UFC 99 recap and post-fight discussion for 'The Comeback' in Germany
by MMAmania.com on Jun 13, 2009 5:58 PM EDT
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UFC 99: "The Comeback" took place this afternoon (June 13, 2009) from the Lanxess Arena in Cologne, Germany. It aired on pay-per-view (PPV) at 3 p.m. ET and will re-air later on this evening at 10 p.m. ET.
With six live fights featured on the broadcast, the production moved quicker than normal to get them all in, wrapping in just under three hours. It certainly wasn't because the fights finished fast -- four of
the six featured fights went the distance, including the 195-pound catchweight main event bout between Rich Franklin and Wanderlei Silva.
It was billed as a special attraction booked "for the fans." And "Ace" and the "Axe Murderer" delivered with a back-and-forth slugfest that had its fair share of exciting moments.
In the end, it was Franklin who came out on top, notching an important -- albeit unpopular -- unanimous decision win. He had to overcome a scare toward the tail end of the second round, however, to get it done.
Silva had him seeing black after a flurry of strikes, but Franklin held on until the horn blared to end the round. It's no coincidence that it was also at the same time that he strayed from his gameplan,
which was to stay on the outside and pick apart the Brazilian brawler rather than getting baited into a dogfight.
The three-round fight was closer than the unanimous decision result indicates -- Franklin scored a late takedown in the final frame that more than likely sealed the victory. His punch and kick accuracy was also a big help. He was the clear choice on the judges scorecards, but Silva earned the praise of the German fans for his aggressive performance.
Franklin now returns to the 205-pound ranks. And Silva is expected to continue his move south, settling at middleweight in the future. However, the big money match against his former friend and training partner, UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva, is out the window.
He now has five losses in his last six appearances. That's not good, even though he has been pitted against some of the best competition the sport has to offer. He desperately needs a Keith Jardine-like win in his middleweight debut to get out of this slump, otherwise he may have to seriously consider hanging up the gloves.
That hurts to say -- Wanderlei Silva is so good for mixed martial arts on so many different levels. It just seems that all the wars and epic battles have finally caught up to him.
On the opposite side of the spectrum, heavyweight up-and-comer Cain Velasquez faced the first big test of his blossoming career. Emphasis on big -- Cheick Kongo was tapped as last minute replacement for Velasquez's original opponent, Heath Herring.
Kongo was kind enough to show the American Kickboxing Academy (AKA) how the big boys play just seconds into the bout, blasting him with two clean punches that turned Velasquez's legs into rubber. The All American wrestler from Arizona State University, however, was able to recover after nailing a takedown and opening up the ground and pound flood gates.
That's pretty much how the fight went for the next 15 minutes -- Kongo lands a big punch early in the round, gets taken down and then beat up. Repeat. And Velasquez really did dish out some relentless
punishment -- Kongo was gushing blood from his nose when all was said and done.
Kongo was assured a title shot before the fight had he won. Now that Velasquez spoiled those plans one has to wonder what's next -- a number one contender eliminator against Shane Carwin, perhaps?
That would be sick.
Regardless of what happens down the road, Velasquez is going to give anyone in the division a very hard time with his smothering cage control and brutal ground and pound. He was throwing the 230-pound Kongo all over cage, too.
Scary stuff. He just really needs to work his stand up to put it all together.
Mustafa Al Turk didn't seem scared, taking it to Mirko Cro Cop as fast as he could when the heavyweight scrap began. The lethal Croatian striker was moving backwards, making it virtually impossible for him to uncork his trademark kicks.
Both fighters traded some nice punches as things warmed up, but it was an inadvertent eye poke that appeared to be the difference maker. Al Turk -- who was on the wrong end of a series of effective combinations before the mishap -- covered up and went into full protection mode.
The referee, and Cro Cop, didn't appear to realize the reason for his sudden decision to disengage and the action continued. It wasn't long before Cro Cop put the finishing touches on his own "Comeback," scoring a technical knockout win midway through round one.
It wasn't the kind of decisive finish that Cro Cop and his fans are accustomed to, but it did appear that the momentum was beginning to shift in his favor and Al Turk's time would have been up soon anyway.
Regardless, Cro Cop picked up a big win and one that he can hopefully build off to make a run at the title, which may or may not include a date with Mr. Velasquez down the road. Who knows? What we do know is that the heavyweight division is all of a sudden ripe with fantastic potential match ups.
It's going to be fun to watch it all unfold. Real fun.
The welterweight division, which is seemingly always bubbling over with talent, also had a few representatives going toe-to-toe at UFC 99 -- Marcus Davis was eager to shut up Dan Hardy and Mike Swick and Ben Saunders hooked 'em to to see who was the bigger man inside the Octagon.
Despite his best efforts, Davis didn't seem as if he could get anything going against "The Outlaw." He was tagged a few times and hurt, but didn't do much return damage. He did land some clean shots and controlled at least two of the three rounds with takedowns, ground and pound and submission attempts.
In short, he was the busier fighter. However, Hardy was able to do more damage when he picked his spots, opening up a nasty gash on the bridge of Davis' nose with a well-placed elbow, as well as slicing some skin on his forehead. Davis looked like he'd been in a fight at the conclusion of the bout, while Hardy didn't.
