Cain Velasquez talks UFC 99 and his future in the heavyweight division (Exclusive)
by Brian Oswald on Jun 16, 2009 8:38 PM EDT
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The amount of build-up bestowed upon Cain Velasquez leading up to UFC 99 bordered on "enough already." But when it was learned that Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic refused to replace Heath Herring against Velasquez, it spoke volumes about a reputation that has preceded Cain ever since he signed with the UFC.
As overhyped as some thought Velasquez was, the pounding he put on Cheick Kongo was a tipping point for him becoming a credible name among UFC fans. Credit fellow Mexican-American fighter Miguel Torres for declaring it would be Cain’s coming-out party.
Cheick Kongo is no certainly no slouch. He was considered top five in the heavyweight division. Minus a few devastating head shots dished out by Kongo, Velasquez grounded him for three full rounds.
No one will claim Cain is perfect -- including himself. In our post fight interview with the talented up-and-comer, we asked him why he was disappointed with his most recent performance.
"I was disappointed with my stand-up game. I need to improve upon that aspect. I went after Kongo, which wasn’t part of the game plan. I will go back and work on my footwork and head movement. I am still new in my career and still need to gain some experience.
Overall I am satisfied. I got the win. I just know that I am not where I need to be. I know I can get a lot better and will get a lot better. It was an average performance. I didn’t stick to my game plan so I made the fight a lot harder than it had to be."
Two components of his game that did not disappoint were his wrestling and cardio. Velazquez used his collegiate mat experience to take away Kongo’s advantage in the stand-up game while his cardio allowed him to grind out a decision win fought mostly on the ground.
"It was fun to finally get to showcase my wrestling abilities in a fight. Kongo is known for not having good takedown defense so that was part of the game plan. We knew the fight would be won there. Getting those big body slams in was fun. Kongo is big but when you have been training to do that for years, it is actually a lot easier then it looks.
As far as my cardio, I knew that it would be there. It allowed me to push the pace throughout the fight."
Everyone who watched the fight couldn’t help but notice the shots that Kongo used to momentarily stun Velasquez with. Fortunately for Cain, he recovered quickly enough to use that wrestling to get the fight where he needed it to be.
"I was never worried about being knocked out but yeah, the shots he landed stunned me. I was able to snap out of it though and do my job."
In his previous interview with MMAmania.com, Cain stated he would love to pull off an armbar in the Octagon while adding that a rear naked choke would be less likely given his style. But that’s exactly what he put himself in a position to do during the fight until Kongo escaped.
"I wanted to finish the fight with a submission but I couldn’t set it up exactly like I needed to. I couldn’t get my hooks all the way in. He was able to scramble and roll out."
While Velasquez spent most of the fight in Kongo’s guard, grounding and pounding on the powerless kickboxer, some saw his inability to finish the fight as a weak spot.
"I was able to beat and bloody him but Kongo is as tough as they come. Kongo has never been manhandled like that in a fight before. I do need to find more explosiveness and power for my ground and pound. It will come with experience like everything else. Kongo earned my respect though. He took that fight on less then a month’s notice."
People are already speculating on Cain's next opponent after passing the biggest hurdle in his young mixed martial arts career. One such foe could be fellow undefeated heavyweight Shane Carwin.
For Velasquez, he is less concerned about his next opponent and more focused on improving his own game.
"It doesn’t really matter to me who I face next. Kongo is one of the best out there. I knew after this fight my opponents would just keep getting tougher. I’m ready to climb the heavyweight ladder one fight at a time. I will let the UFC decide who they want me to fight next. I will keep training and improve on the areas that need improvement. I will be ready for when that next fight comes."
While it may be prudent for Zuffa to protect both Carwin and Velasquez by giving them different opponents, it is unlikely they can do that for much longer. Both guys are now in the top six in the division while the other four are already booked for fights this summer.
Unless the UFC is willing to feed them lower ranked opponents while UFC 100 and 102 play out, a Cain Velasquez vs. Shane Carwin fight may be coming to a pay-per-view near you later this year.
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Cain should take on Dos Santos or the winner of Couture/Nog next. Or the loser of Lesnar/Mir.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 16, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dos santos cain would be a good matchup for cain
by JG on Jun 16, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dos Santos,Carwin or Miuur(b/c he,will lose the fake belt in july) are good match up.
