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Medical suspension following Strikeforce loss postpones Andrei Arlovski June 27 boxing debut

Former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski will not be medically cleared in time to make his professional boxing debut on June 27 at The Staples Center in Los Angeles, California, on the undercard of the Victor Ortiz vs. Marcos Maidana fight on HBO according to Sherdog.com.

Under the tutelage of world renowned boxing trainer Freddie Roach, who has been working with "The Pitbull" over the past year or so to help him improve his striking, Arlovski had signed with Oscar De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions to take a crack at the sweet science after coming up short in his WAMMA world title fight against champion Fedor Emelianenko back on January 24 at Affliction: "Day of Reckoning."

With former boxing champion Michael Moorer by his side, Arlovski accepted a short-notice bout against Strikeforce heavyweight wrecking ball Brett "The Grimm" Rogers at the June 6 "Lawler vs. Shields" event to satisfy the last fight on his Affliction contract (Affliction sponsored his appearance).

Things didn't exactly go as planned.

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"The Pitbull" was put down just 22-seconds into the fight by an aggressive and hard-hitting Rogers. While no injuries were reported, the suspension will remain in effect, forcing the popular Belarusian to postpone his boxing debut until later this year.

He was originally rumored to be making his debut last September in the opening fight on the Casamayor vs. Marquez card in on an HBO pay-per-view (PPV) telecast against an unnamed opponent.

While that bout, as well as an attempt to get him on the undercard of the Paul Williams vs. Winky Wright event on April 11 didn’t materialize, Roach was eager to get him lined up after the Emelianenko fight, even mentioning a possible throwdown with current WBA heavyweight title holder Nikolai Valuev.

Fortunately cooler heads prevailed.

Arlovski has always been considered one of the top strikers in mixed martial arts, but it’s anybody’s guess as to how that talent would transfer over to a world championship boxing match against a monster like Valuev. Or any pro boxer for that matter.

The loss to Rogers certainly isn't helping his case.

Time will tell.

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Poor guy can’t catch a break…I don’t care what he says about his chin…the dude’s lost his confidence and will never be the same and more importantly, his opponents will never see him the same either.

by McArthur on Jun 10, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

It’ll take him a few fights to get the aggression that he showed against Rothwell and Big Country back; assuming he ever does get that back. I’d have to agree though, I don’t think he’ll ever be the same again. As far as the chin question goes, I don’t know. He’s fighting at HW, these guys weigh in upwards of 240 lbs most the time; if they rap you on the chin with a solid shot it really doesn’t matter who you are; you’re going down.

by O damn he got caught on Jun 10, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

too true OD…too true

by McArthur on Jun 10, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe boxing a couple of cans will help him regain some confidence. As long as his hand gets raised, it can only help. Then he needs to get back to workin his sambo.

Still pulling for the pitbull. Hope he snaps out of his funk.

by Cole on Jun 10, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

from the interviews I have heard of Arlovski after the Grim fight he seems to be in the right frame of mind. He sounds a lot better than he did after Sylvia had Ko’ed him because you could see that he had lost his confidence even in his interviews.

Hopefully he is ok mentally. If He is, he needs to regroup, and dedicate on implementing a well rounded arsenal to his game plan. He has the skills of a well rounded fighter. Time to go back to the basics and start using them again!

by john on Jun 10, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah the only real problem with Arlovski is his defense and it’s a big problem, he needs to move his head and get in some bobbing and weaving and start throwing more leather and power punches so that his opponents respect him!…
He should go and take some lessons from Rampage on how to defend himself!

by RoB on Jun 11, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being out of chicago, Andre should seek out Miguel Torres and start working on his all around game. I think Torres could really help him out.

by Cole on Jun 11, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

His defence better get good enough to stop him from getting hit with a half decent punch, because when he does get hit he will crumble and fall. There is no training that can help him take a descent shot on the chin. He has had some descent victories, but he beat most of the guys to the punch and displayed good technique, and never raelly eneded up taking a solid shot, but it appears wheh his skills let him down and he does get hit he just doesn’t posses what it takes to keep on going like the Lebans, Nate Diazs’ even Gurgel could get hammered in the face and keep going. Dennis Stonjic also displayed a chin of granite in his match against Cain Velasquez.

