TUF 9 Finale recap and post fight discussion for June 20 Spike TV event
by Adam Wagner on Jun 21, 2009 12:13 AM EDT
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The results of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 9 Finale are in, which aired live from "The Pearl" at the Palms Resort in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Spike TV tonight (June 20).
TUF 9 final competitions at welterweight and lightweight resulted in unexpected victories, and the remaining main card fights resulted in the promotion handing out an unexpected (and unprecedented) three "Fights of the Night."
It was an entertaining evening of mixed martial arts action to say the least.
Vying for the top contender spot in the lightweight division, Diego Sanchez outlasted a determined Clay Guida in a three-round, absolute war that, honestly, could have gone either way. While Sanchez won the night via split decision (29-28, 29-27, 28-29), Guida showed tremendous heart in the back-and-forth battle.
Widely considered the favorite in the fight, Sanchez came out to take an early lead, landing a tremendous right head kick that rocked Guida and helped "The Nightmare" control the action in the first round.
The consummate warrior, Guida returned to action in the second round, securing an early takedown and maintaining control of the fight for a significant portion of the round. Near the end of the round, as Guida hovered over Sanchez, blood started flowing, and it was unsure who it was from. Sanchez looked like a bloody War Machine. As the round came to a close, it became clear the cut was the Carpenter’s.
The final frame began with Guida bleeding clearly from the nose. He got the better of the early exchanges, but Sanchez quickly turned the tide, landing several counter strikes and controlling the remainder of the round.
At the end of the day, Sanchez secured the victory and very likely his place among the top of the UFC’s lightweight division, along with Gray Maynard and Frankie Edgar, who anxiously await the results of UFC 101, where reigning champion BJ Penn squares off against current number one contender Kenny Florian.
Also in the lightweight division, two UFC top 10 lightweights, Joe Stevenson and Nate Diaz, looked to get back on track from recent losses inside the Octagon. The story of the night was a determined Joe "Daddy" Stevenson, who battled back from three losses in his last four fights to out-point Diaz in route to a unanimous decision victory. Diaz — the TUF 5 champion who racked up five Octagon victories before dropping his last two — will now look to find his own place in the crowded 155-pound division.
Of course the purpose of the night was to honor the TUF 9 finalists from the United Kingdom and United States, namely U.K. lightweights Ross Pearson and Andre Winner, U.K. welterweight James Wilks and U.S. welterweight DeMarcus Johnson.
Johnson entered the event as the heavy favorite to win victory; however, Wilks quickly demonstrated why he was considered so dangerous on the ground and standing up, landing several combinations before rolling and eventually taking Johnson’s back and securing both hooks in. With fewer than eight second left, Johnson tapped, become the latest victim of Wilks’ underrated ground game, after slugger Frank Lester fell victim to it twice during the regular season.
In other TUF action, the lightweight finale resulted in another upset, as brawler Ross Pearson was able to out-weather favorite Andre Winner to secure the six-figure contract. The unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28) was the result of a hard-fought matchup with both fighters trying to press the action to the cage. In the final frame, Pearson ended up showing more heart, trying for takedowns and landing the better of several exchanges on the feet.
Rounding out the televised portion of the card was a hard-hitting Chris Lytle against Kevin Burns. Always known for his standup wars, Lytle again delivered, while "The Fire" left nothing on the table other than pure heart. The final result was a well-received "Fight of the Night" honors for both fighters.
In fact, the UFC made a bit of personal history, awarding three separate fights with "Fight of the Night" honors, including Lytle vs. Burns, Sanchez vs. Guida and Stevenson vs. Diaz. In addition to $25,000 doled out to those six fighters, Tomasz Drwal earned "Knockout of the Night" honors over Mike Ciesnolevicz, while TUF 9 lightweight competitor Jason Dent secured "Submission of the Night" honors over fellow U.S. teammate Cameron Dollar.
All in all, it was a great night of fights, as the UFC looks to add a definitive top lightweight contender to its rankings in Diego Sanchez, along with several up-and-coming stars in TUF champions James Wilks and Ross Pearson.
So that's it from us -- what do you have to say about TUF 9 Finale? Sound off in the comments sections below. To check out complete TUF 9 Finale results can be found right here.