I doubt Cain’s be ready for a Nog,Randy or Lesnar yet….he sure won’t be able to be a blanket against any of those 3 though!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 16, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d take Cain over Nog or Randy right now.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 16, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy,can take a punch and he won’t be losing a wrestling match with Cain.
Nog,could get knock or taking down but he should be,able to catch Cain with a sub…!
You put too much faith in your "Blanket"Velasquez,JJ!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 16, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is, I agree with JJ, unfortunately. But I’m biased toward Randy; I invariably want him to win.
by Johnny Farnham on Jun 16, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cain over Nogueira anytime dude. I ain’t jumpin’ in any bandwagon[I predicted that he’d crush Kongo], but I just don’t see Big-Nog’s jitz negating Cain’s GNP. but of course, cain should still work more on his GNP power and submission defense for the really good BJJ artists…
by Syd[a.k.a."the Negation"] on Jun 16, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alpha, keep in mind Nog hasn’t subbed anybody but Sylvia since ’06… and that was Zuluzinho! He is not even close to the fighter he used to be, and Cain has probably learned some sub defence at AKA.
As for Methuselah… he’s 79 years old, and he’s not a true HW. I simply cannot, in good conscience, pick him over a big, talented young buck like Cain. Every fight for Randy from here on in will be a deterioration from his last, while Cain will only get better.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 16, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cain would win over Randy in the standup and be good enough to defend Randy’s takedown attempts and maybe get one of his own, so yea i’d think Cain would win..
I don’t know about Nogueira i’ll have to see his next fight to judge him, but Cain would probably be the favorite, Nog is getting old and injuries don’t heal as fast!
I am not a fan Cain and i didn’t like his performance against Kongo, I just wanted Kongo to knock him out, just extremely frustrating to watch him take him down over and over again without really doing anything..
by RoB on Jun 16, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a fan of the way Cain fought last weekend either… but let’s keep a few things in mind:
1) He has looked exciting in his past fights.
2) He tried to bang with Kongo and almost got wrecked… then wisely changed his strategy.
3) He is still very green… and beating a veteran like Kongo after only five fights is quite a feather in his cap.
4) He clearly wasn’t satisfied with his performance and acknowledged that… as opposed to a guy like Huggy who clings to a fighter for 15 minutes, making NO attempt to do damage, and then brags about how exciting he is.
5) As douchey as his tattoo is, the interviews I’ve seen with him showed me that he’s actually a pretty intelligent and respectful dude.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 16, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C’mon JJ!
Camarillo’s said that Cain is already have good Jits and defence and he still didn’t finish a guy with zero defence.To me that says a lot about his supposedly jits.
To say that Cain,can roll with Nog in jits?That,can be debatable.But I doubt Cain be world jits champion,so I wont debate with you on this.
I know you don’t,like Captain Age…but if he was able to sustain Gonzaga’s striking(which is pretty similar of the striking of Blanket btw),well he should be,capable to hold his own against Blanket awesome striking & pussy GnP too.Plus Captain Age is almost at the same weight than Cain,so I don’t see how the young buck,can dominate the old dog!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 16, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
has kongo ever been subed before……..cuz for havin such bad “sub defence” i dont seem to remember him ever getting submitted
by JG on Jun 16, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alpha, what do you expect Camarillo to say about his guy in the pre-fight hype show? “My fighter sucks at jiu-jitsu”? Of course he’s gonna say that Cain is good at all aspects of MMA!
And I’m not saying his jitz is anywhere comparable to a master like Nog’s… I’m saying it doesn’t have to be to beat Nog.
And now Randy is that much older and considerably smaller than the Randy that fought Gonzaga… I think he’d get overwhelmed.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 16, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are seeing a changing of the guard in the HWT division, and it is both badly needed and refreshing. Like boxing, the HWT champ should be THE GUY casual fans know by name and face recognition, but the past few years UFC-wise anyway, the reigning champs have failed to fire up interest in the division. The newer talent….Cain, Carwin, Lesnar….have re-invigorated interest in the division. With their immergance, there are now at least several intriguing possibilities for fights, and contenders with room for upside, rather than guys fading fast due to age or too many hard miles. It is good for the division and the sport if this group of newer talent continue to prove they are legit.
by CL on Jun 16, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he ever face a BJJ expert?Assuerio Silva?King Can al Turk?