by Ade on Jun 12, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

if that’s the case, then what you ’re saying is there are no standup exchanges in the heavyweight division? Everybody would be getting knocked out with one punch? Brock vs Herring, Brock lands a solid right hand but crazy horse is still there for all three rounds, Big Tim lands a heavy right hand on Nog and floors him, but Nog comes back and submits Timmy,again I will ask the question has AA ever recovered from a big punch without getting knocked out? It seems whenever he gets hit, the fights over. Still a good solid fighter though.

by Robert(1) on Jun 10, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but here’s the thing Robert, there are not many punches that actually lands clean even if it may look like it… It has to do with how they move and if they see the punch coming

by RoB on Jun 11, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I accept that but AA seems to get knocked out by anything no matter where it lands….Roger’s first punch was a grazing shot…I see fighter;’s take those all the time….AA can still be an animal and I hope he comes back!

by Robert(1) on Jun 11, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, the first 3 punch’s didn’t even land; they just backed AA up against the cage and he had nowhere to go, the grazing punch you’re talking about is just that; a grazing punch it didn’t put him away, it was the two that followed it while his back was up against the cage that put him away. Watch the fight again on MMAlinker; those were solid shots.

And thanks RoB; thats pretty much all I have to say about the KO; it’s all situational, right place/right time, obviously getting caught with a hook right on the jaw or the temple has a greater chance of KOing someone than getting caught on the cheek; some guys roll well with the punch’s and avoid the resulting KO, some of em just don’t see it coming, some of the punch’s thrown aren’t full force, some of them graze off the forearm before connecting and lose some force etc… etc… Thats why every punch landed isn’t a KO punch.

by O damn he got caught on Jun 11, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

When u lose twice to Tim Sylvia, u got problems. Can u say over-rated.

by Tony C on Jun 10, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Tough break, ’09 is a sh!tty year for Arlovski, hope things get better for him.

by O damn he got caught on Jun 10, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

just making sure he doesn’t get ko’d twice in a month!

by kevin on Jun 10, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I guess, but it still has to suck though.

by DSmith on Jun 10, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know AA has a better arsenal than he uses. From the Silvia fights and on to Affliction, Elite XC and Strikeforce, he ONLY uses boxing. He never goes to the ground. The last Silvia fight was like 5 rds of pure agony watching 2 guys just jab each other to death. I don’t understand some of these guys. They have a complete arsenal and only utilize one of their styles…can you say Sean Sherk? Blows me away.

by slim473 on Jun 10, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Couldn’t agree more, watching Sherk vs Edgar was one of the most frustrating things I’ve had to sit through in a long time.

by O damn he got caught on Jun 10, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

obviously you haven’t seen an episode of “Im a celebrity Get Me Outta Here” yet…talk about frustrating to sit through

by McArthur on Jun 10, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

WTF is “I’m a Celebrity Get Me Outta Here”?

by Dragon on Jun 10, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dragon…ya don’t want to know. Lets just forget I brought it up. In my own defence we only have one decent TV in my house for a couple more weeks so I am forced to watch whatever “she” wants half the time

by McArthur on Jun 10, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel ya man. I’ve been sucked into The Bachelorette. Has anyone beaten the crap out of those two whiny d-bags from The Hills yet?

by PW on Jun 10, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel your pain re The Bachelorette PDubs…I always laugh when I hear them say “OH, I didn’t think it would be this hard”…OMG!!! I feel like driving my truck right through the front door Stallone style from “Over the Top”

by McArthur on Jun 10, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to watch the US I’m A Celeb this year because the UK show is usually pretty funny and Torrie Wilson is a contestant but as soon as I heard that those two aholes from the Hills and Janice Dickinson were in it as well I thought better of it.

by David W-S on Jun 10, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torri Wilson is a babe!!
apparently Heidi got so sick that she threw up about 40 times and was close to “death” lol, they felt like they were mistreated by the production team..

by RoB on Jun 11, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, I thought Edgar had pretty decent striking in that match. Sherk is hard to KO though due to that compact muscle and great cardio but his boxing skills are very amateur at best… He follows the rules OK but then I can’t think of any champion boxers who have stuck religiously to the rulebook (i.e. Jones Jr, Nazeem Hamed etc had very unorthodox styles but were untouchable for much of their careers, at least until they got sloppy).

by Jimrod on Jun 10, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, but after the 1st rd, would you not have said to yourself “man, my stand up ain’t cuttin’ it, let’s try something else”? The same with AA. He comes out so f-ing predictable anymore. With MMA having progressed so fast, I just can’t imagine that any fighter wouldn’t want to come out predictable if he has the training and arsenal to do so. If AA came out and shot in to take down Rogers, I think the outcome could have been different. Same with Sherk. His size alone should have played a major factor in the Edgar fight. You’re size doesn’t mean a whole lot in the stand up if you can’t hit the guy, but on the ground, different story…

by slim473 on Jun 10, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh agreed 100%, I was speaking more in praise of Edgar and about how Sherk hasn’t got “the skills”.

