Frank Mir: 'Next time, I'll show him how somebody is supposed to act in victory'

Props: Las Vegas Review-Journal
Quoteworthy:
"I basically was (within) a half-an-inch of catching him. I knew he was hurt, but he had good leverage, with my shoulder against the cage. I made a stupid mistake. When I stood up, and he's screaming, it took me a few seconds to realize (what Lesnar was doing). ESPN showed him spitting and hollering. My children are looking. I'm shaking my head, pointing at my kids and going, 'That's not how you want to do it, guys. We'll be cocky, especially before a fight, to help sell it. I didn't degrade him [when I beat him at UFC 81] and say he was an idiot. There was no point to kick the guy while he was down. OK, I beat the guy. What, am I going to spit on you, too? If I can just nail that (weight) gap to even 10 pounds, it'll be a different fight next time. Hopefully next time, I'll show him how somebody is supposed to act in victory."
Former UFC Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir reacts unfavorably to the post-fight antics of Brock Lesnar following their main event clash at UFC 100 from the Mandalay Bay Events Center on July 11. Lesnar was not satisfied with a mere TKO victory in the biggest event in UFC history and made sure he got in the face of his fallen foe to get the last word in -- before flipping off the crowd and backstabbing Bud Light (UFC sponsor extraordinaire). Has Lesnar surpassed the abilities of Mir -- who may try to secure a rubber match with the champ? And is this a fight that fans would be interested in seeing?
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Believe me I don’t like Lesnar. But come on FRANK. “I was a half inch from catching him…I made a stupid mistake.”
EXCUSE, EXCUSE, EXCUSE. If you fought 10 times you would probably end up losing 9 of them. Maybe if they both agree to a 155 catch weight. (YES, I am kidding!)
Dude, you lost. You lost by a POUNDING!
by ATNIP on Jul 13, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Mir is incredible on the ground. BUT Lesnar is just TOO STRONG. Somebody will get him someday. Just as soon as someone can get him [Lesnar] on his back.
by ATNIP on Jul 13, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I didnt see Brock being a half inch away from catching him but whatever. I think Brock wins that fight 9/10 personally. Brock didnt conduct himself appropriately, but that pompous ass, Mir is the last person who should be talking!
Unless the UFC can sign Fedor, the only fighters with a chance at beating Brock, IMO are:
Carwin
Nogueira (depending on how he looks in the couture fight)
I would like to see frank Mir vs. Heath Herring next!
by john G on Jul 13, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love to see mir become a gym freak though! that would be interesting, I like the fact that he is looking for revenge.
we can see a third fight..
by shamo84 on Jul 13, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
ojr if you watch his fights he is real dangerous in the first 2 rounds after that he does fade but he has everything he needs to beat brock he is big fast powerfull good on the ground, with people like him and carwin it would be whoever landed first pretty much. yeah brock could beat them both but on any given night they could beat brock as well.
by roy on Jul 13, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW! Maybe Mir has been reading all the hate for Brock on the net, and now wants simpathy! Maybe what his kids will learn is not to poke an animal in a cage.
by JV on Jul 13, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
what is frank talking about……he wasnt respectfull after he beat brock….all he could do was talk about how much better he was
by JG on Jul 13, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
why are people chirpin brock gettin rocked by mir….thats what champs are made off… i dont like brock but if he gets rocked and takes the guy down ruight away and pounds him out…thats what ur supost to do
by JG on Jul 13, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Mir is entitled to have a certain amount of post-beating bravado – but I don’t believe for one second that he actually desires a third fight with Brock.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 13, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
IM with you JJ. He does not want another fight with Brock. Problem is that Mir isnt good and if he fights top guys he will lose…so he will be irrevelvant soon, and Brock will be one of the last big money fights available to frank, so he might have to fight him.
I dont think Mir can beat any of the following:
Gonzaga
Couture
Cain
Carwin
Brock
Herring
Probably cant even beat Dos Santos
Stylistically he could beat Kongo, but thats just cause Kongo is stupid.
I dont think he can beat Herring, thats the next fight I want to see Mir take.
Or if he still thinks he is an IMPOSING STRIKER, my man Cro cop would be happy to bang with him! lol
There is NO FIGHT I want to see more then Fedor vs. Mir! Just to see the fear in Mir’s eyes would be priceless!
by JOhn G on Jul 13, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha – what a waste of a Fedor fight. Your hatred for Mir knows no bounds, John.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 13, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i DONT LIKE FIGHTERS that fool everyone into thinking they are good, when they arent!
by JOhn G on Jul 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough, but the argument could be made that Bisping is as guilty as Mir of over-exaggerating his in-cage prowess … (for example, gloating after the gift-wrapped Hammill decision and promising to give Hendo his first-ever KO) and you don’t seem to harbor the same animosity towards him. Just saying.
by Jeremyjackson on Jul 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
to true john actually thought bisping would beat hendo, and he once called himself a hendo fan.what in your right mind made you think bisping had anything on hendo, was it him looking impressive against mcarthy?
by shogun on Jul 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see Lesnar even getting knocked out in the future. Franks standup looked impressive when he became aggressive towards Lesnar and Lesnar admitted to being momentarily dazed by Franks onslaught. Fedor is the man to beat Brock for sure. Not to say that Brock isn’t capable of beating Fedor, but I just see Fedor as the number 1 heavyweight whether he competes in the UFC or not. Then again, he has a very tough test ahead of him in Josh Barnett. Josh is a large wrestler as well. Brock might want to keep his eye on that fight.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, brock really leaves his head exposed after the clinch, he did that with randy as well.
by shamo84 on Jul 13, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that is definitely something that Brock needs to work on. I remember when Randy landed a pretty good shot on him when they got out of the clinch. Was that the shot that opened him up?
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I am from the UK and saw the frank mir vs Brock L. I thought mir had a slight injury in is left leg. If you guys watch the fight closely I am sure he had a injury.
I think mir has alot of guts and I as a UK fan think he will come back from this and hopefully nock this Brock out. I do agree mir nearly had brock but brock was to strong.
I dont understand why mir only got $45,000 of the prize money? can someone explain how come as I am new to the UFC thing.
I would like also to comment on the bisping fight. It was a shame to see dan Hendo give that last punch to someone who was allready out even though bisping did pee me off when he went on about the age bit, because I am 43 and I did not like that comment to say the least. It made the sport look a little dangerous and this is a shame.