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im so happy the one gdje gave diego the second cuz all clay did was hold him for 4 mins and get destroyed with elbows
by JG on Jun 21, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
but that one judge should have given him the 3rd too…
by RoB on Jun 21, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I had Winner, but they both played it so safely. I’m rewatching the fight and they cancel each other out the whole round and then Winner decides to flurry in the last 5 seconds of rounds 1 & 2. Overall I thought he had a little more of the control. But he deserved what he got for coasting it and thinking it was going to be enough.
Joe Daddy/Diaz was a great technical match. Joe looked sharp, his sub defense improveed, his ground game looked alot more inventive, he kept his composure. He not only controlled Nate the whole time but he stayed really active, had Nate in compromising positions the whole fight and wore him out. Good for him and he needs to stay with the Jackson camp.
I’m surprised Wilkes took out Demarques so handedly. I thought Demarques would take the win, didn’t see Wilkes be that dominant during the season. D got his ass handed to him. Wilkes just worked the shit of him.
Lytle/Burn was a good brawl. Not much to say there.
Diego was no joke tonight! He totally dominated as most thought he would, but he was a total savage. I guess the wind, rain and ocean vibes told him to have no mercy. That being said Guida has a HELL of a chin and is tougher than mf’er. Not that I didn’t know that before but he spent 90% of this fight in the fire for real and survived. Shit he had the nerve to be jumping up and down afterward.
Excellent card tonight overall.
by DSmith on Jun 21, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
It was close but I agree Pearson was busier and looked a lot fresher at the end of the fight. When the bell sounds to end the 3rd round, you see Pearson scale the fence to celebrate and Winner drop to a knee with blood pouring from his nose. I think he lost steam in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and that lack of energy must play a factor in the judges scorecards in a close fight. Good decision I think. Going into it, I thought Winner would take it but I think his conditioning was a little lacking. Interesting to see how they fair down the road in the UFC…
by sudnvictory on Jun 22, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Ross was busier in the fight and I thought he landed the more solid punches, Winner was hurt about 3 times in that fight and Ross wasnt, GREAT FIGHT
THOUGH!!!!
by Spyder on Jun 21, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Which moron judge gave that fight to Guida?
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Jun 21, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions
Rogan is usually good at pointing things out like this….I wonder why he never said anything negative about Guida’s hugging?
by Robert(1) on Jun 21, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
He kept calling it ‘neutralizing submissions’.
by DSmith on Jun 21, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I made an absolute killing tonight! I had a lot of $ on Diego. I had $25 straight on both Ross and Wilks. I had Lytle straight for some decent money…and I had JOe daddy (good odds), although I was actually rooting for nate! Only bet I lost money on was Tibau.
ViolentMIke: Everytime I piggyback your LOKS, they Lose. My bad HOmmie. (Shekf losing to edgar, Tibau losing to Melvin)
Diego put on a show! What a performance. His striking was really Nasty. flying Knees, head kicks, uppercuts, elbows…what an all out assault! I will have to give huggie some props for showing a lot of heart and grit…also Big UPs to his chin! But he still did, what he always does. Works for the takedown, then sits in your guard, not even attempting to try to pass it..and he then puts his head on his opponents chest (COWARDLY) and does a variation of “Swicking OUt”. Never attempts to pass guard, never attempts any submissions, barely ever even postures up to try and land a power strike in the G n P….Its just Pathetic actually! The guy doesnt even remotely TRY to Finish a fight. If he isnt matched up against an exciting opponent….he will Bore us to death on route to decision wins EVERY SINGLE time…Same tired acts! Its really true, his fights are only exciting cause his opponents are exciting…because Guida fights the same exact way every time. Look at the Danzig fight….that was boring as hell…why cause Danzig is boring! But when you combine an a supperior opponent with an exciting style and guida’s frantic pace…then you get for a very entertaining fight.
Guida takes ZERO chances! NO risk, NO REWARD! All he does is stay in the Safest positions as possible through out an entire fight. THats why his offense blows. He basically just wants to get top position, and defend his way to a decision. Its pretty pathetic that he had top position during the entire 2nd round…and Diego threw 2 times the amount of strikes off his back, then Clay did out of top position.
