UFC 100 video: Thiago Alves is going to be George St. Pierre's toughest test
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Thiago alves will probably give GSP the most trouble up to date but i still see gsp coming off with the win in this one
WAR GSP
by jmartinee on Jun 23, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thiago is a challenge but I really don’t think there is a WW on the planet that can touch GSP right now.
by DJ on Jun 23, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think ‘butters’ won’t have an easy fight~ but i do feel it’s not going to be as competitive as most peeps think..
gsp has been in harder battles then what thiago will bring!
i got gsp winning via tko late second~
but what do i know?~ i think guida is an exciting fighter~
and that guy never wins fotn or anything??
by stinky~fingers on Jun 23, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stinky-
Your posts are awesome but don’t mention Guida.
Your stock is like the real estate market.
You need to make a comeback, son.
Good start w/ picking GSP FTW.
:)
by OJR on Jun 23, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or kevin. He hates GSP although he respects him as a fighter.
by OJR on Jun 23, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Stinky. It will probably be somewhat competitive in the 1st, until GSP gets his 1st takedown. After that, it will be GSP by domination. I wonder what will go through the rest of the division’s minds when they see GSP completely tool Alves?
I hear that Guida has always had sick cardio. He once built and entire house in Chicago in 23hr and 37mins, stopping only twice to tame his hair. WAR GUIDA!!!
by Cole on Jun 23, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the first time I got to agree with Stinky. Thiago Alves is a good fighter, and he has a Matt Serra chance to win for sure but what can he do that GSP cant do better or move a lot quicker at?
by c-war on Jun 23, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a Serra chance to win? who do you think GSP is? listen to me now and get back to me when the fight is over… Alves is a wayy better striker than anyone GSP’s ever fought and a better striker than GSP is for sure! muay thai beats boxing and his power is insane, when he tags GSP on fight night it’s over and GSP won’t be able to take him down cause Thiago is gonna see it coming!!
2nd or 1st rd TKO, take that to the bank!
by RoB on Jun 23, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob: glad to hear somebody with some sense!
I am a really big GSP fan, except when he is fighting bJ and Alves….but you guys have been sleeping on Alves for too long. I still remember when I PROMISED this site that he was going to KO karo who had NEVER been Ko’ed, and everyone laughed at me. THis kid is for real, and will easily put GSP in the toughest fight of his life.
GSP has been so damn dominant that he hasnt had too many tough fights. The last time he was involved in a war, was over 3 years ago in the 1st Penn fight. Since then, he has been operating in cruise control except for the Serra mishap in the 1st fight.
Imo, alves fight will tell us a whole lot about GSP because he is facing many circumstances that he hasnt had to deal with in a very long time, if EVER! for example:
How will gSP perform without having a monster, size, strength and overall athletcism advantage over his opponent? THat is a HUGE question that awaits GSP! He has enjoyed tremendous advantages in those aspects in basically, ALL OF HIS FIGHTS!!! Thiago will match him, if not surpass him in those areas which makes for a very intriguing match up in my eyes.
Its very possible that Alves will stuff a lot of GSP’s takedowns, especially early on. If that happens, GSP will be stuck having to strike with a superior striker, for at the very least a round or 2. That is a position GSP has probably never been in, and especially hasnt been in, in at least 5 years…THats a new and unique challenge to GSP’s stellar career. I am very curious to see how he handles it.
GSP, has always been a front runner, and has never really been battered and had to come back from behind. Only time he has ever had to do that in his eNTIRE career was in the 1st BJ Penn fight which was ages ago, and realistically, bJ only put it on him for the 1st round. I am curious to see of GSP reacts to being battered early on in the fight. Make no mistake about it…GSP is going to take a beating. He still might go on to win the fight, but he will get Banged up in the process, and seeing how he reacts to the early onslaught, will realyl tell us a whole lot about what kind of a champion GSP really is.
Im with Rob, Alves will TKO GSP in the 1st 10 minutes of the fight!
I am reALLY STOKED about this fight, and I dont even use the word STOKED! lol. Besides, Fedor/Barnett, this is the biggest fight of the year for ME!
i cant promise that alves will win this fight like I did in his past 3 fights with Karo, Hughes and Koschek, HOw could I? We ARE talking about GSP here, who is without a doubt the best welterweight to ever lace up a pair of gloves (hughes has defended it more often, but isnt half the fighter even in his prime, that GSP is)….but I do know that GSP is going to have to dig really deep if he wants to walk away from this fight with his title. NOt only is it a match up between probably the 2 best pure athletes in the division, but its a match up that will provide unique hurdles for the champ that he hasnt had to overcome in his stellar career. When was the last time that GSP had to fight a guy that was better then him in even just 1 aspect of the game? Alves will be the better striker, and he will match GSP’s strength, size and athleticism. its going to be a FOCKING WAR!!~!!
I would be a total KLOWN if I guaranteed that any welterweight would beat GSP. But I can promise that its going to be a an epic fight that matches up, one of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport (that is still in his prime), against a very HUNGRY, young ANIMAL that is getting better with each fight at an alarming rate and will without a doubt, be the toughest test of GSP’s career!
At more then a +200 underdog, I have to bet at least a $100 on my boy Alves. HOw could I not? He has made me around $1000 in his last 3 fights and I predicted his meteoric rise back in NOvember of 2007…Too late to jump ship now.
As big of a GSP fan as I am, I hate to say it…..but,
WAR ALVES!!!!!
by JOhn G on Jun 23, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP learned his “lesson” after the Serra debacle. No stand up with dangerous opponents. Wrestling and then the good old G-N-P!
by OJR on Jun 23, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alves may have better striking and he may have good tdd but GSP cancels a lot of that. Alves’ striking is gonna suffer because hes gonna be worried about the takedown. As for Alves’ tdd I wont hold my breath. GSP had no problem taking down Fitch, Koschek, Sherk, Hughes, Karo or BJ.
People always talk about how GSP is going to deal with his opponent but the question really should be how are they gonna deal with him.
by NorthStar on Jun 23, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thiago is awesome at what he does, but the real question is, can he stuff the ungodly takedowns of GSP? I think he can maybe power out of a couple because of his strength and power, but I don’t think he’ll be able to for the whole fight personally. If he wants to hurt GSP he’s going to have to throw with some power which will probably leave him open to takedowns. GSP’s timing and power in takedowns are second to none in any weight class, and once it’s down it’s over for Alves. I haven’t even mentioned Alves’ reach problems, which will be a bigger factor for him than Kos, Hughes, and Karo.
I thought that Alves had a really good chance for a while there, until I started trying to think of him stuffing GSP over and over again and I realized that would be ridiculous. Alves would have to do what NO ONE has done, where GSP has to deal with a talented and powerful powerful striker.
by Dave on Jun 23, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob. I tried “to take that to the bank,” but the bank rejected it for insufficent funds. They said Avles closed that account and transferred all his money to GSP’s account.
by Cole on Jun 23, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha! =) too bad..
What’s good about Thiago Alves is that he’s a great counter striker, he does not just go out there and starts swinging wild like Kos does so that makes it a little harder for GSP to take him down..
And the fact that he is a better more diversified striker than all of GSp’s opponents makes it a little more dangerous too, he does have good knees that he could try to set GSP up for..
by RoB on Jun 23, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cole-
Classic!
You have just redeemed yourself for the Guida mess.
:)
by OJR on Jun 23, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t get me wrong, I think that Alves is a legit Top 3 (behind GSP and Fitch), but after seeing GSP completely hadle Fitch then BJ, He just seems to be a step above everyone else.
I agree that Alves is by far the most well rounded/dangerous striker GSP has faced, and Alves can put anyone to sleep with his power. I just see his striking being nullified by GSP’s grappling. Once it goes to the ground, it will be the end for Thiago. I really want to see Fitch/Alves II
by Cole on Jun 23, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what u guys fail to realize is that Alves wont have to stuff too many takedowns. He is seriously bRUTAL standing up. Everytime he stuffs a takedown, it will buy him about a minute of stand up time until then next take down is attempted by GSP and every minute that GSP stands with Alves is a minute that he is going to get battered down…and when he is getting battered, GSp’s takedown attempts will get weaker and weaker….and Alves’s confidence will be riding sky high, and go for the kill…walking away with he title!
by John G on Jun 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody thought that would be the case with Fitch. How wrong we all were. GSP better hope he does not get a knee strike while going for a take down.
by Ade on Jun 23, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when was the last time GSP shot low for a takedown from a distance? most of his take downs come from working in the clinch. don’t worry, he’s well aware of Alves’ knees, and won’t put his chin anywhere near them.
by pancakehead on Jun 23, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thiago sucked vs Karo (Karo Took him down) From Clinch.
What does everyone one think is going to happen when GSP tries.
Unless its over in under a minute I cant see Thiago with a lucky knee or punch winning.
George has way more tools to work with. And is just as big.
by SHAMWOW on Jun 23, 2009 7:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and is apparently bigger than usual from this camp
by McArthur on Jun 23, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn..bigger??..he is a serious chunk of muscle..but the pit bull is no slouch..though it’s hard to compare most normal humans to gsp..i want a battle but i will be sad if georges does not win..i will admit..
by sarah on Jun 23, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I would wanna see rumble vs Alves after he loses.
by SHAMWOW on Jun 23, 2009 7:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A Hughes takedown isn’t what it used to be, just cause he stopped Hughes doesn’t mean he’s going to stop GSP; George will take the same route in this fight he did in the Penn fight; wear him down in the clinch then TD, then GnP; then after he’s been on the ground beating him up for a rd or 2 he’ll out strike him too.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 23, 2009 7:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Odam: So I guess stopping a koschek takedown means nothing either?
I dont know if gSP can LOSE to anyone, including my boy….but I do know that this fight is going to be a whole lot different then the 2nd BJ Penn fight!
by JOhn G on Jun 23, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish people would stop re-writing history. Hughes DID get Thiago down in Round 1. He may not have done any damage on top, but he DID take him down.
And if old man Hughes can do it in 2008, you’d better believe GSP will do it.
by pancakehead on Jun 23, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your right, he did take Alves down in rd1. GSP will take him down easily. He is too unpredictable to stop.
by LJ on Jun 23, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, I didn’t even realize that Hughes got him down; even worse for Alves. As far as Kos goes, we all know that was short notice; he ended up trying to strike with Thiago for 3 rds, which is something GSP is not going to be trying to do.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 23, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see GSP win this early. That seems to be his game plan most of the time. Wear them down. I wanna see a freakin exciting win.
WAR GSP!!!
by neeko on Jun 23, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be surprised if GSP completely dominates Thiago.
Yeh, Thiago is a dangerous striker, but i can’t see GSP standing and trading with him, rather he’ll grapple with him, tire him out and then strike with him a little, take him down, GnP…rinse and repeat.
Thiago is best at leg kicks, something he’ll be VERY hesitant in throwing since GSP will be waiting for it to get the takedown.
by Xad on Jun 23, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes was a great fighter but as you can see GSP handled Hughes as well…GSP destroys Alves, I agree with X, wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a one sided beating.
by Robert(1) on Jun 23, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so…I also think GSP will stay on the outside for a rnd or 2 while Alves gasses
by McArthur on Jun 23, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stay on the outside?.. Alves is the one with the kicks, not very smart… his legs are longer than GSP’s jab
by RoB on Jun 23, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think people are too caught up in the hype right now, BJ Penn is nowhere near as dangerous as Thiago Alves is… Thiago has more power and way better standup than anyone GSP’s ever fought and this is going to be close, but Thiago has the luxury of only being one punch, kick or knee away from winning..
by RoB on Jun 23, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Noble beat the hell out of Alves in the stand up…hes good but not BJ Penn good.
by c-war on Jun 23, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, BJ is nothing and has nothing on Thiago in the standup… Thiago would take him to school everyday of the week, BJ is too small and too slow…
by RoB on Jun 23, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on C-war! We are having a good debate hear, and you bring up crap that happened ages ago? Normally the past does matter when analyzing a fight, but in this case it couldnt be any more irrelevant. The fighter that Alves is today, is completely different then he was in the noble fight. its like comparing apples and oranges. yOU might make the argument that gSP can outstrike him, thats fine, its your oppinion….but back it up with something substantial atleast…y even bring out that Noble crap? alves was like 22 when he fought noble and still had the body of a 13 year old boy. Why not bring up his loss to spencer fisher while you are at it? Or how about that time he got beat up on the beach in rio dejenaro back when he was 11 years old! lol
Anyone who says that GSP has the striking advantage isnt being reasonable, or just doesnt know very much about Alves. Muy Tai Wrecking Machine doesnt even begin to describe his game! He is Brutal!
by JOhn G on Jun 23, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
john G you make some good points, but you seem to think that alves will outstrike GSP, it may happen, but dont count on it. GSP is a one in a million athlete. GSP trains with WBA boxing champs, olympic HW wrestlers, and you know what they all say the same thing, that he can hang with them.IT DOESNT MATTER if alves is going to weigh more, GSP will still be stronger, faster, and way more athletic, you will be shocked how much better he is than his last fight with BJ. You will be suprised how easily gsp will dominate this fight, doesnt matter how good alves takedown defense, he is not facing koscheck, but someone with far superior wrestling, strenght, and athleticism. the wrestlers he trains with HW olympic wrestlers from canada and russia, are in a totally different league than anyone alves can prepare against, even when he trains with the likes of rashad evans, who im sure ways around 22olbs when not fighting, he cant stop gsp from taking him down. I see GSP bulluing alves against the cage, wearing him down in the clinch, taking him down at will, and battering alves in the standup, same game plan as he did to bj. People who assume alves is stronger than gsp HAVE NO CLUE HOW STRONG gsp IS. DOING millitary presses with 115 lb dumbells, and pullups with 135lb strapped to his waist is unreal,he threw around hughes who is animal strong like nothing. believe me alves might look stronger, but looks are deceiving. im sure a sumo wrestler looks stronger than an chimpanzee, but the chimp has 7x his strenght. GSP is a genetic freak, because he is the most athletic, and genetically gifted athlete his rate of improvement is allways greater, dont be suprised to see GSP manhandle alves.besides his strenght , he will be way quicker than alves.
by dtoto on Jun 23, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John g dont be so confident of alves so called striking advantage, just because gsp plays to his strenghts doesnt mean he cant strike, anytime after the serra fight, when standing he has won the battle. Anyway its a moot point, gsp will wear down alves in the clinch, take him down at will, and later batter him standing, like he did to bj. It doesnt matter who he trains takedown defense, GSP is not koscheck, he trains against a different league of wrestlers, olymmpic HWs from canada and russia. fighters like jardine have commented he is stronger than most LHWs, and if he doesnt have problems taking down people like rashad evans at will, alves wont stay standing either. some people seem to think alves will match him in strenght and athleticism, nothing could be farther from the truth. Its been reported GSP doing dumbell presses with 105 lb dumbells, and pulups with 135lb strapped to him. You will be suprised when you see him throwing around alves. when you train against HW olympians, and shane carwin alves will seem very weak. no one can stop gsps takedowns.
by dtoto on Jun 23, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually he train his boxing with GYM promotion and Joachim Alcine who is now the former WBA Middleweight Champion.
BUT Jean Pascal, another GYM boxer from Montreal, just win the WBC LightHeavyweight Championship a week ago so it’s gonna be a Champion to the other…
One of the best boxing promotion in the world.
by Jee on Jun 23, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dtoto, exellent post, you just saved me a lot of typing. Not only is GSP freakishly strong, he is also a master at using leverage to his advantage. I agree there is no way GSP will be shocked at Alves size, strength, punching power or speed. When you fight guys like Nate and Rashad every day, one dimentional guys like Alves will seem like a cake walk. Alves is in for a one sided beatdown, just like GSP’s last 4 victoms. GSP has to move to MW to find some competition and even then it will only be the top guys that challenge him.
by Gord on Jun 25, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP will not let Alves play to his strength. He never lets his opponent play to his strength. Just like the Fitch fight, and the Penn fight, and almost every fight GSP has, GSP is going to frustrate Alves and not let him get on the offence.
Seems every GSP fight Rogan and Goldberg call it GSP’s most impressive performance yet. This one will be no different.
by pancakehead on Jun 23, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and every fight is his “toughest fight of his career!”. Enough w/ all the BS. Alves has a punchers chance, just like everyone else.
by LJ on Jun 23, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF, Hughes DID take Alves down. Why is Dana making shit up?
by Pat on Jun 23, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!!! Dudes got an alarm whenever Dana is mentioned..
by McArthur on Jun 23, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and why is Dana still using Hughes as a bench mark??
by McArthur on Jun 23, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Hughes is the greatest ww of all time. daaaahh! everyone knows this my friend buy a book kid.
by mak on Jun 23, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol yeah mcarthur..you lil boy you..heh heh ;)..sorry mak hughes WAS the greatest ww..thus McArther is right for this statement..both of these fighters kicked his ass..
by sarah on Jun 23, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarah who other than these 2 have had there way with hughes? in recent times. and i dont count alves he couldnt make weight not even close. I think he is still a great bench mark. I agree hes not the best anymore but he is the greatest of alltime to this point. So sarah sorry honey. he for sure could be a bench mark still at this point. :)
by mak on Jun 23, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly…its like saying Royce is the greatest MW of all time…
by McArthur on Jun 23, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mak…he just took Serra to a dec that imo he lost…nuff said. Hughes isn’t even top five in the UFC let alone the world. Shall I list fighters at WW that could beat Hughes?? lil kid…HAHA
by McArthur on Jun 23, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true…but you know what I mean. Other than BJ, and GSP who did Hughes beat during his tenure that makes him “the greatest of all time”? By your rational, Tito should be considered the greatest LHW of all time….
by McArthur on Jun 23, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP, Alves, Swick, Kos, Fitch, Where is Hughes? Top 10 sure but not top 5.
by jay on Jun 23, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed…my money would be on Condit, Kampman, to beat Hughes too…
by McArthur on Jun 23, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also beat Trigg twice , Royce Gracie,sherk,Joe Riggs,Matt Serra,Carlos Newton twice,Renato Verissimo,Hayato Sakurai,and alot more. Not bad. Listen all im saying is this guy is the greatest WW of all time. will this change some day? Yes. Is he the best ritht now NO. That’s all im saying. GSP will pass him up some day. And i think he still has a couple fights left in the tank. I would like to see him vs the Heat.
by mak on Jun 23, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anthony Johnson would beat him too, Anthony is too young, fast and explosive…
by RoB on Jun 23, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has beat Trigg Twice,Matt Serra,Chris Lytle,bjpenn,GSP,Royce Gracie,Joe Riggs,Renato Verissimo,Sean Sherk,Gill Castillo,Carlos Newton twice,and Hayato Sakurai. There are alot more on the list but thats going back far. Listen all im trying to say is he is the greatest of all time as of now. im not going to go into how many titles he defended ect. He is getting older now i think he has a couple fights left in the tank. Do i think he is the best now? no. i put him in the top 10 though. I also think GSP will in time go down as the best ww of all time. I would like see hughes vs the heat for his next fight they were going to fight awhile back just never went down.
by mak on Jun 23, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry about the extra post ididnt show up the first time so i had to rewrite it. peace kids
by mak on Jun 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
way back when bj beat hughes with a rear naked choke..that was his first lose..but yeah..the matt hughes of old times is a bench mark…the recent matt hughes should just be on the bench..
by sarah on Jun 23, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok lol nevermind i think you missed my point. Ohwell have a nice day. UFC 100 around the corner :)
by mak on Jun 23, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen! I wish everyone would remember that HUGHES TOOK ALVES DOWN!
Mark my words – GSP is taking Alves down. Alves is putting all his chips on getting that one devastating strike in. When it doesn’t happen, he’s going to get frustrated, and make mistakes.
by pancakehead on Jun 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not buying it, I think gsp will make alves look like he shouldn’t even be in the cage. I would love to see gsp ko alves though, a little irony ya know? More than likely gnp maybe ud.
WAR GSP!!!!!!!
by Draogn on Jun 23, 2009 8:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok now lets break it down, Penn was bloated up with burgers to fight GSP and had no cardio…Alves is muscle from a higher weight and cutting down…GSP will try wear him down yes but when your clinching with a heavier guy on the night it wont be as easy….Watch the promo video GSP is talking about ALVES not knocking him out, shouldnt he be talking how hes gona beat him and not vice versa!!!
by Knight walker on Jun 23, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GSP is scared because ALVES is the only fighter GSP is gona fight who is a genuine striker KO power…Fitch is weak, Penn was 2 slow n chubby, M Hughes does even know how 2 standup, Serra we all know what happened there….
On the promo vid, GSP is talking how ALves is not gona knock him out, that seems hes scared, why isnt he talking about how hes gona beat ALves????
by Knight walker on Jun 23, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he is still relativly young, i know he thinks he’s the best and so he should. hes the number on contender not the best, i can see gsp out wrestling him for the 1st and 2nd round and then catching him in a submission or tko in rd 3, i like thiago but i see a anderson silva / rich franklin esque situation happening, if he loses he will get jon fitch and if he wins he gets jon fitch, but he wont win !
by apex103 on Jun 23, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmm well Anthony Johnson will be the champion in 2 years,,,Wrestling super strong, KOOOOOOO ability, Hands and Feet…Submission’s we dont know as yet!!
But back to the point Alves wont let GSP just take him down, he will give GSP a flying knee, so GSP will be weary of that, Standup Alves will pick him apart with LOW leg kicks and then punch combo!!
Confidence is a virtue, GSP doesnt fully believe in himself in this fight look at the promo!!
by Jugga on Jun 23, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah cause everything in the promo’s is always the way the fight goes. Very easily could be part of the Greg Jackson/ Firas gameplan. Remember Georges never talked shit about BJ Penn either. But the “promo” had all you GSP doubters thinking Penn was a threat to Georges, when in reality it was a easy fight for Georges.
by Couchchamp on Jun 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is going to be his toughest test, not if, change the title..
by guyverbob on Jun 23, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
also why do they act like he never fought koscheck, that was a goood showing for him so idk y they act like that fight never happend and that hughes never took alves down, im all for hyping fights up, but come on stop making stuff look different then the way it is, either way alves looks good so it seems like alittle down play imo..
by guyverbob on Jun 23, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
taking a fight of that magnatude on 3 weeks notice is a big deal
by McArthur on Jun 23, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will tell you why they don’t mention Koscheck. They are trying to hype the fight so they want it to seem like Alves has a chance. Alves couldn’t KO a wild striker like Kos (who took the fight on 2 weeks notice) and Kos rocked him a few times. Kos got KOed in his next fight by a shitty striker. It just doesn’t look good for Alves to mention his last fight going to a decision when GSP destroyed BJ. It makes Alves seem more dangerous than he really is, if they talk about how he Koed a pathetic Karo and not so hot anymore Hughes. Alves doesn’t KO top guys like Fitch and Kos, so it’s highly unlikely he will KO a guy who’s taken as little damage as GSP. Alves’s only shot at winning is by KO. Alves is good, but he ain’t no GSP.
by Gord on Jun 25, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALves will win by TKO , GSP is scared, watch the video he keeps commenting that he wont be knocked out…hes talking about weaknesses not his strengths …To me he is weary about Alves big time….
by Jugga on Jun 23, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does it bother anyone else to hear dana call everyone “kid”? its one thing to call a 20 year old that..but ive seen him do that to like 30 year olds…everyone is a “kid”
shit bugs me
thiago cant keep pace with gsp…its a 5 round fight…unless alves can finish within the first 2 hes gonna be in for a long night…no one in that division can keep a 25 minute pace with gsp…
i mean gsp just had a 4 rounder with bj and a 5 rounder with fitch, the championship rounds are a breeze for this guy…
i like this “kid” but if he doesnt finish it within the first 2 rounds hes done….gsp doesnt even break a sweat in the first 2 rounds
by HellaHectic on Jun 23, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
everybody is “kids” to him since he in his own mind is the “man” and the goddamn boss…
by RoB on Jun 23, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s also The Man and the goddamn boss in the UFC corporate hierarchy.
by PW on Jun 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do you mean he can cut to 170 wasnt he like 174 or 176 for the hughes fight and matt took the fight anyway. And that was a big mistake because this guy is way too big.
by mak on Jun 23, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i highly doubt alves is the guy to take out a game st. pierre who’s more on his game than 99% of everyone. i see this going like much of his other fights…lots of hype and people thinking alves will kill him, then alves gets schooled at his own game.
by Phil Baloni on Jun 23, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen. Totally agree.
But then, what would a fight be without a lot of hyperbole in the buildup?
by pancakehead on Jun 23, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if thiago can stuff gsp’s takedowns and take little damage when he is on the ground then I think he can take this fight. I give him a clear advantage standing up but keep in mind, he gives up a pretty sizeable reach advantage to gsp. If he’s unable to throw leg kicks b/c he’s afraid of getting taken down, then he can be in trouble but im hoping he can unleash a furry of punches like diago did against clay and try to catch gsp. Im definately pulling for thiago in this fight big time.
by bobby o'shea on Jun 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really dont see Thiago winning this fight, he lacks in reach which will be a huge factor and him being so heavy and cutting weight means he will be tiring out a lot quicker in the fight. i see him struggling a lot in the 3rd and 4th rounds and GSP will finish him there. George will take him down as well, the whole KO power gives him merely a punchers chance however with those little arms i doubt it will be a factor. I see it being like a sherk vs penn 2 fight where thiago misses punches by an inch every time. if he tries to throw leg kicks hes getting taken down, on the ground hes getting smashed,, then he ll get frustrated, tired in the later rounds and then beat until there is a referee stoppage or submission. done and done, not GSPs toughest test. ps his last three fights are Karo, Koschek and Hughes,, meh
by jackel on Jun 23, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he cuts to 170, bull-shit , he cant make weight.
by daz on Jun 23, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m a GSP fan but I have to admit I’m scared of this dude, he is huge, if he catches GSP in the clinch with an elbow or knee or something the fight ends…having said that, i see GSP winning this one by mid 3rd round via TkO (strikes, referee stoppage)
the question is, who is next? i really don’t want to see GSP vs Fitch 2 and I don’t see a clear #1 contender out there…
by Mascarita on Jun 23, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d love to see Swick get a shot. Not that GSP wouldn’t kill him, but it’d be fun.
by pancakehead on Jun 23, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Color me biased, but GSP has been on an absolute tear since getting his title back from Serra, and he’s done it by beating people at the very things they’re better than GSP at. Fitch was an all-world wrestler, and GSP outwrestled and out-GNP’ed him. BJ was the better striker and untouchable on the ground. GSP beat him in both phases.
I think we see GSP notch another thoroughly demoralizing win leaving Alves battered and worn out. Alves is talking about knocking him out- GSP and camp are thinking about finer points like stressing the muscles Alves will need to do that so his knockout power is negated.
In terms of a #1 contender, wasn’t there some talk of a catch-weight super fight between AS and GSP if he gets past Alves? That would be amazing to see! I do agree that I am not sure who’s left out there for GSP to consider game competition. The cupboard’s pretty bare…
by PWW on Jun 23, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SELL SELL SELL DANA! You know Thiago doesn’t have a chance!
by Jason on Jun 23, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to pull for GSP here. but they should just make this a catch weight of like 180 the alves could make the cut.
by mak on Jun 23, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ANTHONY JOHNSON IS THE MAN…GSP COULDNT TAKE HIM DWN NOW
by Jugga on Jun 23, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whenever I start to watch these videos it makes me worry about whether or not the fight will be fixed.
