Yea but expecting the worst and actually dealing with the worst when it gets there are 2 different things. Just cause he’s expecting it doesn’t mean he can stop it.

Though I’m really curious to see how Mir comes into this fight; if he comes in all cut up and in the best shape of his life this could turn in to a really great fight instead of a one sided mauling.

From what Ive heard and seen, he is at the very least, taking this fight very seriously and looking like he is in phenominal shape

I agree with O. I hope Frank can pull something off. His last fight was impressive. I loved the fact that his boxing was his A-game. Let’s see what happens this time.

I sure hope Mir can pull it off, he does sound grounded with his thought and training. On the flip side, I’m interested to see how Brock can handle all the new game he’s learned. For instance, will it slow him down cause he’s thinking too much?

Either way, I can’t wait, I want to see 4 or 5 spectacular rounds, and Mir coming out on top.

No way on gods green earth this fight goes past round two.

i dont think it will go past 2 either.. mir will win before the 3rd.

for all the peeps that are on the brockness cockness~ this is what the stinks thinks of lesnar,

brockness doesn’t have the power most are thinking~ he has never put someone out with one punch..

aside from the temple shot delivered to randy, brock didnt have mir or heath in serious trouble from the "initial punch’ that knocked them down..

both mir and heath were VERY cohearent.. not to mention mir took about four or five hammerfists to the back of the dome, and he still stood up fine..

peeps think brock launched heath across the cage with one punch~ get real!

brockness didnt make him go that far~ heath clearly rolled with the punch as he hit the ground..

and mir wasn’t in immediate trouble when he was dropped either[ off the 1st punch after the stand up]

the only fighter brock dropped with 1 punch and had in trouble was randy~ and he took it on the temple at 45 years of age and still wasn’t ko’d on the one punch~

when brock starts crippling peeps with one punch i will agree with all the people that think brock can kill with a punch..

he has only finished one ufc fight~

mir and heath both took his gnp~ and also took punches standing~

mir will win this fight~ its a lock!

“he has only finished one ufc fight~” Lol, he’s only had three and been in there with the highest level competition.

Herring is one tough SOB to put away and has a world more experience than Lesnar.

As for Frank Mir “taking” Brocks GNP, he was getting knocked senseless till the referee came to his rescue!

To say Brock doesn’t have power is laughable! last time I looked it takes more than the power of positive thought to break a guys orbital bone. He’s decked all three of his UFC opponents at one time without ever catching any of them “on the button” with a big power shot.

Yea I don’t know about your assessment on the guys power there stink; Herring’s eye was busted up pretty bad, it’s more a testament to Heath’s toughness I think than a sign that Brock can’t get behind a punch.

Stink-

Gotta agree w/ Odamn and K-dog here.

I am not a fan of either guy but Brock does have power.

Its a matter of physics :

if its big and moves fast, its gonna hit f*cking hard!

Listen…Herring isnt the best fighter, but he has a world of experience and his best attribute is that he is just Naturally, one tough SOB! No shame in not finishing Herring…who has? Only Cro Cop, Nog, and Fedor, who were all in their PRIME.

I cant possibly see how anyone could think that Brock doesnt hit like a Tank! Go ask Mr. Couture, see what he says!

im not saying he has no power, just that he doesn’t have this ko power yall brag about..

if heath can take that punch and still be cohearent, it definitely shows how tough heath is..but thats not a valid excuse boys..

what about mir who took 4 punches to the back of the dome? he stood up fine when mazz stopped the fight..

not only was he standing cohearent, he took a huge punch standing that dropped him.. and STILL he was cohearent enough to pull put a sub..

look at 45 year old randy~ took a blast on the temple, and brock still had to get down and hit him 12-15 more times to put him out~

yall be crazy!

and odhgc~ my 12 year old cousin just busted his step dads orbital bone with his elbow~

he is about 135 pounds and his step dad is like 200+

it dont take much to cave that in, player~

oh and k-dogg~ mir took two punches right on the button[after the stand up]

and while he was dropped, he was not koed~ he actually finished the fight in the same postition as he was in before he got supoosed ‘rescued’ by mazz..

he took 4-5 hammerfists to the back of the dome and was fine..

what does the stand up have to do with anything~

mir ended up in the same postiiton take brutal hammerfists..

why is it so hard to believe mir wasnt in serious trouble from the 1st gnp[before the stand-up]

he took the same beating right after the stand up~

Stink-

For the record, I don’t think Mir was “rescued”, either.