I hope Dana dose something about this issue otherwise I can see somebody getting killed and no more UFC.
by gary234 on Jul 15, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no one in the UFC right now that could even make a fight with Brack COMPETITVE. He would crush all of them. Hopefully, the UFC can get one of either Barnett or Fedor because those are the only 2 I can think of that would even give Brack a run for his money. Maybe Santos if he gets passed Crocop. I think the cack-chested Lesnar is going to hang on to that strap for a LONG time.
by stevo on Jul 13, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
what a great example of post-fight awe. anytime anyone has a great fight people always jump to the conclusion that they’re unbeatable.
no one in the ufc and fedor and barnett only giving Brock a “run for his money”? Couture hadn’t fought in over a year, came in way underweight and was muscling brock around the cage until he got hit. Brock’s intimidating, but he looked vulnerable against Mir’s standup and he’s showed major weaknesses in the past to submission and to legit wrestling.
by Jonathan Zungre on Jul 14, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you know who Shane Carwin is?….Or are you just another Fan boy?
by danny on Jul 18, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
As a fellow black belt in gracia jiu jitsu, I can tell you that Frank Mir was within half an inch of catching Lesnar. Frank just needs to work on some stamina drills and he should be fine for a rematch with Lesnar.
by carlos on Jul 14, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That is one thing people dont understand about Jiu-jitsu. I am in to submission grappling and have trained under some Jui-Jitsu guys. I weight in at 210 and have grappled guys who are 160 and 170. I can tell you they are DEADLY of their backs.
by danny on Jul 18, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Mir is done. He wouldn’t beat Cain, Carwin or Randy. He is going to be fighting bums from here on out. He is in limbo because he can’t beat the top guys, just like Fitch is in the WW division. BYE MIR.
by jay on Jul 13, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree on the Mir comments but definitely not on the Fitch comment. Are you crazy? I would love to see Fitch fight Alves again. That would be a great fight. The only guy who puts a whuppin on Fitch is GSP and that is pretty much par for the course.
by Adam T. on Jul 13, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Adam T.- Agreed. Fitch is more easily compared to Rich Franklin when he was in the middleweight division.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Who does GSP NOT lay a beating on. And please dont even mention the fluke that was Serra.
GSP-SILVA!!!! Make it happen!!!
by WB on Jul 13, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s very possible that if Silva beats Griffin, that he will fight GSP next. Hendo said himself that Dana didn’t say anything about him fighting Silva again for the title. I think that Hendo should get the winner of Maia/Marquart while Silva fights GSP (win or lose to Forrest) Then the winner of Hendo/Maia/Marquart gets the next middleweight title shot.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva has to defend the title every 6 months, he can’t go from a non title fight to another non title fight
by Crackbaby on Jul 13, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Would his fight against GSP be at a catchweight? If so, it would be at 180 I am assuming?
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
its in the past already lets move on ir.. you got beat! bad!
you should fight kongo next that whould be intresting
by mikeybear on Jul 13, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i bet mir is the best HW other than brock and i would bet he comes back.. anyone else remember that knee rocking brock as they went down? yeah it did and it was a bit obvious by his facial expression
by randy murders on Jul 13, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I just hope that this motivates Mir. Mir looked to be in fantastic shape for this fight and he still couldn’t beat Lesnar. That has to be discouraging. I did want Brock to win this fight (I am a fan what can I say?) but I still saw Mir as a legitimate threat with his submissions. Now I see him as a great threat in the stand up department. Can’t wait to see him come back and I hope he is still motivated.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
How can Mir be done? There’s no shame in getting over powered by a guy you who outweighs you by that much. Mir v Kongo, Herring, Cain, Carwin, Dos Santos- all good fights I’d want to watch.
by DSmith on Jul 13, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I just know that according to Mir, he hasn’t always been motivated to train. I hope that he is able to comeback stronger and that he continues to improve. I would like to see Mir vs Herring and Dos Santos vs Kongo. Also wouldn’t mind seeing Randy and Mir throw down. If that happened then I would be content with Gonzaga vs Herring.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
lol.
Mir could beat Cain or Randy.
His subs are awesome and those 2 guys don’t have super strength.
by Bennie Blanco on Jul 13, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
mir promised a fight, he basically promised a schooling of lesnar. he belittled lesnar, he degraded lesnar. he had brock thinking it was gonna be a hell of a fight. brock was wanting an all out back and forth, close, tough fight. what did brock get, he made mir bitch-up and go belly down on the canvas like a coward dog. lesnar has NO reason to show a person of that caliber any respect. with all the sh*t mir talked, he should have kept fighting until he was out like bisping, instead he just went belly down and gave up/quit. i guess in terms of life or death, mir’s the type of person that had rather live a coward than die a hero. he’s nothing but a front runner, things start going bad an he rolls over like a whipped dog.
by deuce 4 on Jul 13, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You have no idea what you’re talking about deuce 4.
by bostonmmajunkie on Jul 14, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
lol bonstonmmajunkie, you obviously dont know anything about mma. mir is a pussy and thats that, just a cocky little pussy. he thinks he can beat fedor. the guy is just a retard and you are obviously a dumbass.
by mmajunkie187 on Aug 4, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
mir had this coming. what was lesnar supposed to do, invite him out to dinner after all the trash and belittlement frank had thrown brocks way?! i think when u run ur mouth and show no respect to a guy ur goin to fight, well, i see it as u got coming whatever that other man deems necessary, there’s nothing saying what u got coming exactly, it’s in the other man’s hands as to what u get. there is no written law as to how one should take criticism and trash talk. don’t go through that door unless u don’t care what’s on the other side
by deuce 4 on Jul 13, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
cain velazques could take on brock 100% did you see how he man handles kongo?
by edd on Jul 13, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully mir Can kill himself Now!!
Such a Douche
by Dingo on Jul 14, 2009 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Was I watching the same fight between Frank and Brock? A half an inch my butt!! That was around 7 min of face pounding!
by Dozerbd on Jul 14, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What a fuckin’ idiot! That’s all I have to say.
by justagirl on Jul 13, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions
Sorry Mir, you got dominated and at no point did Brock seem to be in any trouble.
by Tony C on Jul 13, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
Brock did look to be in slight trouble when Mir came at him aggressively, however Brock recovered quickly by getting the takedown.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
brock was seeing stars after mir hit him with a faber knee in the clinch.
by COR on Jul 13, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Same result next time Mir! I agree Brock was OTT but the amount of BS Mir talked it would taken someone special to not say anything. Also everyone seems to be ignoring that Mir pushed everyone away got up and went over to Brock!
by cjgilly on Jul 13, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
i would much rather see carwin shut lesnar up, but cain would be fine too
by child on Jul 13, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
carwins the man to do it. i can see cain stuffing lesnars takedowns( and yes a good wreslter like cain, carwin randy can stuff most of lesnars takedowns ) its just the power on the feet to put him away. cains getting good at striking its just his chin isnt iron but he has good recovery and he has very little power in his hands. carwin and lesnar have dynamite in there hands but im kind of biased and would say carwin has much more power. these facts point out that carwin has the best shot and i think is better than lesnar
by jared on Jul 13, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I think cain has the better chance based on wrestling ability and cardio.