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 16, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kongo is too strong to be subbed just like that and he has good defense, he escaped perfectly from an armbar that C.Wellisch basically had locked in…
Cain is much faster than Randy is, and he is a great wrestler himself so he knows what to expect from Randy, Gonzaga didn’t and he’s too slow.. people are underestimating Kongo, that guys a beast and he won’t be finished just like that, just look at the guys head!
Kongo is a better striker than Gonzaga is too btw.
by RoB on Jun 16, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well JJ,i’m gonna have to see first what Randy and Nog’s look like at the fight before agreeing with you on this.
Cain really didn’t impress me at all last weekend!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 16, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sold on him against the really big HW wrestlers, Alpha. I just think he’d match up pretty well with most other guys. A really good HW striker with takedown defence would also be bad for him… but I’m not seeing too many guys like that in the UFC.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 16, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True!And i’m not saying that he’s a complete waste…he will be someone very dangerous in the future.But he still have a long journey ahead before I get in his wagon!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 17, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if this was written anywhere up there but Cain has a blue belt world title in BJJ. So he’s good but not Nog good. JJ- Nog hasn’t subbed anyone since 06 because he fought 1. Werdum – a better grappler who showed it when he almost took his back; so solution is to outbox him, 2. Barnett- another skilled grappler which he decided to clown standing after they robbed him in the 1st fight, 3. Herring – again clown standing even though he almost had a tight Neck crank/possible RNC. His matwork is there, he just always fights smart.
by NameNotRequired on Jun 17, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is Lesner’s reaction to all the shit talk! I’m not yet a fan, but you can’t deny his raw talent/ability!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/ufc/2484598/Brock-Nobody-is-taking-my-belt.html
by kevin on Jun 17, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Brock Lesnar had to grab the fence to keep Randy from taking him down; then Cain isn’t stopping Randy from taking him down. Couture’s made a carreer out of making young, world class fighters look like crap. See Tito Ortiz, Gonzaga, Vitor Belfort, Pedro Rizzo etc.. for examples. Cain vs Randy, I’d pick Randy to win that fight 9/10 times.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 17, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice link, Kevin.
Hahaha, the first guy’s comment at the bottom of the page reads:
“If you caught this guy in your bed with your wife…you’d tuck him in LOL.”
That’s pretty funny.
by Johnny Farnham on Jun 17, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only that were so, O damn. I would really hope so. I just can’t see Couture winning it though. I agree with everything you say except that somehow, I reckon Cain would still take it, probably with strikes. But it would be an awesome match-up because Randy is such a good wrestler and won’t suffer the same fate as Kongo.
by Johnny Farnham on Jun 17, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, IMO, Randy is probably the best wrestler in MMA aside from GSP. Cain’s striking isn’t anything to write home about, not that he’s got horrible stand up, but the two times he rushed in on Kongo, Kongo made him look stupid for it. Not that I think Randy is going to KO him or anything, but Randy’s good enough to survive in the striking and the second he gets into that greco clinch, it’s time to visit the Canvas.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 17, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks kev!
O damn…That’s what I believe too!(both post).
I hope that you saw the kimbo’s romos b/c,they are gone now..take a look at the swick-a-romos b/c I,will change them today…I can’t keep that mofo under my name for too long!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 17, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree. I have always held that Randy is the best wrestler in the UFC. Everything you say makes sense. I thought the same thing. I think it might be that I fear Couture losing so much that I start to waver in favor of my fears. Hehe.
by Johnny Farnham on Jun 17, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i need to see how Cain does against another top wrestler before I start anointing him as the new dominant force on the block!
GOod interview Brian but I wish you would stick to the classic interview format!
by JOhn G on Jun 17, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sup Alpha, yea I saw those Kimbo Romo’s, pretty funny sh!t with the chest hair. I tried clickin on your name but I get an error, I’m guessing that site is undergoing maintenance or somethin.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 17, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It works now!I’ll put the Kelly’s one later.
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 17, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rumor Alert***
I am already hearing rumors that Cain vs. Carwin will be the co-main event at UFC 104!
Machida vs. Shogun and Cain vs. Carwin already makes for an amazing event!
by JOhn G on Jun 17, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! I thought Carwin would get the next shot at the title with Kongo losing. Does this mean no title fight for ten months after 100? It better not.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 17, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LIke I said, I didnt hear anything substantial, but the site I read it on, has been really credible in the past…but it was posted as just a rumor
by JOhn G on Jun 17, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Luiz Cain? Any word on him? Maybe he could face Franklin?
I would have said Shogun should face Franklin before hearing about this rumor. That would have been a really interesting fight.
by Johnny Farnham on Jun 17, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ,me and O damn give you a reply in the Shammy thread!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 17, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no word yet on Banha Cane! The way the UFC was talking about franklin being in title contention territory after beating wanderlei…I think a fight with Cane is below Franklin at this moment. Cane is just a too Dangerous, no name opponent…Its too tough of a fight for Rich, with very little to gain!
IMO, I expect to see Forrest vs. Franklin after silva thrashes Forrest in Philly!
If not Forrest, then Rich will get the winner of Jardine/Silva fight!
by JOhn G on Jun 17, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome. Those prospective match-ups you mention would all be great. Forrest/Franklin especially.
by Johnny Farnham on Jun 17, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be a good fight…..but i hate the fact that joe rogan was trashing the way cain fought cheik, mean while when brock lesner fought heath herring pretty much the same way sept more holding they said it was "such a good game plan " and “awesome”
by JG on Jun 16, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the difference is that herring had to get his eye socket put back together, that was 10 months ago and we STILL havent seen that motherfucker back…
brock did more damage in 15 seconds than cain did in 15 minutes…against a guy with a WAY better fighter resume than kongo…
oh and then brock just went on and beat the greatest ufc champion of all time..by tko
by HellaHectic on Jun 16, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, Randy is the greatest UFC champion of all time.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 17, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Herring would have been a tougher fight than Kongo, I said that before the fight and I’ll say it again, on the ground Herring would’ve at least had some crafty escape/reversal attempts. Cain had nothing to worry about from Kongo off his back.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 17, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you’ve only been training MMA for a little while (Lesnar) it’s a good strategy so you don’t get caught in something.
When you’re supposedly the greatest thing since sliced bread (Cain) and you’re supposed to be good at jitz and you’re supposed to be savage…not being able to finish a fight while TRYING to finish a fight is certainly a con.
There’s a difference. You’re comparing apples to oranges.
by Kevin @ This is Broken Blog on Jun 16, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ei Kevin, have you changed your name too?!?
by Syd[a.k.a."the Negation"] on Jun 16, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He still provided a good fight. I like that he’s hard on himself too, so he should get better and better. Besides, the hype machine isn’t his creation.
Okay, so he’s not perfect. Whoop-de-doo! He won, he dominated, he proved he can take some heavy shots, and he gave a good fight.
by Johnny Farnham on Jun 16, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn’t so much that Cain fought a good or bad fight as it was that Kongo fought the absolute dumbest fight I’ve seen since Andy Wang refused to take him down. Kongo has to know that he has no ground game and that Cain is an excellent wreslter. In spite of this knowledge that is apparent to everyone on the planet, Kongo clocked Cain repeatedly, then jumped into a clinch to get manhandled for the next 4:30 of each round.
by PW on Jun 16, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree. I was almost yelling at the screen for Kongo to keep it standing. It was indeed frustrating. And of course, Kongo’s tactics grossly hindered his chances of winning because every time they were striking he clocked Cain upside the head.
But Cain still did his job — he won and dominated and proved he can take a good punch. I’m not a huge fan of Cain but he’s good and he’ll get better.
by Johnny Farnham on Jun 16, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just hope they spread out the div by not matching him against Carwin. This way the div can be deep for at least the next yr. give him some scrub in the meantime after Carwin faces Lesnar/Mir, then Cain.
by DirtbagHtr on Jun 16, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but a Carwin/Velasquez match would be pretty interesting though.
by ducknow on Jun 16, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
carwin by devistation judging by cains performances hes going to get wrecked by stronger guys with heavy hands. lesnar, carwin and gonzaga fit the bill but cain has a good shot at taking out gonzaga
by Jared on Jun 16, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s not cain’s fault dana and joe hype the crap out of him.
by natedog77 on Jun 16, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funk Cain and his Brown Pride Tat. I can’t wait to see him get KTFO. ; )
by mike on Jun 16, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dont worry he will if he fights dos santos.
by day1er on Jun 16, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought mexicans where redskins..
by johan-lofgren on Jun 17, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re confusing Mexicans with Native Indians. One will build you a deck for a dollar an hour… the other will fill it with empties and say it’s your fault.
by Jeremyjackson on Jun 17, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
had kongo had the sense to keep standing with cain, there would have been a different outcome, cuz he was rocking him in the stand up..but yes cain most def out wrestled him and banged on the kongo bongo all night..but alas, no finish..he is young and will no doubt improve and become quite a fighter..
