Mirko Cro Cop win over Mustafa Al Turk at UFC 99 will stand

All i know is that I hope for some decent mma news this week. Lately the mma news has been CRAP! NOt a Knock on Mania, if there is NO news to report, there is NO NEWS TO REPORT…cant start fabricating stories.

Im craving for some decent mma news…an interview, a few video’s, a couple of fight announcements.

I had it up to hear with all the crap that follows every single UFC ppv. We spend WEEKS debating judges decisions, or eye pokes, greasing…Im am just sick of all that CRAP!!!

Someone NEEDS to uncover a juicy fight announcement and REPORT IT!

LEGIT QUESTION: Do you really get 5 minutes to recover from an eye poke? According to Inside MMA, the answer is NO. You only get 5 minutes to recover from a low blow.

Does anyone else know anything on this topic? I always just asumed that an eye poke gets you up to 5 minutes as well, but it was a topic on an episode of Inside MMA like 6 months ago and they cleared it up.

And John, hopefully Tito opens his mouth and says something stupid. That’s always good for 200 comments.

true that VM!

TO answer your question, I think that the answer is yes!
tHales was given up to 5 minutes for knees to a grounded opponents face (thats not a low blow)….im sure if you get blasted in the back of the head hard enough n your equilibrium is all messed up….I assume you would get up to 5 minutes to recover!

I was under the assumption that you get up to 5 minutes for ALL ILLEGAL blows….Check out my response to our Salvia discussion we had yesterday….Its an old thread so feel free to post a response under here!

QUESTION: what do u guys think? Should mma judges have to face the media after each event?

I SAY YES!!!!! These clowns are getting paid to judge fights! they need to atone for doing the crappy job that they do on almost every singe card!

They F up, at least 1 decision on every event!

i say yess as well!!

i felt wand won his fight as well as davis..both of those calls seemed suspect..

the uno fight was sooo close i felt it could have gone either way..might of been a draw??

and what was up with kongo losing his decision?? no way kongo lost that fight!!.[just kidding~]

but yeah i felt at least two fights were scored by the judges with improper conclusions..

IMo, Hardy won, wandy won, and Uno should have won!

Uno/fisher fight: Round 1 went to spencer, but I dont know what anyone could have saw to give rounds 2 and 3 to Spencer. Imo Uno won that fight 29-28. I dont even think Fisher wanted to be in there by the 3rd round…THere is no doubt in my mind, that had there been 1 more round….Uno would have destroyed Spencer! All I know is Uno better not get cut after that loss.I want to see him matched up against a high level grappler:

Nate Diaz vs. Uno would be Fantastic!

I dont even remember anything that Davis did…but I wont be forgetting that Knee Hardy delivered, or those Brutal elbows he sent crashing into Marcus’s face….I think Hardy won that fight on Damage!

Wandy/rich fight was really close and it could have gone either way so I wont bitch about that decision….it was a close fight that I think Wandy should have won by aggression and Octagon control….He basically walked Rich franklin down the entire fight. Few times Rich got a takedown, Wandy got right back up without suffering any damage. and striking damage was pretty much even, so I would give a slight edge to Wandy!

I’ve only seen the fight between Wand and Rich the one time, it was pretty damn close; I don’t know who I’d give it to. I think it could’ve gone either way and really wasn’t too upset with the decision. Rogan had said the rumor was going into the fight that Wand came in and had to cut 12 lbs the day before the fight; I have never seen him gassed in his entire carreer, that was the first time I’ve ever seen him look so flat out there.

I would have to say the weight cut definatley had a lot to do with his sluggishness. That being said, I am definatley looking forward to seeing Wandi fight at 185; I’m hoping he can learn to cut the weight better and come in with good Cardio, IMO had he not gassed he would’ve KO’d Rich with relative ease in the 2nd rd.

It was a great brawl though, good action and can’t knock either guy, they both left it all in the cage. I was definatley pulling for Wandi, really liked what I saw from him in Rd 1 with the TD and some top control; switched things up a little bit and I was happy to see that. He also didn’t bum rush Rich, was looking to pick his shots early on and fight a little more strategically; imo that is definatley an improvement and although it didn’t go his way, he’s hopefully headed in the right direction with his weight/training. Rich Franklin did not deserve the boos from the crowd; was unfortunate but great to see the love that Wandi gets from the crowd; thats what he seems to care about most and I’m glad the fans stand by him win or lose. As always, I’m still a fan and can’t wait to see his next fight!

WAR WANDERLEI!

I will co-sign that post Odamn!

I knew wanderlei was in trouble when they showed the clips of him hitting the mits back stage before they were introduced….then when I saw Wandy make his entrance…I knew that the weight cut didnt go good…He looked TIred, drained and out of it, while making his entrance…there was no fire in his eyes…he simply looked DRained!

Hopefully he gets a hold of an American wretsler that can teach him to properly cut the weight. After seeing him face Rich, there is no question in my mind that if he can properly cut down to 185lbs…he will be a FORCE at middleweight!

and with wandy tired as hell rich still could not dominate, if wandy had more gas he would have beat rich no problem.

I disagree John, I thought wand looked focussed and wasn’t going to waste one ounce of energy on an entrance (Fedor)

I don’t have the energy to debate the Rich vs Wandy fight again, but it was close enough that you can’t be too pissed. I personally would like to see more draws in MMA. Maybe they should have to win by three points.

What happened to Turk is far worse than a bad decision IMO. He may have lost anyway, but he should have been able to throw his looping bombs until he lost legitimately. I would love to see instant replay for stuff like this. It’s a new sport so it would be nice if we didn’t adopt the flaws of other combat sports.

LOL “Looping Bombs”. They were bombs alright, they’d just had all the explosive taken out of them.

attakdog,

I’m not arguing their retardedness. Quite the opposite. I’m just saying he should have had his right to throw them until he lost in legit fashion.

I wasn’t picking a fight with ya chief, your description just made me chuckle!

I always sound more dickish or defensive than I intend with my posts. I wish I could indicate the tone with which I’m delivering my messages. Is that what those little faces are for? I don’t think I could put little yellow faces without feeling a touch gay so maybe I’ll start putting in parenthesis things like “lighthearted” or “indifferent”

1) Asking judges to face the media is a slippery slope. Things become a popularity contest and judges lean towards public opinion when they have to answer to moronic fans after the fight.

2) Rich should not be criticized for how he fought; he should be commended! This coming from a Wanderlei fan! He didn’t stand in the pocket and trade with Wand because that would be suicide. The drunks should be thankful he decided to stand at all! He could have taken Wand down anytime and won the fight in a boring fashion.

3) When are we going to find out a main event for 103! That would give us dorks something to talk about!

Just watched the fight again, and damn I didn’t realize just how good it was till I saw it a 2nd time; that was one entertaining brawl right there. Wand did look a little flat but not as bad as I had thought initially; I give rd 1 to Wand, the TD and top control were key imo; and Rich did not get a TD on Wand, Wandi dropped back for a guillotine and missed giving Rich top control. IMO that shouldn’t have counted as a TD but who knows how the judges scored it. As far as exchanges in rd 1, there were a few, and Rich landed a couple extra shots but nothing really noteworthy.

Rd 2 was close but I had to give it to Rich; he did drop Wand with a jab that Wandi basically just ran right into, but it was a knock down none the less. The rest of the round was close but Wandi had a couple slips that probably looked bad in the eyes of the judges; because of the slips and Rich landing more often I had to give him rd 2.

Rd 3 also close and imo that one was the tie breaker. It was really anybody’s round; Rich started off strong and then about half way through the rd Wandi ended strong. That one I couldn’t decide who to give it to; but it was a great back n forth fight overall. In the end I have no problems with the Judges giving it to Rich; he stayed busy, he stayed out of the pocket and kept moving and thats how you have to fight Wandi.

 I am definatley saddened to see that Silva is in such a bad spot carreer wise; but from what Dana said it doesn’t sound like they’re talking about him retiring or anything. In fact, I feel much better after the press conference when Dana basically said the UFC will always have a place for Wanderlei wether he’s fighting or not. He seemed calmer, more collected and more focused; he took the TD when it came, worked some GnP and was more strategic in his approach to the fight. All in all, I’m not dissapointed at all; in fact looking forward to his first fight at 185 lbs. I still think Wand has a future there if he can just lock up a win this next time out.

Good post OD. We were so close to going six for six, eh? JJ™ picks = GOLD. ;-)

i never complained nabout rich getting the win, its was close and i had him winning it barely, i just think silva looked tired after the first round and rich should have been able to do more, i saw a tired wand almost win is how i saw it i will have to watch it again though.

LMAO, your comparisons are great, the only hole in your argument is the fact that Serra, Carwin and Fedor all have skill. Al Turk has none whatsoever, he’s a complete can! he couldn’t KO CC if he had a thousand rounds. His laughable big overhand punches were the slowest and most cumbersome I’ve ever seen thrown in the octagon!

True :D But I just hate unfairness really, un unfair win to me is not a win – Cro Cop says he didn’t feel it (the eye poke), I’m not so sure, but any fighter with heart would not feel satisfied with that “win”. I would give a rematch ASAP to lay it to bed – but that probably won’t happen now. Unfortunately due to the limited number of fights available in the careers of these guys they can’t be messing around with these cans when they have bigger fish to fry. I just wish they’d get past them with convincing victories rather than dubious decisions!!