by shamo84 on Jul 13, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i think cariwn has the best shot against lesnar because cariwn has everything lesnar has (and has been successful with), the size, the power, the wrestling core, the cynderblock fists. my prediction (as it was back in 2008) is that carwin will be HWT champion by the middle of 2010
by child on Jul 13, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Carwin has a better shot than Brown Pride. Carwin got blasted by Gonzaga and recovered quickly for the TKO. Brown Pride got rocked by Kongo several times, and only Kongo’s stupid decision to try to wrestle with Brown Pride saved him.
by PW on Jul 13, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean KO gonzaga was out cold >:) but im glad people agree with me
ALL ABOARD THE CARWIN FISTS OF DYNAMITE WARWAGON
by jared on Jul 13, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m on the warwagon until it gets to mount improbable (lesnar)
by newkoba on Jul 13, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Mir is exactly right, you need to act like you have been there before……
by Dragon on Jul 13, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
I agree with cjgilly, Mir got up and appeared to want to get at Lesnar. As far as spitting, I think he was frothing at the mouth. Also, he apologized after so all is well. I like Mir, but he got what he deserved.
by Tony C on Jul 13, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
You could the same had Lesna lost, they both talked alot of trash but everyone does and everyone is usually pretty profesional about it, except brock and baby jay.
by Dragon on Jul 13, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Tough shit Mir….you couldn’t back up your talk. Lesnar should have won the first fight, and he kicked your butt the second fight. Don’t bring your kids next time…this isn’t badminton!
by ducknow on Jul 13, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t know about the timing, but do you think they would match Mir against the loser of Carwin and Cain?
by BeerMan on Jul 13, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
i lov mir and him sounding motivated for his next fight is good news, even is ==f he never fights steroid ballz again hes probly gonna work his ass off..
by guyverbob on Jul 13, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
This douchebag irritates me. He talks all this shit and acts like a smartass, but then when he gets his ass kicked, he wants to come across as the most gracious fighter ever!
by justagirl on Jul 13, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
As they say it’s easy to be classy after you’ve got your ass kicked.
by MK on Jul 13, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
My favourite was after Houston Alexander smashed Jardine he was screaming at him to get back up…
by Paul on Jul 13, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
that is one of the best knockouts ever. houston just hits jardine with bombs and than after the last uppercut his head hits the mat that shit was epic. houston screaming just added more entertainment
by jared on Jul 13, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I am the only one that thought Mir was starting to take over the standup game right before the final take down.
by Luppers on Jul 13, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
I’m a lesnar fan, but I agree with you. The little standup there was, Brock wasn’t doing great. He still needs to work on that.
by justagirl on Jul 13, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
No No.. I saw it to. Mir smelled blood and got skippy.
Lesnar got hooks and circled away which got Mir pinned with his back against the cage, that led to the jumping knee and Brock takedown. If Mir would have stayed away from the cage and explored striking a little bit who knows.
Lesnar showed me that he does not like to get hit and I swear he was wobbly for a quick second.
Luppers, thanks for speaking up as I thought I was alone in this.
by Big Zino on Jul 13, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I would also like more information if anyone has any on the Bathroom private convo time between Dana and Brock.
Brock called it a “whip the dog session” and he looked like a kid getting suspended from high school during the post fight press.
I’m guessing Dana told him about the UFC school of management “my way or the highway”. Mouthing off to Bud light (biggest mainstream sponsor to date) was not wise.
by Big Zino on Jul 13, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I would have loved to been a fly on the wall for that one!!
by Dragon on Jul 13, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
if i were brock i wouldn’t take any crap off dana white. dana’s lucky brock didn’t hospitalize him and take the ufc belt to another promotion. dana white caused ALL of this. he did the countdown show that aired with all of mir’s comments on lesnar. dana stirred this pot, but now wants to b*tch when it gets a little too hot. u reap what u sow dana, and dana white wanted this enigma that is brock lesnar, well, he’s got him!
by deuce 4 on Jul 13, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt Dana is worried about physical threats from Brock or anyone else.
You know who works for this guy eh? an MMA Army. And he’s got more money than the state of California.
Nobody ever likes the boss.
by Big Zino on Jul 13, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember that part in Rocky IV where Drago grabs that Soviet government official by the throat and throws him? I don’t know what made me just think of that.
by PW on Jul 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He got a few shots in but most of them actually missed. He threw an elbow and a knee which may have stunned Brock momentarily but it was just about the only 10 seconds of the fight he had even a small bit of success. The rest of the fight he pretty much got the crap beaten out of him.
by MK on Jul 13, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw Lesnar get somewhat rocked by the first knee, but then Mir went for that second flying knee, probably throwing away his closest chance at winning.
by Tom on Jul 13, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
wATCH THIS SPACE BY A YEARS TIME brock WOULD HAVE BEATEN CARWIN, CAIN AND THEN THEYS NO1 LEFT….WHO COMES NEXT…
BOBBY LASHLEY , A MAN WIN THE SAME WRESTLING ABILITY WHO IS USED TO GUYS BROCKS WEIGHT AND WILL HAVE A RECORD OF 8-0 WITH MORE EXPERIENCE THAN BROCK!!
WAR LASHLEY!!!
by Jugga on Jul 13, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
im still betting that when lashley gets hit square hes gunna fold. his head is so small i cant see him getting hit by a big guy and not getting ko’d
by jared on Jul 13, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Lashely has a long way to go before people should be talking about him competing effectively against top 10 heavyweights. We will see what happens. So far Jason Guida was his toughest test.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Mir can stand and strike with Lesnar, problem is that wasn’t his strategy.
I think his strategy ultimately was to let him pound on him and see if he could catch him for a submission. Yea as stupid as that sounds.
Thing is guys if you have watched Brocks fights, his standup isn’t all that great. If he’s going to beat you, it’s likely a TKO on the ground.
I have an idea for a freak show fight like 2-3 years from now. Machida versus Brock.
