the thing is duece~ NOBODY did!! dana did, the fertittas did!!

i guess it’s that easy huh??

easy to lose 40 mill of ur buddy’s cash, after u already promised an upside??

if lorenzo and frank trust him??

if he built mma, almost to a mainstream sport??

and if dana personally sits down with athletic boards all over the WORLD to get this sport sanctioned, knowing other orgs are using what he has done for a ‘paved way’ tring to out sell him..

then yaeh!! dont respect this chump~ lol

dana gets plenty of respect and works with just the same..

u seem to be the chump deuce.. if it was soo easy, why arn’t u in danas position runnung a billion doller company??

the way u make it seem its soooo easy.. yeah thats why exc, pride, dream and affliction are failed or failing~

thats why even after dana made it soo popular, peeps still have trouble getting their org off the ground..

and dont tell me these other orgs wern’t/arn’t backed by million doller investors~

exc = cbs

affliction = trump, dela hoya, and the t-shirt guy of the same name

pride = dreamstage entertainment..

dream = actually ‘zuffa’ originally backed them up.. if u want to call the 60 million they got for the purchase of pride..

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so all these companys are backed by peeps with cash!! how are they failing? and dana’s succeeding?

I agree totally Stinky! You saved me a bunch of typing!

Great posts Stinky. I am always VERY Critical of Dana. I love the uFC and mma as much as anyone and Dana is the most important man in the sport…so I scrutinize all the mistakes that he makes, and he does make quite a few…but the positives far outweight the negatives…what he has done for mma in AMERICA is nothing short of America, and now he is starting to conquer other countries.

People are going to make mistakes, but I have to respect a man who dedicates his entire life to the growth of this company. Sure, he doesnt do much for mma as a whole, but the UFC is the best organization in the world, and what he has done for the UFC is nothing short of remarkable.

Duece: U are awarded, dumbest blogger of the day award for that asinine statement. YOu better watch your back, jV will be on here tomorrow to get his title back! lol

yeah! What Stink and John said.

Exactly, whatever you think of Dana as a person you can’t fault his success in taking the UFC and making it a mainstream brand. Sure the Fertitta’s money helped but money doesn’t always equal success, as the failed MMA promotions that Stinky pointed out prove. Dana’s far from perfect but to suggest that his job is easy is absurd.

Great post Stink! There are tons of people that come into undeserved fortunes and squander it all the time. Most people suck with money and most people would have failed even with the Fertitas support. I don’t agree with all Dana has done, but I stopped expecting people to be perfect a long time ago. Now, I’m happy when I find someone who’s worth a shit at all. Dana is role model for me inspite of his errors.

Stink and John needs to watch some other sports and get off the MMA hype and be real for a sec, you guys are living in a dream world… deuce is 100% correct, they didn’t create the sport MMA it was always there… and why nobody has done the same thing is because Dana made sure they wouldn’t!

thing your missing is that the fighters and the sport itself is what sells not the organizations…

If there was no great organization to fight in, they would all be fighting in these little sh*t holes getting paid $100 a fight. Great organizations attract great fighters, not the other way around.

You’re right on one thing RoB, MMA was always there just that nobody cared as much as they do now thanks to Dana, the Fertitta’s and the UFC.

Nice try but the guys done a lot regardless if you like him or not.

Dana’d be clocking on with us if he didn’t happen to have two billionaires as old school chums!

great post Jet. Short, sweet, but right to the point!

it was danas idea for tuf..

yeah he gets too much credit~ lol!!

Stink I always enjoy reading your posts and respect your opinion but on this I am going to have to respectfully disagree. I know it was his idea but before TUF he had lost a ton of money, if it weren’t for the deep pockets they would have folded long before TUF. If you throw enough crap up against the wall something is bound to stick.

wow what a concept. it was his idea for a reality show.

mike~ actually the ufc WAS making money before they did the show.. they only lost money the first 2 years..
~zuffa purchased the ufc in 2001.. the show was 2005..

the tv show put them on more of a mainstream level which is HUGE

if not give dana respect for the ‘mainstream’ part of mma, how about give him credit for sanctioning the sport all over the world~ and still going..

all the other orgs have huge financial backing, so i dont understand why all the hate for dana having a rich friend that trusts him..

