Dana White: Brock Lesnar 'could possibly be the best heavyweight fighter in UFC history' (Video)

wait so a guy who lost 1 time in 2 years (rematching the only defeat and dominating him for an ncaa title) isn’t world class but machida is a world class striker because of how dominant he is but never did the olympics? it makes no sense how some of the wrestlers are criticized.. just so you know brock lesnar is 10x the wrestler of shane carwin.. carwin got DOMINATED on the ground by gonzaga and couldn’t stop the takedown yet he is better then brock at wrestling? jon fitch has 0 ncaa titles yet he is a great wrestler?

king mo failed to make the olympics and was no more decorated then brock lesnar in college, hendo was no more decorated in college either, the only one you listed that is a better true wrestler would be koscheck..

rosholt,koscheck,lindland,couture,and ben askren are probably the only MMA fighter truly more skilled in wrestling then brock lesnar..

and if you consider the difference between some of the styles of wrestling it’s a totally bad topic to discuss but brock lesnar is truly one of the greatest heavyweight wrestlers there ever was, and probably ever will be, he actually had to wrestle his way into college by being a juco national champion 2 years in a row..

your rant was pointlessly littered with shit for facts

i’m no brock nuthugger and i think he shouldn’t be given the title shots yet BUT the man is more skilled then most would think..

Best heavyweight my ass..

I can’t see the vid but I could imagine what he is saying.

Could be the best in the world? What when he gets some submission defense / offense and decent striking you mean

Saying stuff like this is bullshit and only forwards Danas plan of getting under Fedor’s skin for him to come to the UFC and making all the fans demand it of him too. That way when Fedor is offered another BS UFC deal and he declines it makes him look like he’s scared to face Brock when we all really know the truth.

I would like to see it happen but unless they do business with him on a realistic level it will NOT happen any time soon.

this guy is definitely not the best or ever will be the best in the world … right now i dont even think he is the best in the ufc…. i personally believe carwin (a guy closer to his own weight) would destroy him

he has been winning because of his size advantage mainly

his wrestling isnt great he struggled to take down a significantly lighter and older man in couture… he is defo no GSP who can take his opponents down at will

the only thing he has got is weight and speed over his opponents

so someone his own weight (carwin) with good wrestling would kill this guy

I dislike this guy so much and will never like him… i hate how dana gives him so much credit for basically being big and fast

i really cant wait to see him face someone his own size so i can prove my point/theory

Lesnar didn’t beat Stephen Neal in 2000. I know Lesnar lost the NCAA final in 1999 to him but he didn’t rematch and beat him in for the NCAA title in 2000.

I wont waste a single minute of my life listening to what Dana says in this video! Whenever you start saying that a guy with 3 fights, who hasnt beaten a single top opponent, is going to be the best HW ever…thats where I draw the line!

I have a feeling that the ridiculous UFC 100 hype is going to piss me off! Hopefully, I can find a way to ignore all the hype so that UFC 100 doesnt disapoint me!

UFC 100 is around the corner, and none of you Fockers are even talking about Akiyama bringing SEXY BACK to the UFC! lol

Very much looking forward to his debut!

if the UFC hold an event in Japan in the near future…I would love to see Wanderlei vs. Akiyama! THat is a fight that the people of Japan would EAT UP! co-main event worthy for a Japan card for sure!

Right, so Mousasi who’s fought at 185 would beat Lesnar who fights at 265 more like 285 on a fight night?? Are you f@cking insane???? Lesnar would pick him up, ring his neck like a turkey and throw him into the crowd!

Mousasi just subbed Hunt, who is heaveier than Lesnar. Mosusasi is a HUGE 185 man, he could def. make heavyweight just like Anderson Silva could.

Mark Hunt, that’d be the same one dimensional K1 slugger with a hard head, who’s got no ground game and lost his last how many bouts???? Good comparison!

Mousasi maybe a huge 185 but Lesnar is an enormous 265, there’s just no way Mousasi could be strong enough to handle an animal like Lesnar!

get your facts straight! Right now MOusasi is walking around at about 220 lbs!

And Lesnar at 280, what’s your point?

NOt saying that physically, MOusasi is ready RIGHT NOW for Lesnar…just pointing out that Right now, he does have the size to compete at HW, if he choses…HIs skill has never been the question…. I would however like to see him stick around at lightheavyweight fopr a year or 2 before making the jump at heavyweight!

After re-reading my original post, it might have came off as confrontational but that wasnt my intention at all, and I apologize if I came off the wrong way…I was just trying to point out his true size right now, in case some people still thought he was floating around the 185 -200 lb mark….He is a lot bigger right now, then when he won the Pride Gp!

sorry again, when I am posting quickly, I need to chose my words better!

JohnG are you john????

I agree he needs to move to LHW for a bit, get his body accustomed to carrying the extra weight. I believe if he moves to HW straight away he will lose all cardio coz his body wont cope carrying the extra weight. He’ll also lose speed and wont be able to match strength with the natural HW’s IMO. I think a guy like Brock, naturally about 300lbs, who has to cut to make weight would throw a guy like mousasi round like a rag doll, who’s having to pile on body weight to be a HW. That’s a huge advantage Lesnar has already.

Attakdog-

Yes. john changed his name to John G.

Thanks for the heads up OJR.

yeah, thats exactly why I want to se ehim stick around at lightheavyweight for a while. LIke u said, if he just piles the weight on fast, he will look like crap, the way NInja looked when he Ate his way into the 2004 HW Pride GP, and Sergei Knocked his block off!

Mousasi does not belong at HW. He might be able to take advantage of the lack of skill in that division, but the size discrepancy will cost him sooner or later. When a guy has fifty pounds on you and decides to lay on top of you, it’s pretty damn hard to do much about it.

Agreed JJ

John, that was the exact comparison I had in my mind too. Ninja looked like crap that night!

It’s hard to say, but either way, we can’t keep making a huge deal out of his wins, if his opponents are getting tore up by everyone else as well. Oh, and I’m not bying the “Fedor killed their will to fight” theory.

Why leave it at last 5 fights, you have to go all the way back 10 fights to 2004 to find a really good win over a legit top tier opponent in Nog. Cro cop could also be considered legit but his record lately raises the question; did Mirko fall from grace or was he just not that great to sart with. For that matter Nog looked pretty flaky in his last outing and if he wasnt fit to fight Mir he should have pulled out of the match. Keep going back and you get the likes of Randleman and Coleman, look at their recent performances! Shit! even at 185 205. And if anyone puts Barnett # 2 they are deluded. What has he done worth a shit in years – i will tell you – fuck all.

If that is the way you want to lokk at it then what does that say about the people who Arlovski has beaten or Nog who struggled and was getting schooled by Sylvia before the submission or is this only about making Fedor look bad. And the bottom line is how many heavyweights do you know would have been able to take that shot from Mercer square on the chin and still been standing. Mercer may well be old but he was one of the best in the world and has probably been boxing for at least 30 years, he probably would have knocked anybody out if he connected, especially if they took him lightly and underestimated him. And that was a pretty descent flurry that Rogers came out with, I am not saying he would have beaten every heavyweight with it, but it was extremely quick with power and would definately had a few in trouble. Vitor Belfort knocked out Lindland nuff said. Sylvia and Arlovski’s losses were knockouts,they were boxing even though the fights were labeled MMA matches, the ground game never came into it. Some might think these losses might tarnish his Fedors victories, I am not one of them.

As I’ve said before – Boxers are very underestimated due to lack of kicks/ground game, the one thing they do better than anyone else is punch and the last thing they lose is that punch power. A 50 year old will have slower reactions, slower pace, less fitness etc etc but they still keep that punch power and Mercer always had plenty of that – if he hit Lesnar, Randy, Fedor or anyone else like that wearing those lightweight MMA gloves they would be in the shit. The key is the better fighters would not be getting hit like that in the first place – Tim is not a good fighter, he’s just big.

Lesnar, unlike Tim, really could be a force to be reckoned with because if he wants to take you down chances are you’re going down – he’s fast, he’s hugely powerful and he can wrestle, regardless of his time in the WWE and lack of BJJ skills. I think to beat him as his skills progress (avoiding those ankle locks and moving on from Hughes-style lay-n-pray) you’re going to have to be very quick on your feet to avoid the shoots (rules out the older guys) and have serious ground game. Yet to see Lesnar really trade on the feet so his chin is untested.