Grace & skill versus strength & size. All Machida would do is just not cut any weight.
by kibbled_bits on Jul 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
Machida has actually expressed interest in fighting Brock so if Machida cleans out the LHW division and Brock is able to reign atop the heavyweight division, that idea isn’t very far fetched. If Fedor gets signed, he could possible beat Brock. Seeing Fedor vs Machida would be nothing short of incredible as well.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
To sum up: Mir was lucky against Lesnar once, and it won’t happen again. Ever. And Mir ran his mouth for months leading up to the fight and got destroyed. Everyone crying about classlessness can save all their self-righteous hand-wringing for Henderson.
by PW on Jul 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
If Mazzagati refs the rubber match. I think Frank has got a great shot at beating him again.
by doubled on Jul 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
I would love to know what Mir was saying to Brock on the ground at the end of the first round? also it really looked like Mir was getting up to confront Lesnar when Lesnar went off on him, (but he might have been going to shake his hand)
did you guys see when Lesnar finally calmed down a bit and the Dr approached him? he said “WHAT DO YOU WANT”
by jet99 on Jul 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
yes jet, that was awesome when he yelled at the Doc. Lesnar was so fired up, i think the doc pooped himself.
by eightyproof on Jul 13, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Or he could of had no clue where he was at the time and happened to be going in Lesnar’s direction. Dude just got blasted. He had trouble just getting up.
by Five Finger Death Punch on Jul 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Mirs such a nice guy and a true martial artist, he showed such class thruout compared to Lesnar. LOLOLOLOLOLOLO
What an idiot really!
by BADGUY on Jul 13, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
i’d watch again. 1-1… i hate lesnar, and believe in BJJ, i think Mir would do whats neccessary to pull out the W. but then again, i’m looking for any and all possibilities of hope to put lesnar out, so count me in the “gullible and will believe anything” column
by micahw on Jul 13, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
Exactly Mir- Train hard come back stronger. Most UFC fighters dislike Brock after that post fight trashing of fans, Mir, Budlight and even the UFC. WAR MIR!!
by Ktown on Jul 13, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
why does Brock owe bud light anything. did they pay for his kids to be born? did they put him through college? he doesn’t owe bud light sh*t. and if bud light is gonna be the type of company that pulls its sponsorship b/c of 1 fighter, well i don’t think the ufc really needs that type of sponsor anyways.
by deuce 4 on Jul 13, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha mir is so full of it he came nowhere close to beating brock he got smashed just like the first fight before he got lucky brock will crush murr every time as for cain congo dropped him with every punch brock will walk through him, as for carwin his only shot is a KO and i don’t think brock is dumb enough to stand with him
by TheDragon on Jul 13, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
Hmmmm.. As I recall it was Mir that called Brock a loser in the countdown special for talking about “what-ifs”. Kettle, meet pot.
by MC on Jul 13, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Mir, that makes you look just as bad as brock in defeat. Stop making excuses. Btw i found this on BloodyElbow.com than i came here to contribute.. MMAMANIA YOU ARE ON THE BALL! ;D
by Sky on Jul 13, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions
This is comparable to GSP-Serra 2. The second fight was such an ass-whoopin that non one really cares to see a rubbermatch.
by Kimura88 on Jul 13, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
Actually I’m not a fan of Mir, but I wouldn’t mind seeing another go at it. Lesnar lost, and his chance to adjust after seeing a little bit of what Mir can do. Now Mir knows some of what Brock can bring to the table. Maybe he should get a shot to readjust and try to overcome the onslaught. If he can’t, then it’s hamburger face again for the Mir family.
I really can’t stand Mir, but he is a much better alternative to Tim Sylvia. He was impressive as champion before, so he deserves a shot to get his own revenge.
by Chris on Jul 13, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i wanna see it as well.
maybe this time brock will put a hole in mir’s face and make a vagina out of it! complete with rag effects!
by liukangstoupee on Jul 14, 2009 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions
off topic, (and I am sure not too many people care) but has anyone heard any Bisping news?
by jet99 on Jul 13, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
I haven’t, and I must say that even though I wanted Hendo to come away with the win, i am pretty worried about Bisping. That was a sick KO that has the potential to change a person. He talks too much trash, but I do like the Brit and hopes he has a long, successful career…after Hendo gets his shot at Silva again.
by Chris on Jul 13, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was wondering the same – you usually get the “Injuries and suspensions” news by now but it’s all a bit quiet. I’d like to know if that flying forearm did any jaw damage, was pretty sever.
On that fight – I think as good as Hendo was, Bisping didn’t show up, he looked like the old 205 fighter rather than the 185 model and seemed really frail in build for some reason. I don’t like to make excuses as he fought stupid but definitely didn’t seem himself. (my advice on beating Hendo, as he’s one of the most predictable fighters around – circle to his left and keep popping left kicks into his liver, his right hand is always cocked leaving his body open – catch him with a few hard shots there then go for the head as he’ll start dropping that right to protect, even if he doesn’t a 38 year old will tire fast with big body shots. This would have been my gameplan, avoiding his takedowns once you’ve landed those shots and got him worried is another matter!) ;)
by Jimrod on Jul 13, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
good reply Jimrod
I have one other really good strategy to beating Hendo…
be Anderson Silva
by Chris on Jul 13, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, id like to hear how bisping is doing health wise. but is also like to know what the eff he was thinking. his corner men were yelling at him at the end of round one to stop circling around to henderson’s right hand.
by COR on Jul 13, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah sorry, but I don’t buy Mir giving someone lessons on being classy. I know they have to talk trash about other fighters to sell fights, but Mir lost me when he started insulting Lesnar’s coaches and their abilities. You’re fighting Lesnar, not the guys in his corner.
As far as people jumping on Lesnar’s back about disrespect. When has the crowd showed any respect for him? He was getting booed out of buildings before he ever stepped foot in the octagon. He wasn’t a jerk after losing to Mir, and he wasn’t really THAT bad after beating Herring and Couture. It’s obvious the middle finger came from some emotion that built up over time from seemingly never being able to do anything right in the fans’ eyes.
One last bit. I am absolutely not a wrestling fan, but I did see Brock in the WWE from time to time. The guy was programmed to play to the crowd. If they boo, he acts like a bigger jerk. That was his job. Granted it’s not his job anymore, and he definitely has growing up to do, but the UFC is the first chance he’s had to be back in front of a big crowd. It’s somewhat understandable that he might revert back to some old habits.
Anyone who says they haven’t ever reacted poorly in a highly emotional situation is either lying or they’ve never found themselves in such a scenario. You have to learn from stupid mistakes and I certainly hope he has. Let’s not crucify him for a mistake. The guy is still very new to this and has been thrown to the fire rather quickly. Who else has had title shots and this much attention so early in their career?
by Chris on Jul 13, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
NO, u don’t have to talk trash and insult ur opponents to sell fights!! if ur humble, confident in ur abilities, see the strengths in ur opponents abilities also, n commit to giving everything u’ve got come fight night, THAT sells the fight to me!
by deuce 4 on Jul 13, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I the only one who basically thinks none of the UFC heavyweights has the tools to defeat Brock?
I mean the smaller guys like Randy, Cain etc. basically have been shown up – Randy, while coping with the wrestling just can’t take the shots from Brock’s big meat hooks, Cain showed he can’t finish or even take a big shot that well against Congo – and he will never manhandle Brock in the wrestling department as he did with Congo either.
The bigger guys, like Mir and Nog simply aren’t explosive enough to strike with him or submit him (now he’s gotten more experienced). Carwin has the best chance but seeing Gonzaga make his life hard before the KO doesn’t inspire me – as big as he is Brock is just “thicker” than anyone else, he’s got such a big frame that even Carwin can’t match and when all else is even Brock is just more explosive which tips the balance in his favour.
