she just wants Rampage’s money…

i thought this was squashed months ago? looks like the mother of the child is broke or something, stirring up the mud again for something that happened like half a year ago

She must of really been looking forward to that kid if she’s suing him for a whoppin’ 25K. Is that a joke? How about deal it down to some front row tickets and a big mac. Christ, lady.

who knows what will happen they are in cal and everybody knows they are tree hungers (the only nice way i can put it) out there im sure he will settle out of court

If I thought it was the real reason of my child’s stillbirth, I would want very badly to kill him. If she’s unsure, so what….give her the money for the possibility that it’s your fault. Then apologize to her as sincerely as you can. Anyone who villainizes the mother doesn’t have kids.

Agree Ovaries, Rampage is extremely lucky he isn’t locked up with a homicidal bereaved parent waiting for him on the outside.
And since when is not getting enough sleep and drinking lots of red bull an excuse for ANYTHING!?!?

Since some dude got off on a murder rap because of Twinkies.

I somehow doubt Rampage bumping into this skank’s car a few times caused her to prematurely pop one weeks later. Good luck proving that shit you old bag. How’s a playa gonna spin new 26’s with hater-ass bitches like this all up in his shit?

:-)
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You sound like a complete moron, just thought i’d let you know

If he was responsible he should go to jail. Doubt that’ll happen though. Would it be considered manslaughter or murder and what degree?

A lot of people seem confused on this one. This is a law suit. It has nothing to do with jail, it is all about money. He may very well have to pay up, because in a law suit you do not have to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but instead it is decided by preponderance of the evidence.

Yeah, and it’s for a measley 25K. That’s “throw me a bone and I’ll fuck the hell off” money.

The Orange County DA already clarified that this woman was examined by medical personnel and Rampage’s actions were determined NOT to be the reason for her miscarriage. She is sueing him for property damage, personal injury and emotional distress.

Jeremy Jackson, I’ve been reading posts on this site off and on for about a year now, and you seem to have one of the more knowledgeable MMA minds on here. But after reading what you had to say about the lady suing Quinton Jackson, you sir, have shown us all what a heartless, worthless piece of shit you truely are. And believe me when I tell you, I regret the fact that this is the only opportunity I have to inform you of this fact.

Wow. Those are some harsh words. The sort of words that might make a fellow take stock of things and regret his hastily typed attempt at humor.

That is, of course, unless those words were uttered by a poster whose claim to excellence on this site thus far is a post reading “Open up, i’m gonna take a shit in your mouth” a few scrolls down this very page.

If you motherfuckers wanna take swings at the incomparable JJ™, ;-) do it with your regular handle so I can deal with your sorry asses accordingly. Posting lame insults with newly created handles will no longer elicit responses, you chickenshit pole-garglers.

Jeremy Jackson, I can safely say I just lost all respect for you as a human being! You should be embarrassed to write something like that and have that kind of BS be representative of what kind of person you are. Shameful!

WAR JJ!!!!! I will back you up hommie. medical examiners already ruled that Rampage had nOTHINg to do with this womans UNFORTUNATE Miscarriage…yet this typical gold digging woman is looking to cash in on a terribly unfortunate tragedy….fOCK THAT BITCH!!!!

I hate when a tragedy occurs and people try to cash in on it! THats just really low if you ask me. Putting monetary value on a human beings life is something that IRKS tHE FOCK out of me….

Her unborn child was only worth $25,000 to her, and I am supposed to BASH JJ for not feeling sorry for her? YOU wont hear me bashing him! If she HONESTLY felt that Rampage was the cause of her losing her unborn baby, she would be suing Rampage for at least 6 figures…but she is NOT, she is asking for a little over $25,000…That is such BS…YOu cant even buy a new car for $25,000. So I guess that child meant less to her then a car….White TRASH if you ask me!

For those claiming that Rampage should be in jail…GIve me a FOCKING Break. He isnt pacman jones, who gets arrested every other week. This was an isolated incident, that resulted from a mental lapse….and you guys say he should be in jail? FOCK OFF!

JOhn, in one sentence you say that putting a price on a human life irks the fock out of you, then not 8 seconds later, you say she should ask for atleast 6 figures! hahahaha, you kinda lose credibility when you contradict yourself that blatently!!!

Oh and one mental lapse cant put you in jail? So if I have a mental lapse, one isolated incident and kill someone, I shouoldnt go to jail? You are ridiculous!!!!

Caesar try not to argue with these morons ..thats what they want. They are sitting in their parents basement typing these comments and sipping their Keystone lights, hoping they get heated responses from people

No MENTAL Lapses dont ever put you in jail! When you are found to have caused a crime because of mental problems… you get put in a mental hospital.there is a huge difference between a mental hospital were you get treatment, and PRISON.