Unfortunately as predictable as it sounds Fedor may well be the only guy capable enough and we may never see that. Mir to me is actually 2nd in line because of his well rounded abilities (aside from the fact he is 1-0 against Lesnar anyway), perhaps not quite as quick or powerful as Fedor but he does have decent stand up and ground skills, is strong and quick(ish) maybe not enough explosiveness though, and that could be the key in the upcoming fight – I doubt Lesnar will make the same amateur mistakes twice in a row now he’s been MMA training for some time.

Kevin dont you know by now that Fedor doesnt just beat his opponents, he takes their SOUL!!!! The Curse of the last Emperor!

John, reading your inane posts doesnt just bore me, it saps my will to LIVE!!!!

1 ore thing, I posted this yesterday, it got buried along with 150 other comments. First, the rumor is supposedly not true, and 2nd isn’t Ariel Halwani supposedly a journalist? Now he’s sucking off UFc brass!
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"I’m still in shock. Cro Cop was punking all of us. I hope Cro Cop goes on a three fight losing streak and gets the hell out of MMA. He’s a disgrace."
"…He can’t even beat Mostapha Al-Turk without poking him in the eye."
this is a quote from ariel halwani, while we normal bloggers can have this opinion, is he a UFC employee or fan boy or is he supposedly the best mma interviewer and opinion giver? These statements are biased and dumb. First, Cro cop can sign with whomever he wants and 2nd, who cares??!!

I laugh when I saw you posted that yesterday Kev.
Coming from a guy who was telling Jesse how Ariel’s AA interview was as good,or better than the Bolender’s one.It’s,funny to see how you feel cheated by your journalist…and btw I was capable to “read (and comprehend)” the pee pee joke mofo.j/k
Anyway I wasn’t a fan of lole and Ariel(this is a chicks name btw)in the first place.For my part I have an absolute abhorrence of these two…,so I try to don’t read any of their news.

hey off topic but if this http://twitter.com/dragonmachida is the real machida, he’s a complete ASSHOLE he talks some shit behind a keyboard

@SugaRashadEvans rashad still think i dont hit hard! Ha didnt even wait to counterstrike you. I am too accurate for you. I am in your dreams
about 21 hours ago from web in reply to SugaRashadEvans

@SugaRashadEvans rashad still think i dont hit hard! Ha didnt even wait to counterstrike you. I am too accurate for you. I am in your dreams
about 21 hours ago from web in reply to SugaRashadEvans

the 2 people he posted at i know the rampage one is for real the right account and all idk rashad much but joe rogan is following machida so maybe it’s real? mania find outtttt

It seems unlikely that Machida would Twitter.

If I were him “LaCheetah” I,would be a keyboard warrior and talking shit too!

I dont believe that is really him.

I highly doubt Machida is on Twitter.

Then bring back The McMaineiac for a final UFC ass-kicking before he goes back to working on a Maine lobster boat.

I reckon if he fights Carwin he’s gettin KTFO.

But the thing I do like about Brock though, in response to questions about whether it’s too early for him to be fighting in the UFC — it IS too early, and he’s doing well, he could have fought in lesser organizations and racked up some more wins, some more experience, but he’s doing it as he goes and doing it well. So I respect him for that.

Haha PW, MAine-ac..I don’t even know what to say when it comes to that fat a$$!

what is with the carwin hype bandwagon? the man is talented sure but his win over gonzaga is less then impressive, he was getting destroyed til he landed his one punch.. and at his own wrestling game, if you said fedor would knock him out it has much more credibility but a guy who is yet to fight a consistant top 5 guy? FUCK no gonzaga is on and off top skill level and everybody has always known this

The fact that he KO every opponent he has faced is very impressive. The UFC HW is division minus NOg and Couture is young and talented I can’t wait to see some of the up coming battles after Mir and Lesnar who is next in line?

I get your point Randy but as Beaver said, he’s KO’ed every opponent including a tough, high-level fighter in Gonzaga.

Yeah, Gonzaga was winning the fight so far, but a good fighter isn’t suddenly a perfect fighter. He was losing, but the fight was far from over, as we found out.

Lesner has had only three MMA fights with one being a loss. Carwin is probably equal in size and strength and has had more MMA experience than Lesner, it is not that much of a stretch to say that Carwin has all the tools to take Lesner out, and until I see Lesner in a more even match up like this and win it convincingly, I will not be convinced that he he some sort of MMA god with his total of 3 MMA fights.