It seems to me that MMA evolves every couple of years or so. To start BJJ was king, then the Wrestlers started to improve their GnP and they dominated – Now it’s the strikers turn – they’ve learned the BJJ and Wrestling and can nullify it. The current crop – Machida, Silva, St Pierre are all phenomenal strikers. Heavyweights are an odd one for me, freakish size and power can be a factor – Foreman’s return to boxing showed that, no other weight class would have a 50 year old competing at the top level.

For me the jury is out on Penn at the moment, research in all top level sport shows the very best train 8 hours a day, every day, regardless of their sport to keep that “eye of the tiger”, once you lose it and lose the willpower to keep up that kind of training it is very easy to get on a downward slope – as has become very apparent with old champions in the last few months.

by Jimrod on Jun 10, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, true…I’ve never been convinced of BJ for some reason. He talks quite a bit, and complains a whole lot, but it just seems that he only brings his A game once in awhile. The present group of older fighters either evolve with the sport, or die with their bread and butter. Liddell, Pulver, Ortiz, Wandy, etc, etc…Couture seemed to understand this and continue to adapt his game, hence him being sucessful against the new breed of fighters. I’m curious to see how machida’s impact on the sport changes things in years to come. I’m jacked by the prospect of this sport getting back to more martial arts than wrestling, which was my original draw in the first place.

by slim473 on Jun 10, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely! :) Black belt in Karate and Tae Kwon Do here, as well as a fair bit of Kickboxing and Aikido experience – I’ve never been keen on the wrestling side of MMA, ground and pound (or lay ’n pray as most of the Wrestlers seem to be doing lately) lacks the finesse or skill I appreciate. Saying that, the Wrestlers can be very skilful of course, just not seen anyone outstanding recently…

by Jimrod on Jun 10, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ: “Take him down, Andy!”

repeat 50x

by Pat on Jun 10, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems to me, all this started when he started running around with that model hottie.

Freddie Roach seems to be a big help, he has gotten his ass kicked twice in less than 3 or 4 minutes.

Andre, take The Slovak’s advice, just run around the cage for a round next time, you’ll last longer.

by The Slovak on Jun 10, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, but she offered up her sloppy seconds to Big Poopy, and it hasn’t caused him to get KTFO recently.

by PW on Jun 10, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you talking Big Papi of the Sox? I didn’t know that, if so, sh*t, she destroyed his year already too.

Guy is hitting below the Mendoza line, and has 6 more home runs than I do i think?????

by The Slovak on Jun 10, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The question is not why is he getting knocked out? It’s why is he getting hit? Can say Chuck Lidell?

by mikehunt on Jun 10, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

id love it if he would stop training with roach and the other boxers and show up at extreme couture or greg jackson’s camp. dude has to realize that its just not working. he also really didnt look that good against big country. hmm . . . what if he started training with machida, anderson, and big nog.

by COR on Jun 10, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesse, so this past weekends fight with Strikeforce did count as the last fight on his contract with Affliction? If that is so, why didn’t the Nelson fight with EliteXC count towards the contract?

Either way, I’m glad the contract is up. I’m a fan of Affliction and Strikeforce, and there are some great fights for him in those organizations, but I’m ready to see him back in the Octagon. After hearing him talk last night, he knows he’s been missing something (sounded like it’s an anger when he fights, which I think is what he’s missing as well) and he’s gonna make sure he gets it right.

Next time he steps in to fight someone, he needs to show no mercy, beat the living mess out of who ever it is. Unleash all the frustration. Andrei needs to get back to where people fear him again. Brett certainly was not afraid of Andrei this past weekend. Back when he was the UFC champ, guys were intimidated by him. It could have been his appearance with the hair and the fangs and the fact he was wrecking people, but he’s got to get that back. He did say he’s been thinking about growing his hair back out. Not saying that will help anything, but he’ll look like a beast again.

by Craig on Jun 10, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking on the strikeforce show, anyone know what how much AA got paid? I’m curious to see if how much affliction paid for there advertisement?

by el jefe on Jun 10, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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