Georges St. Pierre and Thiago Alves all about respect and confidence heading into UFC 100 title fight

UFC 100 is set to go down from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Saturday, July 11. The monumental fight card is poised to be perhaps the biggest pay-per-view (PPV) event in the relatively short history of the sport.
The promotion heightened the hoopla today with the first installment of its tried and true media call. The cast of characters this time around featured welterweight champion George St. Pierre and number one contender Thiago Alves -- Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir are scheduled to hit the airwaves next week.
Two words can sum up the tone of today’s UFC 100 media call: Respect and confidence.
Both St. Pierre and Alves spoke with a blend of these traits when asked about their impending fight, thoughts on each other and their individual journeys leading up to this historic moment.
St. Pierre started the call by giving respect to Alves, saying he knew Alves would be a future opponent after watching his fights against Matt Hughes and Josh Koscheck. He drove his point home by bringing B.J. Penn into the equation.
"I truly believe that if you put Thiago Alves and B.J. Penn in a fight, I would bet all my money on Thiago Alves, no doubt about it. Thiago Alves is more dangerous because he is a gentleman. He is not someone that needs to trash talk to promote himself. He is a very respectful guy. Skill wise he brings more problems to the table then anyone I have fought so far. These things make him more dangerous. He is the best guy I will fight so far."
Alves was quick to recognize that St. Pierre is the champion, but is ready for the challenge.
"First of all, I think it is going to be a very well rounded fight. He is a complete fighter and the champion. I am ready for every situation though -- for the stand up, the wrestling and the ground work. I have a lot of respect for him and I am 100 percent ready for whatever he throws at me."
Both fighters were also asked about their weights and both revealed they were weighing in around 190-pound mark. When asked whether weight would give Alves and advantage over St. Pierre both were quick to dismiss the notion.
"I don’t think I will have an advantage over George. We are both going to have to weigh in at 170. At this level, I don’t think size advantage is going to matter. George is a pretty big guy and he is very well rounded so I am not counting on any size advantage. I am counting on my training and everything that I know and that I have been through. I am going to let it all go on July 11."
George was specifically asked if he changed his training when preparing for a bigger opponent and affirmed he hadn’t.
"I don’t think it makes a big difference because I always train with bigger guys. I truly believe in this sport skill and technique always beat strength and size. The guy that wins this fight is the better fighter, not the bigger guy. It will be the guy that fights the best."
When Alves was pressed about the takedown defense and how he would combat St. Pierre’s effective takedowns he spoke about how the takedowns were only one part of the equation.
"The thing is that GSP is dangerous everywhere. You have to be careful with him everywhere. Not just with his takedowns. Takedowns are just one of his weapons. He is a dangerous striker and has got great jiu-jitsu. Like I said though, I am prepared for everything.
I have been training with the best wrestlers, strikers and jiu-jitsu guys in the world. I am well prepared for this fight. GSP is the champion, he is the man. I can’t just think he is going to take me down. He is going to do everything, he is very well rounded."
When St. Pierre was asked about the dangerous leg kicks of Thiago Alves he, too, pointed out the well rounded nature of his opponent.
"Thiago has devastating leg kicks. But it's not the only thing he has got. He has great knees, a great left hook. He has good heavy hands. I have been studying a lot of tape and I have a specific strategy that I will use to take him out of his comfort zone. Thiago is always a better version of what he did in his last fight but I am ready for it. I will be fighting him everywhere and taking him out of his comfort zone in every aspect of his game. But like when you play cards, you don’t want to show your hand (laughs). So everyone will get to find out in the fight."
It was clear by the end of the call that both fighters had a lot of respect for the other while being extremely confident in their own abilities. While partaking in the back and forth between Penn and St. Pierre certainly made for good theater, it was refreshing to see two athletes at the top of their games focused on the fight and only the fight.
One thing is for certain. It will be an absolute war when George St. Pierre and Thiago Alves collide in the Octagon on Saturday, July 11, 2009. Who you got in this one, Maniacs?
Remember: MMAmania.com will provide LIVE updates with blow-by-blow, round-by-round commentary of the main card action on fight night, which is slated to air at 10 p.m. ET.
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this fight is going to be great i hope thiago makes weight he walks around at 200 205
by sleeper on Jun 25, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think GSP will take down and wear alves out with gnp, then will finish it by passing guard and rubbing his nuts in alves face before the armbar, just like he did to hughes.
by Egads on Jun 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree minus the nut rub/armbar. I think it will end due to strikes from the top.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For once, i can’t decide who to root for. But i don’t care regardless because this is the type of high tension technical fight that so thoroughly enjoy. None of the “let’s stand and bang, marcus davis garbage.” Wouldn’t be surprised if either won.
by NameNotRequired on Jun 25, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will root for GSP no doubt about it, but what im predicting to happen is another story, I think Thiago is too strong and too dangerous to hold down for as many rounds as he’s gonna have to, to beat him..
by RoB on Jun 26, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will be rooting for Alves, but in reality I dont care who wins this fight. IMO these are the best 2 welterweights in the world, and both are ultra exciting top fighters, that carry themselves with class. Reality is no matter who wins this fight, the fans will be left with a great fighter, WORTHY of representing the welterweight division. When you take that into consideration along with the fact that this match up cant be anything other then a SUPER EXCITING fight…Its really a win/win scenario for the fans!
For those that remember, leading up to the gSP/BJ Penn fight, I said, that regardless of who walked away from that fight with the title, was going to end up losing to alves later on this year anyway….and I am not about to shy away from that!
I think that RIGHT NOW, both GSP and Alves are too good to be DOMINATED by ANYONE on earth that can cut down to 170 lbs…and I truly believe that. This fight can end so many different ways, but no matter how it ends, or how long it lasts…neither fighter will get dominated in this fight. Its going to be a really close fought fight.
For years, I have been saying that the best match ups are the ones that you dont even feel confident offering a prediction on….THis is one of those fights. I do have money riding on Alves and GSP is included on one of my parlays….but as a BIG fan of both fighters….Im just going to sit back and enjoy a fight that I really think is going to go down as one of the best match ups in the history of the sport!
I always make a really big deal out of FIGHTERS Earning the right to fight for the UFC title because upsets ocur in the sport no matter how great the champion is….as long as a fighter has EARNED his title shot, when upsets do occur, we are still left with a DESERVING CHAMPION…and no matter who wins this fight, the UFC will have an amazing, and exciting fighter representing the welterweight division….and I cant ask for more then that!
by JOhn G on Jun 26, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think GSP dominates! Mark my words. I come back with my “I told you so” after every event. This could be your chance to take me down, lol.
by Punch You in the Ovaries on Jun 26, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can have your I told you so’s buddy..Im content on continuing to win money on all mma events. As long as I win money on every event, I am happy. If you have noticed there are a lot of times were I dont even make any predictions for the events recently. Of course there are intruiging match ups that I can talk about all day, but you wont find many threads where you see me just list who I think will win every fight of a card, just for shitt’s n giggles! lol I wont deny, you have been on a nice streak, but nothing that I havent personally done in the past. Punch, I dont remember if you are a gambler…Have you been betting on the fights you have called? This isnt meant to be confrontational, I am just curious cause I dont remember. If you do gamble…whats your style? Do you make sure you have action on all the main card fights like I do? Or do you just pick a fight or two that you feel confident about and bet money on those fights? Just curious.
I dont care if I am right on all of the fights anymore, (I used to really care). As long as I come away from watching an mma event having profited financially, I am happy. I am not the type of gambler that just bets a lot of his gambling roll on 1 or 2 big fights per event. I like to have ACTION on all the televised fights while watching an event. TO some extent, I usually have money riding on all the televised match ups…and only bet undercard fights that I feel will win me money. of course in some cases a guy is like an unbettable -700 favorite…in those cases I just throw him onto a cheap parlay or something, but I always have money on most main card fights.
Im past picking idividual fights right. I have really started to take this gambling thing serious,and I have tried to really bet SMART in the past 6 months so…Im more concerned with betting the RIGHT amount on each individual fight so that when I add up all the money from the wins and losses that I bet on each mma card…I walk away from the event PROFITING!
GSP might very well win this fight, and I can also see alves Knocking him back into therapy class…but what I dont see is either fighter being dominated. At the most, one of them will dominate a round or two, but for the most part, I personally see a lot of back and fourth action and a very competitive fight until it goes to the judges or someone makes a mistake and his opponent capitalizes. I think it will take a blatent mistake for one of these guys to be finished…I dont think either can stop the other just by imposing their will.
by John G on Jun 26, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of guys said GSP wouldn’t dominate Fitch or BJ. I predict the same thing (which I always give reasons for) that I always do, a one sided beat down. Why? Because GSP is above and beyond any other WW. If Alves was able to fight his fight, it might be close, but GSP has an uncanny ability to take fighters out of their game and make them look like amatures. It won’t be long before Alves has the same discuraged look on his face as GSP’s past few opponents. Skill only goes so far, the true greats like Fedor, Silva, Machida and GSP stand out from the rest mainly because they are all great strategists.
by Gord on Jun 27, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree… GSP by clearcut, convincing, dominating 5 RD UD. GSP is head and shoulders above the rest of the division. He has plenty of training partners (Rashad, Nate the Great), etc., who can prepare him for Alves.
Who does Alves have that can train him for GSP?? There is no one out there with the phenomenol, dynamic toolbox GSP has. If you could build an MMA fighter from scratch it would come out as GSP. Alves has no one to train with that can mimic the style, technical proficience, and abilities in the size package GSP comes in. You can only experience it by fighting him and by then its too late.
By round 5, Fitch couldn’t wait for the fight to end. He was absolutely overwhelmed. Alves will be the same.
by DJ on Jun 26, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with everything but it going 5 rounds. I don’t think Alves (or any other WW) can take the beating Fitch took.
by Gord on Jun 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait for that fight.
I don’t care if you’re a GSP lover or hater (those are the only two kind of human beings), but everyone should hope that the best man wins.
by ftg314 on Jun 25, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the biggest fight of the year. Easily the two best in the division. I don’t care that Brock/Mir is a bigger draw on PPV, this fight should have been THE main event on UFC100.
by Kobajack on Jun 25, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the word you’re looking for is the BEST fight of the year.. cause it’s certainly not the biggest
by RoB on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It features the two best fighters in the world in their weight class… how much bigger does it get?
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 25, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, biggest is more accurate because how can I comment on the fight being the best when i haven’t even seen it?
by Kobajack on Jun 25, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest implies it will garner the most public interest, which is not at all the case. In fact, Cyborg vs. Carano will easily get more press. Best means that, on paper, it is the best match-up of skill available. Therefore, Alves/St.-Pierre is a candidate for the bast upcoming fight, but not the biggest.
by Josh on Jun 26, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re outta your flipping mind if you think a girl-fight on cable is going to get even close to the attention of GSP/Alves. Most people have never even heard of Strikeforce or Gina ‘fat-ass’ Carano.
This is the UFC’s landmark show and they anticipate the best numbers ever. GSP is one of the most recognizable and popular fighters on earth. This fight is huge in every way.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 26, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t imply that at all. Biggest implies level of importance in my definition. The level of importance in this fight is bigger than any other, not better than any other (well better as well, but I wasn’t the one trying to pick the subtle differences in the colloquial use of both “bigger” and “best.”)
As JJ said, who I’m sure wouldn’t have had a problem if I used ‘best’ either (because he’s not an idiot), “How much bigger does it get?” Was he referring to whether it would garner the most public interest? No(well not exclusive anyway). He was just stating and agreeing that a fight of this magnitude is as big as it gets in terms of importance (which encompasses a wide range of other factors).
If we used your method of thinking we would say, “Cyborg/Carano is a BIGGER fight than GSP/Alves.” And in that case we would get laughed at.
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t imply that at all. Biggest implies level of importance in my definition. The level of importance in this fight is bigger than any other, not better than any other (well better as well, but I wasn’t the one trying to pick the subtle differences in the colloquial use of both “bigger” and “best.”)
As JJ said, who I’m sure wouldn’t have had a problem if I used ‘best’ either, “How much bigger does it get?” Was he referring to whether it would garner the most public interest? No (well not exclusively anyway). He was just stating and agreeing that a fight of this magnitude is as big as it gets in terms of importance (which encompasses a wide range of other factors).
If we used your method of thinking we would say, “Cyborg/Carano is a BIGGER fight than GSP/Alves.” And in that case we would get laughed at.
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh, I’ve double-posted (so expect the worst).
But I was agreeing with JJ anyway.
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh geez, expect two reasonably long posts replying to Josh. Forgive me (BLAME THAT JUNK OF A POST CENSOR BECAUSE I DIDN’T EVEN SWEAR OR SAY ANYTHING BAD).
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
womens mma is shite!! boring unless you are watching highlights..which is still dull..as if cyborg vs cankles is gonna come anywhere near the numbers..other than a curious spectacle..
georges st pierre was named athlete of the year in canada and has so many fans world wide..how is a chick fight even gonna compare to a war that these men will bring..
give your head a shake josh!!!
by sarah on Jun 26, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
josh is right, maybe not about Carano/Cyborg but about the best and biggest thing..
people does not care about who’s the best or not when they tune in to watch!
GSP vs Alves ain’t getting anywhere near Lesnar/Mir or Rampage/Rashad, or even BJ/GSP…
there’s a huge difference between big and best!
and when has the WW division ever been the most popular in the UFC, never..
by RoB on Jun 26, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like my posts got lost in oblivion (but don’t blame me if you see three of the same post, and if you do I can only say GO F-CK YOURSELF in advance.)
Back to my post:
It doesn’t imply that at all. Biggest implies level of importance in my definition. The level of importance in this fight is bigger than any other, not better than any other (well better as well, but I wasn’t the one trying to pick the subtle differences in the colloquial use of both “bigger” and “best.”)
As JJ said, who I’m sure wouldn’t have had a problem if I used ‘best’ either, “How much bigger does it get?” Was he referring to whether it would garner the most public interest? No (well not exclusively anyway). He was just stating and agreeing that a fight of this magnitude is as big as it gets in terms of importance (which encompasses a wide range of other factors).
If we used your method of thinking we would say, “Cyborg/Carano is a BIGGER fight than GSP/Alves.” And in that case we would get laughed at.
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RoB… you’re wrong. There’s a reason this fight was chosen for the UFC’s biggest card to date (in terms of marketing), and there’s a reason GSP is the fighter Gatorade chose for its newest ad campaign, and there’s a reason GSP won the ESPY for best MMA fighter.
That reason? GSP is an extremely marketable and popular fighter. He’s been a main event in some of the biggest-selling PPVs in UFC history (UFCs 79,87,94,) and his numbers will continue to grow as he continues to establish himself as the best all-around fighter in the sport.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 26, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh. Can someone tell me why with certain posts, without swearing or saying anything offensive, my posts go vanishing and then appear an hour later where in the meantime I can post away and not be affected? WTF?!
THIS IS BULLSHIT!
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Relax Kobajack. It’ll happen when it happens… like a sudden cardiac arrest.
Nice post, btw…
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 26, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Thanks, JJ. Sorry for the double, triple posts. In the past they’ve been delayed by an hour or more but have also not been posted at all.
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
biggest is obviously the word you use when knowing how many people that are gonna watch the fight!
and im confused do you mean biggest fight of the year out of all weightclasses or just the WW division? BJ/GSP was clearly bigger than this one is and it’s because of ALves not being as popular as BJ is…
by your definition every title fight is the biggest fight Kobajack? sure for them it is, but not for us as fans..
by RoB on Jun 26, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, GSP is a star but Alves is not.. And GSP doesn’t really come close to Tito, Chuck, Rampage, Brock if you put them in big fights.. BJ/GSP was alot bigger than this one, not better on paper, but bigger with all the hype that BJ got going…
by RoB on Jun 26, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me RoB, and for fans who understand MMA and know who the best fighters are, the fights of the year coming up are:
GSP/Alves (#1 and 2 WW in the WORLD colliding on the biggest card of the year)
Fedor/Barnett (Hey, it’s Fedor. The indisputable #1 and arguably #2 {definitely top 5} HWs in the world colliding.)
Anderson/Griffin (The Spider finally tested against a dangerous and huge LHW. Money.)
Machida/Rampage (Contingent on Machida and Rampage winning their respective bouts in the meantime, this fight would be one of the most anticipated LHW clashes ever, and that’s saying something. I’m looking forward to Shogun/Machida too, but this fight will be hyped to the balls.)
Penn/Sanchez (Once again contingent on Penn defeating Florian, the hype and personalities in this fight would make for an epic LW fight… the biggest ever for that division, IMO.)
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 26, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest fight of the year and bigger draw on PPV mean two different things.
Bigger can also mean “of great significance” and “momentous,” which is what it is.
I even pointed out in my initial post that “Brock/Mir is a bigger draw on PPV.”
“by your definition every title fight is the biggest fight Kobajack?”
I can’t see how you can make that assumption when I didn’t even mention anything to do with a title fight. There are a lot of title fights but they don’t always have the two definitive best in the division facing off (Silva vs. Cote? Silva vs. Leites?).
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, those are the BEST fights for me but im looking at it as how big of a crowd those fights/fighters are gonna draw and that’s when Lesnar/Mir and those kinda fights comes into the picture..
you know it’s not often that im speaking for myself when i write on here, im just stating the general view and how the average fan would see it for the most part…
by RoB on Jun 26, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, it’s good you say what you say Rob, I respect your opinion. I just disagree.
The reason being that the definition of bigger doesn’t directly relate to “how many people that are gonna watch the fight.”
It’s obvious Brock/Mir is a bigger draw — for what reason people would rather see that than GSP/Alves is mind boggling (not saying it’s not a good fight but not nearly as BIG) — but it’s not bigger in terms of significance or revelation or level of skill or whatever.
But of course, it’s always subjective. Some people out there could probably care less about GSP and Alves and fully ride the Lesnar Wagon. They might be OUT OF THEIR MINDS but that’s how they roll.
