Joe Riggs vs. Nick Diaz 2 possible for Strikeforce: 'Carano vs. Cyborg' on Aug. 15
by Adam Wagner on Jun 30, 2009 12:38 PM EDT
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The Strikeforce card slated for August 15 could soon see the addition of another fine bout by revisiting a good old fashioned heated rivalry.
Nick Diaz (20-7) may get the opportunity to avenge a 2006 loss to Joe Riggs (30-10), a welterweight fight that could go down at Strikeforce: "Carano vs. Cyborg" at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, California. It's important to note that bout agreements have not been signed at this time -- it is currently in the early stages of discussion.
The two outspoken veterans originally squared off at UFC 57: "Liddell vs. Couture III" in February 2006, which resulted in a close unanimous decision victory for "Diesel"; however, the fighting didn’t stop there. In fact, later that night at the hospital, Diaz and Riggs went at it for another five or 10 minutes, which resulted in "Diesel" literally crapping his shorts when he went for a takedown.
Those little hospital gowns don’t hide a whole lot, now do they? Riggs recently recounted the hilarious story to Larry Pepe, host of Pro MMA Radio, MMAmania.com’s exclusive radio partner.
Despite their hospital altercation, Riggs told Pep that he doesn’t hold a grudge against Diaz — someone "Diesel" calls "one of my favorite fighters to watch" — and that he was only interested in a rematch if a Strikeforce title was on the line.
With the rematch now possibly slated for the main card on August 15, clearly things have changed.
It's a showdown that more than likely can help support the all female main event -- the always-game Diaz has proven that he can carry a card, while the one-time UFC title contender in Riggs is a well-known and crafty veteran with a decent-size fan base in his own right.
In the three-plus years since their last meeting, Riggs has fought 10 times, going 6-4, including his most recent unanimous decision victory over Phil Baroni at Strikeforce: "Lawler vs. Shields" in June, as well as UFC losses to Mike Swick (submission – "Swicko’tine") and Diego Sanchez (KO – knee) and a loss to Kazuo Misaki at Strikeforce: "Playboy Mansion II."
In that same period, Diaz has fought 12 times, going 9-2 with 1 NC, including UFC wins over Josh Neer and Gleison Tibau, in addition to wins over Frank Shamrock and, most recently, Scott Smith at Strikeforce: "Lawler vs. Shields."
The victory over Smith, occurring at a catchweight of 180 pounds, saw Diaz set modern-day MMA records for most total strikes thrown by one fighter in one round (an astounding 221, breaking the previous record Diaz set against Frank Shamrock of 181 punches thrown) and for most total strikes landed by one fighter in one round (125, breaking Michael Bisping’s record of 105 vs. Elvis Sinosic).
Diaz’s losses during that time include a unanimous decision to Sean Sherk at UFC 59 and a TKO loss (due to cuts) to K.J. Noons under the EliteXC banner. The lone No Contest was a highlight reel submission (Gogoplata) victory over then-PRIDE FC lightweight champion and poster boy Takanori Gomi, the result of which was overturned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission after Diaz popped positive for marijuana.
For more on the still-developing Strikeforce: "Carano vs. Cyborg" fight card — which includes a 145-pound title fight between the two headlining female fighters, a lightweight title unification bout between reigning champ Josh "The Punk" Thomson and interim champ Gilbert "El Nino" Melendez, and a heavyweight title bout between champ Alistair Overeem and Brett "The Grimm" Rogers — click here.
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Why?? Joe Riggs is the LAST guy who Diaz should be fighting…Diaz needs stiffer comp then Riggs who needed 3 full rnds to get by Phil…Diaz/Lawler II or Diaz/Shields at a catch is more like it…and why not make it for an interim title till whatshis face is done making “Revenge of the Ninja 8”
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if they put this fight on the undercard I know im not gunna be buying the PPV ill just watch the matches i wanna watch on the net….im sorry but im not lorretta hunt and i could care less about women fighting for 5 rounds
by JG on Jun 30, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diaz Lawer will happen down the road that is main event material.
by Mike on Jun 30, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHY, is exactly the word I would use. I dont think Diaz would fight Shields because they train together. But Diaz/Lawler would be 10 times better! Even Diaz/Benji would be better.
by JV on Jun 30, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot Diaz trained with Jake on occation
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dood it was going to be lawler vs diaz~ but robbie lost his last bout..
i dont know if u guys remember, but i called this news 2 days after the last strikeforce~
wheres my props~ j/k,lol~
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
props Stink…you need it after that Huggie Bear call (which btw you might never live down)… ;)
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the original rumor was that affliction wanted this fight..
and then i posted that strikeforce was considering it~
and then u all laughed~
i do get why most would be upset~ but thats the way fighting is..
the promoters were hoping robbie won~ he didn’t so here we are..
this will be alot better fight then most think~[if it happens]..
riggs is a whole different fighter~ as well as nick..
its good for nick to avenge a loss~ and all u mutha fokers who think nick should be fighting for the mw title?
i do too, but lets face it~ has nick had a fight at 185 yet??
