Randy will be damaged goods and Fedor vs. couture would have lost its thunder.
I wonder if Couture would even accept a title shot as his last fight or would he decline it, get his last fight over with and chase Fedor in affliction.
A great question to Couture that all these crappy mma interviewers today should be asking Randy is:
What is more important to you Randy? getting a rematch with Brock, and a chance at becoming uFC champion again? or finally fighting Fedor for his Wamma title?
Now THATS A GREAT QUESTION THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR RANDY ANSWER!
by John G on Jul 16, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Dave, my logic is based on the fact that Randy has to retire soon. Are they going to make another interim belt when he is gone? Could he beat Brock? Could he beat Cain or Carwin? Which comeback are you speaking of, he’s had a few. Every time he wins a fight he gets a title shot, I thing that boat has sailed, sure he is a nice guy sometimes but why give 45 year old men title shots, there isn’t a future in it.
by jay on Jul 16, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You say ‘interim belt’ as if Randy would actually beat Lesnar. He would just get dumped on his head and pounded again.
by PW on Jul 16, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PW, that was a what if. I think the second fight would be over quicker than the first. That is why they can’t have Brock-Couture 2.
by jay on Jul 16, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. There’s really nothing compelling about this fight.
by PW on Jul 16, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Randy didn’t get “dumped on his head” against Brock though. He showed that despite the size disadvantage, his wrestling skills are second to none.
by Kobajack on Jul 16, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good post John. I think the winner of Nog/Methuselah should get the winner of Cro-Cop/Dos Santos. Whoever wins that gets the shot after Carwin (yes, I think Carwin will wreck Cain). But you’re right about Randy’s contract. What if Randy beat Brock the second time though, and retired champ then fought Fedor elsewhere? Seems risky for Dana to ggive Lesnar a fight with anyone who’s contract is about to expire.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 16, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I love watching these HW fights, CroCop v Dos Santos could be amazing too. I am hoping that dos santos is the HW version of a machida and silva – they do train his stand-up after all, and his BJJ teacher is Nog, doesn’t get much better than that as far as coaching. He is undefeated in his kickboxing career and clearly has KO power and speed on his side. Cant wait – if Cro Cop can stop Dos Santos that huge respect to him, if Dos Santos can KO Cro cop then its into the top tier for him. Needless to say this is a pivotal match for both and is almost guaranteed fireworks on the feet. This is a great test for Cigano to prove himself.
Anyone still on the fence about Dos Santos – he is a well rounded vicious wrecking machine – have a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNT2V-kiJk0&feature=channel_page
Striking, takedowns and subs? Check!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is5A5znBTaY&feature=channel
by paniczoo on Jul 16, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has to be. I’ve been riding with Carwin since I seen him knock out Wellisch at UFC 84. I think this fight might go to a decision (as some No.1 contender fights do i.e. Stevenson/Pellegrino, Cote/Almeida), but I predict Carwin to finish him in the 1st round
by Synyster on Jul 16, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you’re right. I like Cain well enough. But I want Shane to do well both because he is a “regular guy” with a full time job and because he KO’d one of my favorite fighters, Napao.
by wAyNe on Jul 16, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could have swore I read somewhere that Shane very recently quit his job. Dude is a beast now, imagine if he trained full time? Scary.
by WB on Jul 16, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I root for brown pride, he will have the crowd on his side so I’m sure that will pump him up.
by MikeD on Jul 16, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see a way for Cain to win unless he out wrestles Carwin which will be a feat for either to completely outwrestle the other and that stupid ass brown pride thing is dumb as hell. Let’s see what happens if Brock or even funnier yet Heath Herring got White Power tatted across his chest hahaha.
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 16, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
The double standard regarding that tattoo is fcking pissing me off.
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 16, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like the spoon feeding is over for these prospects. the ufc babied these 2 as long as they could
by deuce 4 on Jul 16, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wont! Carwin has better standup, wrestling’s a toss up and Carwin is just plain bigger! If Cain should get him down you think Carwins gonna lie there like a beached whale like Kongo did? Cain couldn’t finish a guy with zero ground game in Kongo so what chance of him finishing Carwin?