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kobajack you said that it’s bigger than any other fight because of the level of importance, so what i said is that every title fight is gonna be the most important fight and it’s gonna be the biggest fight you can fight…
we clearly disagree about what big means, or maybe not but to say that it’s “the biggest fight of the year” is going a little far IMO it is the best WW title fight in forever but not the biggest…
being the biggest artist or the biggest star is always gonna be about who sells the most and who’s the most popular NOT the best…
by RoB on Jun 26, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The star or artist analogy is erroneous. If a fighter says, “Oh yeah, that was the biggest fight of my career,” in most cases he doesn’t mean “Oh yeah, that was my biggest, most popular, most famous fight of my career and it had the most PPVs,” he means it’s the most important fight or the most momentous fight in his career.
But it is a wide-sweeping statement and I never expected people to agree with it. It could definitely be interpreted in many ways (which is why I mentioned PPVs beforehand).
I personally think it’s such a big fight because these two are by far the best in their division and it’s like two freight trains which have steamrolled over everyone else and are about to collide. It will be revelatory to see if GSP can maintain his greatness or if Alves can topple the champ — not just any champ, GSP-quality champ, a top p4p’er.
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really though Rob, this argument is one which could easily make us both wrong . . . or both right. Depending not on the use of the term but on what each person thinks of the significance of the fight. The meaning of the word is subjective because there are so many meanings derived from the word ‘bigger.’
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like both guys but must go with GSP eh , i want George to be considered the best welterweight ever ….he is always mentioned in pound for pound ranking also .. good luck to both fighters i will be watching on pay per view! here’s hoping it is a great battle with no serious injuries.
by bDavid on Jun 25, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry everyone, but GSP is a bad-ass! however, i’m gonna be going with ALVES for this fight.. don’t get me wrong, GSP shows a lot of skill and technique throughout his fights oppose to ALVES.. but i think ALVES will knock out GSP in the first, if not, second round.
ALVES!!!!! ALVES!!!!! ALVES!!!! PITBULL!!!
by boardRIDER on Jun 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He couldn’t KO hughes in the 1st and he couldn’t Ko Kos at all. It might be a bit of a stretch to assume GSP would be easier to KO, considering how rare it is for him to take any serious damage. You can bet GSP isn’t going to be such an easy target for a knee as Karo and Hughes. We’re not talking about a Karo and Hughes at the top of their game either. Karo is down right pathetic lately and Hughes looked like sh!t in that fight. Anything can happen in a fight, but more likely than not Alves will be to busy defending himself to mount much of an offence, just like everyone else that has fought GSP in the last couple of years.
by Gord on Jun 28, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this fight is going to be so wicked..curling my toes in anticipation..i want gsp to win but i know alves has a decent chance at the belt..glad they are being respectful cuz smack talk is cheap..
by sarah on Jun 25, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does the winner of this face Anderson Silva?
by spiderfan on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if gsp wins most likely but i doubt they’ll throw alves at him right away. the winner SHOULD fight jake shields but thats not gonna happen.
by AzCombat on Jun 26, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jake Shields would get smoked by BOTH of these guys!!!
by Jake on Jun 26, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva has more than enough on his plate at middleweight with the winners of Bisping/Henderson and Maia/Marquardt, plus Belfort or even Wanderlei on the horizon. Look for GSP to defend his strap at least one more time against Swick before moving up.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 26, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m thinking the belt is safe against swick…i agree that georges will fight one or two more times before considering a move up..you think gsp is interested in catch weight matches?.or would he just move up in weight class..
by sarah on Jun 26, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest Sarah, I’m torn. As a fight fan, I want to see GSP at MW, maybe even a superfight with Anderson…
But as a GSP fan I think he would be best suited to stay at 170 and dominate. Anderson will knock GSP out in all likelihoood. Yes, GSP has the takedowns and wrestling to put Silva on his back and pound him out, but I think Silva is too big, too long and too fast. I am a huge GSP fan but I have to keep it real.
I think GSP probably knows that this fight is a bad match-up for him, so I’d be surprised if it ever happens. I think sooner or later (probably later) we will see Georges at 185 though. As for catch-weight fights… I doubt it, but the less George has to come up and the more his opponent has to shed, the better for GSP.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 26, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true..i was gonna say that he has more to lose than gain by fighting bigger guys, even though he says size should not be a factor..and i agree that the spider could prolly do a number on him..but if he beats everyone at ww he may want to challenge himself.
by sarah on Jun 26, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean at a catch weight or something!
by spiderfan on Jun 25, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously how do you get traps like these guys naturally?
these guys both look so juiced up it not even funny
by Jesse on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HGH am would just say they can’t test for it
by sleeper on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait are you trying to tell me they dont test for human growth hormones?
what a joke if they dont test for that shit.
im sorry these guys work out allot im sure but you would have to be doing some crazy work on your traps to have them bulging out the side of your head like that.