There's usually no rhyme or reason as to how judges score fights -- it's such an inexact science. The fact of the matter is that it was a close fight and, based on the beef these guys have, more than likely means that we will see it again soon.
Let's run it back! In the meantime, Hardy takes a big step up the 170-pound ladder and Davis drops another rung. Hardy must love it when a plan comes together ... Davis, not so much.
That's enough from us -- now it's your turn to discuss "The Comeback" in the comments section below. Should Wanderlei Silva retire? Does Cain Velasquez deserve a title shot? And how about his stablemate, Mike Swick, is he ready for a championship opportunity? And let's not forget about Cro Cop -- where does he go from hear?
Sound off, Maniacs. Let's hear what you have to say. For complete UFC 99 results and detailed blow-by-blow commentary of the televised main card fights click here.
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Davis, Uno and Wanderlei were robbed. Judging tonight was gay as hell
by zachy on Jun 13, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the decisions for all three were correct. Getting robbed would imply that someone won handily and then the judges took it away from them like the Bisping-Hamill fight. None of those were a robbery. Davis got his butt handed to him. He may have had more control but Hardy almost knocked him out like three times. Uno, did absolutely nothing until the final minute. Wanderlei sat back and looked for a big punch. Franklin consistently battered him with punches and kicks the whole fight.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could anyone look at Davis’ or Wandy’s faces at the end of their fights and think they won? They both got clocked. I have no idea how one judge gave that to Davis.
by PW on Jun 13, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only suspect decision was Uno butsome judges dont judge aggressively going for submissions for 4:45 of a round as much as 15 seconds of knees and attempted strikes!
All in all a good night of fights. The germans should feel proud to have had a good amount of action and close battles throughout.
by Ca$z on Jun 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uno was robbed no doubt about it. How all three judges gave that to Fisher i’ll never know.
by attakdog on Jun 14, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do the judges know MMA?
Constantly a fighter on their back loses even though they’re throwing submission attempts and not taking damage.
If a guy gets cut and the other doesn’t they usually lose even though they may have landed more strikes/kicks or had more effective control, etc.
Takedowns score too much—people go for takedowns just for the points now and once the fight is on the ground they don’t do shit.
Decisions rarely make sense.
Lastly…
I think Dana should start paying fighters per round. If you bitch out like Saunders during a round (or an entire fight) you shouldn’t get paid.
How do you have a single butterfly hook with double underhooks or full butterfly guard with a whizzer and not once do you attempt to sweep and advance your position? What’s the fucking point of being in the fight? Saunders is a bitch.
by Kevin @ This is Broken Blog on Jun 14, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I was pulling for Davis, and thought it might have gone either way, but have no problem with the call.
I thought Ace certainly won, I don’t know how else you would have scored it. Uno and Spencer…ehhh, I’m not sure I even remember that fight.
Tons of respect for Cain’s approach to his fight. He will make some more noise in the HW division before he’s finished with the UFC.
Anyone else have issues with the audio delay in the beginning? Or was it my cheap satellite equipment again?
by Jrandolph on Jun 13, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
patting myself on the back, i picked all 6 main card fights right. i think all decisions were pretty good too, no controversy in my eyes. as for the eye poke i think it only sped up the fight a little. those looping overhand were missing by miles and crocop was finally finding his timing. all things considered not a bad show of fights with uno being the exception. i know i will catch flack for this but i hate pure jits guys almost as much as pure wrestlers. humping a guys leg for 10 minutes is lame and then chasing him whuile rubbing your ass on the mat is even lamer. learn some stand up to get in close then use you jits. and winning the last 30 seconds of a decision fight doesnt make you a winner.
by Egads on Jun 13, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only fights I got wrong this time were Wandy and Uno. I got all of the rest including the undercard!!
I needed that after getting nearly all wrong on the Strikeforce card. lol
by Ca$z on Jun 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“He may have had more control but Hardy almost knocked him out like three times.”
So Kongo should have won the decision too?
by Prokstar on Jun 14, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you even watch the fights or do you just show up here the next day and spew stupidity?
by the spyder on Jun 14, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOME! just kidding. He will still be a threat to most MW’s when he finally gets there.
by JV on Jun 13, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah franklin picked him apart, and andersons silvas striking is on another level than franklin, so imagine what he would do to wandy. the dude has lost like 6 of his last 7 fights, its time to hang it up
by dtoto on Jun 13, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i think its time for dana to cut wand, for his own good before he substains brain damage, the guy has lost like 6 out of his last 7 fights, is there anyone else that would be allowed to be in the ufc with that type of record. even when he fights at MW, he will be no threatt to anderson, if even franklin can pick him apart. I think he needs to drop down to LW, then he would have a real chance to capture the title
by dtoto on Jun 13, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dtoto, u have no concept about the physical weight loss, Wanderlei would have to have cancer to make LW.
by DAVE A on Jun 14, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much decisions and uno and alturk got robbed haha
by N-Cryptic on Jun 13, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I don’t agree with Uno getting robbed. You can win a fight when all you did was got your takedowns stuffed and then when you finally get one at the very end, do very little damage. Fisher had clean strikes and knees the entire fight.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fisher only landed 3 or 4 ‘clean’ strikes the whole fight. I thought Uno was had the better ‘effective grappling’ to win the fight rounds 2 and 3. it was a terrible fight anyhow, not much rise for either fighter
by Syn on Jun 13, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Effective grappling??? You mean leaning on him while he made failed take-down attempt after failed take-down attempt? That wasn’t even Clay Guida boring…it was worse
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey man its just how I saw the fight. Fisher seemed really tentative to engage, and just looking to defend takedowns. But like I said, it was a weak fight altogether.
by Syn on Jun 13, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, that’s true, I’m not trying to attack you. I just saw the same way the judges did. Everyone sees things differently
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. I think we agree on every other fight though. I thought Hardy decision was good, and although I missed a bit of the Franklin fight, mostly the first few minutes of the 3rd, but thought he won the fight.
Kongo was disappointing, and I thought Swick was too experienced for Ben. Ben is still too green, and hadn’t fought anyone to suggest he could hang with top 10 Swick. Looked like a weak stoppage though. Too bad it will get KO of the Night.
Glad my boy Terry Etim won, by D’Arce nonetheless. When announcing Sub of the Night, they said he came back and won, which shook me up a bit.
Solid card. Didn’t quite deliver as much as I thought, but solid.
by Syn on Jun 13, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, we agreed on the others. Look, I’m sorry if anyone is annoyed by the RedDog…I’m just so amped after those fights I want to get into the Octagon right now! Those were good fights and this time, I was watching them alone (it started at noon where I am)so you guys are like my friends I was watching the fights with.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree Syn. Fisher was totally on the defensive and worried the whole time as he knew he would have got subbed if he wasn’t totally thinking about takedown defense which lead him to doing virtually NOTHING in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
Uno should have got the nod but I’m not gonna lose any sleep over it. It is what it is.
by Ca$z on Jun 13, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fisher landed a few big shots, other than that he was only defending.
by Tom on Jun 13, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya That poke to the eye was pretty bad didnt even see it till they replayed it!!!
by Nor-Cal Mexican (formely phlicutioner) on Jun 13, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awsome fights! I hope some of you guys open your eyes about Swick. Cro-Cop didnt really look impressive. Cain looked good but he may not be able to take on big dogs like Brock and Carwin. I would say Cain could tear it up at LHW! And Franklin/Wanderlei was bitter/sweet. Im a big fan of both, so good fight good decision.
by JV on Jun 13, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uno got robbed for sure. If he didn’t win the 2nd it should have been a draw. Wand is probly gonna retire now. It was obvious that he didn’t cut the weight properly. Surprised that he tried other things though and like we all knew Franklin doesn’t have KO power.
by NameNotRequired on Jun 13, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Cain might or might not be able to beat those guys but he’s right there! If Kongo couldn’t knock him out with those clean strikes, then who could? Plus, he demolished Kongo, who is very highly rated and no one had knocked this guy out. But when have you EVER seen Kongo get beat up like that before?
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats true RedDog! Cain has proved hes legit. Complete domination of a quality opponent. Mexican chin is there, cause to take those shots without going to sleep is crazy!
by JV on Jun 13, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ablsolutely crazy! He just kept coming! If I were the other HWs, I’d be very afraid of someone that keeps coming no matter what like Cain did.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be that afraid. If he keeps coming, he’ll walk into something again. If Carwin hit him(another hype train) he’d be out. He demolished Kongo by exposing his weakness, but Kongo also exposed Cain’s weakness.
With that said, Kongo did get manhandled, dominating performance, but not impressed by the lack of finish considering the dominance.
by notatroll on Jun 13, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Kongo has only been finished once in his career and it was in 04. So, he is very tough to finish. But I see your points but you have to remember that Kongo is probably a better striker than any other or most heavywheights
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very tough to finish, and he is a top striker. but in terms of power, if carwin or brock(ughhh hype train) hits him like that he’s dunzo, not that anyone wouldn’t be knocked out by power shots by that, just responding to your post saying that cain could take shots from anyone.
with that being said, cain’s control was very impressive, but considering the positions he put Kongo in he should have finished him. just like brock vs. herring, i was impressed in some aspects, and disappointed in other.
by notatroll on Jun 13, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cain also won’t be able to rely on his wrestling against Lesnar or Carwin. They’re both every bit as good, if not better, than Cain.
by PW on Jun 13, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets see Kongo fight Goinzaga now. Two big guys who can bang. I’d love to see that fight go down.
by DB on Jun 13, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, that shot Kongo hit Cain with was similar to that shot Carwin had on Gabe. Kongo doesn’t have the power of Carwin, but if he lands the same way, Gabe is dunzo, we all know how much he likes getting hit lol
by rockwell on Jun 13, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there is a heavyweight with a worse ground game than Kongo, I am hard pressed to think of him. Why he tried to wrestle with Cain when he had the chance to stand up is beyond me.
by naturalshadow on Jun 14, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kongo’s ground game and TD defence are just pathetic and not UFC standard at all. Saying that He still could have won due to Cain thinking he was Iron Mike Tyson at the beginning of every round. Why when you got tagged like that in the first round would you go back for more???
It answered many questions about Cain but also raised a few. We all now know he’s a contender, but we also know he can’t finish top guys. He has a relentless GnP but it’s not a very damaging one like a Fedor or a Carwin or even Kongo himself, a bit like Lesnar if anything.
At least he’s ended the chances of Kongo ever getting a “teetle” shot, and i’ll be forever grateful to him for that!
by attakdog on Jun 14, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Kongo, but he definately has the worst ground game in the division, and considering Cain is supposed to have one of thebest ground games and is supposed to be a wizard, getting a descision win after having Kongo on the ground for nearly the entire fight isn’t all that impressive, I was more impressed with Kongo actually taking it to a descision.
by Ade on Jun 14, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marrero did virtually the same thing to Kongo a while ago.
by halljam2 on Jun 13, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but someone like Lesnar, with good wrestling will not be so easily handled, but with that said, There are a ton of guys at HW that Cain can beat up for now. I was impressed for sure.
by Jrandolph on Jun 13, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand why cain didnt want to sink in the hooks and at leat tray a RNC I know he was wanting to controll top position but man the rnc looked available several times and kongo was definitely softened up for it.
Isnt the whole point to try and finish your opponent or are they not working basic subs at aka. ya ya its easier said then done but that was frustrating to see the openings were available for the finish and cain not taking advantage of it.
a submision victory due to tap or unconciesness is a hell of alot more impressive than a UD but you gatta give it to cain he dominated kongo for 14 1/2 min of that fight
by dia mette on Jun 13, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But when have you EVER seen Kongo get beat up like that before?
I’m not really surprised. It’s basically the same thing Herring did to him.
by Prokstar on Jun 14, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not impressed at all by Cain. Kongo doesnt actually hit that hard. He usually uses combos to do damage. He pretty much hurt Cain with every strike he landed. Cain totally dominated with wrestling but his ground and pound sucked. His punches were almost slap like. I give Cain credit for the win but it wasnt as good as it looked. What happens when he runs into the big wrestlers who can thump?
by NorthStar on Jun 13, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in my opinion, wandy lose the fight in the scores but won the fight with the heart, thats something that rich franklin will never have.
war velasquez
by Ryosuke on Jun 13, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rich won the fight, I guess you he didn’t need the heart today.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he didn’t need the heart today
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Rich has always been a jerk and never a champion or anything. STFU Ryuken.
by PW on Jun 13, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really believe that rich franklin is a great thinking fighter, he doesnt throw punches and bunches, he choose the strikes, and i respect that, but noone can deny if you compare rich and wandy, maybe rich is a better technical fighter but wandy has more heart and for me thats the most important part of the game…
by Ryosuke on Jun 13, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heart is important, but winning is the most important part of the game. I hope that Wandy can win again, or close out before he is a vegetable. I can’t believe he is only 32. He has aged in dog years.
by naturalshadow on Jun 14, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean, but it’s getting a bit old for me. You know the whole “I don’t care if I win as long as the fans love me”. I love Vandy, but geeze screw what the fans want for 3 or 4 minutes and win a fight already.
…and Rich won, no doubt.
by Jrandolph on Jun 13, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought UFC 99 was great. Exciting fights, controversy, dominance, the whole lot.
Thanks UFC for another great event.
by UK_Chris on Jun 13, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a very awesome “day” of fights
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cain showed hes nuhting really special but a better more aggresive jake o’brein, main event was good, cro cop looked great, davis got robbed, decent event but alot of my pics lost, happy to see ben saunders get his ass kicked though..
by guyverbob on Jun 13, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When have you seen Congo get handled like that before?
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a split decision!!! 5 years agoo!!!! This was, as Adam put it, a r@ping up the butt
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a split decision (I thought it should have been unanimous) and it was 10/14/2006…not even three years ago.
by halljam2 on Jun 13, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, ok, I guess you got me then. My point no longer holds any validity.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely get your point. Cain is a great wrestler that outworked Kongo. I think ANY good wrestler will do the same thing to Kongo. All of his wins have been against stand up fighters…Hardonk, Al-Turk, Evensen, Cro Cop, Assuerio Silva. He is yet to beat a decent wrestler. Cain was much more dominant than Marrero for sure.
by halljam2 on Jun 13, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just shows alot of the sport is subjective. because i disagree with basically everything you said.
by UK_Chris on Jun 13, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but your right about main event. good fight.
by UK_Chris on Jun 13, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, it’s funny how differently we saw that
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually carmelo meraro or how ever u spell it layed on kongo like that b4, how can u not finish a fight wen u hav a guys back and the choke in, im glad cain was exposed for bein a fantastic wwrestler and nuthing more, thats all..
by guyverbob on Jun 13, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a split decision! And that was like five years ago! This was no split decision my friend MacGuyver, this was an all-out @ss whoopin’.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh man i don’t know how im gonna survive that one..
by guyverbob on Jun 13, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt think the fights were GREAT, I thought they were pretty good. I would have edged the decision to Davis, but satisfied with a Hardy win. Swick looked good, Killa B did not. That was funny when they were abd mouthing eachother. Cro Cop looked BIG. Looked powerful but not that great either. Mostapha lookde terrible, but I actually good have seen him grinding out a decision. Cain was the equivalent of rape, but with added violence. Cain is going to lose to guys like Brock and Carwin and Mir. Those 3 can knock him out on the feet, and can survive a lot better than Kongo on the ground.
Franklin/Silva fight was good, was really really desperate for Wandy to win, surprised Rich didnt finish him. Good event, but did not live up to my expectations (I was pumped for this as much as any other card this year! More than 95, 96, 97) Wandy looked old and swollen, I think he should stay at 205.
Rich Franklin vs Nate Marquadt next!!
If Henderson loses to Bisping, then:
Hendo vs Wanderlei 3!!!
by adam on Jun 13, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how the hell does the judges score silva and farklin all three judges for him i thought silva won 2 rounds
by chris on Jun 13, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hell no, he just stood there and threw bombs while Franklin picked him apart
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. I’m a Marcus Davis fan and have to admit I was not thrilled with his performance nor his unwillingness to shake Hardy’s hand after the fight. Yeah, Hardy talked a lot of trash leading up to this and I didn’t like it, but he was building up his name and generating hype. He succeeded in both getting his name out there and getting under Davis’ skin. The fight was close but I agree that Hardy took it. The decision could have gone either way. Davis shouldn’t have left it in the hands of the judges.
2. My favorite part of the whole night was the verbal exchange (that the mics picked up quite well) between Mike Swick and Ben Saunders on the ground during the beginning of R1. If you missed it, it was hilarious.
3. Neither Rich Franklin nor Wanderlei Silva will ever be the fighters they once were. In fact, as a Franklin fan, I’m questioning if he was ever the fighter I thought he was, or if it was more an issue of him facing largely overmatched opponents most of the time.
4. Velazquez needs to move down to LHW where I think he could be a real factor.
5. It’s a shame the Cro Cop/Al Turk fight ended partially due to an accidental eye poke, but Cro Cop was on his way to winning that fight anyway. Having said that, he still doesn’t look comfortable in the Octagon. He never has. I think he made one kick attempt, which he aborted midway through it. Here’s a guy whose bread and butter was the kick and he never managed to establish it, or even really attempt to do so, in this fight. He still looks tentative out there.
6. Caol Uno was robbed by the judges. But, as always, if you leave it in their hands, you take your chances.
by Silverladder on Jun 13, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ya I agree with you on cro cop. he looked the same as he did in his first go around in 07. tentative flat footed not much counter striking no kick attempts like you mentioned
I hope im wrong but with what I saw tonight its ganna take a miracle for him to make a title run. Shit valasquez would dominate cro cop as bad if not more than he did kongo.
by dia mette on Jun 13, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WAR BROWN PRIDE!
davis had a good fight but that’s what happens when it goes to the judges.
so franklin goes back to 205 now? for what? silva is done. he’s a legend. he was always a warrior. but he can’t compete in the ufc.
by TRIKZ on Jun 13, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like all my bettings went in,
Cain
Franklin
Crocop
by Il Nino on Jun 13, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All decisions were correct.
Cain proved that he got a terrible standup game but a good chin and blanket skills.
And i hope this puts an end to the ridiculous talk about Kongo being a contender, CARWIN is the #1 Contender no question about it.
by Green Inferno on Jun 13, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree, all decisions were correct and Cain needs to WORK on his standup but Kongo is a world-class striker. If he survived Kongo’s shots, then he will be a force for sure.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kongo is a freaking idiot. He would have murdered Cain on the feet, but he tries to take him down instead. When Kongo gets on the ground it’s like watching an upside-down turtle on Discovery Channel.
by PW on Jun 13, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL! i thought that too, like wtf is your gameplan cheick?
by medecine balls on Jun 13, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well kongo, is an idiot, he really needs to ditch the idiots at wolfslair and join xtreme coture where he can learn how to wrestle. right now, he is nothing but an overgrown melvin manhoof, without the quickness.
by dtoto on Jun 13, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carwin looked good against Gonzaga in the finish but was it such a great punch or suspect Gonzaga chin? Also, he’s got a great record but it’s always deceiving when guys come into the UFC with a great record but have fought tomato cans. Gonzaga is the only “quality” opponent. If you thought Lesnar deserved the title shot after 3 fights in the UFC, then you probably think Carwin is the #1 contender. I think he needs 1 or 2 more fights but that’s just my opinion.
by sudnvictory on Jun 13, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fan boys on this website make it a turn off, its a good site but the guys who comment annoying the shit out of me..
by guyverbob on Jun 13, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is the best website. most people are mature and are willing to look at other perspectives.
by notatroll on Jun 13, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea i guess but guys like john arn’t mature they just act tough and stuff, im alittle mad caause of the kongo fight but seriously i hate how the ppl on here only like winners..
by guyverbob on Jun 13, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I picked my 6 for 6 a day before the fights so…check the thread. I’m pumped because my “winners” won.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFC 99 weigh-in results LIVE for ‘Franklin vs Silva’ from Germany
Comment by RedDog
2009-06-12 10:53:11
My PICKS (These are some of the toughest EVER to pick):
Rich Franklin
Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick
Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher
Mirko Filipovic
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
words eaten. respect.
see, maturity lol.
by notatroll on Jun 13, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went 10-2 with losses to Spencer and Cain
by Syn on Jun 13, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Syn, that is REALLY good. Now please tell me you had some money on those.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wandy got robbed, plain and simple damnit! He was more aggressive and hurt Rich twice. Rich wins because he gets a weak takedown(which wanderlei got up from) at the end of the fight? Come the hell on!
by mmaguy on Jun 13, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
where are all the people that was saying hardy was gona get smashed davis couldn’t handle hardy on the feet so i guess that makes him top 10 hahaha take yr irish flag back to maine along with yr busted up face and girls dress go make a living picking fake spuds.I would like to point out that jess liudon is french and marcus couldn’t handle taylor on the feet either so all you yanks going on about his boxing can do one he couldn’t knock a fish off a wet plate P-A-R-T WHY cos i gotsta
by england 1 fake irish 0 on Jun 13, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His standup is definitely overrated by most. No doubt about that. The likes of Alves of destroy him on the feet.
by RobH86 on Jun 13, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude don’t even say all you yanks who talked up davis’s stand up….there are some americans here (myself included) who knew hardy was going to take that one. to try and turn this into some kind of england vs. usa thing is retarded
by TheLastProdigiousRushingAxeMurderingEmperor on Jun 14, 2009 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wanderlei and Uno got robbed, bullshit judges.
by Márcio on Jun 13, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that “damage” counts a lot in the judges eyes — and Davis took LOADS of damage. His face was a mess by the end of the fight. Hardy, on the other hand, looked pretty-much unscathed. It’s probably a bit unfair, because I (and everyone else I was watching it with) thought that Davis should have won a split decision. Either way, it was a close and entertaining fight. Hardy definitely catapulted himself up the rankings with that win.
Swick looked… skinny! But like Rogan said, he’s just a more advanced version of Saunders (at the moment). Don’t worry, Saunders is still getting better (and he’s still young). I think Swick now needs a big-name opponent in order to silence his critics. Perhaps they could throw him the loser of Alves/GSP (since he won’t fight Koscheck or Fitch).
The Cro-Cop fight was unfortunate (for both guys). I wish the ref had given a time-out, but he was standing at the wrong angle so it’s not really his fault. It’s a pity, because had it not been for the accidental eye-poke then this could have been an interesting fight. It had a promising start. I think Al-Turk should be given another chance (due to the unfortunate circumstances of this fight).
Velasquez was relentless — and he’s improving with every fight. But Kongo was DOMINATING him on the feet. They were only standing for about 40 seconds, right enough, but Velasquez was rocked several times. I feel bad for Kongo… there were a few occasions when he was about an inch away from a knock-out. In the third round, when Kongo got it back to the feet, he threw a massive uppercut which JUST missed. I think we learned a few things from this fight: (i) Velasquez has a good chin, great ground-and-pound and great cardio, (ii) Kongo’s ground-game is still suspect, and (iii) Kongo will (sadly) probably never get his title shot. I hope I’m wrong about (iii), because I like Kongo. How about Carwin-Velasquez for a #1 contender fight?
The main event was excellent. I love the way Wandy got the crowd involved. I also love the way he gives it his all. Like in the final 10 seconds, when he started throwing those backwards-elbows (despite being in a bad position)… it’s as if he wanted to use up every last bit of energy. What a guy. Having said that, Rich definitely won the fight. I like both fighters, so I was going to feel bad for whoever lost. Hopefully Wandy goes on to have a successful run a middleweight — he’s such a great character, and he cares so much (maybe too much?) about putting on a great show. Just watch out for the weight-cut!!
All in all, a great night of fights! :)
by homgran on Jun 13, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty Much AGREE with everything.
A+ analysis.
by SoCalStunNa on Jun 13, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so im hoping carwin gets to eat cain, hes so much better casue he can stuff the take-downs and ko him with one punch cause cain has no chin, but i don’t think thats fight is gonna happen..
by guyverbob on Jun 13, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree…The UFC doesn’t want to knock either of these two guys off right now. They’ll keep feeding them probably lesser opponents until one one gets the title shot.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno if it’s fair to say that he has NO chin.
by rockwell on Jun 13, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’ ve watched a few streamed ufcs and have never had a problem, but holy crap, today I must’ve had to switch ten or more times. ufc is crackin downnnnn
by rockwell on Jun 13, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Most the fights were tight, can’t complain about the decisions, that’s why they tell you to never leave in the hands of the judges. I was hoping and praying Wandy would get the nodd but, I was expecting it to go Franklins way. Just like mania said, Franklin won it with the take down at the very end.
by pwilson on Jun 13, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wandy gassed after the first round. think the cut in weight at his age for the first time was too much for him. still put on a great fight. by far the more exciting fighter. gave rich the first round. wandy the second and third. even joe rogan gave him 2 rounds. he was robbed. wat goes around comes around. rich lost a decision to hendo which i think he won. dont think wandy cares about the result. u can see he is only fighting for the fans. i think the iceman nd wandy should have a retirement match for the fans. go out in a brawl. call it a day after that.
thought davis should have got the decision .
cain has some chin. not very powerful doh. hammered congo.
very disappointed with cro cop. not one leg kick
by Stonecold on Jun 13, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With Cain he is a good fighter but kongo made him look good because kongo groundgame is still horrible. If cain were to fight lesnar,Carwin,maybe even gonzaga he would get destroyed. Why? Because with lesnar and carwin it would be like edgarvs maynard size with wrestlers does matter. And lesnar and carwin are way more dangerous strikers. I think his next fight should be Gonzaga. Lets see how good he does with a jitsu guy with good standup. Since Silva lost it open the fight for gsp vs anderson silva if they both win. Cro cop look pretty much the same he better pick his opponents wisely. Think hardy climbed up to the top 12 or top 15. Spencer fisher isnt the same striker when facing wrestlers. And I knew saunders was going to lose i know it says he is 8-0 but he lost two fights in the ultimate fighter.
by desperus on Jun 13, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gonzaga would be a great next fight for Cain. Silva v GSP would be awesome. I would put Hardy a couple spots higher. He looked impresive, taking very little damage against a dangerous opponent.
by RedDog on Jun 13, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really frustrating watching kongo dominate the stand-up and have cain close to finished twice….only to have to sit through the remainder of the fight watching cain take kongo down and not even look close to finishing him. The guy had full mount countless times and still couldn’t get the job done… Don’t get me wrong Kongo is a very tough opponent who i don’t think gets enough credit especially for taking a fight on short notice and then getting smothered for 14minutes with hammer fists raining. Carwin, Lesnar and even Couture would beat this kid.
by Jakizzle on Jun 13, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to remember, cains a baby. hes been training for just three years. Hard to develop top contender skills that fast
by medecine balls on Jun 13, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. but thats what you have to deal with when people claim you are the best fighter in the history of the planet cause of you performance in training camp. lesnar has only been training for three years also, and though i dont love the guy, he would eat velasquez’s soul at this point. welcome to the heavyweight div. an asterix beside everybody’s name. haha.
by Hardcase on Jun 13, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
despite Kongo losing the fight, I’m almost more proud of how it went down because we got to see how big his heart is. Kongo just will never go away! For as relentless as Cain was beating him with ground n’ pound, Kongo was even moreso for enduring it and still getting back to his feet time after time despite being as gassed as he was.
I think this fight is going to turn Kongo around, not that he was going in a completely wrong direction, I just think it’s going to give him that last little push that he needs to complete his game. Once Kongo gets the wrestling technique down he’s going to be unbeatable. Because right now all he’s going off of is pure strength and power.
The thing about Kongo is no one is ever going to finish him. You see his toughness, his overall power/strength to keep on coming despite getting completely owned… he’s a beast and that’s why I love him.
WAR Kongo! I know you’ll be better than ever after this fight.
by Anthony on Jun 13, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good afternoon of fights. Cro Cop is the man. I seen it going to wandy via split. Cain looked good on the ground but has along way to go before i would say he is a top 5 HW.
by Xsjado on Jun 13, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me estoy bajando la de Cro Cop, cuando termine de bajarse la subo a Megaupload si eso.
Gracias Emin!
http://mma-hits.com/fighters/rich-ace-franklin/ufc-99-wanderlei-silva-vs-rich-franklin/
by Wow on Jun 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea i was so impressed at how great cain was at dry humping a kickboxer for 15 minutes…fucking brilliant
people are saying this guy should be fighting carwin for the number 1 contender? are u fucking serious??
he should be fighting just to break the top 5 at best…
he should try to dry hump gonzaga first…then dry hump the winner of nogs/randy…before hes even considered a contender…
we’ll see what hes made of when he holds gonzaga down like that for 15 minutes…then tries to hold randy or nogs down for 15 minutes…then i’ll be impressed..
1. brock
2. mir
3. randy
4. nogs
5. carwin
6. gonzaga
he couldnt dry hump any of the guys above so how the fuck could this guy possibly be fighting for the number 1 contender when hes humber 7 at best?
by HellaHectic on Jun 13, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great night went 11-1 for the night still upset marcus didn’t win i had him winning 29-28 ud but i do see those cuts and blood played a factor
by bryant on Jun 13, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
carwin will rape the shit out of velasquez. like a blood-crazed wolverine. cain is the most overhyped fighter i’ve ever seen. not to say that he isnt a talented man, but he couldn’t finish a bag of chips based on his ground and pound showing here. no matter how good he is, he has zero tools to beat lesnar or carwin.
by Hardcase on Jun 13, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. I’d like to add a little more detail to the statement though cause you gave him too much credit. He couldn’t finish HALF a bag of chips.
by Kevin @ This is Broken Blog on Jun 14, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cro Cop has left the building and is off to dream
by Knockout5150 on Jun 13, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty good night of fights. TO all those that said Wand was robbed are crazy. Franklin tooke it too him in rounds one and three with a very good jab and left kick. Wand did have him hurt but there was a lot of time thats Wand had rubber legs like he did in round two i believe from franklins head kick. Also, mirko was not impressive at all. Im glad he is not coming back to the ufc. he can go fight the scrubs in dream and then get destroyed by overeem.
by gritchie4 on Jun 13, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just like Brock, Cain owned Kongo on the gorund for 3 rounds and atleast attempted some subs and Brock went on to be Champ!… Cain is not over-hyped and proved he can take a shot and own a top-10 HW in the UFC…
~~War Cain FTW~~
by ntvmma on Jun 13, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you ask me Cain is way over-hyped, he is the new breed of mark coleman imo. Kongo to me was just fighting stupid by clinching with Cain. I enjoyed the hardy/davis fight, other than that bleh
by rydinlow on Jun 13, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And just like the 1st time ntvmma, Mir is gonna make Brock look like an amateur.
by rydinlow on Jun 14, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I thought the fights sucked. All of them sucked except Rich and Wandi.