by sarah on Jun 16, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your right sarah…I also like the"kongo bongo"!
by Alpha Male 360 on Jun 17, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Cheick Kongo is no certainly no slouch.”
uhhh… yeah. you get it.
by Zach on Jun 16, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kongo is crap and cain didn’t even look that good against him. kongo lost to hearing for fucksake. i’m glad they are doing an ultimate fighter for heavyweights, but hopefully there’s some better talent than kimbo. cro cop is a flaby joke and stevenson will lose…AGAIN. is karo still suspended?
by spitforce on Jun 16, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cain showed he sucked his last fight his standup blows and he couldnt finish a fighter who gave him plenty of chances to do so. Hes overrated as has been said by few people who dont buy into the UFC hype machine for good reason. Carwin really is about the same as Cain except he has retarded power in his hands if catches Cain like Kongo did it will be a 1 minute fight.
by Khaos_Warrior on Jun 16, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s the Clay Guida of the HW division.
If Kongo can build some leg muscles and learn some techniques to avoid TDs, he really has the potential to kick A. His striking is… striking.
by ftg314 on Jun 16, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brad mukhang pinansin ka ni Kevin ha? Hehehe
by Syd Karlo Abrajano on Jun 16, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wasn’t too impressed with cain to be honest. i dont care what he says about not being able to go for the finish, he had several chances to take kongo’s back or go for an arm but simply didnt capitalize on it. i mean kongo has NO ground game whatsoever. he turtled up and gave cain his back on numerous occasions. kongo’s only chance to win was on the feet and whenever the fight was there, he had cain rocked. that being said, i just dont see any indication so far that cain will be able to hang with the more powerful strikers in the division. in fact i think cain could probably make 205 if he wanted to, the guys only 6’1" and 240lbs, and not exactly a shredded 240 either. hes just not going to be able to handle bigger guys like carwin and lesnar who will either KTFO cain or straight up out-wrestle him. and hes gonna have a hard time with elite-level grapplers like couture, noguiera, and mir. regardless, at this point, cain is probably about to step up to the next level of competition in the HW division. look for him to finally be exposed.
by matmar87 on Jun 16, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Go back and watch Lesnar vs Couture. Randy did well in the clinch and his wrestling was very good. He weighed 220 and was handling Lesnar. Yes, Lesnar has power but his stand up is nowhere close to Kongo`s. In that fight Lesnar was pretty tired going into the 2nd. Lesnar`s footwork is nothing special, he has power and wrestling. He blasted Randy and went for the kill.
Lesnar telegraphs his punches as does Carwin. Cain will close the distance, wrestle either guy and gas them out because we know his cardio isn`t suspect. Yeah, he`s giving up plenty of weight but he`s competed against heavier guys his whole life.
Watch Carwin vs Gonzaga. Carwin got rocked and then taken down. His footwork and head movement are not that good. Of course if you take a punch from him it`s likely to end in a KO. Again, Kongo has far superior stand up! So, when you say that Carwin or Lesnar will smash Cain don`t assume that the punches will be coming with the precision and striking ability as Kongo.
Remember, Carwin is a D2 wrestler, any college wrestler knows that there is a huge difference between D1 and D2. Lesnar, a D1 phenom! Cain a 2 time all American whom wrestled heavier guys on a regular basis. His cardio, heart, and desire to win is off the charts. Do not count him out against anyone in the division especially Lesnar or Carwin.
by Undoongu on Jun 17, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i actually just watched both couture vs lesnar and carwin vs gonzaga on the new unleashed the other nite. and at no point in the couture/lesnar fight did randy trully have brock in trouble, grappling-wise, even though many would probably consider him the better grappler. and look what happened to carwin. the dude got rocked, got his nose broken, got taken down and smothered by a bjj black belt, only to survive, find a way to his feet and knock out a huge man with one of the weakest looking punches i’ve ever seen. my point is we all know cains true bread and butter is his wrestling, but i don’t see it being enough against massive guys like lesnar and carwin. and cain might have some hands, i’m just not sure if he has the chin to go with it. kongo’s shots had cain dazed but shots like that are nothing compared to the power that lesnar and carwin are packing. they might not be as technically sound as kongo, but if they land, cain’s going to sleep.
