Frank Mir: It will be a short night for me if I'm cocky
by Jesse Holland on Jul 1, 2009 9:48 AM EDT
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"Anybody that size that gets behind a punch and sits down on it can catch me on the chin. If I’m cocky and put my hands down, obviously it will be a short night for me and I can go home and cry about it later. The fighter I was then compared to the fighter I am now is leaps and bounds. If he chooses to stand up, I’ll knock him out. If he chooses to take me down, I’ll submit him."
UFC Interim Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir continues his confidence campaign with his recent comments about the pale-skinned goliath that awaits him at UFC 100 on July 11. Brock Lesnar, who defeated Randy Couture at UFC 91 to capture the UFC heavyweight belt, has already proven that he's dangerous on his feet with his TKO of "The Natural" and his drubbing of Heath Herring at UFC 87. But did he learn his lesson from his debut (a submission loss to Mir) or will history repeat itself?
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sure sounds like your being cocky already….im sure not a fan of brock and def not a fan of mir……..but….leasnar should murder him…thus reason for a super heavy weight division
by kapp1179 on Jul 1, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you on the Super HW division. I don’t see most guys at 225 lbs ever being a challlenge for Guys like Lesnar. In addition, we have up and comers like Lashley and Carwin (to name a couple), that are learning how to combine their huge size with some skill. If we see a lot more of this type of HW (260-280 lb plus) fighter, then I really think it’s time for Dana and Joe S. to consider a SHW division.
by Jrandolph on Jul 1, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah 207 to 265 is a huge gap largest by far of any other weight class there should be like a 230 225 class and then the 265 class
by getrawbc on Jul 1, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are not enough huge guys to make a division like that. There aren’t many Brock Lesnar’s walking around right now.
by naturalshadow on Jul 1, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They been playin around with that cruiser weight idea for a while now; I don’t think it would ever happen but it would really benefit guys like Cro Cop, AA, Couture, Nog, Valasquez; they’re undersized when they go up against the guys that weigh a solid 250+ lbs.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
225-235 should be the max for HW.
There is too much of a size discrepancy, which gives Bork an automatic advantage, but maybe that’s what Dana White wants. Either have a SHW division or make Lesnar cut weight.
I wish they had weigh-ins the day of the fight, I still think it’s BS that fighters walk into the octagon with 15 extra pounds and it’s legal.
by KS on Jul 1, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar is cutting weight; he doesn’t walk around at 265 lbs, he’s got to cut like 20-30 lbs to make the HW limit as is.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha Bork.
I know that was probably a typo but I like it.
by Brandon on Jul 1, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, here is my idea for the weight divisions. In the lower wight classes it goes up every 15 pounds up to 185. Then Light Heavyweight should be 200 instead of 205. This would help the smaller light heavyweights out as well such as Wandy or Henderson who didn’t want to go to 185 for a while.
Then at 215 or 220, you can have a cruiserweight division. (keep in mind when I say 215 or 220, that means guys that are 230 can cut down to the 215 or 220 limit.)
This leaves the guys that are basically 230 and higher in the heavyweight division. They could also choose to cap the heavyweight division at 270 instead of 265.
What do you guys think?
by ProKev on Jul 1, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is as naturalshadow describe it. There just isn’t enough legit 250 pounders. I mean you would need at least numbers like Brock, Fedor, Josh Barnett, Brett Rogers, Tim Slyvia, Gonzaga, Werdum, Kongo, and a couple more just to make the division cometitive and the problem as you already know is half of who I just named aren’t in the UFC.
by getrawbc on Jul 2, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor’s never weighed 250lbs in his life!
by attakdog on Jul 2, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought the exact same thing after reading his statement, if thats not being cocky then I would hate see how dumb he sounds when he actually is being cocky.
by Cantrim on Jul 1, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ever since he took out Nog he’s been on cloud 9 and can’t shut up about how good he’s become, he’s a lot like the old Frank Mir now, not humble but cocky. Lesnar will be too much for him, his reach & GnP will be the deciding factor
by DAVE A on Jul 1, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God HW fights are boring as it is, SHW whould be horrible!
by Yourmomma on Jul 1, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m already tired of Mir. Look say you’ll submit Lesnar, fine. Frank has the tools to submit anyone in the HW division. But, he needs to take it easy here, he knocked out a tired and sick Big Nog and suddenly he has hands of steel. Frank, please shut the f$ck up and fight.
by Jeff on Jul 1, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Has Brock even said anything about the fight? Frank’s comin out with a new line two-three times a day. I thought the fists were supposed to do all the talking..
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Murr really that confident in his striking to think he’s going to KO Lesnar? I’m sure Brock has seen the Mir-Nog tape enough to recognize the same sloppy combo that Murr now thinks is his bread and butter. Murr’s best (only) chance is to flop onto his back as soon as the bell rings and hope Brock goes to the mat with him.
by PW on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if he tags Brock with a good shot the wrestler instincts are gonna kick in and the fight will go straight to the ground. The only reason the Couture fight stayed standing like it did was cause Brock gave up on trying to wrestle with Randy.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point Odamn: I dont think Brock has even uttered a word about this fight yet and I love that approach. Let Mir, shoot off at the mouth on a daily basis….while Brock is quitely plotting a MURDER!
Frank “Hands of steel” Mir! lmfao! “…If I’m cocky”-Mir. when is he not cocky? Guess its going to be a short night for Mir.
by John G on Jul 1, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and doesn’t that speak volumes for Randy. I was really sad when that shot caught him behind the ear. I felt the dandger every time Randy gave him space. If Randy would have kept the entire fight shoulder-to-shoulder Brock might have been tired in the fourth or fifth giving Randy an opportunity to finish.
Anyway, I don’t get all the hate for mir saying he will win and saying how he thinks it will happen. Even when he does come off cocky, bid deal. Since when is that such a huge crime. I guess I don’t mind cocky guys in genreal. Maybe b/c I’m….well, I call it self-confident.
Yes, Brock wins, but why does Mir have to shut his mouth, take a beating, and go away. That’s asking a little much of him isn’t it?
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 1, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure where you get that. Brock just came out the other day and said that Frank wasn’t a particularly skilled or smart fighter and that he was simply “lucky” in his fights.
Neither guy bothers me with the talk…it’s all fight hype.
by Nigel Tufnel on Jul 1, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well the point is Ovaries that these fighters should know their place. If they aren’t supposed to beat somebody they should shut up and lose already. I mean what makes Mir think he was supposed to beat Nog? zomg its ridiculous he isn’t good enough to beat Nog we should take that win away from him. He should also say he’s scared and Brocks punches hurt him bad last time so he’s thinking he can’t win unless he gets lucky. Man thats all we’re asking… in case anyone can’t tell, that is called sarcasm
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Jul 1, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post Cogito, cept for the last sentence there, I didn’t read that part; but the rest of your post is solid and %100 spot on! I think you put it the best. Bravo.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny Cogito. Mir must remind some people of someone who bullied them or something. But I don’t see Mir just putting people down all the time ligh Hughes. He usually talks about why he feels like he’s better than his opponent….seems reasonable.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 1, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
take away the sarcasm, and you got a great post! lol
by John G on Jul 1, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be happier with
“Look at that guy; I’ve got no F*cking chance here people. When I accidently beat Noguera, and realized that I was going to have to fight Brock Lesnar; I pissed right down my leg right then and there.”
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am enjoying this even though we’re on different sides.
How about this. “You all know I curled up like a little girl the first time and the ref saved me.” This time I plan to go full-fetal position immediately and just collect a paycheck. I act cocky because I have a small penis. Brock is a real man whereas I’m just a man bitch. I’m not even top 20 really. I’m sorry for putting on a farce matchup. I’m going to quit after my loss to Brock and kill myself."
Or would John say, “This guy is so arrogant. His penis isn’t small, it’s tiny. And not top 20, no shit…he’s not even a legit pro. And why do we have to wait until after the loss for him to kill himself. Can’t he do it right there in ring?”
Okay, I think I’m done
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jul 1, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You talk like Brock is some great striker! He’s not very good I would def give the edge to Mir in the striking. Brock just has mad heavy hands!
by Yourmomma on Jul 1, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
frank mir could NOT beat heath herring. Herring has been a better fighter than mir for the past 6-7 years! he’s always been better than mir. Mir has no chance against Lesnar this time
by deuce 4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a fool.
Herring lost to Lesnar & Nogueira
by Cut the Blue Wire on Jul 1, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d bet $$ on Herring if he and Mir fought.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would also bet money on Herring over Mir. Hearing would beat the crap out of Mir!
by John G on Jul 1, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get real, your hate for Mir has blinded you beyond a doubt. Mir would easily submit Herring.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Jul 1, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Herring would TKO him, Heath isn’t dumb enough to go to the ground with Mir and it’s not like Mir’s TD’s are the greatest thing since sliced bread either.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if Mir would even beat Herring.
by Wes on Jul 1, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no i just honestly dont think Mir is any good….why is that so hard to believe?
by John G on Jul 1, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nog and Fedor cant submit Herring but Frank “Gracie-God” Mir can? Yeah right. And on the feet, we know who wins that one too.
by Big D on Jul 1, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, get off my nuts. I got Mirs back, I’ll jump in there and fight Brock with him. Whats up!
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Jul 1, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like you would jump in to bed with mir too if mir asked you too.
by hum on Jul 1, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WAR MIR!!!!!!!! Break Brocks “Black Mans body”
by Cut the Blue Wire on Jul 1, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my boy Justin McCully would have a good chance against Frank Mir too, and that was why the UFC decided to not let Mir fight him, and to justify Mir’s win over Lesnar they let Lesnar beat Herring and Couture so Mir would look better, and then Mir got the biggest luck ever when he fought an injured Nog…
by RoB on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is nothing really. All of the pre-fight videos say the exact same thing. Except maybe class guys like Rich and Anderson. His comments about Nog not being able to last 2 rounds with him were out of line though.
by Kimura88 on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only reason why we don’t here anything from Anderson…no on cares…and no one understands a word out of his mouth.
by Preston on Jul 1, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about. Everybody cares about Silva and he always has a translator so he can say whatever he wants. Silva is just too good so he doesn’t need to talk trash.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Jul 1, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Anderson talks alot of crap, which is one reason i don’t like him.
by Blackbeard on Jul 1, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When has he talked crap example please Blackbeard.
by hum on Jul 1, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait, If brock chooses to stand up, Frank will knock him out. If brock chooses to take mir down, he’ll submit him. how can Brock win then?
by horny for gina on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point, Brock is completely screwed here. Frank’s word is law.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like his only options are taking Mir up or standing down then?!?!
by Ca$z on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he will do a flying double leg takedown bang mirs head on the cage knock him out whilst hes in the air flying he will win that way
by boyer on Jul 1, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BY DEATH!!!! Book it you fools, it’s a lock!! I have never been more sure of any fight in my life!! I will sell my house and put the money on Bock!!
Okay, I just wanted to see how that felt, kinda cool actually.Seriously though, Brock by TKO, 3 or 4th rnd.
by Jrandolph on Jul 1, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling this fight will be a short one. Brock by tko in the first.
by nathan on Jul 1, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you guys ever heard of hyping a fight?
Is Mir supposed to say, “Gee, I hope I can submit him again because that’s probably my only chance.”
You need to realize these guys aren’t just walking into media outlets and dropping a few one liners. People are interviewing them. And yes, Mir is being interviewed more because he’s training in Vegas, where MMA is king while Brock is up in Minnesota where there isn’t much media of any kind.
by Mahde on Jul 1, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man if he’s hyping the fight then this is some boring @ss sh!t, Mr. T in Rocky 3 did a better job hyping up a fight with Balboa “Paper Champion, I pity the foo” “I’ll bring your wife home, show her what a real mans like”. Thats what I wanna hear from Frank.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course Mr. T did a better job hyping the fight in Rocky 3! Those are some classic lines!
by Diceman on Jul 1, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey anyone that has the balls to talk about sleeping with Brock Lesnar’s wife before a fight wins me over as a fan for life.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve just thought, isn’t is a bit weird that she still goes by her ring name?
Wonder if Doink The Clown introduces himself as such at parties?
by Nick J on Jul 1, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Doink was one of the guys in ICP?
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even worth bringing up :(
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao trailer trash music nick j thats all
by Jared on Jul 1, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw some dude this week driving around with an ICP sticker in his back windshield. And the car wasn’t even old enough to have been made during ICP’s very brief hey-day. Kind of sad, really.
by PW on Jul 1, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is still a difference between hyping a fight and believing in your own hype. Unfourtunately, Frank is believing in his own hype.
by Jeff on Jul 1, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
u don’tknow that, ur one of the ppl that wanted nog to shut him up but he did’nt so u hate mir for winning..
by guyverbob on Jul 1, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I don’t hate on Mir for winning (actually, like him as a fighter). I hate on Mir for running his mouth non-stop. Hype your fight, okay.
It is just the way Mir carries himself pre and post fight. Also, I don’t put too much stock in what the TUF editors show us. That said, Mir looked like an ass after TUF with all the talk and continues to look like an ass with all the talk.
by Jeff on Jul 1, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man shut up… let these geniuses talk Brock up so the line goes in his favor and I can make a few bucks off of Brock getting stomped… help a brother out and such
by Sp00ner1234 on Jul 1, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This when over Nog, is like Griffin over Shogun. They were both a shell of themselves. Even the win over Rampage was questionable. The difference is that Mir now thinks he is really that good, and Griffin stayed humble and just took in stride. I hope Mir gets KTFO!!!
by JTK5 on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I hope its a double KO though as I both think they are both pricks.
by Ca$z on Jul 1, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock will win I give mir a 20% chance of winning
Lesnar
Gsp
Hendo
Bonnar
Fitch
by king criminales on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This when over Nog, is like Griffin over Shogun. They were both a shell of themselves. Even the win over Rampage was questionable. The difference is that Mir now thinks he is really that good, and Griffin stayed humble and just took in stride. I hope Mir gets KTFO!!!
This is why I never post – just read. My shit never goes up, what is the deal with this F*CKING SITE!!!
by JTK5 on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with Mir with regards to submitting Lesnar. If Frank gets taken down, he better be quick and reverse position or get back to his feet. I don’t see him wanting to keep Brock and his army of hammer fists in his guard for long. Not to mention that Brock’s back is so wide that it may make it difficult to play the guard game off Mir’s back. The best bet for Mir to submit Brock is to work from the top..possibly catching him in a sub during a scramble.
by A Lynch on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How are Murr and his non-existent wrestling going to get an All-American and two-time national champ onto his back?
by PW on Jul 1, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murr should be training with Bisping’s wrestling guy. Bisping’s camp is convinced that he’ll out-wrestle Hendo.
by TabascoSAUCE on Jul 1, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir’s already too “cocky”. He TKO’d a half dead Big Nog and suddenly think’s he’s Cro Cop circa 2006!
Frank your standup sucks. Try trading with Brock and it’ll be a very short night for you!
by attakdog on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You cant say Lesnar has good stand up either attak, he has alot of power, but his form and technique are garbage
by Dave on Jul 1, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 UFC fights and he’s decked each of his opponents, I’d say it’s pretty decent. I never said he had “good” standup. Mir maybe technically better (debatable) but I’d take Brocks power every day!
by attakdog on Jul 1, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone with decent stand up technique would see the ham hocks coming a mile off and counter him all day.
Someone is gonna expose Brock as the big, crude lump that he is and then all this talk will cease. As strong as he is he still couldn’t put away a cowering Heath Herring in 3 rounds of him just lying on all fours and I thought GnP would be his strong point.
by Ca$z on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please tell me who this great HW striking technician will be to expose Brock. And dont say Cro Cop!
Heath Herring is a veteran who’s fought everyone and in full turtle shell mode. Very hard to put away especially in your third mma fight.
by attakdog on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Attak its starting to sound like you are a bit of a lesnar fan, i mean come on, its one thing to hate Frank, but to like Lesnar??? Thats bush league attak lol
by Dave on Jul 1, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do like Lesnar, I think what he’s achieved so far is remarkable, even more so seeing as he’s fighting the biggest ballbag in the whole of the UFC.
by attakdog on Jul 1, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is wrong with liking Lesnar? I don’t watch wrestling so I have no idea what he did wrong there, but why does everyone hate him? Was he a bad guy or do something prior to UFC? Besides the steroids he took for Vince was there any other reason not to like him?
by jay on Jul 1, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think guys dislike on Brock because he’s seen as all power and no technique. The kind of guy that will just bully people around in the cage, lay on them, and win by decision. He’s not a finisher (yet), and fans like technical guys that finish fights. Other than his massive size and notoriety from the WWE, Brock is a boring MIXED martial artist.
Look at the other UFC Champs: BJ Penn, GSP, Anderson Silva, Machida. All technical, all can stand, all have sick jiu jitsu, all can finish. Remember, the average UFC fan didn’t even know who Machida was until he started finishing guys.