Do I think Brock will win? YES.

Will I be surprised if Mir wins? NO.

After Serra beat GSP, I don’t believe in “locks” anymore.

Unless its Diego v. Guida!

;)

lol ojr~

but all in all~ i feel everything i stated, happend..

mir took alot of punishment and didn’t look like he was in serious trouble..

my main point i was trying to make was that brock doesn’t have this crazy brutal power peeps are talking about..

they make it seem like no one can weather his storm, when both mir and heath did..

brock didnt even put a 45 year old out until hammering down 15 times after blasting him in the temple..

i hope brock decideds to stand with mir..

i will be more worried if he shoots in right off the bat..

oh and i love these sooo called ‘debates’ when i post a comment~

 yall gang up on me, and u guys dont even debate the facts i post..

everything i said happened, and u guys just want to make it seem like i just had some verbal diareeha after i hit a meth pipe~

what a waste of ‘advice’ from the stink~man..

i dont even think johng read my post.. he just read a positive note on mir, and had to release some of that mir hate~

k-dog didnt even acknowledge any other point aside from me saying ‘brock has only finished one ufc fight’..

he just talks about an irrelavant ‘stand-up’ that had no real outcome on the bout~

did the point taken from brock get used on the score cards?? no~ it didnt go that far.

did brock hit mir in the back of the dome 5 times~ yes

was brock in the exact same position after the ‘rescue’ standup?? yes~ brock knocked frank down with a punch ‘on the button’ and proceeded with the same gnp..

i dont think k-dog ever watched the fight..

Piece of advice, posting 6 consecutive posts spouting the same rubbish doesn’t make you right, nor does constantly referring to yourself in the third person, that just makes you sound delluded about your own self importance.

I acknowledged other points, did you not read my post??? I responded to the fact that you said Mir was in no danger, defended his performance against Herring which you criticised and I also responded to the fact that you said he had no power.

Yes I did see the fight. IMO Mir was rescued by the ref, we’ve all seen worse offences than Brocks rabbit punches go unpunished. Brock may well have caught Mir “on the button” but it was more with a jab or a straight and not a big windup power shot, which just goes to demonstrate how much power he does have if he can drop you with a jab.

stinky you keep saying that mir took 4-5 hammer fists to the back of the dome and was fine, he took one. he took one hammer fist to the back of the head when mazz stepped in. and the point people make about brock’s strength isn’t that he can one hit ko anyone, he’s not looking for a one hit ko, his strength is that he simply goes in and man handles everyone he has fought. he gets easy take downs, and controls them on the ground again easily.

Picking Mir has to be the worst pick I’ve every heard you make Kev. I’d love to see Mir win, but this is a mismatch at this point.

Agreed

CL, the original poster (woody) spoke about Mir out-boxing Lesnar. That is what I was referring to.

Calling Brock an effective striker is even funnier. Striker would be considered to be someone who can land repeated jabs and punches with effectiveness, both of which Brock has not displayed as of yet. Landing one punch followed by a barage of hammerfists hardly makes you an effective striker. Get it?

It does when that one punch puts a guy on queer street and the hammer fists get the fight stopped.

UFC champ do you even know what effective means? it means that you do damage and hurt your opponent with the shots you throw… He’s been extremely effective so far with his striking knocking down all three of his opponents!

No kidding – I don’t think it gets much more “effective” then when you crack a guy’s orbital bone with the first straight you throw, sending him tumbling backward on his ass. Sounds pretty damn effective to me.

Although randy got tko’d, I still think randy was ahead on the stand-up and clinch on that fight til he got clipped.

Thanks guys. Effective means getting results. So far, Lesnar’s striking has done that. It ain’t pretty or technical enough for some obviously….but it’s EFFECTIVE enough to change or end a fight. I’ll take that over simply “landing repeated jabs” that don’t damage the opponent.

Don’t think we’ll see Brock in K1 anytime soon but his standup is definitely effective, no doubt about that.