Carwin has brutal KO power and a devastating gnp, he wins this any way he wants!
by attakdog on Jul 16, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown Pride couldn’t take a punch from Kongo, and he sure as hell won’t be able to take one from Carwin. Then Brown Pride won’t be able to hold on grapple his way to a recovery like he did against Cheick “upside down turtle” Kongo.
by PW on Jul 16, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The key to him taking Kongo’s punches was the fact that he could take him down at will and lie on him till he stopped seeing stars. With Carwin that aint gonna be an option!
by attakdog on Jul 16, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with some things but, ther are a couple that make me scratch my head? 1. Wrestling is a toss up? Cain is hands down a better wrestler. 2. couldnt stop finish Kongo? How many people have? If im not mistaken he has only been finished one time in his career, and that was a few years ago. Im picking Carwin, because I like his power, but Cain is a great fighter, and I wouldnt mind seeing either of these guys as the number contender.
by lokie on Jul 16, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Brown Pride hands down a better wrestler? Carwin was a national champion or All-American or something else that I’m too lazy to look up. And I don’t think anyone is knocking Brown Pride’s inability to finish Kongo; just that Kongo rocked him several times, and only Brown Pride’s ability to get the takedown and rest in top position saved him from a TKO. When Carwin rocks him (that’s when, not if) he won’t be able to get an easy takedown on a pathetic grappler and recover.
by PW on Jul 16, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So true PW. I am criticising his inability to finish though. You think if Fedor, Carwin and Brock had the same positions on Kongo and reigned down as many punches then they wouldn’t have been able to finish him either??? I think not!
by attakdog on Jul 16, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock? The same guy that couldnt finish Herring? I know he just pounded Mir but im not sold he has anything more than freak athletic ability and wrestling. And PW I am saying IMO that vasquez is a better wrestler based n he is an ncaa D 1 All American twice compared to Carwin who wrestled at a D2 school. Its just an opinion, but I think if Carwin were to try and wrestle Cain he losses 9 times out of 10
by lokie on Jul 16, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are lot of people very impressed with Shane Carwin. Count me one of them.
He is the breed of MMA professional that I hope catches on.
Being from the business world I sure like his “tone”. That being said I don’t know anyone from IBM or Bank of America
that could hang with this monster.
His G N P is 1st class and I think that will be the difference maker. I see Cain making this a contest but Carwin can deal more damage standing or from the guard. And I do think he hits harder the Kongo which will pose a problem for Cains ability to recover if he gets tagged.
Carwin by tko in the 3rd round.
by Big Zino on Jul 16, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am not a huge HW fan but I gotta say this is something I am really looking forward to. War CARWIN!!!
by neeko on Jul 16, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cain will walk right into one of his bombs. He goes to sleep in the first round.
Watch!
by MXN on Jul 16, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carwin by Submission; Next stop Borock!!!
by neeko on Jul 16, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope Carwin wins. I like to see Brock fight a bigger guy. But I have a question to, If Mir had over a year to get ready for this fight why did he come in at 245 lbs when he knew he was going to have to fight King Kong? With his skill level vs. Brocks the only thing he should have been thinking about is muscle milk and weights. Saying you would have done better if you added 10 more lbs. is the same thing as the Thiago camp saying he could have beaten GSP if it were not for the weight cut. Myself as a fan want to see the best prepared all around fighters take on the champions. Excuses for the fans after a championship fight at this level isn’t really acceptable in my opinion. But maybe I am asking to much.
by graymg1 on Jul 16, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cain is a fast wrestler with great takedowns and GREAT ground control, that being said, with Carwin, all it takes is half a punch to KO you into never neverland. If Kongo was able to rock Cain imagine what Carwin will do if he connects behind one of those right hand bombs! Cain’s only chance is to avoid being hit period by Carwin, take Carwin down and somehow control him there for 3 rounds to grind out a UD win.
by Chadx23 on Jul 16, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope Carwin wins, I’m not sold on Cain yet.
by The Buffalo on Jul 16, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Carwin…but his last few interviews (not really this one) it seems like he has got a big head…
by robbyc on Jul 16, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought that too. Hopefully he has, all the bigger for Brock to pound on.
by attakdog on Jul 16, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all. He seems really humble to me. Of course, he states his opinions with conviction but he’s pretty modest.
by Kobajack on Jul 16, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carwin does seem to have the right attitude.
by A Lynch on Jul 16, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about anybody else but I was more impressed with Cain winning the way he did when he fought Kongo compared to Carwin’s win over Gabe. Cain beats Carwin and then beats Brock, I’ve been saying that for months now. But if Randy gets past Nog then all this would be a mute point becuase Randy will be fighting Brock on Nov or Dec, which puts both of these fighters out of title contention intill March……
by Robert(1) on Jul 16, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carwin-Cain is a fight that I have been looking forward to for a long time, both guys match-up well with Brock and right now are the only 2 in the UFC that have a realistic chance of beating him. Cain is arguably a better wrestler than Brock and has better cardio in my opinion, plus has great striking. Carwin is a huge HW and one of the few guys that Lesnar won’t have a huge size advantage over plus he has KO power in his hands and has destroyed everyone who he has faced inside R1, plus his wrestling is also pretty good and he can get back to his feet quickly so will be hard to keep down. Brock is a monster but so is Carwin whilst Cain is a quality young HW with a huge reputation, both would be very dangerous fights for Brock.