NO~ he is jumping around like the house of pain 160-180.
riggs/diaz 2 is better for nick anyways..
nick avenging a loss~ or giving robbie the chance to redeem himself??
its a no brainer~
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mcarthur~ what guida call??
i told yall it wasn’t going to be easy for diego, and it wasn’t..
i told yall it was going to be fotn, and it was..
hummm sounds like alot of fickle fans here…
im really considering going to sherdog~
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha~ i just got off the phone with a buddy from stockton~
he said riggs is running his mouth about shields still..
get this! riggs is considering refusing this fight…
like i told yall a month ago~ nick will take this fight! he already told strikeforce he would…
he put the ball in joes court~ and now riggs is saying he doesnt need to take a fight like that!!
i think he is still mad that jake wont fight him?\
who knows?~
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In his pro mma radio interview he basically said he doesn’t like to fight guys he’s already beaten, which is understandable because usually there’s not much of an upside. But, on the other hand, currently Nick Diaz is ranked higher than him and doing more in MMA than he is; you’d think a fight with Nick at this point in his carreer would be the opportunity he’s looking for. I can understand him wanting to fight Shields instead though; not that Shields is a slouch, but IMO with the way Diaz looks right now, Shields is an easier fight.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think riggs is just bitter about what jake said!!
and now he has the chance to sign a fight with nick, knowing him and jake are tight, he might refuse too piss of jake!
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think of the two, he thinks he match’s up with Jake better and probably see’s that as not only the easier fight, but the higher profile fight as well. I would pick Nick Diaz to beat Shields all day every day right now.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I don’t think Jake is full on ducking Riggs, but he kind of is; Riggs is a legitimate threat, he’s got the skill to beat Shields when he’s on his game. For Shields though, it’s a high risk no reward fight; so I can see why he wouldn’t want to take it. If he won’t fight Nick Diaz though, then outside of the UFC, he’d be hard pressed to find another legit WW contender aside from Riggs.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point Shields and Diaz would both beat Riggs, a UD over Baroni does not warrant a title shot. If Riggs thinks that he’s above this fight then he’s an idiot, Diaz is a big name who is in the best form of his career. Both guys would walk through Riggs on the ground and Nick would beat Riggs in the stand-up as well.
by David W-S on Jun 30, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shields has a couple fights left on his new ‘strikeforce contract’ [i do believe he has to fight one]
when thats all said and done[ im thinking the start of 2010’] jake WILL be in the ufc…. mark those word player~
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No offense Stinky but you definetly said that Guida was going to win. I know you were just trying to show Guida some love like I’m doing for Mir but you were raining down the apocolypse on us all it was too good. As for Diaz Riggs, the only winner here would be Strikeforce. Diaz has no reason to fight Riggs again. Diaz has bigger game he can kill and he knows he takes this fight easily but a loss would hurt his rank. Riggs has already beat Diaz and yes another win would help his career but after watching Nick kill his competition over and over again and notlose a fight decisively this is too high risk for Riggs. Bad idea for Riggs, so I don’t blame him for not taking this fight.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Jun 30, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your right cogito~
i had guida ftw~ i even bet 8k on him too~ not the 1st prediction i got wrong..
but like u said~ and i DID point this out during all the debates ~ was that
it wont be easy, diego is fully the fav, clays not boring, they will win fotn… all things that happened!
and i also said ’i was obviously over doing it with the “guida defense” but i had too, cause no one else was sticking up for the wop..lol
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and i got mir too~
doesn’t that make u want to rethink ur pick??..lol~
mirs a lock!! and if he loses this fight u will never see me on here again!! thats how sure i am..
i would never say guida is a lock against sanchez!!
i knew diego was a heavy fav~ i just gave him more of a chance then yall~
and if i remember correct? he did win a round~ and the fight[in one judges eyes]..