by matmar87 on Jun 17, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every one knew this fight was fixed. Any fighter in their right mind would avoid clinching with a guy like Cain when he took Kongo down multiple times without any resistance. Throw some strikes, move out, rinse and repeat and Kongo would’ve won the fight but he simply couldn’t figure it out to not clinch and stay in the clinch with Cain until he was taken down again and again.
by AfricanBeast on Jun 17, 2009 2:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It´s like Brock Lesnar having a tattoo saying white power.. I think Cain loose a lot of fans just because of the tattoo..
by johan-lofgren on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about “spent most of the fight in Kongo’s guard?” He never spent more than a couple seconds there.
by Fartmouth on Jun 17, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like me, can’t stand cain I hope he gets his ass fucked soon because of that tattoo. I don’t mind when people have pride in who they are, I pride myself on being Irish but it would be politically incorrect to have a white pride or brown pride tattoo. He must of got that when he was a 15 year old with tons of angst and hatred.
by Stab to the Liver on Jun 17, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And ‘Brown Pride’ isn’t racist, you retards. The only reason ‘White Pride’ is is because it got co-opted by skinheads.
by Fartmouth on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ethnocentricity does not lean toward racism? Yeah, we’re the retards.
by Big Daddio on Jun 18, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cain “The Dry Humper” Velazquez. Only way he will win fights is by riding someone on the ground for 3 rounds. Brock, Shane Carwin, Couture, Mir, would all destroy this guy. I can’t stand this thug either.
by Big Daddio on Jun 17, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Cain is sure catching alot of grief from you guys. I ask myself why? Because a tattoo that says “brown pride”? If he had a confederate flag on his back would he get grief too? How about Sakara and his Rome Italy tattoo? Banha Cane and his Brazil Tattoo? Im not a fan of Cain myself and i am 100% Mexican. But why all the hate towards him? He seems very humble and not full of himself, He definitly isn’t the one hyping his own self up. Hes isn’t on Tv saying he is the best and the future champ. He is the first one to say that he stand up and all around game needs improvement. He didn’t seem to proud of dry humping Kongo the whole fight. Despite being rocked in the begining of each round he still came out swinging. It’s certainly not his fault that Kongo would clinch with him he just had to do what was needed to survive and win the fight. If he would’ve lost all you guys would have been on here saying stuff like he over hyped anyway. I bet that Carwin will get a dropped before Cain.
by Danny_c on Jun 17, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually Brown Pride is really racist, because it isolates other ethnic groups and puts a lable on them..it is politically incorrect. If he wanted to pride himself on his culture, the tattoo should be Mexican Pride or Hispanic Pride, instead of targeting those who don’t belong to that specific selective category, and its far to vague to begin with. He seems humble enough, hes a great fighter but I will never be a fan.
by Stab to the Liver on Jun 17, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You don’t see Marcus Davis running around with a White Pride Tattoo, do you? No he has class, and respect for other cultures.
by Stab to the Liver on Jun 17, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do half of you guys know where the term Brown Pride originated from? It has nothing to do with race.I suppose the Virgin Mary tattoo is racist too? It also isolates sepecific groups as well. And if you guys think Cain Velasques is a thug you guys are nuts. Go watch Gangland on History channel and see real thugs. What kind of thug wrestles in high school? I will be a fan of Cain when he either drops to 205 or gains 20 pounds if muscle mass.
by Danny_c on Jun 17, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thank you, that’s exactly what im sayin. cain needs to drop to 205 now cause he’s gonna be the next brandon vera. everyones gonna think hes the sh!t til he gets whooped by some of the bigger heavyweights and has no other choice but to go down.
by matmar87 on Jun 17, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because the term originated some wheres, doesn’t mean its not racist lol. The swastika was a very pagan symbol that was developed in proto-celtic europe and has been found as far as Asia. It doesn’t translate the same message as It did in ancient times that is for sure. Brown Pride is racial and very vague.
by Stab to the Liver on Jun 17, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand why you guys are hating on kongo.. he is a world class athlete and a very devestating striker.. to say he has zero ground game is just stupid…. no you keyboard warriors have zero ground game.. he’s been training martial arts all his life… some people are just better than others at certain things. like standup wrestling jiu jitsu. Cain did very well against kongo, his standup was far from perfect but he makes up for it with his grappling. He is the future of the division… Til you guys fight professionally in MMA like i do, you dont know what the fuck your talking about….
by edgar on Jun 17, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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