Carwin aint equal in size and strength kid, not a chance! Nor does he have Lesnars speed, athleticism or close to his wrestling skill. He probably has the edge standing though.

“Lesnar in a more even match up”? The guy destroyed HW champ Randy Couture and totally owned Heath Herring, how more even do you want. Brock Lesnar vs King Kong Brock Lesnar vs Godzilla??

LOL — “Brock Lesnar vs King Kong?? Brock Lesnar vs Godzilla??”

Haha. Yeah, Lesnar has the speed over Carwin for sure, but strength, not so sure. Physical grappling strength is tough to call but I reckon punching power could go to Carwin.

In size, I’m not one to say because they are both listed as 6’3 but that could be inaccurate (especially since Randy is listed as 6’2 and is more like 6’0 or 6’1; and Rich Franklin was down as 5’11 when he first came to the UFC but he is definitely about 6’1 as the stats show now, but my point is that the stats are not always accurate).

But Lesnar looks like the product of a military experiment commissioned to create a supersoldier which also approved mixing his DNA with an albino gorilla’s. LOL. If this was the eighties he could have been in a series of D grade action films. LOL.

Lol Johnny, I think you’re right about Lesnars origin story, he clearly isn’t human!

When I was talking about size, i wasn’t just meaning height, I was including weight too and on that basis I would say Lesnar is definitely the larger physical specimen. Remember he cuts weight to make 265, he must walk round at nearer 300. That’s 300lbs of solid muscle not Tim Sylvia blubber too!!

Hehe.

Yeah, I forgot to mention total size, mass, etc. even though it was on my mind.

Apparently Carwin needs one more X than Lesnar does in his glove size though. But yeah, in volume, total mass, you’re probably right.

Hmm, not counting Hong Man Choi — who most likely has marfan syndrome — I wonder who takes the size prize. Bob Sapp I suppose? He’s huge.

But the thing about Brock’s build, even if there are bigger guys than him, no one seems to have the same kind of build, that ‘Clydesdale’ build like Mir once described him as being like.

Kudos to Randy for not getting dominated physically; a testament to his wrestling skills.

Manny Yarborough (or however its spelt) from UFC 3, now that guy was big!!! Like big as in Blue Whale big! Pity he had the speed of a sloth, turned like a battleship, had a ground game that made Cheick Kongo look like Demian Maia and swung like a rusty gate. Apart from those small holes in his game he had all the tools to go really far in MMA, wonder why it never worked out for him?

LOL.

Oh yeah. Was he that massive, fat black sumo guy? He was like a planet!

Haha ‘Blue Whale big!’ — LOL

That’s the fella!

He was caught red-handed with growth hormone…that means that at some point he used performance enhancing drugs(which most growth hormone is wayyyy better for performance and health than your typical anabolic steroid). It is what it is.

The UFC doesnt “make” you sign a contract, if Fedor had come to the UFC when Zuffa baught Pride he could have unified the Pride and UFC hw titles and there would be no debate, he didnt. His reasons for not signing are lame, petty little whineing excusues. The real reason is that there is more money for easier fights elswhere and thats what Fedor wants. Fedor probably would ko or sub anyone but i want to see it not just read about it.

I honestly don’t think Fedor cares that much about the money – have you seen where he lives? Certainly isn’t a cribs style pimp mansion that’s for sure.

He actually has some honour and wants to continue competing in his Sambo tournaments, representing his country – Dana won’t let him do that as well as the UFC so he won’t sign, simple. I don’t even see Dana’s problem with that as we’ve lost so many fighters to training injuries lately that it can hardly be any worse.

Yea…. thanks for all the input from my original post…. as a new MMA fan, I notice all these “great” ones are not living up to the hype… first Cro Cop… then Big Nog disappointed… then Randy, who I prayed would defeat Lesnar, got KTFO…

And then I see Fedor beat Tim and Arlovski….

I just think these guys have past their expiration date.

I recently watched Butter-Bean fight Patrick Smith on YouTube.. it was a circus side-show… I felt guilty watching it.

And though it’s not quite that bad when these older fighters go at it, it almost does feel like I’m watching a spectacle and not an MMA fight.