Davis vs. Hardy = Davis owned Hardy on the ground but Hardy did more damage. They both suck and will never be top fighters so who cares who won? End of story.
Fisher vs. Uno = Neither of them did anything, Uno beat Fishers ass for 30 seconds at the end of Rnd 3 and should have won for that. To all the people saying Uno had failed takedown attemps, I tell you that DEFENSE shouldn’t count on score cards. In all other sports, you have to score points to win. Uno beat his ass for 30 seconds (which was the only action in the entire fight). Have to score it based on that.
Swick vs. Saunders = Saunders is a pansy bitch who doesn’t deserve to fight in the UFC again. Period.
Cro Cop = Turk = The eye poke ended the fight. It was probably going to end by knockout, get knockout of the night, and be one of the only exciting fights but the eye poke killed those pipe dreams. Sucks for Turk and Cro Cop is a bitch for lying to Dana.
Kongo vs. Velasquez = Cain sucks for not being able to submit a guy that knows nothing about Jiu Jitsu and left his limbs and neck completely exposed for 15 minutes. He also has no chin. Kongo should be suspended until he learns how to sprawl.
Franklin vs. Silva = Silva has lost too many fights in recent months, I don’t think Franklin was a good move for him. He should have completed his move to middleweight, beat someone’s ass, and then made a come back (only to get stopped by Silva and then retire). Now he has to do all that but with an extra loss on his record. Waste. of. time. Franklin looked gassed. Don’t see that very often. Getting old?
I don’t know. One good fight on a card that should have been one of the best. For me it was a let down. I’m looking forward to 100 and 101 where there might actually be some action.
by Kevin @ This is Broken Blog on Jun 14, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree with everything you said, great post.
by attakdog on Jun 14, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
u stole the words out of my mouth kev…i was extremely disappointed about cc and wand..damn!!!
by gaara on Jun 14, 2009 3:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uno clearly won the fight. what bs. rogen knew it too. racist judges.
by jack on Jun 14, 2009 4:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really thought Uno was a little more agressive. He was pressing to impose his will, and Spencer was merely looking to prevent him from doing so, Spencer was not looking to impose his own will on Uno.
I’m sure there may be a good reason for Cro Cop leaving for Japan again, I hope he realises he has really let down the fans who were looking forward to the Cro Cop of old come back and kick some ass in the big stage, instead he wants to go and fight in minor shows against lower ranked opponents. Oh well, to each his own.
Cain Velasquez-you are a bad motherfucker, you really are. That fight was absolute poetry to watch. Cain has so much potential its fucking mind shattering. For him to come out and completely dominate his first top ranked opponent like that was beautiful, and a testament to the will, strength and natural ability of Cain Velsaquez.
Wanderlei- You will be back man, keep your head up, you fought your heart out and you demonstrated your integrity and sportsmanship in accepting no excuses for the loss, even though Joe tried to put the words in your mouth. Fantastic fight to watch man, as always, you are fucking exciting.
Franklin-Did an excellent job in imposing his game plan and put his heart and will to fight on elucid display tonight, just amazing stuff.
Kongo-He will be back, he was outgrappled by one of the best grapplers in the heavyweight division and still had the guts to throw hard and rock him a few times.
Al Turk-Dont really think he is ready for the UFC yet. He should get one more courtesy fight from them and if he loses he will be released to go and grab a few more wins under his belt.
Hardy-Woooooooo!!!! Hardy!!!!
Marcus Davis-the Plastic Irishman will be back. This loss has got to fucking sting for the poor bloke. Oh well, such is life being an MMA fighter.
by rhys on Jun 14, 2009 6:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is the gayest comment ive ever seen.
the ufc fighter wont read this, so why would you write ‘wanderlei – you will be back man’.
maybe the gayest thing ive ever read.
on a seperate note, kongo clearly is only good against strikers – maybe he should go to K1 (im a fan, but he seriously needs to train with some wrestlers, something there clearly isnt much of at the wolfslair)>
by ben on Jun 14, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points ben about the gayness and Kongo going to K1.
by attakdog on Jun 14, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gutted all the UK cans won on the card, that means we’re guaranteed to see the exact same fighters on the next UK card for like the 12th time in a row. Hardy, Etim,Taylor, Kelly, now Hathaway zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz BORING!!!!!!!
Worse result was Hardy winning against the plastic paddy journeyman Davis, now Dana’ll think he can headline a UK show with that idiot Hardy and not bother bringing over any top fighters, much like 95. UFC 104 Main Event – Hardy vs Swick, you heard it here first!!
by attakdog on Jun 14, 2009 7:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CAIN you say “WHOS YOUR DADDY” that was close to the GSP beating of BJ Penn!!! The only thing that surprized me last night was the fact that Ben Saunders didnt do a dam thing out there, I was disappointed in his effort. Besides that everything went as planned. I loved watching Davis get his face smashed in by Hardy, NICE BACKNE MARCUS, DOING A LITTLE JUICE EH!!! Oh yea even a better sport in there. Some of these guys are just classes clowns and Marcus proved that last night.
by the spyder on Jun 14, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Davis is the classless clown of the 2…not Hardy?
by MMAMoneyLine on Jun 14, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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