I think the only way you beat him is to get a top class striker in there, quick enough to stuff/avoid the take-downs and lay some big shots on that thick skull. Junior Dos Santos has possible potential to do that, Fedor possibly even more so since he would be a handful even for Brock in the grappling department (and to someone on a previous thread who said about Fedor’s Jits skills – he doesn’t have Jits skills, he fights Sambo/Judo style, arguably more effective against a beast like lesnar).
Aside from them the only real threat I could see to Brock is an odd one – Machida. He has the right tools to devastate someone like Brock and is extremely hard to catch, Brock would blast across the ring right into a fist/foot combo and he leaves himself wide open after a swing for the counter – with that much weight steaming into a solid Karate punch he could take some big damage. Speed is the one thing missing from most of Brock’s potential opponents and I think it’s the one area that is needed if you want to beat him. Out-muscling him is simply not an option.
by Jimrod on Jul 13, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
Dammit, this took so long to show up that someone beat me to the Machida comment :D
*also, Cro Cop, IF he get’s his old form back could stand a chance, my worry being his rather pedestrian footwork which could get him taken down – if he could stay on his feet I’d like to see Brock eat foot.
by Jimrod on Jul 13, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s hard for me to make this argument because I hate Shaquille O’Neal, but you can’t blame the guy for being bigger and stronger than everyone else. The guy is just genetically superior in those aspects. And for they critics who will no doubt attribute his size to steroids, I have seen pics of Brock when he was 16, and the guy was a monster then. He has spent his entire life lifting weights and working out on a farm. I have no concrete proof, but I seriously doubt that he took steroids. He never needed to, and he can’t now anyway so it’s a senseless argument to make.
by Chris on Jul 13, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida is one of the few guys I’d like to see whoop Lesnar, but that’s scary to me. Machida would have to put on some weight to stand a chance, which could slightly hurt his agility. I don’t know what Machida walks around at, but I don’t think it would be enough.
After the other night, I think Superman could take Lesnar, and that might be about it. I would like to see Fedor give it a try, though
by Chris on Jul 13, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t buy Mir giving advice on being classy. I know they have to talk trash to sell fights, but he lost me when he insulted Lesnar’s coach and his ability. You’re fighting Lesnar not the guys in his corner.
As far people jumping Lesnar’s case for showing disrespect, when have the fans showed him any respect? He has been slammed with boos ever since they announced his arrival in the UFC. It kind of seems to me that the middle finger to the crowd, albeit ill-advised, was simply built-up emotion from seemingly never being able to do anything right in the fans eyes.
One last bit…I am absolutely not a wrestling fan, but I did get to see Lesnar from time to time in WWE. He was programmed to play to the crowd. If they booed, he would be a bigger jerk. That was his job. It is certainly not his job anymore, which he needs to learn, but it is somewhat understandable that he could revert back to some old habits. The UFC is the first chance he’s had to be back in front of big crowds of screaming fans. He has a lot of growing to do, but he’s forced to do it quickly because he’s already getting a lot of attention. He is still so new to the sport, but has been thrown to the fire faster than anyone in history of the UFC. Let’s not crucify the guy just yet.
If he’s still acting like this a year from now, I see give me a pitchfork and a torch and let’s go after him.
by Chris on Jul 13, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
really sorry about the double-post. This is my first time here, and there was a delay on the last one. I thought maybe it didn’t take it. I’ll be more patient.
by Chris on Jul 13, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeez, I wanna see a pic of Mir after this fight. I thought the one on this post was, but after looking at the background, it’s from ufc 81. Anyone know where I can see pics?
by justagirl on Jul 13, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, when I first looked at the pic I thought, “wow he really cleaned up well, because right after the fight he didn’t even look like the same guy.”
by Chris on Jul 13, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of pics…Check out the pics on ufc site of the Hendo, Bisping fight…..I’m guessing this pic was snapped right after the big KO punch????
cheers!!!
by Brocksbabymama on Jul 13, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Mir, you are such a horses ass! A hypocrite. After you beat Nog you went running over to the cage yellin at Brock telling him he had your belt, be careful what you wish for …blah, blah, blah. You talked so much disrespectful trash saying Brock didn’t deserve a title shot against Randy, he didn’t deserve the money he was making. Well, it was your job to
prove that. And you weren’t able to. Just shut the hell up you whining sissy. Go join BJ Penn at the cry baby’s club!!!!!!!
by Wes on Jul 13, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
What he didn’t do was run up to Nog and taunt him “hey, first time for everything, hey bitch!” Essentailly, that’s what Lesnar did.
There’s no problem with pumping up a fight, getting the fans excited, but be a pro fighter, not a pro wrestler.
by Freddy on Jul 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Next time??? Frank does not want a next time, he was totally owned in this fight and if it happens again it will be worse.
by Spyder on Jul 13, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions
Spyder has no credibility. I wouldn’t listen to a word he says.
by Yourmomma on Jul 13, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
ha good one? See what I’m saying? He’s a little bitch.
by Yourmomma on Jul 13, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s no coincidence that the cast of TUF 10 are nearly all 250-285lbs. They’re not looking for heavyweights that are gonna drop to light heavyweight as soon as they’re crowned ultimate fighter, they’re looking to stack the deck. Give it a little time and they’ll find someone to take down Lesnar.
by Adam on Jul 13, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
please somebody post a pic of mir after the fight…I dont understand alot of why everyone is so pissed at Brock..They boo’d him on his way in to the cage..they boo’d him after the fight..Mir is the one that talked all the trash before hand, mocking him saying this isnt the WWE..People need to quit looking at him as a former WWE performer and look at him for what he is a former NCAA champion and a beast in the cage… I wasnt happy when he acted like he did after the Heath Herring fight..But Mir asked for what he got. I also remember a former fighter that talked alot of shit after he beat someone up. He even had Tshirts printed too wear after fights making fun of who he just whooped..And last time i checked Tito made a pretty good name for himself, and help bring the UFC too what it is today..
by Wallace9947 on Jul 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
Umm i pretty sure that Mir did call Lesnar everything in the book… I like the Bj compairison SOOOOOO true. keep talking Mir you sound dumb now…before you sounded a little educated, but not so much anymore..
Did Lesnar do anything wrong after the Coture fight?? Seems like he only gets bitchy after he beats the smack talkers.. I would have flipped the bird to those fans as well.. he dominated the fight and they were booing… Did they go there for a fight of what???
And if you bet against him…LOL
by james on Jul 13, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
what do all the " i love frank muuurrrr boys have to say now, i.e. john and stinky fingers, come on boys , give us your proffesional opinions, oh , i forgot, stinky said he would stop commenting forever if brock won, too bad!
by daz on Jul 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe next time Murrr won’t talk so much bullshit before the fight. Lesnar is a jackass, no doubt, but I expected some sort of outburst from him, considering all the shittalk prior to the fight. I wasn’t too fond of it, but whatever. He’ll leran to tone it down and say the right things… hate his ass all you want, but he’s a machine.
