Yep, he’s built like a black man alright[as massive as, or even more massive than Kimbo, LOL], but his d!ck is that of a white boy. But in fairness, his d!ck-sword tattoo could be as big as a black dude’s, hehehe!

Yea those guys were not Pharmaceutically enhanced at all right? Naaaawwwww!

and they were not Pharmaceutically enhanced at all right?

Oops computer froze….. sorry for the double

lol, this is just a stupid subject, people will believe what they want to believe; the prevailing mentality here seems to be “don’t confuse me with facts my mind is made up”. It wouldn’t matter if he could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did not use roids, most of you guys would make the accusation regardless. I do think that the guy is genetically gifted, you do not get that type of bone structure from using roids/HGH.

“HGH does not cause abnormal bone growth (Acromegalia). After a person’s period of natural growth in childhood, the ends of their bones fuse and quit growing.”

Was reading about HGH (as I was looking into using it myself if I could get my hands on it) and that was one of the medical facts I came across in my reading. You cannot get the kind of frame that guy has just from using HGH/steroids. But I know that info will likely just be waved off/dismissed by most readers and they just continue to believe w/e they want.

Dont’ get me wrong, I’m not saying he is clean and never used roids, but I am saying that I don’t know. I’m not gonna condemn the guy for something that I have no idea about.

c’mon cut the bullshit! get a pic up from when he were in the WWE and compare it to 1 were he is in the UFC you’ll see the difference

the WWE dont test anyone if they did what happened to benoit would have never happened

My understanding is that HGH will in fact cause abnormal bone growth. I remember back when all the press was going after Barry Bonds they showed before and after pics revealing that Bonds’ skull had actually gotten larger. I’m not an expert here by any means but that build of Lesnar’s seems unnatural to me. Having said that, I’m 5’11 and weigh 170 so any man that size seems unnatural to me. LOL!

UFCaddict, you do realize any picture of Brock you have from the WWE vs when he joined the UFC will have 2-4 years difference in time right??

my point there basically being, that in 2-4 years of not body building/not training to look good on camera is going to make an inpact; like I’ve said before, I’m not psychic like you guys, so I’ll stand by my original answer which is: “I don’t know” ;)

yees, it does greggo… if you use it when you’re young you can become taller and all sorts of stuff..

there was this guy that passed 100 tests before he got caught, that guy inserted a ton of blood into his body a couple of times on the morning of the tests..
Maurice Greene never got caught either, and Marion Jones admitted to have cheated like 6 years later when her career was almost over..

I don’t think that Brock is masking anything, or using steroids at this time. Genetically, he is a freak. He has a giant bone structure, and with his genetics it is easy to see him being able to be the size that he is now without the use of steroids. That being said, he definately juiced during his time in the WWE, but that was years ago, and doesn’t have any bearing on his performance today.

o damn maybe your right but it seems unusual ….. doesnt he live in a secluded place with no tv….. what else would he do apart from exercise

i personally dont believe the WWE has tested him but i dont know for sure its just something i dont believe

I agree with Odamn. I wont condemn him without proof!
and I have nothing wrong with the statements he made. nOt the most intelligent statement, but nothing to be pissed about either!

i agree- he shouldn’t be the main event, it should be GSP Alves- and im not saying that he isn’t juicing it now, or did he in college, but from the WWE and that picture as ripped as he is, it shows he juiced it.. training for WWE and MMA is two different things, in MMA WAY MORE WORK how come he doesn’t look like the picture now ?? hmm

Thats not true, in MMA your workout isn’t %100 geared toward building muscle and cutting fat; it’s geared toward being a better fighter. All he had to worry about in his wrestling days was having a killer physique, that was the primary focus and having that ripped look is what he got paid for. Now he gets paid to win fights.

I don’t know whether he did or didn’t but he’s definatley not getting the benefit of the doubt on this issue, the guy just gets crucified on this one everytime. IMO if there was some radical medical breakthrough and a doctor could somehow tell if he had ever used HGH/roids in his entire life and he came out clean. People would STILL accuse him of steroid use.

holy shit!! jono you got the best ever post in this thread…right on the bat man…thanks a lot…everything you said is actually a reality check that is only a one year earlier..damn true!