you’re in some serious denial if you think these monsters aren’t on something.
by Jesse on Jun 26, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they could prolly test for high levels of hgh..but do they not feed that sh*t to the cows and chickens people eat?? thinking the average person has that sh*t in em if they don’t eat free range or organic meats..and most people can’t be bothered or afford it..
but when it comes to gsp, that guy is a training monster and he would do everything correct including the proper diet to look the way he does with out the help of hgh..he is methodical about everything, therefore not needing to take short cuts like that.
by sarah on Jun 26, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well sarah i can guarantee you that that there are ALOT of people that are serious about their training but is not close to looking like GSP or Alves so you can not be sure of anything…
by RoB on Jun 26, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very true..therefore thinking genetics is on their side..my uncle and my cousins had crazy popeye arm muscles and my uncle lifted beer cans..though his son weight lifted for 15 years and never even watched his diet and the guy had the physique of arnold..
by sarah on Jun 26, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Genetics and hard training. These guys are just naturally gifted atheletes. GSP by TKO.
by brand0 on Jun 25, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not uncommon to see on someone whose entire livelihood depends on cardio conditioning.
by DirtyML on Jun 25, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO, GSP doesn’t looked juiced at all, I’ve seen lots of natural mesomorphs the size of GSP. Alves looks a little suspect though. Believe me, I juiced to heal an injury and you get big over night. It doesn’t take the years it took GSP to slowly add a pound or 2 a year.
by Gord on Jun 28, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am also a gentleman, so don’t f**k with me.
by warwagonmma on Jun 25, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he just said hes walking around at 190lb. GPS is going to get hurt in this fight. If he thinks Serra hits hard hes in for a wake up call…or a sleeping pill. Pitbull via headkick early third rd. Does anyone hear think the pitbull would roll over and tap due to strikes? i doubt it.
by RedSweat83 on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol!
And here comes Serra again…
There’s 2 fighters in GSP’s career. The one before Serra and the on after.
The one before was more exciting to watch but the actual GSP is way smarter in the cage.
It’s not a good idea for Alves to throw many kicks against GSP…
by Jee on Jun 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He tapped due to Spencer Fisher.
Yeah, that 155 pound guy.
by Jonny on Jun 26, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love when guys bring up opponents somebody lost to at the very early stages of their career to try and downgrade somebody’s current abilities. Same thing with the possibility of Diego fighting Florian again. It won’t be the same fight and Alves has come ALONG way from the Spencer fight. He would dominate Spencer now if they fought in the same weight class.
by sudnvictory on Jun 26, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
spiderfan-
Why would Thiago’s first fight IF he wins the belt be at 185lb or even a catch weight?
by RedSweat83 on Jun 25, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I gotta say, GSP continues to look worse the more trash he talks about BJ Penn. He is supposed to be the classy champ, not the one who is hung up on his last fight (which he won, by the way).
Having said that, this fight is tough to call. Both of these guys are big for the weight class and so technically sound.
by Mahde on Jun 25, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol if any of these two is on roids, or at least ever was, it Alves. GSP is the taller wider fighter naturally, plus hes not blown up like Alves is. GSP is more toned/cut and Alves is blown up and ripped. Who cares anyways as long as they test clean I’m ok with it. Something tells me this fight is not going to be a war. I think whoever wins will do it quickly, this will be about who lands first,unless GSP bulldozes Alves to the ground and GnP him for 5 rounds.
by Chadx23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tough fight for both fighters, but GSP takes this one. hughes took alves down, so GSP will be able to without a doubt. on the feet both are dangerous with striking power going to alves, but i doubt that he will be able to land many leg kicks. GSP does not stand within range, he uses his speed to bounce in and out, and is very hard to time. GSP via ref stoppage in 3rd round!
by bullsh*t on Jun 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes took Alves down…..but got DESTROYED by Thiago so big deal if Hughes took Alves down. Surely GSP will take Thiago down too at some point in the fight but that’s not going to necessarily secure GSP a victory. Both these guys are so well rounded. I expect it to be back and forth.
by sudnvictory on Jun 26, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alves only has 1 chance to win. there is only 1 stat that has hurt GSP. Alves has to change his name to Matt. GSP has never beat an opponent by the name of Matt in the first fight, but he then has to go back to Thiago for the 2nd fight because Matt’s never do good against GSP in the rematch.