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct Stinky. I watch your bets and for the most part your not wrong, so I don’t think I’m worried that your picking Mir too. Losing 8k is quite a loss but you have to lose every once in awhile. I really think Mir has this fight, I’m not 100% confident because Brock is a beast but I think Mir is more inside Brocks head than we all think. Not that he’s scaring Brock but he’s just throwing him off and Brock is going to come into this under estimating Mir once again. BTW Guida put up a hell of a fight, I was impressed how he survived round one and everything you said is for sure the truth. No hate here but I couldn’t root for Guida when I don’t think he stands a chance right now against the top few LWs in the division.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Jun 30, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That judge didn’t watch the fight past rd 1, she made it 1-2 mins into Rd 2, about the 2nd minute mark when Huggie was on top she nodded off; woke up with some drool hangin out the side of her mouth and decided to give rds 2 and 3 to Guida cause the last thing she saw was him dry humpin Sanchez’s leg.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank u cognito~
i just dont understand why peeps keep jabbing me in my hairy gudia nutz??
yeah i got the prediction wrong~ but everything else was up to par!
and i agree with ur points about mir.. he is definitely in brocks head, no doubt..
imo~ i think its easy for any fighter to play mind games with that spazz~
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get a load of this goof threatening to goto sherdog forums LOL. NOOOOOOO!!! dude PLEASE DONT GO… clown
by BMO on Jun 30, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol~ bmo ur such a fag!
its sooo funny too~
by stinky~fingers on Jul 1, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear that strikeforce will make an interim title for the middleweight division and I will be shocked if Diaz isnt involved. I agree with my esteemed colleague, McArthur…this fight is wiggidy wiggidy whack! Only thing good about it is letting NIck avenge a BS decision loss! This will actually be Diaz vs. Riggs 3, Part 1 went down in the Octagon, part 2 when down in the hospital room, and now Part 3 will take place in a strikeforce cage.
What Srikeforce really should have done was match up:
Diaz vs. Kazuo Misaki (remind me again why im not the matchmaker of some organization?) THat fight would be bad ass!
Strikeforce needs to find more top talent to test Diaz and Sheilds.
Strikeforce needs to stop FOCKING around and sign Mayhem to fight Diaz. Mayhem vs. Diaz would be great anywhere the fight happens and that fight should really be on ppv because those 2 can sell a fight like no other. I would love to see Mayhem vs. Diaz in a ground war! Mayhem doesnt sign exclusive contracts and strikeforce is cool with that, so there shuldnt be any reason that this fight shouldnt happen. Let Jacre shut Mayhem up once and for all, and then Strikeforce needs to get this fight done. Perfect Platform for this match up would be Strikeforce’s inaugural cbs event!
by John G on Jun 30, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually john~ mayhem is in talks to fight jake shields..
im not as sure with this news, as i was about nick/riggs.. nate himself was the one who passed along that fight to me 3 weeks ago..
but im hearing from a buddy that strikeforce wants miller/shields~
by stinky~fingers on Jun 30, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wont complain about that fight, but the back and fourth trash talk between Diaz and Mayhem would be priceless!
by JOhn G on Jun 30, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayhem has less a chance than riggs does! unless he does an illegal kick and the ref is blind!
by kevin on Jun 30, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or even better…bring Jacre AND Mayhem to Strikeforce so at least we can watch it at a decent hour
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
completely agree that Diaz should be fighting for a title, but he’s not going to fight his training partner in Shields. i would much rather see Riggs fight Shields (the two have traded barbs), and Diaz vs. Lawler II (which has main event written all over it).
by wagnerav on Jun 30, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shields (who thinks he’s top 10 P4P) couldn’t beat Nick, so it’s a good thing they won’t fight!
by kevin on Jun 30, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two of my favorite fighters, that’s never fun.
Riggs has the advantage in wrestling, power, and movement.
Diaz has the advantage in the submissions, speed, and heart.
I’d lean towards Diaz but not by much, as Riggs could quite easily blast a serious hole through Nick’s angry-looking face.
by jammin on Jun 30, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree but I got Nick 2nd rnd tko
by SluggerCitySoldier on Jun 30, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And female headliners!!! Thats a stretch
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I got ripped a new one for saying that. Just wait until shields is put on the card, not to mention Grim/Overeem. But all this talent and we get a womans match as main event.
my wife and I may go to this event, my son will be in massachusetts, and we’re supposed to go away for our anniversary, but last night she mentioned coming home sat for this event!
by kevin on Jun 30, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a fight i want to see, but it just show’s how Shields is ducking Riggs. It’s like he’s sending in his bigger tougher cousin to do something he’s afraid to do. I wanna see Shields vs Riggs, and if Riggs wins then he gets Diaz.
by Crowls on Jun 30, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to hear an arguement supporting the fact that Gina/Cyborg SHOULD be the main event…2 mens title fights but the first ever womens title gets the nod…I personally can’t think of one good reason…
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
marketing…this is the first women’s fight that (eye roll)“Means anything”. no one cares about women’s fights. They are entertaining but this is the first meaningful matchup. 2 most well known female fighters in the world. I’m not gonna even think of calling it a super fight but it should be a good fight.