I think that booking this fight as the main event is one of the biggest mistakes of Dana’s Career! He has never sold out so bad!

This is a historic event…and having Mir and Brock headline the show is just a slap in the face to all the hardcore fans that have been riding with the UFC and the sport from day 1. Yes its a title fight, but not a legit one! uFc Heavyweight title meant NOTHING anyway, but having these 2 fight for it at such a historic event makes a mockery of the UFC hw title and the hardcore fans that actually know ANYTHING about this sport!!

i would prefer seeing old farts like LIdell, and Randy on this card…then 2 over rated heavyweights! tim sylvia deserves to headline the historic UFC 100 card more then Mur and Brock do! Only thing worse would have been adding Kimbo to the main card!

Mir vs. Brock is about as legit of a title fight as GSP/SErra was…only difference at least the gSP/Serra fight featured 1 legit top fighter that has EARNED the right to be called uFC champion.

What the UFC should have done for this historic event is bump brock/Mir to UFC 101, and move either the Penn/florian or Anderson/Forrest fight at UFC 100. Pair 1 of those legit fights with the GSP/Alves fight and that would be solid headlining fights for the historic event!

I completely agree John…I wasn’t very happy to hear about this being the last fight on the card. I figured for sure it would have been GSP/Alves. This fight should never have made it onto this card. It should have been Mir/Lesnar on 98 as originally planned and then they could have had Evans/Rampage for 100. I know Mir got “injured” then he said he would have been fine to fight at 98…nice recovery Frank…lol. That would have made 100 a damn sick card. The UFC heavyweight title is the weakest title in the UFC by far and it should not be headlining the biggest event in UFC history to date…plain and simple.

double agreed~

Hey don’t pick on CPAs or you’ll eat a flying knuckle sandwhich…

Favorite Joe Rogan/Mike Goldberg exchange(besides the goat’s vagina one) – (speaking of Chuck Liddell btw, who is an accountant… that’s how this ties into the comment):

“It’s like a flying knuckle sandwich.” -Rogan
“And many men have eaten it.” - Goldy

My favorite Goldy comment was recently when a canadian heavyweight, Tim Hague, beat favorite Pat Barry. After the fight, Hague talked about drinking some beers and Goldy said something like….canadian wanting to drink beers, let me put on my surprise face….that’s funny!

Sorry, I’m just not into making zealous accusations without any proof; for me “I don’t know” is the most correct answer; cause I don’t.

My point was Arnold did steroids yet you compared the two!

I know what you’re saying OD, and normally I’d agree with you. I work in a gym and I would bet my house he did steroids. Look at his WWE pictures. That is not natural dude, he looks bigger than the guys in the bodybuilding competitions where they test for juice.

Add to that the fact that when interviewed a year or so ago he is directly asked by the interviewer “have you ever taken steroids” he refuses to answer the question directly and instead replies “I have never failed a drug test”. That is not the response of a guy who’s never taken steroids. It was an ESPN E60 interview if you haven’t seen it.

Yea you could be right; like I said, I’m not ruling it out and saying he got that way naturally; kind of takes a little bit away from the man if thats the reason he’s able to come in to a fight with that size/speed and win at a top level. I’m just trying to avoid diminishing the quality of his performances in the sport until it’s clear he’s actually cheating/cheated.

I agree. The evidence suggests it but it’s not confirmed. The guy is naturally athletic and big and quick, I don’t doubt that. I also don’t think he is taking anything now. Steroids do give you a little bit of permanent size but not much. The guy is naturally huge and is winning now on his natural gifts IMO.

Good to know JJ, I might have to hit you up sometime for some advice on getting cut, seems like I can build muscle no prob, but getting the excess weight off to look cut up has always been a struggle.

I agree completely Lesnar is winning by virtue of his natural physical gifts, but one of those gifts is certainly not a high IQ. So far, Lesnar has been good for the sport and has re-injected interest in the UFC HWT division, which has been lackluster for a few years. As a fighter, my chief concern as Lesnar fights the top guys is how he will do with the thinking aspect of MMA, especially vs opponents vastly more experienced. This fight vs Mir should reveal quite a bit.

jackson dont lie to us, you work in the all female pilates/yoga gym cleaning yoga mats :)

Haha, I wish. Probably get laid more if I did.