For this fight, it could go two ways, either Carwin will get another quick KO as Cain’s weakness seems to be his chin and Shane has devastating punching power. If Kongo can rock Cain with a punch then Carwin could KO him. However, Carwin still has untested cardio as all of his fights have ended quickly and he hasn’t faced any adversity, the fact that he still works full-time means that he can’t train as hard and often as Cain, so if Cain can survive the inital onslaught, Carwin may punch himself out in which case Cain will grind out a decision with his superior wrestling and conditioning.
Whoever wins will be a more worthy challenger than either Randy or Nog at this point, although Lesnar-Carwin at this point would be more marketable because Shane has done a good job at hyping up a potential fight by playing to the fans, whilst Cain hasn’t said anything. That is why I’m hoping for Lesnar-Carwin but I’d be happy to see Brown Pride get his shot as well.
by David W-S on Jul 16, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope cain wins but carwin has a lot of power
by denniskuderjr on Jul 16, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As good as Cain is, I’d be surprised to see him get past Carwin. He looked in trouble the first time Kongo put some leather on him and he grabed the instant takedown. He can’t do that with Carwin. Given that they are both strong wrestlers, Carwin’s size is going to negate any advantage Cain might have there.
On their feet, you gotta give the edge to Carwin because he can end the fight with one punch. Cain’s only avenue to victory is his ‘unlimited’ gas tank. If he can wear out Carwin with a fast pace (tough in a 3 rounder) he could get him in a decision. I give Carwin a 70% chance of taking this.
Definitely think Lesnar/Carwin is the best UFC HW match-up. Wanna see someone test Brock’s chin and Carwin is the guy to do it. Battle of the Silverbacks!
by revjames13 on Jul 16, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am 100 percent mexican and rooting for Carwin. Not because of the brown pride tatt wich he probably got in high school for the sole purpose of getting hoes lol but beacuase Cain needs a lot of work in his striking game. I want to see Brock get KO’d like Bisping and Carwin has a way better chance that Cain. Yes i am a Cain fan aswell but i think he is still a little to green. Let the guy turn all that flab into muscle and get his stand up game at decent level and he will be a force, but not now.
PS shogun will be new LHW champ!
by Danny_c on Jul 16, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cain does need to work on his stand-up.
While I think Shogun is the best current match-up for Machida (save for AS), I don’t give him much of a shot at getting the W. Machida will out strike him and keep the fight from going to the ground.
by revjames13 on Jul 16, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty sure that Carwin has quit his job and is training full time now.
Aside from that, I think Nog will get the next shot as long as the Nog of old shows up and beats Randy. That would mean a chance for a big money fight for Randy against Machida, something he has said he is interested in. I know it would be hard on everyone at LHW that Randy steps down and gets ahot straightaway but this is the UFC.
UFC 105 is slated for earlier Nov and free on Spike. That leave the way clear for UFC 106 to happen one ot two weeks later in Vegas (UFC have often followed up a UK show with a US one immediately) with Nog/Brock as headline. That would leave the Carwin / Cain winner getting a shot in March or April next year.
by Casual fan on Jul 16, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just checked and UFC 106 is Nov 26th and that would be a good date for Brock vs Nog/Randy. It would be too soon to fight the winner of Carwin/Cain.
by Casual fan on Jul 16, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carwin will be a handful for Cain, I think Cain could get the job done but i have to pick Carwin by 1st rd ko, Kongo wreck cain on his feet and Carwin is to big to man handle like he did to Kongos no ground game ass.
by thebending on Jul 16, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
simple..
Cain VS Carwin = Winner Gets Brock
Loser Gets Mir
Nog VS Couture = Winner Gets CroCop/Cigaro
CroCop VS Cigaro = winner gets Nog/Couture
after That You do Kongo VS loser of one of those fight
by doumbret on Jul 16, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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