All these ifs are hilarious from UFC fans…
You could make the same argument for almost every figher in the UFC that if they didn’t have such n such trainer and such n such promoters they would be nothing and be clocking in at wal-mart. Funny how the world works when “ifs” don’t mean much when they “DID”

good post adam T.

i have a simular post above with other examples, but u nailed it on the head with the sponsers~

duece is just a little jelly~ thats all..

its that or he is offended that dana cusses all the time~

Thanks. Your posts are much better. I usually just rifle some feelings off as quick as I can type.

again, agreed!!

great post adam~

How can you say that? You and I aren’t behind the scenes in the negotiations. There happen to be a lot of very happy fighters with the UFC. He seems to get a very good reception by the fighters and their cornermen when you see the video blogs that he does. Besides, he is the BOSS. It’s pretty simple. If I have a difference of opinion with my boss, then I either have to agree to what he says or find a new job. That’s life my friend.

And you will see more and more of the top fighters leaving for greener pastures.

Yeah, all the fighters are leaving to fight for $965 at Strikeforce. People can say what they want, the UFC still pays out the most. Greener pastures? I don’t think so.

Who makes more Nate a TUF winner or Nick? Enough said.

easy answer there~ NATE does..

nick doesn’t get bonus checks.. strikeforce and dream only pay contract agreements..

last year nate made more then his brother, so again i dont know what ur talking about..

rough figure~ nate made around 100,000k for his last fight!

sponsers not included.. which reminds me of how much more nate gets paid by his sponsers[alot more], on account of he is in the ufc and nicks not..

I think NIck made 6 figures for his fight in Japan, and gets close to 6 figures for his wins in strikeforce.

Thats actually a really great question. Interesting to hear S tinky say that Nate makes more…I dont doubt it, but their yearly salaries are probably close.

clay Guida made 23k to main event a fight.
thats ridiculous

Actually, daz didn’t make any valid points. “If you are associated with mma and not in the ufc you are a loser in dana’s eyes” He has paid respect to other fighters and organizations, saying how good a job Strikeforce does and commenting on fighters he would love to sign. Besides, it’s business. Competition baby! What do you like to do? Take your competition out to lunch and laugh it up, having a good time.
Great Post Zeke.

In your opinion he didn’t make any valid points, in mine he did. Dana does slag off more people outside the UFC than he praises, that’s a fact! Look at his track record with Fedor!

Again. What is he supposed to do, reap endless praise among his competitors and fighters not in the UFC. As far as Fedor goes, I think he was bitter over the terms that Fedor’s management wanted. I obviously have very limited knowledge of the negotiations but I do remember where they spoke about the UFC partnering to build a stadium in Russia. It seems like they wanted an arm and a leg to agree to a contract and Dana was rightfully upset about that. Deep down he knows how good Fedor is but what the hell do you want him to say?

its all buisness k-dogg~… ur point is one of the reasons dana is on top!!

dana already tried to get fedor..actually he would still sign him too..

the fact is, when an org is using someone to sugar coat their promotion, and at the same time talk a buch of crap about the ufc and say they are going to compete, then expect a compitition..

dana is a chump, but all these other orgs are the ones failing? thats some funny shit right there~

and dana wouldn’t be a chump if he just allowed other orgs to become bigger then his promotion..

he wouldn’t be a chump if he let peeps walk over him??

lol~ ur right’~ in that case he would be a SUCKER instead..

Not endless praise no, don’t be silly. Just acknowledge the guy’s achievments and give credit. Just trying to deny he’s any good and slagging him off makes Dana sound ret@rded, and alienates Fedor and puts a dent in any future participation of Fedor in the UFC. Fedor hears all this sh!t coming out of Dana’s mouth and’s probably like, Do I really want this @sshole as my boss? Just my two cents!

last time i heard dana talking about fedor he said~

’im trying to sign the guy, ive been trying for years..if fedor wants to talk to dana he would be happy to sit down with the man he has NEVER talked to..""

something like that!

the fact is, most americans dont know who fedor is.. dana has said he thinks fedor is top notch.. he siad he would give him a instant title shot.; what more do u want..

its all business man! the same reason dana is winning and the rest are losing!

No kidding Stink, I remember Dana during the Undisputed launch in his blog, “I’m trying to sign the guy!” when he read that stuff about Fedor on the side walk.

I’ve learned that its easy to pick on someone who’s on top, thus all the hate for Dana. He’s successful, unconventional, and great at what he does – no one can ever take that away from him.

Let the Walmat staff keep trashing, its all they know.

What’s the undertakers brother gotta do with MMA?

in other news…Gonzaga has called out Corey Hill

corey hill by tko after gonzaga gasses

lol~ mcarthur~