All that said…it should not be the main event. They just think it’ll sell.
by Crowls on Jun 30, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed…but what comes after Gina/Cyborg other than Gina/Cyborg II
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing, after this fight no one cares again.
by Crowls on Jun 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly…very easy answer and an answer that should be more apparent to the exec’s over at Strikeforce
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well put. i’ll enjoy this fight, but afterwards, we can go back to ignoring womens mma.
I suppose this will be a true test for strikeforce. If we see some crazy injury stoppage or something after an entertaining few rds then we can assume they are no better than EXC and are just trying to set up a rematch. If there is no funny business and we get a definitive winner then they are on the up and up and women’s mma goes back into obscurity.
by Crowls on Jun 30, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah you guys are funny…… after the fight, then no one cares again ha. but yeah seriously who is the champ gonna defend the belt against?
by AzCombat on Jul 1, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, according to Lorreta “the hun”, why bother even putting anyone else on the card. I mean, her baby girl Gina is on the card, so nothing else really matters, nor should it.
By the way, I have no prob with Gina, at all.
by Jrandolph on Jun 30, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know…the gina cyborg fight is huge and I think will get a lot of people interested. Gina’s actually fighting someone that could potentially fuck up that pretty face of hers. Do we know how many rounds they are gonna let them go?
by tiger_style on Jun 30, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 rnds…interested, yes…more interested than Overeem/Rogers, Bert/Thompson, or Diaz/whoever…not even close
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes it easier for me; I can change the channel right before the main event and be comfortable in the knowledge that I’m not missing anything.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, good one o damn, and you’re right on Jrandolph, that cunt actually said Gina will get more press than ufc 100. I actually couldn’t stop laughing at that one! The fighters in the first prelim fight for 100 is more relevant than any woman fighter!
by kevin on Jun 30, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be really curious to see what the #‘s look like for views on this event; and then what the #’s look like right before the main event; I bet you anything there’s a drop off right before the fight.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if strikeforce is gonna use nick as their poster boy, they need to set him up for a title shot at welter or middle weight, other wise he is just gonna keep beating who ever won at their last show, hell maybe he can hold MW and WW titles at once since his boy sheilds should be going to the ufc after his contract is up.
by Blazy J on Jun 30, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or worse he will lose to someone he is supposed to beat sooner or later
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that could happen as well, he is far from unbeatable, i just don’t see many in stikeforce that are on his leval right now. would have loved to see him fight cung lee.
by Blazy J on Jun 30, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry that this has nothing to do with this article but it is official WEC 43: Cerrone vs. Henderson for Interim title Youngstown, Ohio! Awesome deal!
BTW I would love to see Diaz v. Riggs 2. Riggs is looking a little more sharp as of late. I wish he would have attempted to finish Baroni but oh well…
by Tango87 on Jun 30, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
apparently there’s a good chance his career might be over due to his hand injury…oh well, at least he can see
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if nick doesnt fight riggs then who is left for nick? who? le is off playing movie boy…he wont fight shields cause they enjoy being in each others guards too much…hes already destroyed smith, shamrock, and lawler…so who does that leave? if not joe riggs then someone please name another available strikeforce opponent that would be a better fight for him in august?
by HellaHectic on Jun 30, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JV said Benji which isn’t a bad idea but other than that….?
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I great fight would be Diaz/Jason MacDonald…MacDonald must be getting restless and has yet to sign anywhere if I’m not mistaken
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only Welter Weight that any of you has mentioned to take on Diaz, is Riggs; what are the rest of these match ups?? Catch weight? It’s not like Diaz can hold a catch weight title; or continue to accept Catch Weight fights his entire carreer. Jason Macdonald, Robbie Lawler, Cung Le; ALL of these guys are MW’s. IMO, Diaz should just settle into WW, fight Riggs and then worry about who’s next at WW from there.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Benji=MW, he can’t fight catch weight his entire carreer, and why move up to MW when he can comfortably make WW?? ??
U guys are killing me here…
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O dam, wasnt Diaz’s fight with Shamrock & Smith at MW? To me, Diaz should be at MW cause he wont fight Shields for the belt at WW.
by JV on Jun 30, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a lot of options though…other than Shields for reasons previously stated maybe Jay Hieron/Diaz, Gono/Diaz (which John mentioned)…all qualified WW’s are in the UFC…why isn’t Nick?