All kidding a side, this should be one heck of a fight. Should have been the headliner.
by JSP on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is by far the best analysis I have ever read about anything. Finally someone thinking outside the box.
by ftg314 on Jun 25, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thiago sets up his Thai kicks with combos and he counters well with them. i dont see GSP being much if any faster then the pillbull. KOs is very fast with fast hands and that wasnt a problem. Everyone think GSP is super fast because John Fitch said so.. Fitch is a very slow striker. do you think hughes has been takedowns then KOs haha what a joke. You should look at that fight not the hughes fight he was taken down didnt get hurt at all. Then he got up and gave matt a beating…who cares about that fight. Every fight hes been better and better and hes had a good amount of time to learn and train for this fight i cant wait.
by RedSweat83 on Jun 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
""Everyone think GSP is super fast because John Fitch said so..""
Really?
by Jee on Jun 25, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cant wait to hear goldie say ….and heeeeere we go!!
by day1er on Jun 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gsp a la gnp. he didnt pioneer gnp, but he sure has revolutionized it. gsp is an animal! i dont want to take anything from alves, hes strong and talented, but the only guy i see giving gsp a run for his money is the old anderson. sure thiago is prolly a little bit stronger, but gsp is no slouch either. look at fitch, hes an extremely talented gritty fighter and gsp didnt finish him, but he dominated the fight. it wil be the same case with alves, he doesnt have the tools gsp has, and not many fighters do. it would be stupid though to say alves doesnt have a puncher chance for the tko. but i highly doubt its going to happen. sure gsp is my favorite fighter and im a canuck, but common sense is talking here, not favortism
by tank on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
REVOLUTIONIZED GNP? LOL I dont think so man. He has good ground and pound but nothing we havent seen before, and not even the nest we has seen.
by lokie on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, GSP is probably one of the best at passing guard.
He keeps passing the guards of fighters that are described as “having a really strong guard”.
Sometimes he even passes guards “that nobody has ever passed”.
by ftg314 on Jun 25, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He def has changed the way ppl look at GNP, in the old days you would see wrestlers GNP’d strikers, they would posture up and pound away, looks great, but in all reality not that hard against someone who has no idea how to escape, regain guard, or even utilise the guard. What you see with GSP, and im not sure if everyone in hear fights, grapples etc, is that the transitions from guard, half guard, side control are so tight, and he utilises every point from full guard, to side control etc. It is technically the best gnp, i have ever seen, by far
by SiamMMA on Jun 26, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. GSP’s top game is the best in the biz. Dudes are helpless against his GnP and can’t defend his transitions. GSP’s GnP is the best in MMA as well, with Fedor a close second.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 26, 2009 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don’t you list all the other fighters that were able to GnP Fitch and BJ? Yeah, that’s what I thought.
by Gord on Jun 28, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m going with st. pierre. he’s just way more well rounded and his execution of gameplans is always insane. i think it’ll likely go the distance, but i will not be surprised if st. pierre puts on another clinic of a top 5 opponent.
by Phil Baloni on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GSP by fourth round stoppage. he’ll come out like he wants to strike and then get the takedown for sum GNP BABY!!!! WOOOHOOOOOOOOO [Emphasis Added]
by spitforce on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he has never faced a deadly muay thai champ throwing nasty knees to your face when u shoot for a takedown, alves is mean and nasty he will take gsp out!!
by bryant on Jun 25, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Alves certainly hasn’t faced anyone like GSP. You must be mistaking GSP for Sherk. Sherk shoots in from way back and has eaten a few knees, while GSP has never even come close to eating a knee. You are not paying attention if you having noticed how unpredictable GSP’s takedowns are. To throw a knee you have to see the TD coming. Against GSP you are on your back before your brain can register"throw knee". It’s a little to late by then.
by Gord on Jun 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lot of good points – i have posted on this topic before.
They are both amazing fighters, and I was a fan of Alves and GSP before they fought in the UFC.
Tough fight to call, but i dont think anyone really understands just how good GSP wrestling/top game has gotten. One can argue he had a size advantage over BJ, but regardless, the show he put on was a fucking clinic. Amazing to watch. I really do not beleive that once GSP takes Alves down (and he will at some point) that Alves guard, and game from the bottom will be anywhere near at the level required to stop GSP from dominating from the guard,half guard position. And if you cant control him from there, you will have no chance if he completely passes.
by SiamMMA on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i meant – lots of good points mentioned by other people. Not me haha. Just to clarify
by SiamMMA on Jun 25, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im going with GSP as well. Anyone who knows me here knows Im real close to driving the GSP warwagon myself, so I admit being biased. I do feel that GSP is better in every aspect of MMA compared to Alves, but Alves does have a chance here. He is a dangerous striker, admitted, but GSP knows that he doesn’t want to be hit by Alves very much, if at all. So, I’m pretty certain that we will see GSP winning clearly by stoppage. Near middle of round 3.
by enzo-enormous on Jun 25, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
better all-around but not better in every aspect. striking would have to go to alves.
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Jun 25, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better all around can and will take much of Alves striking away, just like it did to BJ. Being great at one thing these days just doesn’t cut it against the best. If Alves was able to KO a wild striker like Kos, then I might be worried. Kos was on queer steet a few minutes into that fight and he not only survived,but was able to rock Alves a few times. Kos got Koed in his next fight so it’s not like he has a granite chin. I think it’s fair to say GSP is a lot harder to hit than Kos. For Alves to win he has to finish GSP by T(KO). In 20 fights that has only being done once and it was the only time GSP didn’t show up. It could happen although the odds aren’t looking good.
by Gord on Jun 28, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP will dominate. Won’t be a competitive fight at all.
by Jay on Jun 25, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alves is much better striker, and has one thing GSP doesn’t, knock out power. GSP will try and take this to the ground, but Alves has a great clinch game, and that is where the fight will be won or lost in my opinion.
by Parks on Jun 25, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagrre, i dont think he is a ‘much better striker’ i think if anything GSP strking is more well rounded for MMA, his footwork is def more technical than Alves, and his head movement is probably better aswell. In a thai fight you would take Alves, however, i think if GSP decided to stand with Alves (i doubt he will) i would not feel uncomfortable with that, and i doubt that GSP woould eitheir, in this fight.
by SiamMMA on Jun 26, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP’s striking is consistently underrated since the Serra fight. We don’t see it as much anymore, but he is quicker than Alves, has better reach and head movement, and has a terrific jab. They both have nice footwork, while Alves has a definitive power advantage and savage leg kicks.
What I’m trying to say is that they match up pretty well standing up, and we all know who has the advantage on the ground. Maybe GSP will surprise everybody and fight a large chunk of this fight on his feet, getting the better of Alves everywhere.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 26, 2009 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too be honest for me that would be the best scenario. I am nervous about GSP trading punches & kicks against Alves (Alves is a beast) but would love to see GSP win this by KO. The great thing about GSP is he seems to always want to test himself using the strengths of his opponants. The Serra fight has me really nervous every time I see GSP standing. I hope he can bring it. Either way, me being a huge GSP nuthugger, I am excited more about the fight, no matter the outcome than seeing GSP Win. Well…sorta. I love the fact that it’s raw fighting, respect without the drama. BJ, maybe you should watch & learn. WAR GSP!!!!!!
by neeko on Jun 26, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP by telekinesis.
He has been hiding it for years, but he will finally show us that he can actually levitate and move objects with his mind.
I heard he got the power when he was young, after coming into contact with toxic waste while the sun was blasting gamma rays.
Either that or he’s from Krypton.
by ftg314 on Jun 25, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s not that at all, don’t you know anything?
He’s a jedi.
by Kobajack on Jun 26, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP via outsmarting by outworking him. Alves cant handle the cut properly and Georges has it mastered, this kid is out of his league in the work ethic department (this coming from a Penn fan, i know i know) He might be coming off the “destruction of Matt Hughes” but what the hell did GSP do to to Hughes then?? KO and Tap, Alves will always be bigger then Hughes and will always over power him, GSP is bigger as well but he worked for those 3 and a half wins and didnt get them all willy nilly tossing dudes around and not making weight for size advantages he didnt need. Alves is the most worthy man available and is due but i expect GSP to outsmart him by outworking him ala his last fight . . . BJ BJ BJ!!!
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jun 26, 2009 2:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 and a half . . . its been a while, rusty fingers on here
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jun 26, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think all the GSP greasers might be in for a surprise dont count Aves out!!
by Gina's triangle chokes dummy :) on Jun 26, 2009 3:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The great thing is, not even the huggers (myself included) are not counting Alves out. Respect the game.
by neeko on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the furthest thing from a GSP anything that you’ve ever seen
by ( (Adam G) ) on Jun 26, 2009 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thiago’s so screwed. Making weight is the only victory he can hope for.
by Skatanicus on Jun 26, 2009 5:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Skill and technique? That all goes away if you grease you cheater!
by xxBAxx816 on Jun 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alves can win only one way; using his stand-up game. GSP can win standing, gnp, submission you name it- he can do it. He’s such a more well rounded mixed martial artist.
by Wes on Jun 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll be rooting for gsp and be relieved if he wins but wouldn’t be surprised if alves tko’s gsp, its a long fight 5 rounds. If he decisions gsp or subs him I would be surprised, more about the sub. This should be one hell of a fight IMO gsp the more well rounded technical fighter but alves just has that striking power, just one mistake and its over. I can’t make a prediction for this fight, hope gsp wins but won’t be surprised if alves wins, simple as that.
by nathan on Jun 30, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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