Next up: Big Nog
by Sirchokemout on Jul 13, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
Mir’s ego is hurt. He is an arrogant fuck himself, and he karma came back at him. Doesn’t excuse Lesnar, but still.
Anyone saying that Machida has a shot needs to watch that fight again.
I say the only shots at beating Lesnar are:
Carwin
Lashley
Shaquille O’Neal
I’m serious.
by DAMN! on Jul 13, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
I’m sorry, I don’t see it. I still think you need the superhuman size of MUSCLE. Fedor is great and has size, but much of that weight is fat.
Brock is 265 of MUSCLE. Only Lashley and Carwin are in that category.
by DAMN! on Jul 13, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think right now, Fedor beats Lesnar before entering the cage. He excels him in one crucial attribute: peace of mind.
I’m serious.
Seeing how mentally frail Brock is, he would be way too amped to focus on all the problems Fedor would bring. I for one would love to watch Fedor inexpressively pounding on Brock’s wincing and surprise bucket-head.
by ARodOfIron on Jul 13, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, most NCAA divsion I wrestling champs aren’t that skilled. Wrestling is arguably one of the best foundations for mma. yeah, I guess you’re right he must not have any skill at all.
by Rich on Jul 13, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions
Although Brock is a DoucheBag he has tremendous skill and strength. He had a 106 and 5 record in college. His grappling was amazing on Saturday even if you know nothing armchair idiots don’t agree. I hope Mir wins in the re-match!
War anybody but Lesner!
by oldskooljjsu on Jul 13, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
Its easy to talk trash before the fight and blame it on hype to sell the fight if you lose. Who knows how mir would have reacted if he would have submitted brock. I think Brock would have gotten booed no matter what if he won but imo his trash talking in this case was almost justified. I liked mir for this fight and wanted to see him win but after all the dishing it out, getting dominated, and now not being able to take it dude WAR BROCK!!
by truestory on Jul 13, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
I think Mir is extremely far from a rubber match. He must look utterly impressive in whatever he does from here to even stand a far chance.
I do find interesting that he seems to admit he came in light to the fight. When I saw him weigh in, in the most slender shape I’ve seen him, I was like “wasn’t that the same mistake Randy made??”
As far as trash talking goes, Lesnar beats anybody in the UFC, and still at this stage of the game, most guys in the WWE… but I think Frank will do a little less talking after this one.
by ARodOfIron on Jul 13, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
I dont think there will be a re-match, Mir got owned. Anyone watching could clearly see that Frank does not stand a chance. Throw Carwin at him, besides that I think it will have to be a guy like Fedor, Barnett, Lashley. There is nobody in the UFC with a chance of beating Brock besides Carwin…maybe!! I would like to see Brock take a heavy shot on the chin from Carwin, just to see how/if he could handle it and hang in there!!
by Spyder on Jul 13, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
I’d definitely want to see this.
As Lesnar said, his “guys get out of that” hold Mir was in…..
I think Mir was a dumbass and didn’t train properly. I mean, “Forest Griffin?” I hope he had some big ass dudes in there too…
Brock didn’t want any part of going toe to toe with Frank though. He seemed to be avoiding that.
A good Frank Mir knee could’ve put Brock down… the hard part though is just not being taken down by Lesnar.
by nobody on Jul 13, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
He was insulting Brock before the fight and said a lot worse than what Brock did after. I for one am glad Brock made Mir eat his words. Mir should preach what he teaches and stop being a sore loser
by Puck Head on Jul 13, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
Mir must still be dazed with those bozo comments. He talked more $hit than Brock before the fight and got his mouth shut for it. If he thinks closing the weight gap to 10 pounds is going to help him he must have suffered brain damage as well. First, he couldn’t carry that much weight and be in shape without some “synthetic” help and even then he still couldn’t stop Brock’s take downs and power. Just keep your mouth shut Frank and start thinking about getting down to 205. I doubt he could cut that much weight but I don’t see him doing squat at HW in the UFC until Brock retires or dies. Maybe he should put in a call to Strike Force.
by Gurthee on Jul 13, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Though I don’t agree with Lesnar’s post-fight reactions, I also can’t stand all the shit that Mir is saying, so I really can’t blame Brock on that one.
by maw on Jul 13, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions
They should bring Tim Sylvia back and have him face Mir. That would get Tim motivated for a rematch and hopefully back on track. Then bring in Arlovski against Kongo.
by RyanHobbs on Jul 13, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the 1/2 inch referred to the knee, not a sub. Brock said he saw stars for a second so he was rocked by it. However he easily countered by taking frank down till he got his senses back.
Frank is deluding himself if he thinks 10lb is going to make a difference.
by Casual fan on Jul 13, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions
ten pounds is not that much for a guy his size the question is would he lose speed & endurance with the extra weight? And F off Mir you were doing more than talking trash before the fight you were degrading brock. Did you tell your kids promoting the fight includes degrading and insulting your opponent infront of millions of viewers and readers including your opponents family & friends? I believe what Brock said after the fight for what you said before was honorable and necassary. How does your own medicine taste Mir maybe your kids will learn to keep their moth shut by understanding what goes around comes around?
by Puck Head on Jul 13, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
its 1-1 now, so yeh murr should be given a shot at lesnar if he can beat just one tough guy – not many to pick from, but id love to see The Truth step up and break his face again, not that i dont like murr but The Truth hurts and it was good to see.
by Insain on Jul 13, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
Mir needs to go. More then Hughes needs to go. More then Wandy needs to go. He acts like an idiot all the time, its hard to even stand the guy. Like some elite snob. He got killed the other night. Randy, Cain, Carwin….I’m sorry but they all beat him. Cain would do the exact same thing Lesnar just did. Nog didn’t show up and Lesner had no clue what he was doing the first fight. Wrestling when used to control beats BJJ. Just ask Bj Penn after GSP wrecked him. Ask Mir, I wonder if he can even see yet.
by the truth on Jul 13, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
So Lesnar acts like an idiot and he should stay because he won? Last I checked Mir had reeled off 3 wins in a row to get this fight, so he loses to Brock who everybody obviously thinks is God and unbeatable so he should leave? Makes perfect sense, you should start booking the events.
by Five Finger Death Punch on Jul 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock Lesner is a *uck stick, he is a terrible for the sport!!
by Rauzy on Jul 13, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
I respect him more than this cry baby. Suck it butter cup if you want respect then you better give respect what Mir said before the fight was 100% degrading Brock just gave back what he took from the suck.
by Puck Head on Jul 13, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Mir you had your one and only win against Lesner, you will never beat him again, so fade away dickhead!!
by mmafreak on Jul 13, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
why is everyone getting all upset like mir insulted their mother?
lesnar, although completely dominating, did admit that he was rocked and saw ‘tweetie pie’ (his words, not mine).
mir is smug by nature, but thats not a reason for someone to leave the ufc.
by ben on Jul 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
Your right he is still a good fighter and most realize that the problem is he’s a cocky SOB and for him to try to condone the insults he said was ok and then criticize what Brock said is a total F’n hypocrite.
by Beaver on Jul 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s so many God damned knuckleheads on here! Just reading thru half of these comments I can’t help but shake my head.