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am liking this Mayhem/Diaz idea of John’s more and more…marketing gold right there!!! ;)
by McArthur on Jun 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JV, those were catch weight fights; Diaz did not move up to 185 for either of those. They met inbetween; and like I said, he could fight at MW, but he makes WW with relative ease, he might do OK at MW, but he could be top 5 at WW.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah! NICK DIAZ, THE UNDISPUTED STRIKEFORCE CATCHWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!! haha
by AzCombat on Jul 1, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could this fight possibly be on the undercard?!
by VNDK8 on Jun 30, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nick…. Can you please sign with the UFC PLEEEASE!!!! I mean who’s next Phil Baroni?
by Nick Diaz 209 on Jun 30, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he will, he likes being a biger fish in a small pond. He couldn’t beat the top level guys in the UFC so he bailed.
by Rich on Jun 30, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Nick could beat most of the top WW’s stopping short of GSP. I give him 50/50 against anyone in the UFC WW division cept Georges.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diaz always acts like such a street punk. He’s a bad example for the sport. If the elite level fighters acted like him, mma would die because no one would want a sport filled with characters like him.
by Cal on Jun 30, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol, it’s called hype. the real Nick Diaz comes out post fight.go watch him in Japan, or helping shamrock up etc. He’s a punk pre fight to get morons who like that sort of stuff interested in the fight!
by kevin on Jun 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Name a sport besides Golf, or Tennis or ping pong where they don’t have guys like Diaz runnin around.. Like this is just unique to MMA.. It takes ALL different types to make this sport interesting, and right here, you got your villain that you can sit at home and root against whenever he has a fight. A lot of people including a lot of fighters would say that Diaz is an “elite level” fighter; btw.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll agree with the first part of your statement. He certainly makes things more interesting but I don’t know if he is as good as he looks fighting for strikeforce. He couldn’t beat Diego Sanchez or Joe freakin Riggs in the UFC for Pete’s sake. I think my Mom beat Joe Riggs a time or two. And Sanchez even moved down to lw. Diaz is good but not great. Maybe lower top 10 in UFC’s ww division.
by Rich on Jun 30, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much improved since both of those fights you mentioned.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He fought both those guys 3-4 years ago. And You can tell he’s improved cause the diff between now and then is, no one in here is really giving Riggs much of a chance against Diaz.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 30, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Top 10 ww in UFC.”
this is a crazy statement considering I easily have him top 10 P4P in the world. Other than GSP (and yes I think it would be a great fight), I don’t think any WW currently could beat Nick. He’s ever improving, especially since the fights you’ve mentioned!
by kevin on Jun 30, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s called selling a fight Nick Tito & Frank are probably the best at it. You either want to see them win or get there ass whooped
by Mike on Jun 30, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, this is an opinion forum which makes this fun, we could debate this for days. He probably has improved but I don’t see him beating guys like GSP, Fitch, Alves, or BJ; who is a true lightweight by the way but would still beat Diaz a ww.
by Rich on Jun 30, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we sure could, and all are debatable. only problem is, Nick wants min. 4 fights a year and UFC can’t give him that!
by kevin on Jun 30, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im surprised more of you aren’t excited for this fight. I feel like people dont give Riggs enough credit.
He’s had some obstacles in his career but he’s also shown flashes of greatness more often than not.
His combination of (southpaw)boxing and wrestling skills makes his dangerous, not to mention how seasoned of a vet he is.
Riggs wields huge power with awesome speed and footwork; i dont think this is an easy fight for Diaz by any means.
by jammin on Jun 30, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After now reading the last posts on how Diaz couldnt compete in the UFC WW division I now changed my mind on this fight. I now am glad he is fighting Riggs to show everyone how much he has improved since losing decision losses to Karo, Sherk, and Riggs. Anyone who doesnt think he would destroy any of those 3 today doesnt watch MMA. Anyone that stands with Nick will lose. A great wrestler will hold him down into a decision victory because they sure as hell arent finishing him.
by Nick Diaz 209 on Jun 30, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he’ll actually probably sub them off his back if someone trys to lay on him and hold him down.
by AzCombat on Jul 1, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The crazy thing about these two is they are 25 and 26 years old, both have a ridiculous amount of experience for their age and at least 10 if not 15 year careers ahead of them so I say its a good fight as a benchmark of where they are at right now.
It’s likely that Riggs and Diaz will end up back in the UFC at some point and I think Diaz is trying to fight as much as possible to accelerate his progression before returning to the UFC at 27/28 for a title run. At the rate he’s improving, what will he be like in 2-3 years? The Nick Diaz story has only just begun.
by paniczoo on Jul 1, 2009 2:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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