Im sorry, but even though he has heart, a chin, and doesnt quit…I cant get behind a guy that just fights tRYING NOT TO LOSE! He never attempts to pass guard! Why? Cause its safe! If he tries to pass guard, he leaves himself open to be swept. He never postures up to land power punches when he is in his opponents guard! Why? Because that would allow his opponent a chance at a submission. I mean, sure you could say that he is very good at nullifying his opponents, but in the process, he nullifies his own attack…and it leaves us, with very little action. Lucky for us, that Diego is a warrior and with Huggie doing everything in his power to dry hump, Diego still managed to make it an exciting match and put a hurting on guida!
I did tell everyone to bet $25 straight on wilks and Ross! I didnt neccessarily think they would win, its just that the odds favored them, and I didnt feel that the favorites where good enough to dominate the fight. I knew it would be really close with Ross and Dre, so I went with the odds and bet Ross…and in the other fight…I thought demarcus was really over rated, and I saw a lot of skill in Wilks…and I believed that he would look Phenominal in the Finale after going back to his own camp and training for this fight in a real fight camp, instead of 2 days notice like on the show, while implementing things that he learned on the show, because you could tell that Wilks took the full advantage of the wolfsliar coaches.
Lytle did what Lytle Does! Entertai9ns the FOCK out of us.
Stevenson/Diaz was very technical grappling display. BUt I knew it would lack excitement because Joe had to go in there with a safe gameplan because he couldnt afford another loss right now. and as an underdog, I had to bet some money on the more experienced, higher ranked fighter. that had his back up against the wall!
Great event!
I knew that Nick would beat Lester…I wish I had gotten odds on that fight. NIck has a really bright future on the sport! I think when its all said n done, NIck will probably be the best fighter to come out of this season!
Only dark cloud was losing some money by betting on my boy tibau..
Joe Rogans stand up was good. NOt great, but solid!
by JOhn G on Jun 21, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
John, I didn’t realize you were on the Ross Pearson and James Wilkes War Wagons. I talked to kevin about that earlier. Most guys thought Winner and D were gonna roll. I thought Wilkes would win via KO/TKO and Pearson would win via TKO or UD. I love Ross. I really thought he seemed like the type of guy who would make the most of this opportunity and really step up. I love his attitude and he seems like another Lytle type. He’s always gonna come to fight. I know he won the contract so he’s gonna be around awhile, but I feel like he’s really meant to cut to 145 and that means a trip to WEC.
Also….Props to you for watching a live event for the first time this year!
by Crowls on Jun 21, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Mixed night, it was great watching Wilks destroy Demarques, I’ve hated that guy since the first episode so props to Wilks as he went in to become a better fighter and not a reality star like some of Team US.
I was a little disappointed in the Winner-Pearson fight, I was expecting more action, but it was very close and could have gone either way, good for Ross but Andre also has a bright future.
Also great watching Diego destroy Guida, I had him winning every round as 1 was as dominant a round as you can get without a stoppage, in 2 Diego had an active guard and threw more strikes from the bottom and again he was the more active fighter in 3. All Guida did was hold and takedowns as usual, Diego made that an exciting fight, Clay is only worth watching when he is getting beaten up as he has a great chin and cardio but no offense other than takedowns. Dodgy judging to give Clay the win, all he had was the better control, Diego was the one doing all of the offence. I was worried that he was going to get screwed over like Nate was last time. Diego deserves the next LW title shot now.
Gutted that Nate lost, I was very disappointed in his performance. I’m suprised he didn’t work on his takedown defence more after the Guida fight and try to keep the fight standing as he had a massive reach advantage. Still can’t stand Joe Daddy but he got the win that he needed. I have no idea how this fight got FOTN though, the other two FOTNs were a lot better.
Lytle-Burns deserved FOTN, once again Lytle put on a great show even if he doesn’t have KO power he always has exciting fights. He deserved the decision but Burns did a good job and almost stopped him. Lytle-Hardy should happen next.
by David W-S on Jun 21, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
This will be a short post because I agree 100% with everything John said. Somebody needs to tell these freaking idiot judges that just because a guy is on top doesn’t necessarily mean he’s winning. Diego was attempting submissions (expertly stifled by Huggie, according to Rogan) and did more damage striking from the bottom than Huggie did from the top. That should have been an easy 30-26 win for Diego.
by PW on Jun 21, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see how Guida deserves anything better than 27-29 from any judge in that fight.