To John G and company that think Mir is nothing but garbage..
He (Mir) tools Noguiera like NOBODY had ever done before and that includes your God Fedor. He has world class jits, is probably the strongest HW outside of Lesnar and very, very solid stand up. If you watched that fight Sat. night, you will have noticed this or you are just too stubborn to see it. Mir was simply beaten by a guy who outweighed him by close to 45 lbs and is too strong for him right now.
To Everyone who thinks Fedor can beat Brock…
How is a 6’1 230 lb, out of shape weakling going to control Brock?! You are only kidding yourself if you think that Fedor would even have a chance to stand with Lesnar. Brock would take him to the ground instantly and tee off on him far worse than he did to Mir. Mir had at least 245 lbs and really good strength going for him to prevent a whole lot of damage and you still saw what happened. Imagine what Brock will do to a 230 lb rag doll like Fedor! He’ll get DESTROYED. Member what Fedor did to Sylvia? Yeah, picture that but in reverse. Lesnar will be pounding the shit out of him and the fight will be stopped within a minute guaranteed!
Guys who can beat Brock right now: Gonzaga, Carwin and Lashley. Yes, I said it, Lashley and Gonzaga. Both of these guys have tremendous size, power and strength. Gonzaga has a terrific ground game to go with his impressive striking while Lashley has terrific wrestling that might just counteract Lesnar’s. All I have to say is, just envisioning Lashley vs. Lesnar makes my mouth water. I mean talk about two warriors going at it, that would be like two lions in the safari going to war over a female.. just straight up charging at each other like monsters!
by Anthony on Jul 13, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor would wipe the floor with all of them… on the same night.
by soumynona on Jul 13, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Call me in the minority but I would watch a third fight with full on interest. I think Mir could beat him. Everybody wants to dump on him and that is cool. To each his own. I think that Mir was not himself this fight. He lost it fair and square but I honestly think nerves played a huge roll. I think he psyched himself out. With his ground skills there is no way he should not have been able to get a better position in the first round. But whatver, lesnar whooped him and I think a third fight is not necessarily a bad idea.
by Five Finger Death Punch on Jul 13, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
yeah I would like to see Mir take another beating maybe next time he learn to keep his mouth shut.
by Beaver on Jul 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
cain has no chance of beating anybody he looked terrible agianst kongo who has no ground skills to speak of
by slappyjack on Jul 14, 2009 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Mir would of won if he could have kept it on the feet.
Lesnar is beatable, his stand up is nothing special, IMO if Carwin catches him on the chin Brock is going to sleep
by Ermac on Jul 13, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions
I would rather watch a Mir Nog rematch to see if Frank was lucky the first time round (with Nog being very sick) and then we will determine if the win warrants the rematch with Brock.
by commoner on Jul 13, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
wow frank really you must still be fuzzy rom the fight he might not remember he was talking crap to brock after he nougeria hello frank wake up. you lost you didnt hurt him you loser. oh yea brock great job you the man.
by david p on Jul 13, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
Mir fought like a warrior. He attacked Lesnar from the get go. Ultimately, he could not get over the weight and wrestling advantage of Lesnar. He sure as hell doesnt deserve finger pointing by a bunch of internet cowboys that know nothing about sportsmanship.
by bostonmmajunkie on Jul 14, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
you are such a mir cockrider its hilarious.
by mmajunkie187 on Aug 4, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a guy that trains under Rob Kahn in Tampa…he’s on the ultimate fighter right now…former 1st round nfl draft pick…6’7" fighting at about 265 naturally…he is learning and WILL BEAT LESNAR WITH IN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS! Can’t think of the dudes name off hand…you guys will see when the next TUF comes out. I hate Lesnar…but I hate the UFC heavy weight division even more…its very very weak
by LukeP on Jul 14, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions
LOL what other HW division is there? Affliction who is most likely on it’s last event(Brock, Barnett & Yvel)? Or is it Overeem and Rogers(Strikeforce)? I’m not being bias to UFC but there is clearly more talent in the UFC HW division than any other organization well any weight division for that matter.
by Beaver on Jul 14, 2009 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Oops should say Fedor(instead of Brock), Barnett & Yvel.
by Beaver on Jul 14, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions
If Mir comes in another 15 to 20 ponds heavier I’d take him over Lesnar. He deffinetly has the skill just can’t get over powered in the process. His position against the cage really didn’t help him either.
by xxBAxx816 on Jul 14, 2009 4:16 AM EDT reply actions
hey guys. i know there are alot of lesnar haters out there who claim he has no skill, but think about it. he beat frank mir. who is arguably the best submission artist in the game. you cant say brock has no skill. he does. and just because he is naturally bigger and stronger than frank why wouldnt he take him down and stay on top of him. that is his game plan. his skill is take downs and controlling other fighters. thats exactlly what he did
by sinned22 on Jul 14, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
Mir, I know you can beat lesnar in a rubber match,
Please do so…..
but whats the strategy, (rhetoric question don’t answer)
improve striking, personally i think your striking is/was at a level you could have beat him with
I saw in this fight that after the bell in the second round you seemed to be the excited one and rushed in
maybe just become lighter on the feet and stick and move
maybe changing camps
Lesnar is a bully , true and true, he can’t take it, he can throw it, but when he gets hit in the face he show’s he’s not a fighter.
get that weight closer to his, work cardio, get a wrestling team together, get started…now
by MIR___PLEASE READ on Jul 15, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions
Mir talked so much crap and then got scared, folded up, and beaten by that “little sister pulling hair that can’t punch” guy Lesnar. That was too funny, I hope Mir doesn’t get any more money for being such a big pussy. Mir kind of reminds me of Oscar De La Hoya, a huge disappointment to say the least. Mir showed no heart in that fight, so he deserves no rematch.
by Chris on Jul 15, 2009 3:58 AM EDT reply actions
wow…WOW! No heart? Apparentley you watched the fight on ESPN and not the UFC showing of the fight. Nobody showed more heart that entire night. You get pounded the entire first round because you just missed a potential knee bar and you get up, go to your corner, and come out with a smile in the 2nd round. That takes a ton of heart. You obviously dont know anything about fighting. Go play some World of Warcraft
by Kevin on Jul 28, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Brock Lesnar is not all that. He is just huge. When he fights someone anywhere near his size he will lose.