“the problem people have with recognizing the physical attributes that differ groups of people”
Actually there are numerous scientific studies on this very subject google - Professor J. Philippe Rushton thesis on Race, Evolution, and Behavior. --
 And further reading - Why Race Matters: Race Differences and What They Mean by Michael Levin -

As far as Lesnar – he is at the extreme end of the bell curve for any race and it was his genetics that put him there. He has furthered those genetic traits with training, nutrition and supplements – wether any of them were illegal is up for debate, but the foundation is genetic and as he is correct in stating his physical attributes are more in line with the average for Blacks than the average for his own race. His statement is not Politically Correct or eloquently worded but I don’t think its “stupid”.

Your right guys it’s all about genes/metabolism evolution vs hostile environments!

PanicZoo, amazing response!

well he make have the physique but he is prolly hung like a tic tac..

People who hate will find a reason regardless. And misuse of science isn’t reason to ignore it. I saw one interesting study where they were looking at how African Americans are more muscular than native Africans. It was due to slective breeding during the slave trade. Strong slaves fetched the most money and so it was economically driven. Horrible thought, but it’s a small scale example of things that can have an impact on the physical traits of certain races. Few people would argue that the average Asian is shorter than the average Caucasion. And that’s okay to say, but if you say Black people can run faster than white people on average, people get pissed. It’s silly. That’s all I’m saying. I don’t care if my race is inferior or superiior in any category because I plan to put myself in the top 5% of humans through my lifestyle. I definitely agree about cultural differences being far more influential than genetic factors. Ultimately, I’m a fan of knowing the truth whether it hurts or not. If your race sucks at driving, has absentee fathers, whatever, who cares b/c you don’t have to fit into any statistic.

There’s a lot of people on here writing off Brock b/c of what he said. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Brock IMO, but that one comment isn’t. We’re being conditioned to get outraged about stuff that isn’t even offensive and may even simply be true.

Oh and Brzilians seem to be beautiful in General. However, when you add Wandy into the equation, he personally drops their average to moderately attractive. Kidding.

Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with who’s saying it. If one race has been historically subjugated by another, they tend to get a little bristly when someone from the dominant race makes sweeping generalizations about them, especiaslly if said generalization is a negative one.

That’s why even though the movie “White Men Can’t Jump” kind of pissed me off, a sequel entitled “Black Men Can’t Read” probably won’t be hitting theaters anytime soon.

Always an interesting discussion. I just think we’ve gone to far with the PC stuff. How can you fix an issue if you’re afraid to even look at. I have a black friend who teases me about white stereotypes and I tease him vice versa. I love the guy. It seems healthier to me to admit our differences and like each other anyway than to pretend we’re the exactly the same.

Speaking of racial stuff, it was weird to me how Bisping got all pissy about one of the guys commenting about his lilly white legs, lol. Is that an English sensitivity?

LOL!

lol

Does that mean that John Holmes was also built like a black guy? haha

I know they weren’t steroids… I was just being a smartass and pointing out he had in fact been arrested for them.

Little buddy? How do you know I’M not on steroids? Hmmmm?

AND BTW, HGH in pill form might do next to nothing for a person. Google it; look up HGH, the injectable is the only way you’re going to see the kind of results we’re talkin about with this guy.

And no, it doesn’t make sense to stack HGH in pill form with an HGH injectable. Don’t even go there.

Cause JJ, you’re my little buddy ;)

HGH doesn’t come in a pill form, unless you are talking about gh enhancing supplements, which for the most part don’t work.

Talking about an “HGH releaser” basically; but you’re right, it’s not HGH in pill form.

Nah Brock’s the future; he’s going to win on size and strength alone, assuming he comes in with some decent striking he’s going to start dominating; who the hell can take one of those bombs to the dome after he learns how to box and keep fighting?

I know, does that make at least slightly smarter than a sledgehammer?

For the record, I did post a disclaimer.