MMA needs more 10-8 rounds and more 10-10 rounds. I think it would help eliminate some controversial decisions.
by Prokstar on Jun 21, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, I had Diego winning the second due to damage from the bottom, but figured the judges would give the round to Guida based on top position. I honestly thought the fight would end up as a draw, with rounds 2 and 3 going to Guida and round 1 as a 10-8 for Sanchez, but felt diego won 29-27
Maybe Guida won’t get so much hate from this site now? You can’t deny the guy has heart after taking such a beating in round 1 and never giving up.
by yohnstoppable on Jun 21, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He has heart and obviously has a great chin. As soon as he does ANYTHING to attempt to win a fight I’ll stop hating on him.
by PW on Jun 21, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly PW! HIs chin and heart has NEVER been in question! Its his fighting style and the fact that he is just satisfied sqeeking out rounds by late takedowns!
Guida has the worst ground game I have ever seen! Im am being serious!
He has a great takedown game, but is ground game is elementary!
by JOhn G on Jun 22, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Seeing Guida lose that match thrilled the crap outta me! The main event between Diego and Clay was better than the whole card of UFC 99! Yup I said it!!
by TheEder on Jun 21, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions
I agree, 99 sucked compared to tonight.
Guida got owned
by jtc2112 on Jun 21, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The ref that gave it to Guida need to get shot, and if Guida would have won, i think I would have quit watching mma…. thank god nether happened
by Riskreturngroup on Jun 21, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions
feel the same way, even though guida got the take downs sanchez was the more active fighter, those elbows from him were brutal, much better than florians on lauzon! really enjoyed these fights, excellent free card, i really hope florian beats penn so we can see sanchez/florian 2!
by jslim on Jun 21, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
yea scandalous that Guida got one judge on his side, the problem is that judges like that can ruin anyone’s career… They need to ban that judge from all future UFC events…
by RoB on Jun 21, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed, that was crazy. those elbows reminded me of the war machine v Jroc fight. Diego did far more from the bottom than Guida did from the top. I’ll give it to him tho, the kid has a shit load of heart and a hell of a chin. I was killing myself laughing when it looked like Diego was gonna blast him out in the first minute. Stink~ you have to admit, Guida got the TD’s but did little to nothing with them but hold on. Never really advanced position and landed no effective GNP.
by Crowls on Jun 21, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Diego dominated that nut HUGGER!!!!!! Diego vs Gray, EDgar get shot at winner!!! I know gray bet Frankie, but Edgar beaten better guys!!!
by pan am champ on Jun 21, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
What a war that was between Diego & Guida! How can you not respect them 2. Man is Guida Tough, almost anybody else would have been knocked out in the 1st. Diego has the heart of a Lion!
Disappointed in DeMarkus, but Wilks looked great & much improved!
Lyte vs Burns was a good fight, I just wish Burns wouldnt have gased out. Although I think Body shots was cause!
by Mark on Jun 21, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
Diego dominated that nut HUGGER!!!!!! Diego vs Gray, EDgar gets TITLE shot at winner!!! I know gray bet Frankie, but Edgar beaten better guys!!!
by pan am champ on Jun 21, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
Me fail english? That’s unpossible!
Oh, and how the hell would edgar get a title shot vs the winner of Diego and Maynard? you know there is something called the lightweight belt, which penn and florian are fighting for at ufc 101, right?
Although I might have misunderstood the post. Sounds like a drunken retard posted it.
by yohnstoppable on Jun 21, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
holy crap..guida’s chin is not even human..and he was still bouncing around like an autistic hyper active kid at the end of it all..it was a close fight..sorry stinky, i still hate his hair so much..
great night of free fights..joe daddy was impressive..i thought winner was gonna be the winner, but ross was good..the yanks were so weak this season i am glad the uk did a sweep..james looked really awesome..glad for him..
by sarah on Jun 21, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
mmalinker.com
Should have all the fights
by lilmonster on Jun 21, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha Stinky so where’s ur boy Guida now! Oh! I forgot Buster as well! You guys were nuts to choose Clay over Diego!
by TheEder on Jun 21, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
i said it would be close~ alot closer then u all thought!!
u guys were the ones who were wrong!!~ big tome wrong..
and yet u still hate??
lmsao~
it was fotn~ and the guy is boring??
hahahaha~ i should switch websites and go to sherdog..
by stinky~fingers on Jun 21, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Give Guida some respect. Who else in the entire UFC gets rocked like that and continues to bring it for 3 rounds?
by E dogg on Jun 21, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
Seriously that head kick was on point…i thought it was over
by tiger_style on Jun 21, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Love or hate Guida, you have to give him credit for getting the most of the limited skillset he has. Put his heart with even mediocre striking skills, he’d probably win a belt at some point.
As for Diego, I’d still like to see another win over a legit top 5 guy before he gets a title shot. He definitely deserved the W, but let’s not forget he’s got decision wins over Guida and Joe Daddy, good fighters but not elite.
by CL on Jun 21, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
this was fight of the year!!
give sanchez his title shot!!!!!!!!
by bryant on Jun 21, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
FOTY .. NAH .. plus its to early in the year.
by WutangSwordsman on Jun 21, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
they need to use Guida as an example of how he should get almost no credit for those stalling takedowns … it pisses me off when fighters get credit for take down and stall….it should be something that judges frown upon and be a way to win fights. Nothing wrong control and ground and pound…. but i think everyone knows the difference of what i mean
by Riskreturngroup on Jun 21, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
I see your point somewhat, and definitely prefer a more dynamic style of fighting. Still, shouldn’t the guy being held down share the blame for being taken down and laid on? I mean, do something about it!!! Also…if it truly is just “stalling”, isn’t it the ref’s job to break the stalemate and stand them up?
by CL on Jun 21, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
atleast diego was going for submissions, so Guida was stuck on top, so can give him credit for that …right?
by Riskreturngroup on Jun 21, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. Diego definitely scored being on the bottom. I’d have scored the fight….
1st 10-8 Diego
2nd 10-9 Guida
3rd 10-9 Diego
by CL on Jun 21, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the same goes for repeated failed takedowns that result in nothing but holding the guy against the cage and tugging his leg once in a while. Give points to the other guy for stuffing the takedown repeatedly and consistently. In my opinion it doesn’t show octagon control, it shows a serious inability to get even remotely close to a successful takedown.
by Prokstar on Jun 21, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez is the man!
Absolutely dismantled Guida in the first.
Glad judges saw past the lay and pray but looked at ACTIVITY and DAMAGE done!
Sanchez TITLE SHOT!!!
by Jeff on Jun 21, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
I loved the card
Probably one of best free cards
I still wish I could see the prelims
Diego vs frankie or maynard
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get next shot
How bout joe daddy
Great game plan, I think joe daddy vs guida should happen next
by phenomenal angel on Jun 21, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
I’d love to see a double KO in a Joe Daddy-Guida fight, can’t stand either of them and it’d be the first time in a while that I hate both fighters. I’d probabaly have to mute the video package though.
by David W-S on Jun 21, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
excellent blood bath on free tv … i have nothing against guida i enjoy watching him , man seriously must drink 200 redbulls before a fight cause he can get beat down like that and still jump up and down like a madman after the 3 rounds… crazy stamina … what an enjoyable fight … diego definately deserves a shot at the winner of penn vs florian … outstanding main event i can’t remember the last time i got so excited during a fight … hope ufc 100 can top that fight .. great example of what fighting is all about .
by monoxide911 on Jun 21, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
Big nog got finished in his last fight. Finished good. Guida has yet to be finished by KO or TKO. Hey, I don’t love him or anything but respect his relentless style.
by E dogg on Jun 21, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
If you are wondering why Joe Rogan wasn’t say anything about Clay’s holding is because they train together. Deigo took allthree rounds in my opinion…
by Conman 505 on Jun 21, 2009 12:46 AM EDT reply actions
That explains a lot. Joe usually calls people out when they aren’t doing anything. And Huggie did nothing,as usual.
by PW on Jun 21, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Guida was stalling after those takedowns, Diego was simply defending against transitions and strikes from the bottom. There’s a lot of dislike of Guida, but I thought he won those last two rounds, that third round was his I think, he was beating Diego standing up and nullified those submission attempts with ease. Problem was the ref not standing them back up in time when they were obviously not doing anything.
In any case, I think the most interesting thing learned from that main event was from Diego’s failure to finish Guida, who has less than stellar stand up skills, but was out-striking Diego in the latter half of their fight. I think Florian and Cry Baby Penn could beat Diego in the stand up game and possibly both have edges in the ground game. Diego’s good, but is afflicted by too much hype, he’s not as good as they say he is (that’s the UFC hype machine at work).
by Belisarius on Jun 21, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions
I agree. Diego will have trouble with Florian and Penn. He seemed to gas in the end as well which is usually Penn’s problem too.
by E dogg on Jun 21, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions
Lytle’s got a good chin, it’s a shame he couldn’t finish Burns and really secured the come back form the brink victory. Wilks looks like one of the better TUF prospects of the last 2-3 seasons, maybe they should match him up against Amir Sadollah if he ever makes it into the cage. What was with Dana calling out Vitor Belfort to fight Anderson Silva? Kinda random thing to hear, especially since Belfort is signed with M-1/Affliction.
Thought of this randomly during the event… Swick vs Anthony Johnson. Would be exciting.
by Belisarius on Jun 21, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions
good fight there, but swick is far ahead of AJ at this point. It would do nothing for him in the title picture except maybe show that he can handle that type of strength/athletecism. The fight that makes sense to me right now is Swick vs. Kampmann for a title shot. They were both contenders at 185. Maybe early for Kamp at 170, but the kid is legit and there isn’t any other fights out there right now to determine a next contender. Fitch is fighting Thiago(why is anyone’s question) and he trains with Swick. Kos just lost. Hughes doesn’t deserve a shot. Condit isn’t ready and needs some wins. Unless they sign Nick Diaz(which is not likely), there is no clear next contender.
by Crowls on Jun 21, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
re post from last week
Ok, Bear with me, I just put alot of thought into this. I realize I’m missing a few guys from the division but after today’s fights, I started thinking about the 170’s. This is what I’ve got for matchups.
GSP v Alves(booked)
Fitch v P. Thiago(booked)
Swick v Kampmann(#1 contender fight)
Hardy v A. Johnson
Kos v Hughes
Condit v McCrory
Hazelett v Almeida(he dropped to 170 right)
Serra v Karo P.
Matt Brown v C. Wilson
B. Saunders v Yoshida
P. Taylor v Davis
P. Kelly v Lytle
these are in no particular order, just matchups i think would make sense and lend to good fights. I’d also love to see Riggs and especially Diaz back in the mix. Diaz immediate title shot at winner of GSP alves. Shields would be good too but I’m not sold on him and I don’t think he has the balls to ever come to the UFC. I think he struggles with all the top 10 and gets smashed by quite a few of the UFC’s elite 170’s.
by Crowls on Jun 21, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d love that A Johnson vs Hardy matchup.
Davis already beat P Taylor
Karo is out on suspension till October year because of banned substance(s) in his last post fight drug screen.
Should Swick – Kampmann be the #1 contender fight? Maybe
by sudnvictory on Jun 23, 2009 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m a huge veto fan, have been hopping for this for a while, but i am surprised he said anything before his fight…what if he looses, Dana cant market that fight then…should of kept his mouth shut… but Belfort back in UFV would be bad ass
by Riskreturngroup on Jun 21, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions
I had guida by underdog win. But like I figured would happen. Sanchez just outlasted him. Guidas got a hell of a chin. The thing is….realistically. Hes to small for the weight class. His name is big enough now that if he decided to do 145 in the WEC. Hed be a huge draw for the org. And probably an immediate contendet for the title. And probably win it. Even against Brown.
Sanchez. Wow. Im gonna go ahead and say he probably beats Penn. But Florian…this new florian. Im not sure.
Its a shame Lytle is only a gate keeper because that guy always bring it. Good win for him though.
And I missed the Diaz stevenson fight. But glad to see stevenson back in the winning lane and diaz losing. Ill never be fans of the diaz brothers. No matter how good they might be.
And the jackson camp would take Kimbo Slice and miraculously turn him into a champ. There working some voodoo shit over there.
by terribleone on Jun 21, 2009 1:53 AM EDT reply actions
you know what, I’m not a fan of Guida, but if he can make the cut(i doubt he can), he would make a splash at 145. I would perhaps be excited to watch him fight being the bigger stronger guy. I really don’t think he can get that low tho. Look at his chest, the guy isn’t muscular but his midsection is thick. He’s barrel chested I guess you’d say.
by Crowls on Jun 21, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I lost all my bets minus the Wilks. Got a decent turnout with that, but lost money overall. Sucks too. I had a nice set of winnings from the Strikeforce in St. Louis and from the Pitt taking the Stanley Cup only to lose it on a bunch of dogs here.
Glad Dent got the win. I had plenty of confidence that he’d submit Cameron, and with my favorite move, nonetheless. I knew Nick would smash Lester too. Too bad I paired Dent with Tibau and Nick with Andre. I had a big parlay with Nate/Diego, and that really wrecked me. I think I got screwed over on the Blackburn/Garcia decision. I had money on Garcia, and I heard he shoulda won.
Not sure what Tibau is thinking by losing a decision to Melvin Guillard. That was strange.
by Syn on Jun 21, 2009 1:54 AM EDT reply actions
i guess im the only one that is not at all impressed with diego the guy drops down from WW and now is one of the bigger LW in the ufc he had to of wieghed around 173 at fight night and probably outwieghed guida by at least 10 lbs and he still couldnt finish him. and to top it off guida out wrestled sanchez and put him on his back.
guida is the one who impressed me the guy is gritty and tuff as hell.
by dia mette on Jun 21, 2009 3:33 AM EDT reply actions
what impressed you with guida is he’s gritty? as in tough to finish?
but your not impressed with sanchez cuz he couldnt finish the ‘gritty’ guida?
i dont man you kinda cancel yourself out on that one.
by Jeff on Jun 21, 2009 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
guida has yet to be outwrestled by anyone, so I don’t have much of a problem with that. As for the ability to finish, Guida has one of the best chins I’ve seen. Diego probably could have finished in the first if he went for it more and let it all hang out. The danger however is with a guy who can smother you and maintain top position so well, it’s a bad choice to take risks to finish. Huerta was able to finish because he was getting killed on the scorecards and he had nothing to lose at that point.
Another note on that fight. For everyone who makes the argument that Guida is an exciting fighter and uses that fight as a reference…the only reason that fight was so great was because of the comeback. I promise, if Guida takes Huerta down in the third and controls him and wins a UD, we don’t ever talk about that being an exciting fight.
by Crowls on Jun 21, 2009 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions
i hate how everyone likes guida so much. all he does is hold guys down without inflicting any damage.
by jack on Jun 21, 2009 4:27 AM EDT reply actions
Guida was robbed I can’t believe how lucky Sanchez is and how he keepts getting these gift decisions what a joke. Guida controlled him the entire second round from the top and outstruck him in the third. It’s unbelievable how Clay keeps getting jobbed out by horrible judges who have no idea how to judge this sport. The only thing that tonight proved is that Guida is an elite LW and he can beat anyone in his division unless the ref’s take it away from him what a joke.
by EJ on Jun 21, 2009 4:57 AM EDT reply actions
Wilks was awesome. He shut ‘Big D’ up good. Continues like that…we got a decent prospect for the future. And hes British :-)
by UK_Chris on Jun 21, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions
no way in hell the first round was 10-8. people acting like diego had him “out on his feet 4-5times” BS. he was rocked once and that was the kick. diego doesnt have enough power in his hands to knock anyone out standing, and landing 10 or so shots on guida in the first and not rocking him showed that if u ask me, not to mention guida standing right back up after the kick. so sick of listening to people praise this guy, he’s basically a lightweight bisbing. if his striking is so great, why did he land 10 clean punches in the first? why was he able to get up immediatly from a flush headkick? if his grappling is so great, why did he sit on his ass for 3 1/2mins without ever getting close to standing up? if his submission game is so great, why was he never cloe to finishing the fight. stop listening to praise and watch the fights.
by storhaug on Jun 21, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
I think Guillard was gifted with the decision in the Tibau fight on the undercard. Neither guy was dominant but Tibau certainly had more control. It must suck getting burned by a crappy decision.
by sudnvictory on Jun 23, 2009 6:29 AM EDT reply actions
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