by sdow on Jun 23, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GSP is coming off of total domination of BJ Penn and John Fitch. Why should we think Alves is going to be any different. He is on another level right now, and it’s highly unlikely that anyone will beat him.
by LJ on Jun 23, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He has beat Trigg Twice,Matt Serra,Chris Lytle,bjpenn,GSP,Royce Gracie,Joe Riggs,Renato Verissimo,Sean Sherk,Gill Castillo,Carlos Newton twice,and Hayato Sakurai. There are alot more on the list but thats going back far. Listen all im trying to say is he is the greatest of all time as of now. im not going to go into how many titles he defended ect. He is getting older now i think he has a couple fights left in the tank. Do i think he is the best now? no. i put him in the top 10 though. I also think GSP will in time go down as the best ww of all time. I would like see hughes vs the heat for his next fight they were going to fight awhile back just never went down.
by mak on Jun 23, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All this analyzing gsp scared to get knocked out come now that is retarted. Yes alves does have some advantages striking and that leg kicks and knees. In his fights in recent past for example chris lytle, lytle won the 1st round boxing with alves. The only points alves scored that round were from legkicks. The second round lytle was battered by leg kicks and lost all his speed and power and lost due to a cut. But lytle outstruck alves fresh in the first round and that is a fact. Second koscheck did win a round striking with alves the second round. Was the score not 29-28? So before u guy say that alves has a huge advantage striking look at the fights he fought with strikers. He won those fights because of leg kicks. Does alves wanna leg kick gsp prolly not because fear of takedowns. As far as boxing goes reach adv gsp power adv alves, technique and speed go to gsp. Fitch said he was suprised how fast gsp was. Gsp will take this fight to the ground with ease, if karo and hughes can take alves down gsp will. And standing i wont be suprised if gsp wins that battle to.
by desperus on Jun 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lots of talk about thai kicks leading to GSP taking the pibull down..hes not going to stand there and throw kicks. The kicks will come from conbos and counter strikes..when gsp jabs his thigh is going to eat shin.
Thiago is also know for having a great clinch which is wear GSP likes to work for a takedown. he didnt have to worry about BJ be stronger or him grabbing the thai clinch to end his nite with one single knee… i dont think GSP wants to pumble with the pit bull. Also his muay thai technique is off the charts..so saying gsps is better is just a matter of opinion. they have different styles when it comes to the stand up
also i see people talking about the pace and how thiago will gas…he put a high pace beating on KOS and wasnt even breathing heavy when joe had the mic in his face…when has he ever gassed or looked tired in a fight..ive never seen it… early 3rd TKO Pitbull… GSP said when you fight him you have to worry about losing and getting hurt. both will happen on july 11th
by RedSweat83 on Jun 23, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kos didnt try to take him down once untill the third round. By then his leg was battered and he didnt have no pep in his step. If kos wasnt so in love with boxing that fight would of went to the ground and he would have had a better shot.
by desperus on Jun 23, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Desperus makes the most sense of anyone here. Lytle was kicking alves ass in the first round, karo also won a round so did koscheck. Gsp is much better than those guys. I think gsp is too smart to get ko’d, if alves couldn’t do it to koscheck I really doubt he could do it to gsp. Yes alves is a tank but so what? Its not a body building contest, gsp is a 3rd degree blackbelt and very good with kicks, no way he’ll be eating leg kicks like koscheck did or lytle.
Anything could happen in this fight it could be serra/gsp 1 all over again or gsp/fitch or whatever. Who ever said gsp is finally facing someone better than him in one area is wrong. Both serra and penn have higher level bjj than gsp and penn and pett spratt were better boxer’s than him, and he owned all of them. Alves is most dangerous in the pocket or the clinch and I’m sure gsp is no moron and knows this and will have a good game plan for him, but ya never know what will happen this is MMA.
by nathan on Jun 24, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thiago better have froze a gallon of blood to shoot up before the fight…oops sorry for telling ;-)
by StreetFighter on Jul 7, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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