Ceasar: Personally, I dont think anyone should be allowed to sue for the loss of a family member,and be awarded MONEY…THats just me….but If you are a person that thinks that you should be awarded money for a tragic loss of a child (not saying that you are Ceasar, just speaking in general), I would imagine that you would think your child is worth a whole lot more then $25,000.

Only asking for such a low amount, leads me to believe that SHE KNOWS that Rampage wasnt the cause of this tragedy, and she figures if she will ask for such a low amount, Rampage would just pay the small, slap on the wrist and move on instead of letting it drag out in court.

I will say that there are special circumstances in which a family member should be able to sue for money…but the only time that should be allowed is if the family member is the monetary PROVIDER for the family members that are suing.

For example: Say a a rich CEO, was driving drunk, caused an accident that resulted in the death of a HUSBAND, of a HOUSE wife, and father of 2 young children. Those family members should be able to sue for money, because that death leaves them in financial shambles, all directrly caused by the criminally negligent actions of the drunk driver being sued.

I dont mean to be cruel…but losing an unborn child doesnt have ANYTHING to do with MONEY. Its a Tragedy! In a case like that I either feel that the defendant should either go to jail, or be free…..depending on what the investigation believes actually caused the tragedy. If the accused caused the death of the unborn baby…send him to jail.NO MONEY should change hands!

But in this case the medical examiner alreday ruled that Rampage had NOTHING to do with the death, so she should stop being white trash, and looking to make a buck out of a tragedy!

THats just my ideology. Not trying to be harsh or offend anyone, but I really hate how our culture has just turned into…Money seeking lawsuits every time a tragedy occurs. Tragedy’s are the worst things that can happen in life…I dont know how anyone can think about money at a time like that. It truly sickens and saddens me!

Robbcy: I wasnt trying to offend anyone, or get a heated reaction out of anyone…so I dont know who the FOCK you think you are talking to? I am a MAN, who has worked extremely hard to get everything that he has in life. I tragically lost my father a year ago, and was advised to sue for monetary damages, and NOT ONCE could even THINK about putting a price tag on the tragic loss of my father. I was 25 when my father died (still a broke college student at the time), and he left behind my, and my 2 young siblings and a housewife….THe tragedy crippled my family financially, and WE NEVER even once considered to make a buck out of it! We Manned the Fock up, didnt ask for any hand outs, made sacrifices to survive and til this day we are still trying to pick up the pieces of our life

So I have every FOCKING right to speak my mind on this subject you FOCKING KLOWN!!!!! If my family went through financial hell because it lost its financial provider tragically and NEVER ONCE CONSIDERED SUING FOR MONEY THAT WE WOULD HAVE EASILY WON, then this FOCKING gold digger, should be THROWN in jail for trying to collect money from the loss of an unborn child.

Forget the FACT that Rampage was cleared of being responsible for this tragedy…..WHAT THE FOCK DOES MONEY have to do with her Loss?

John don’t you ever get sick of typing these page long messages to people? Who cares what these people say about you? Just relax, it’s Friday, it’s nice out, and you get really worked up by people you don’t even know. Sorry to hear about your dad and go smoke one and relax you seem stressed a lot lately.

Wow…. alot of craziness happended since I last posted.

If the suit isn’t about the death of the fetus, the title of this article is very misleding.

I remember the something about the medical examiners being unable to conclude that the accident caused the miscarriage. That doesn’t mean the crash had nothing to do with it. Caesar nailed you on contradicting yourself. And it’s silly to call her a gold digger then make fun of how little gold she’s going after. It doesn’t add up and simply don’t know whay she’s suing for so little.

She may be asking for a reasonable amount of money because that’s her co-pay on her medical bills or something. There are less cynical and more logical explanations than she values her unborn child at a market value of $25K.

One mental lapse is all it takes for some people to go to jail for life so that makes no sense JohnG. You are responsible for all your action all the time.

JJ, I think you were making a joke. I didn’t care for it because I have a little girl and my second will be here in a couple months. The thought of losing our baby takes away my usual sense of humor. And I normally enjoy a tasteless or offensive joke or two.

Ultimately, my point, is if your rampage, you give her the money if you think you had a 1% chance of contributing. You should be ashamed and willing to do whatever it takes.

Finally, in the military, I have taken actions that lead directly to the death of over 300 terrorists. I am very comfortable with it. We all have our lines, that when crossed, take away our capacity for remorse. If my wife were in a car accident with someone in a police chase and some idiot crashed into her. I would already want to hurt the guy even if our unborn baby was unaffected. If we lost the baby, and it was unclear why, I would have homocidal urges. If he showed anything other than sympathy, I would load my gun. It would take very little else to make me use it no matter what the consiquences. I’m not saying that’s the case here b/c I don’t have all the facts, but I do know Rampage caused this situation and doesn’t deserve sympathy, even for his one mental lapse.

JohnG and JJ don’t have kids. See my prvious post. It will change you. You hear it until the point that it’s cliche, but it is absolutely unavoidable like gravity. I used to think it was weird how people would become devistated by losing a child prior to birth. I would think, “they didn’t have a chance to form a relationship.” But you don’t realize what parents do over those 9 months. You see the 4-D ultrsounds and you get a strong indication what he/she will look like. You imagine he/she with your other children or cousins of similar age. You have a name picked out and people give you gifts with his/her name on it. You prepare a room. I doubt I will make a dent on a young guy with not kids, but I thought I’d take a shot.

JohnG,

Sorry about your Dad. Really!

I think it would have been okay to sue for damages if someone else was negligent. I don’t see it as putting a price on your loss. I think people should be held responsible as much as possible when their behavior causes someone else a loss of any kind. My wife works as a victim advocate for the state. A lot of the people file claims after they lose someone to a violent crime. The state will cover the cost of couseling, some medical bills, etc. They will never get their loved one back, but it just seems unjust to have financial hardship piled on top of it when you’re trying to pull your life back together.

Punch-

I don’t have kids and I clearly understand your points.

Just to add :

Common sense should be applicable in any situation.

In this case, (even if Rampage wasn’t directly responsible for the death of the fetus) the injured parties can :

1) beat him up (not realistic)

2) shoot him (realistic but very difficult)

3) sue him (most realistic)

Guess which one the average person would take? Its a no-brainer…

 I generally respect the opinions of most of the knowledgeable posters on here but some of these ideas reek of blind, delusional nutthuggery.

I argued in favour of Rampage in the Jon Jones thread already, so my only bone to pick here is with the tone of this article and the way it’s presented; if Mania is copying the article from TMZ, they should also copy the paragraph where they cite that investigators concluded Rampage was NOT the cause of the miscarriage and also that Griggs is proceeding with the law suit to sue for Property Damage, Physical injury and emotional distress; not the loss of her Child.

Also the line :

“miscarriage suffered by one of the victims just days after everything went down”

is inaccurate, the fetus didn’t pass away until 2 weeks after the incident. And there’s so many reasons for loss of amniotic fluid, there’s no way to tell if this was the cause.

all it says is more than $25,000. that just means that the case is going to the supreme court and not to small claims court which will only hear claims to a max of $25,ooo. i’m sure she is going to sue for a lot more than 25K. just thought i should point that out since so many posters are talking shit about her “only suing for 25K and that all her child is worth”

or was she running from the law in the process of committing a felony? i’m a page fan but i believe in taking responsibility for your actions also. i don’t remember whine-ito being charged for forcing rampage to drink red bull at gunpoint. at some point you have to take responsibility for the decisions you make.

sarah, i respect your opinion but i think abortion should only be allowed if the pregnancy or the delivery would risk the life of the mother.

Ryan, I think that if your mother had aborted you we wouldn’t be having this retarded debate on an MMA MESSAGE BOARD. So let’s call it a night Reverend Falwell.

abortion talk on an MMA site . whats next?

Hey Hobie, if you don’t like what’s being discussed then you can go to a different thread.

I find it curious that you attack Ryan even though he was responding to sarah. I have a suspicion that it’s not the topic you don’t like…just ryan’s opinion.

I have a suspicion you are suffering from a mild case of Down’s Syndrome, FakeDrew. And why would you find me attacking anybody ‘curious’. Are you serious? You just attacked me for responding to this other mongoloid!

Seriously dude, mind your business before you get cyber-hurt. Maybe Rush Limbaugh’s on or something.

Hey JJ you’re the mongoloid around here.
You dont own this site!!
You are the one who is minding others business.

Yep. Class-A mongoloid.

Status: confirmed.

Nice one Hobie. You just totally gave me a cyber keyboard lashing. Seriously…that part about down’s syndrome was a thing of genious.

Thanks man. I’ve always aspired to be a… erm… genious?

Seriously though, you’re a pretty good sport. Cheers.

lol Funny how Sarah started this abortion talk and then 4 other guys started calling themselves mongoloids but nobody said anything about her because she is a chick. Sarah please do not make this types of comments on an mma sites, u are making guys sound queer talking about abortions and what’s right and wrong. come on JJ don’t get involved in this types of arguments i respect your knowlegde in MMA, I’m losing respect for you.

I was going to have an abortion but the doctor said i was not pregnant just fat.

geezus you guys are so f*cking sensitive..someone said above… Comment by brendan
2009-06-25 21:02:16
whats the difference between this and a mother killing her own child when its still inside of her?
Comment by Ronnie Coles
2009-06-25 20:41:27
Funny, he’s being sued for the "death of a fetus" yet abortion is legal in this country.
Interesting.
 
i just gave my opinion..and yes it had sweet f*ck all to do with mma (and usual i only comment on fighters and such)