MMA Quick Quote: Fabricio Werdum plans to submit Alistair Overeem (again) on Aug. 15

by MMAmania.com on Jul 15, 2009 4:12 PM EDT Comment 28 comments

" ... the fight starts standing. I’ll train standing as on the ground, but I’ll give more emphasis to the ground. I like to train and fight standing, and it hasn’t that thing of taking the fight directly to the ground. It’s difficult to take Overeem to the ground. In the other time that we fought, I couldn’t give him any takedown, and he took me down five times, so I was forced to fight standing with him. The strategy is this, take to the ground as soon as possible and submit.... I know he’s heavier and stronger, but there is one thing: the stronger and heavier, the guy can get tired fast. In our other fight, he gave me a heat in the first round and began to get tired in the second. I can use this strategy too, just wait for him to get tired, but if I have how to finalize before, I will."

-- Chute Boxe-trained Brazilian jiu-jitsu specialist Fabricio Werdum talks strategy with Tatame.com for his upcoming fight against Strikeforce World Heavyweight Champion Alistair Overeem at "Carano vs. Cyborg" from the HP Pavillion in San Jose, Calif., on Aug. 15. "Vai Cavalo" holds a second round submission win over the hulk from Holland when they tangled at PRIDE: "Total Elimination Absolute" in May 2006. Will lightning strike twice one month from today or has the "Demolition Man" now just too much to handle?

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not much of a game plan seeing as how he’s admitting that he’s already tried it once and failed

by McArthur on Jul 15, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I know he’s already beat him but I was referring to the TD gameplan…

by McArthur on Jul 15, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How did the first fight go down?? And when was it? And where was it??

by Dragon on Jul 15, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pride in 2006. Werdum won by Kimura..

by johan-lofgren on Jul 15, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

McArthur, I meant to tell you that I did that post as “The McArthur”. No malicious intent, just messing around.☺

by James S on Jul 15, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

werdum is dead, alistair is a monster nowadays and werdum’s takedowns are basically nonexistent, as we saw against arlovski and dos santos

by brendan on Jul 15, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know about dead. Overeem has definitely improved over the years, but Werdum is top-notch when in shape. IMO- Allistar was an average LHW that has tranformed into a pretty good HW..

I think this will be a very competitive fight. If Werdum comes in all fat, Allistar should be able to keep it standing and KO him, but if Werdum comes in fit, I see him winning via submission..

This is going to be a good scrap! This fight should be the main event, but apparently the girl fight is more important to StrikeForce..

by Stagger-Lee on Jul 15, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

James S – none taken what-so-ever buddy…pretty funny actually

by McArthur on Jul 15, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it’s gonna be Overeem by horse-fueled rocket punch.

by rockwell on Jul 15, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im really confident that Werdum is going to win this figh

I am a big fan of Overeem, but he folds whenever facing top opposition. Since the last time they fought Werdum has improved his striking tremendously over at chute box closing the gap a little bit in the striking but Alistar should still have a significant advantage there.

Alistars ground game has improved but Werdum still outclasses him by a big margin.

werdum has more of an advantage on the ground than Alistar has standing.

Werdum will win the title!

by john on Jul 15, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unless Overeem straight up goes back to his old ways of completely unraveling during fights, he’s got this in the bag. Werdum’s takedowns are best from the clinch. To close that distance, it’s gonna be ugly. Their last fight, Overeem was just so gassed that he got white belt kimura’d from guard and didn’t even bother trying to escape. Now if he keeps his cardio up, this fight is his to lose.

by NameNotRequired on Jul 15, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Problem is that Alistar isnt SMART, and will likely clinch for Werdum, cause Alistar really likes the clinch. Alistar is so dumb, that he will close the distance for “Via Cavalo”

If Werdum were the favorite, I would still bet money on him, so how can I pass him up as a dog?

by JOhn G on Jul 16, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Overeem for sure but he has to keep it standing. I think he’ll be able to.

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 15, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not taking anything away from Fabricio but im not really hyped about this matchup. i would like to see Overeem where Yvel is now.

by MMA040 on Jul 15, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

dos antos knocked this guy into another time zone and overeem hits harder than that guy does. fabricio better realize really quickly that this isnt the same guy he fought a few years ago. i think overeem wins this one by assault and bettery.

by bobby o'shea on Jul 15, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and 1 + 1 = 2, but not in mma!

by John G on Jul 16, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My money’s on Werdum. Overeem always crumbles against top level competition.

Anybody else had this swine flu??? It’s knocked me for six!

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ouch, hope you got a mild case; I’ll say a prayer for you dog.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 15, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cheers dude. I’m a bit better today the tamiflu has kicked in, my temperatures not as high but I’ve still got a very nasty cough.

by attakdog on Jul 16, 2009 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

im sitting here wondering what brett rodgers has to say about this. wasnt he kinda promised a shot? undefeat and knocking a former champ, AA, silly would you give you a title shot im my opinion. not werdum considering he himself was knocked silly in his last fight. anyone else think its a bit unfair? and most fans dont even wana see this so its not like its a moneymaker match up

by wingblade on Jul 15, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Rogers is a bum.

Kimbo2.

by Lester The Pimp on Jul 15, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rogers has fought way better fighters then Kimbo, and smashed all of them.. Rogers has awesome takedown defense, heavy striking and deserves to be top 10..

by johan-lofgren on Jul 16, 2009 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wanna see this… Overeem fighting in the U.S.A. again finally, and if Werdum is in shape and on his game it could be a great fight.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 15, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Werdum coming into the fight in shape is crucial. My lingering memory was his flabby appearance at the weigh in prior to his knockout loss to Dos Santos. IN SHAPE, Werdum has the tools to make this a very interesting fight. Furthermore, it may shed better light on how much Overeem has upped his game the last couple years. I agree, solid fight on paper.

by CL on Jul 15, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is a great matchup but I think the biggest challenge Overeem has to face here is passing his drug test. Werdum’s standup is lacking and Overeem has doubled in size since their last meeting.

by stevo on Jul 15, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs