Dan Henderson vs Michael Bisping UFC 100 video fight talk

I got +300 on him on sportbook. It was after listening to the radio show mania linked to. They announced the odds and I couldn’t believe it. They’ve tightened way up since then.

I really don’t know how this fight will go. I’m looking forward to it.

Bodog opened at +300

ATTENTION MMA FANS*** Dana White is tripping again:

“I hear that all mma managers were informed that if any of their clients not currently under contract with the UFC….. sign to be a part of the EA game (video game)…….they will forever be banned for fighting in the UFC.”

THat is TERRIBLE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!! Hope that this is BS!

There’s another mma game comin out??

Machida unveils the secret to his UFC success:

“Before the fight, I stay breathing, concentrating, imagining how the fight would be, and my father sings a samurai song to me, and it helps me a lot”, revealed the champion.

I love this whacky MOFO!!!

anyone got any ancient samurai songs in their Ipod? lol

Machida makes Michael Jackson seem positively normal!

FOCK DANA WHITE and FOCK THE UFC!!!*

Frankie Lester has been released from his UFC Contract!

this kid is a YOUNG WARRIOR who showed a ton of heart, grit and toughness on this past season of TUF. He fought like 10 times in 5 days hahaha, and always BROUGHT IT! This news really saddens me because I feel like he laid it all on the line, time and time again and improved tremendously throughout the course of the season….This guy deserves to fight in the UFC a little longer!!!!!!!!!!

yeah Odamn! EA sports is coming out with an mma game. I hear that Fedor will be on the cover. I also heard that fighters like couture and Machida will be in the game…I dont know how thats possible, but whatever!

Hope Dana is not serious about banning anyone who signs on to join the new game. I usually side with Dana on most things but this is over the top. I’m generally unmotivated but I literally would start a petition to get Dana removed as president if he starts trying to impose bans on fighters based on them signing a video game contract. That has no basis for how well a fighter is and it prevents deserving people from making it into the UFC. I’m getting pretty tired of Dana these days and all the crap he’s making us fans miss out on. The UFC could sign a lot of valuable fighters if Dana wasn’t so vocal on his opinions. The problem is it no longer appears like he cares about MMA, all of his work is just about the UFC and making it the only brand… When your brand is as strong as it is there is no reason to act so much like a bully. Dana needs to grow up, all he has done so far with his criticism of other companies is help them grow by putting their name in the news, with his disputes with fighters he loses valuable fighters and lets them go to other orgs to build them up. Wake up man, this is getting ridiculous.

Great post corgito.

If he wants this much control over the guys similar to what NBA, NFL, MLB has over its players, then he needs to pay them like other pro athletes.

Well Dana & the UFC did banned from the Octagon another brand of clothing lines(Hayabusa).

I would hope thats not the case, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Even if these guys aren’t getting $$$ out of it they’ll get some publicity; it’s unreasonable to take away from these fighters and not offer them anything in return. I could understand counter programming on another show or PPV, but this is a direct attack on all fighters regardless of which org they’re fighting in. And just cause they’re banned from the UFC doesn’t mean they were ever gonna make it there in the first place. He’s trying to force them to pass up an opportunity based on the POSSIBILITY that MAYBE one day they end up in the UFC?? Thats douche baggery at it’s finest.

I’m waiting for confirmation on the video game ban. John is a reliable source (as always), but damn that sounds like a false rumor. Here’s hoping. As for banning Hayabusa, why? Alpha, you have any background info on this?

And John if you find that Samuri song for your ipod, please post the link. Thanks. Anyone in the Dallas area up for the September UFC (102, I think) at AAC? Trying to get a group together.

Jeff, I’m in Euless, but finances and a possible vacation might conspire against me seeing the UFC live. Keep me posted, though, and I’ll see what I can do.

Will do, PW. I’m still a bit up in the air myself, as my wife is giving birth in August. I’ll keep you posted.

There it is Jeff…

Hayabusa Fight Wear Added To UFC Banned List

http://mmapayout.com/2009/06/hayabusa-fight-wear-added-to-ufc-banned-list/

great posts guys, and I pretty much agree with all of you.

Jeff: I dont know how credible this is…I think this quote came from GOldenBoy productions. I just figured I would pass it on. Appologize in advance if it turns out to be false, but I cant always be right..lol just joking.

Counterprogramming is one thing…but if this is true, Its absolutely Ridiculous. When Dana creates a beef between, for example: Ufc vs. Affliction, thats one thing, but when he starts banning fighters from coming to the UFC over a TQ vs. EA Sports video game beef…well then thats out of control!

Hopefully this isnt true, but if it is…Dana has reached an all time low

Lester actually only fought 4 times in a span of about a 4 – 5 weeks,.

Can’t think of the kids name right now, but the kid I was rooting for at K-1 Lodz, the Ukranian that lost in the finals. The night before the K-1 Lodz event he took part in the European Muay Thai Championships – a one day, 8 man tourny – and he won it. Immediately after, he jumped on a plane to go to Lodz where he competed in the K-1 toury and he made the finals. That is SIX fights in 24 hours. That is F’ing INSANE!!!

I was referring to Sergei Lascenko (La – shank – o)

Thanks, Alpha. Dana and the UFC are pushing the fighters to unionize. I see where this is a great deal for the UFC, monetarily. However, this is not the best business plan in my eyes as it essentially takes money out of the fighters pockets. I guess UFC is an acronym for Ultimately For the Company.

Hopefully Dana isn’t childish enough to ban quality fighters over a video game, then again he did try and fire Fitch over it. Stupid to be honest, why shouldn’t fighters outside of the UFC sign up for a video game, especially those who weren’t asked to be in the UFC game. Having competition between MMA games is great for the fans and the sport, but these tactics seem really unneccessary to me.

Gutted for Lester, he was a true warrior and deserved a spot in the UFC. I didn’t see his fight with Nick, but losing to the the top 2 British WWs from TUF does not warrant a firing in my opinion, especially for a tough and popular contestant. He’ll be a decent signing for another promotion.

I guess you COULD say that Attackdog….bUt I think that Bisping’s chin doesnt get enough credit. I am fully aware of the fact that Hendo throws BOMBS…but Bisping went toe to toe with Mark Epstein, who hits about has hard as anyone Bisping will ever face…Epstein BLasted Bisping with some huge shots and it didnt even rattle the counts chin.

Bisping has yet to even be rocked inside of the Octagon and he has faced a few big punchers like Rashad. I watched an interview with Rampage about 6 months back, and he spent about 3 full minutes raving about Bisping’s chin. He said they go at each other HARD in training and that he has yet to even stun Bisping. Not to many fighters out there are gonna hit harder then Rampage.

Attackdog is right however. Conventional wisdom says that Hendo has the best shot at ending this fight….but this post was intended to point out that Bisping doesnt get half the credit he deserved for having a GRANITE chin! Combine his Granite chin, with the fact that his speed and footwork (fighting on the outside) will make it really hard for Hendo to land a clean shot, makes me believe that this fight is DESTINED to be put in the hands of the judges.

This fight will go to a decision, but I expect it to be a very entertaining and hard fought fight. Its not going to be pretty, but I think Bisping takes a big step towards silencing the haters with his performance against Hendo!

Doubtful whether he’ll silence the haters john (me included). It’s all about the manner of his victory. If he gets another controversial decision like the Hammill fight he certainly wont, nor will he if he back peddles the whole time like the Leben fight. If he can demonstrate finishing skills and KO or sub an old warrior like Hendo then that will certainly silence a lot of haters and I’ll be the first to praise him.

Bizzzzbing’s chin maybe good John but I think if Dan hits him on the button the count will be out for the count! Dont think he’ll get close enough to unleash though.

i see it kind of similair to the wanderlei/franklin fight… henderson is wanderlei and franklin is bisping… henderson has all the opportunity to finish the fight, while bisping’s only real shot at winning is a decision, which makes me lean toward henderson because even if bisping supposedly outpoints henderson, you never know how the judges will score it… so basically i see henderson as a 2 to 1 favorite in this fight… not to mention he can dictate where the fight goes if he is losing in any area… to john: you have doubted henderson against poquino and franklin and he has proved you wrong both times! im feeling the hat trick! gotta start believing man!

Attakdog; what would you have had him do in the Leben fight… stand there and get KO’d??? It’s not like he wasn’t fighting, look at Lebens face after that fight; he was JACKED up. I’m a Machida hater, so I can’t stand the running; but Bisping vs Leben wasn’t 15 mins of back peddling, there was A LOT of action in that fight.

There wasn’t odamn, I was there and the crowd weren’t into it at all.

I don’t blame him particularly for the leben fight but it’s horrible to watch. If he’s supposed to be such a fantastic striker as people say, then I think he should be looking to put bums like leben away! Admittedly he’s a tough bum, but I think you should be looking to put on a bit of a show for your home fans and look for a finish against a guy who’s in nobodys top 20. AS managed to put him away so he’s not invincible and AS is who Bizzzzbing will be facing when he beats Dan. If you cant finish Leben, what hope does he have of finishing AS??

You cannot compare the Leben that fought Bisping to the Leben that fought Anderson Silva. Two completely different fighters; the Leben that fought Bisping was roided up, in the best shape of his life and newly dedicated to the sport, running his new gym in Hawaii and training full time. The Leben that fought A. Silva was a tough brawler drunkard 185 lbs version of Tank Abbot.

You may well be right odamn, I’m not convinced though. If you’re so dedicated, training full time etc. Why take Roids? I just think the amount of smoke people blow up Bizzzzbings ass about his “world class” striking, you should be looking to finish guys like him. It’s just my opinion that’s all.

IMO, the roids thing isn’t for the performance as much as it is just getting cut up and looking good. It’s not like he wasn’t making the weight or too small for it; Leben just always had that soft out of shape look to him. I don’t know whats its like to be on a PPV and know that millions of people are watching me fight; but I’d wanna look the part at least.

Never bothered Chuck Liddell lol

Yea but Chuck just don’t give a f*ck; they didnt’ call him the Iceman for nothing.

Thought that was to do with his “party lifestyle”

The Iceman nick name?? Nah, it was cause he never showed any type of emotion before a fight. He was just cool and calm; didn’t look like he had a care in the world. Fedor Style. I could be wrong, but thats what I thought he got the nickname for.

I have been back and forth a few times with attakdog about Bisping and pointed out a few things that you mentioned O damn, but attakdog doesn’t want to know or listen to reason. He is 100% a Bisping hater. I have given up trying. If somebody dislikes a fighter there is not much you can do about it. I used to hate Koscheck big time, but after the Alves fight and his interviews afterwards, I changed my opinion of him, he seemed to have matured and seemed a lot more humble. I think attakdog would like to see some sort of Jorge Gurgel action from Bisping, but Bisping knows that sort of fighting will get you KTFO if you try it with certain fighters. Why is it ok for wrestlers to take someone down and keep them down, delivering shots without really getting hit themselves,to avoid getting KTFO like Cain did against Kongo, but when a striker uses striking skill and footwork to deliver punches without taking too much damage certain people make an issue out of it. Why doesn’t anyone have an issue with it when its is man on man action.

brendan: I did doubt Hendo against Franklin and Toquino…not because I dont like Hendo…he was one of my favorites in Pride, but I firmly believe that he has lost a step, and thats the reason I pick against him.

Sure he beat Toquino and Franklin, but nOTHING TO WRITE HOME ABOUT. The Toquino fight sucked, and I still feel that Franklin should have been awarded the decision over Hendo.

Bisping is a much better athlete than people give him credit for. He has a really good mix of being Fast and technical, while having the luxury of being one of the bigger guys in the division. He was a tough kat when he fought at LHW, always being at a physical disadvantage against anyone he faced. Since the drop to middleweight, his skills have increased drastically. NOw that he is coming into his own and enjoying size advantages for a change, I expect for him to make a jump into the upper echelon of the middleweight division.

great post ADE

Jesus Christ Ade you keep banging on about this wrestlers argument every single day, nobody cares!!!

Wrestlers DO get a hard time for their “wet blanket” and “lay and pray” game, you’re not the first person to criticise negative wrestlers.

As for your buddy Bizzzzbing, you and others need to stop raving about this guys incredible striking like he’s the MW answer to Machida. His striking isn’t that fantastic otherwise he’d have been able to finish Leben with one of the 500 punches he must have landed.

Till he can convincingly beat big name fighters without having to rely on judges scorecards then I will continue not to be a fan.

Ooooo, I get it now Attakdog, Iceman in reference to drugs; har har. Sorry I’m a little slow on the up take today.. :(

Lol, It was a bit subtle.

I wasn’t critising wrestlers and I don’t post everyday. I was talking about wretlers who inflict damage without taking damage, not lay and pray or wet blanket, and how that is acceptable to most, but a striker being smart with striking and footwork inflicting damage and not taking any gets a verbal beatdown for not fighting like a man. It’s a valid point, you may not care, which means nothing to me, but others who do not have an issue with reason or logic, may want to share their thoughts on the point. Please do not respond Attakdog, I do not waste my time responding to your comments anymore, feel free to do the same with mine.

I want to see Bisping vs Nick Diaz. I think Nick would pick him apart and you know Bisping would want no part of the ground either.

You could have fooled me Ade, you cant wait to leap to Bizzzzbings defence every time I post, now you’re whineing to other like minded people looking for allies.

I don’t know why my opinion matters to you so much, just get over it! I think Bizzzzbing’s boring as sh!t to watch, overrated and an @sshole as a person, it’s just my opinion, dont take it to heart all the time. Nothing you EVER say will change that, only Bizzzzbing can change my opinion.

Make sure you stay true to your word this time by not “wasting your time responding to my comments anymore”

good fight VM

Trying to get into a debate with attakdog over Bisping is as pointless as getting into one with me over Guida, nothing will sway us from disliking these fighters. I like Dan, but I’m desperate for Bisping to win this so I can see Andy in Manchester.

Hate to admit it but I actually really enjoy his Brash personality and accent. I also dont think he is as much of an ass as he is portrayed. He is a big beliver in .
mental warfare, and I think a lot of the time, that his get under your skin attitude is calculated and seves a purpose.

Besides missing the british mr. T’s fight he came off really well as a coach of TUF this past season. He was ADORED by all his fighters, and seemed to genuinly care about them. I actually think that he is the perfect ambassador for the UFC in the UK

John you sure you only “like” this guy, I think it goes a bit deeper ;-)

How anyone can say they like that whiney drawl of an accent of his is beyond me.

I guess he kind of reminds me of a good money of mine from the UK

You have to understand that Bisping’s abrasive attitude is just the British banter really, a lot of Americans in particular seem to take themselves too seriously, lighten up!

I am as pleasant a guy as there is but in the ring I’m a mean cocky bastard, I’ll put my hands by my side, stick my head forward and smile if I know I’m faster than them, I’ll do all the Rocky style “my grandmother hits harder than that” talk in close, but at the end of the fight I’ll shake the guy’s hand and buy him a beer.

Take a look at Arnie’s verbal destruction of Lou Ferigno in “Pumping Iron” for the best example of how to get under someone’s skin. A true pro!

(I find Bisping’s accent a little annoying too, but then I’m from the South West and sound like a farmer/pirate so I can’t criticize)

I disagree, Lennox had it easy, all the greats in HW boxing were either retired or near the end of their carreers when he got to the top. He caught Tyson after he was washed up, he caught Holyfield at 36 years old, I’ll give him the win over Klitschko was impressive; but other than that the guy never really impressed me. And he went GUIDA style on Tyson; that F*cker was scared everytime Tyson got on the inside he went straight for the Huggie Bear manuever. Hell the Ref even threatened to take a point away!

I disagree, Lennox had it easy, all the greats in HW boxing were either retired or near the end of their carreers when he got to the top. He caught Tyson after he was washed up, he caught Holyfield at 36 years old, I’ll give him the win over Klitschko was impressive; but other than that the guy never really impressed me. And he went GUIDA style on Tyson; that F*cker was scared everytime Tyson got on the inside he went straight for the Huggie Bear manuever. Hell the Ref even threatened to take a point away!

Yeah but then he decked him with a punch that would have felled an elephant. Tyson was hardly in the “golden era” of HW boxing either! Jesus Christ he fought Frank Bruno twice. The only great he beat was Larry Holmes and he was washed up!

Yea right, who the hell else KO’s that many fighters inside of 5 rds in their entire carreer?? Michael Spinks and Tilman were both olympic gold/silver medalists in boxing too. He made them look like amatuer trash! The pre Don King Tyson would have MURDERED Lewis.

(And no I’m not saying that he beat Tilman pre Don King era; I’m just sayin that that was the best version of Mike Tyson ever)

That’s naive to say he would have “MURDERED” Lewis. That’s just plain wrong and disrespectful.

An over exaggeration, but he still would have beat his @ss.

And sorry but I’m not a Lewis fan AT ALL. I could sit down and think fantasy match ups all day with Lewis fighting some of the greats in their primes and I wouldn’t pick him to win one of those fights.

Not a Lewis fan? You don’t say!

And I’ll close with this (cause it’s not often I get the opportunity to bash on Lewis) but ESPN doesn’t even have him ranked in the top 50 greatest boxers of all time. He doesn’t even make the list. I’m sure Tyson would be a lot higher on it than he is if not for all of his personal problems.

In ring magazines 80 best list, Lewis Polls 53, a whole 19 places higher than Iron Mike at 72!

I’d rather take the word of the impartial bible of the sport than the word of an American TV station.

At least Ring magazines judgement wont be clouded by hate for Lewis due to the fact that he went to your own back yard every fight and beat every guy who you ever put in front of him.

Pft, screw ring magazine, the only reason Tyson is so low on the list is cause of all the legal crap and for biting off Holyfields ear. As far as skills, power, athleticism, Tyson was by far the better boxer when he was on top.

Tyson’s such a great boxer he was having his @ss handed to him by holyfield, so he had to resort to biting him. His fault. Not the actions of an all time great. Lewis didn’t need to bite Holyfield to gain an advantage, he just outboxed him twice. Don’t tell me you thought the first fight was a draw either.

Holyfield was 36 years old; he was on his way out. That was like one of his last if not his last fight. Tyson obviously has mental problems, thats not debateable; and as his carreer progressed his skills declined. I don’t think Holyfield would’ve beat him in his prime either; he just wasn’t the same fighter after Don King got his hands on him; but in his prime, before all the bullsh!t got to him, he was twice the boxer Lewis was!

Lol, he’s only three years older than Lewis and Holyfields had about 12 fights since.

Had to look that one up, I stand corrected; he was still past his prime when they fought.

Nope, I got no other Brit boxing greats in mind lol; those are the only two that come to me when I think England.

Does Henry Cooper count? lol

If you’re gonna class Prince Naz as a boxing great, I can list you 200 lol. He clearly isn’t, i was thinking more Joe Calzaghe, but then he’s welsh, and you’ve just moved the goalposts to only include English.

You do kick our ass on great boxers, then again ou’re a much bigger country, it just irks me that Lewis never gets the respect he deserves from you americans.

He certainly doesn’t lol

I’m off now odamn, it’s been a good debate, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on Lewis and Tyson.

lol, later

Throw Barry McGuigan, Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank in there too :p

Don’t think they’d make it on to any top 100 greatest ever list unfortunately.

Horrendous what happened to McLellan, that was a serious beating though, from the opening rd to the very end it was just a non stop beating.

Well I guess he got the better of the beginning of the fight but still.

I think Karma caught up with Mclellan, not a nice man at all, few have sympathy for his plight.

Really? He can’t be that much of an a-hole.. or can he?

From what I’ve read about the guy odamn, yes he was! Google the guy and see what comes up, I used to feel sorry for him till I read about his out of boxing interests.

Love how our little argument got hijacked last night. That clown was actually trying to make an argument for Henry Cooper. LMAO just insanely funny. Don’t think people realised we were discussing the greatest boxers of all time.