I give it to Brock though. He’s accomplished more in what 3-4 fights than most guys will do in their whole careers.
by TabascoSAUCE on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar has been tested hundreds of times and never came up positive. Not in the NCAA, not in WWE, not in the NFL, not in UFC. Yes, he is a big scary man, but he has always been a big scary man. He wrestled collegiately at about 290, which is right about where he was in WWE.
by PW on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PW you can pass hundred tests, and still get caught one day… I don’t know if that’s possible anymore though cause he might not be “on” something these days…
by RoB on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man….. Gotta disagree….
Mir
Silva
Hendo
Bonnar
Fitch
I think Silva is gonna pull an upset. GSP doesnt have an awesome chin.
by Arrrrgggggg on Jul 1, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure he does, Serra had to knock him down 2-3 times and then tag him with an additional 10-15 shots before he ended the fight.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know why everyone questions GSP’s chin. He got hit in the back of the head!!
by WB on Jul 1, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are many Silva’s in the UFC, none of which are fighting GSP, but we know what you meant, the Brazilian.
by ViolentMike on Jul 1, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol but thats lil matt serra compared to big and better striker alves
by ian on Jul 1, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know your on a god damn mma site you should be able to tell the difference
alves – ww with awesome muay thai and devistating power
silva – lhw with BAD STANDUP and amazing gnp.. and he sucks
by Jared on Jul 1, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s just too many damn Silva’s in this sport…
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is assuming Silva passes a pee test….
by Arrrrgggggg on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man wouldnt it be funny if brock submitted mir.i know one a million chance but if you remember he had a great chance to put herring in a guillotine but it meant falling to his back into bottom position to sink it in.and we all know wrestlers hate being on their back!
by scott on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont think Mir will dictate where this fight ends up. It will be Brock by smashing unless Mir catches him in something while getting smashed. I think this will be GSPs biggest challenge yet, I think we will definitely see who much punishment he can take, if you are going to beat Thiago you must willing to take some heavy shots. This could be interesting, as a GSP fan Im a little nervous about this one.
by Spyder on Jul 1, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mir isnt saying he will dictate anything, he has already said that the fight is going to go where lesnar wants it to, and he has to be ready for anything
by Dave on Jul 1, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a lighter note, am I the only one who noticed that this happens to be a very anti-Mir website. I mean I know he says alot of things that rub people the wrong way, but it seems like everytime im trying to defend him, no one at all has my back. I know there are alot of Frank Mir fans out there, but I guess they just dont visit this forum lol
by Dave on Jul 1, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t hate Murr, I’ve just been driving the Lesnar War Wagon since the day he signed with UFC.
by PW on Jul 1, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
although scared to write this on this site bc i agree with you, but Mir is the much better fighter. I think Mir will win. In fact, i think he should be the favorite. Mir is really smart, knowledgeble, and completely underrated. He is certainly deserving of this title shot and when he beats Brock for the second time, there should be no doubt that he is the #1 HW in the UFC.
by horny for gina on Jul 1, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Mir creates the lack of fans. His personality sucks. He’s so incredibly, nauseatingly arrogant. Confidence is a much needed quality in any fighting sport but his arrogances just turns people off man!
by Wes on Jul 1, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but thats not the point of what i posted Wes, I already know your opinion and mine is different. Im just saying that despite your hatred, there are alot of Mir fans out there, and they just dont frequent this website, and it gets really annoying seeing all of the over the top hatred anytime there is any sort of article about Mir. So basically what I was doing was making a statement more so than an opinion.
by Dave on Jul 1, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem dude. I used to be somewhat of a Mir fan. But he turned me off.
by Wes on Jul 1, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you meant to say Alves.. not Silva. And thats a tough one to judge; Alves has been tough ever since he got caught using roids. Hes def not the same guy that got triangled by Spencer or even rocked bad by Derrick Noble(Alves won, but nearly got finished). That dude is a MONSTER now. BUT, I still think GSPs striking is too crisp and his wrestling is too good. I definitely think it will be a great fight, I just dont see Alves taking it.
Mir has gotten better but he’s still the same dude that got his ass WHOOPED by Brandon Vera. Call me crazy, but I think that Brock Lesnar is SO STRONG and is picking the sport up so quick, that I could possibly see him subbing Frank. Maybe by some form of choke like an arm triangle, guillotine, or rear naked. I would be shocked if Frank wins this fight or if it goes to decision. And no, I am not a WWE fan.
Lesnar
GSP
Hendo
Bonnar
Fitch
by Ol' Jack Burton on Jul 1, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wont accuse you of being a wwe fan, i just think Brock is a dick lol
by Dave on Jul 1, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wont disagree, I think he’s a dick too… AND has one tattooed on chest! haha
by Ol' Jack Burton on Jul 1, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? Go back through the last few weeks of threads on this site and see how much crap Murr is talking and how much Brock has said. Then reevaluate your opinion on which fighter is actually the dick.
by PW on Jul 1, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank’s not a dick, dude, he is just super cocky.. Trust me I dont like him either.. And yeah, Brock IS kind of a prick, but he’s an honest and entertaining prick, and I dig it.. The ONLY thing I didnt like that hes done is when he did the rope wrangling thing after the Herring fight. Before the fight = hillarious… after the fight = disrespectful.
by Ol' Jack Burton on Jul 1, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whether you think Frank Mir is a dick or not, that doesnt make Brock Lesnar NOT a dick. The guy is a snide, jerk who doesnt exactly come off as fan friendly. Maybe to some people it doesnt matter how fighters carry themselves, but I prefer a fighter who is going to be up front, and confident with his opinions, than a guy who doesnt even think enough of UFC fans to even embrace them. I literally see Brock in the UFC for the same reason he was in the wwe, MONEY!!! Now I know what im saying is just speculation, but its just my opinion
by Dave on Jul 1, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must be a dick too, because I go to my job for money.
by PW on Jul 1, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but with all due respect to whatever it is you do PW, your soul motivation at your job is just money. When someone is lucky enough to become a a pro athlete, the money is pretty much guaranteed, but the passion and love for the sport you play should be the most important thing, and i dont see that with lesnar. I just dont think he cares as much about mma as most of the guys who do it for a living.
by Dave on Jul 1, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He cares enough to put in the 6 or 8 hours a day in the gym. Some guys, Wandy comes to mind, love fighting enough that they would do it for free. Brock is a very marketable commodity with a limited shelf-life. He’s capitalizing on it and working very hard at it.
by PW on Jul 1, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont’ think Brock’s main motivation is money; he’s already rich, he can walk away right now, retire and live comfortably the rest of his life. He doesn’t make anywhere near what he made in the WWE.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed ~
i dont think its his “main” motivation, but money is a reason for all fighters who fight~ even wand!
by stinky~fingers on Jul 1, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, this is going to be a fooking great fight!!!! can’t wait LOL
by Alex on Jul 1, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Atleast his is not cocky! He should be fine! LOL
God I hope Brock just detroys this clown!
by BADGUY on Jul 1, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This guy is something else. He beats an inexperienced Brock Lesnar and an injured and sick Nogueria and thinks he’s superman. Talk about a false sense of security. He’s only a legend in his own mind! He’s really not that good. We’ll all see that come July 11.
by Rich on Jul 1, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only cockyness I sense is coming from this thread from internet touh guys lmao. Sounds like u all got all the answers yet I think most all of u woulndnt say a thing to murr if u saw him on the street.
“Internet toughness: cuz talking shit in person is dangerous!”
by Hex on Jul 1, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Hex, this is an opinion forum. So we’re all giving our opinion. Like em or not! If you don’t like em don’t read em.
by Rich on Jul 1, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Btw Mir I no it’s a long shot but I’m a sucker for the underdogs. Go for it!
by Hex on Jul 1, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Btw I’ve got a soft spot for the underdogs so for Mir:go for it!
by Hex on Jul 1, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do you guys put Nog as such a great fighter still. He took to many beatings in his days. He fought herring and almost got knockout if herring had killer instinct that would of been a loss. He fought sylvia and was getting dominated before he got a sub. You can only survive a beating so many times before you drop and dont get up and with mir that was the case. Everyone says he was injured he took the fight no excuses he got beat fair and square. Does nog use the injury as an excuse? Then why do you….
by desperus on Jul 1, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it will be a short night for him regardless.
by nathan on Jul 1, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually like listening to Frank’s intelligent commentary and interviews but the dude is cocky. Just look at his photo above.
Pulling for Lesnar to avoid those killer Mir submissions and take him down and pound him out.
Please Brock no paddy cake hammer fists this time!!!!
by sudnvictory on Jul 3, 2009 4:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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