When he does lose I doubt he will ever be seen in an octagon again.
by Reality on Jul 15, 2009 5:48 AM EDT reply actions
I think Mir is a brave fighter and someone who I am sure will beat brock in the next upcomming fight. I am sure these two will meet again after saturday.
Also you guys did not notice that mir had a injury to his left leg watch the fight closely the fight again mir was struggling to Knee brocks head, if connected brock would of fallen for sure, if of course mir was 100% fit.
by gary234 on Jul 15, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
I am going to be honest to all of you out there a fighter like Mir who has the courage and the spirit to take a beating like he did in the first round, and still get up and to come back out in the second round like a true warrior and a true martial artist against someone who looked twice his size and nearly nocked him out is in my book the winner.
I am surprised that some of you feel that Mir got beat and that is that, no your wrong the fighter who can endure such a beating and still get back up from it is the winner a true warrior. [you have to think to yourself would I do that???
by gary234 on Jul 15, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
Hi everybody again its me from the UK the new UFC fan. I will ask you again would any of you enter the Octagan and stand up and fight a recking machine like Brock and last 10 seconds maybe or not at all.
I am sorry to be a little sychastic, but you guys no how to put down and slate a UFC fighter, but yet would not have the guts to fight in the Octagan yourselves so what gives you the right to slate a fighter? [I must admit I am new to this, but its interesting]
by gary234 on Jul 15, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
The scary thing about brock is along with his strength is crazy speed. He has 4.6 speed in the 40, timed by por scouts for the NFL. With that speed used on his shoots, not many are opponents are gonna get away.
Brock man handeled Mir with one arm the entire match. A few times Mir tried to turn the other way and use his strength. Brock basically denied him every time. I thought Mir looked half strangled in Brock’s headlock the entire time on the ground.
Mir doesnt stand a chance against Brock, now or never. He could gain 40 pounds of pure muscle. Brock still would bave more explosive speed naturally.
I enjoye watching Brock tell Mir what a piece of shit he is. Also, whats Mir gonna preach to his kids next?
by BabyBrock on Jul 16, 2009 3:32 AM EDT reply actions
SPEAKING TO JIMRODS STATEMENT FROM WAYBACK, talking about Cain’s
ability to take Brock’s power, true Brock is very powerful, but
his incredible strength does not translate into true and pure
punching power, the mechanics of his punch are poor to say the
least, when standing Congo has a much more pure punch, and alot
more speed generating more power, Brock is slow and lumbering
mainly due to his muscularity and bulky stature, these body types
seldom acheive the power in their punches that the lenkier fighter acheives ie; Thomas Hearns,etc… but he has good power
regardless, his success is rooted solely in his size and strength
being to some opponents insurmountable, his skill level in all areas of mma, with exception to his wrestling is weak, sub par
especially when compared to all the names, being mentioned in these blog’s, anyone blogging here tonight that thinks that Frank Mir has no shot against Brock or anyone else mentioned is
either just speaking from emotion or just has no practicle knowledge of the sport, he is probably the best submission practitioner of all big men in the heavyweights, and whether or not he was losing every second of the fight or not, he still landed on Brock and it affected Brock, like it or not,
its more impressive that he could land on him after the beating he took, than if he open the fight with it, shows a little something to everyone, about how to fight Lesnar, Mir
should have had a different fight plan against lumbering Lesnar, and maybe could have had a different result, but either way, Brock’s stand up is weak, he has little chance against FEDOR,
by Jim Stevenson on Jul 18, 2009 4:18 AM EDT reply actions
BROCK IS BIG IMPOSING, LACKING SO MUCH MMA SKILL, BUT CAN
WIN BY SHEAR STRENGTH,WEIGHT, AND WRESTLING, CAN ALSO BE
BEAT ON ANY GIVEN DAY, BY STRIKING, OR SUBMISSION, GIVEN
THE PROPER OPPONENT, ITS NOT LUCK, A SUBMISSION, ITS PART
OF OUR SPORT, AND IT TAKES SKILL TO SUBMIT A GUY, ITS PART
OF THE SPORT THAT LEVEL’S THE PLAYING FIELD, SO THAT NOT JUST
THE BIG STRONG TALENTLESS GUYS DOMINATE ALL THE TIME, GUYS CAN COMPETE BIG OR SMALL, STYLES MAKE FIGHT’S MMA OR BOXING
by Jim Stevenson on Jul 18, 2009 4:39 AM EDT reply actions
Dana white is a whiny bitch who wants to act like a fighter, when he is just a fat old man. I wish Brock would have punked him.
Frank Mir is also a punk. He talked more shit then I have ever heard. He tried to come at Brock after he got broken. Now everyone wants to chastise Brock for bowin up. I wouldn’t touch gloves with someone who had talked about me like that. Mir deserved the asswhippin he got. He is a joke and a typical shit talker. Now, after he gets his ass handed to him by Brock, he wants to be a good sport and tell his kids how things should be done and how victors should act. Frank Mir is an pseudo intellectual ass clown and an absolute joke as a human.
by eatadickmir on Jul 21, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
with in an inch is not a bad way to put it. The jumping knee is what he is talking about. He hurt Lesnar (and all of you die hard handwagon Lesnar fans out there….Lesnar admitted it) with it. Lesnar was fortunate to have landed on Mir and was able to rest even though the entire crowd at Mandalay Bay and the rest of the world knew they shouldve been stood up. Lesnar is a crybaby and just cant admit he was beaten by a better fighter in the first match. Mir didnt rub it in after the first fight. If anyone says Mir deserved it youre crazy because I seen Lesnar running his mouth a lot. Lesnar doesnt have a halo above his head. If they fought 10 times I believe it would be a 50/50 split and I’d say the more they fight benefits Mir because he understands what to take away from a fight. Lesnar is one dimensional being that he will always use his size and punch. Lesnar isnt going to submit anyone and I cant wait to see him put on his back and flop around like a baby with someone pounding him. Mir has improved himself so much over the years and he will figure out how to deal with Lesnar. If you debate on who’s the best heavyweights in the world today, its Lesnar and Mir. Face it….either of these guys would make short work of Fedor.
by Kevin on Jul 28, 2009 12:36 AM EDT reply actions
Brock Lesnar should not be allowed in the UFC, I wish he would gain just 1 pound so that he can’t fight because he is at the limit. He was in WWE mode after the fight, I think. He should go back to WWE, he has no class, putting down Bud Light saying they won’t sponsor him… why would they? He is an idiot. Seriously though, who fingers the crowd!? That’s not something you do considering the fact that those people who paid for tickets also gave him money. Frank Mir is the best. Brock Lesnar is retarded.
by Mariah on Aug 2, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions

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