Yeah! That’s a nice fight right there. It has detonation written all over it. OK I guess Wanderlei winning ain’t that bad, hehe! anderson-wanderlei has detonation written all over it.

hey kev..just relax man!! uhm!! wel i also see spider koing axe..but all it takes is one punch from axe…u have said it yourself..its all pressure..

yeah, but all it takes is one knee, punch or kick from Anderson too and he has about a 95% better chance at landing those shots..

LMFAO seriously? Vera? What a douche. lol

I want to see rich fight guys like:
Forrest
Banha Cane
Thiago Silva
Jardine
and YES even Vera (stylistically it would be entertaining)

Win or lose against Wanderlei, one of those fighters is the next appropriate step for Franklin

Maybe Vera AND Tiger White vs Rich then

I think you guys are being too hard on Vera. I’ve been critical of his performances lately as well, but I think the big weight cuts he was making really affected him. He looked kind of sickly against Andy and Jardine.

Vera is an excellent striker, and his speed and kicks could make for some exciting fights, especially against a gamer like Rich.

u guys hate vera but lov cane, wat the fuck cane has terrible coditioning an dhas been ok so far..

You guys are laughing at Vera but I bet any one of you wouldn’t land a cean punch in 5 mins and also get KTFO in the process if you were to fight him. John’s right, he’s a nice match stylistcally. It has detonation written all over it.

john to respond to ur matchup i reckon forrest would outwork Rich and gain UD, couldnt call it between rich and banha, rich would beat thiago, and rich would outwork JArdine and possbily Vera…but all great fights if they were to happen – would love to see Banha vs Rich!

I think Rich would take Forest, because Forest can’t hurt him badly with his strikes and Rich’s conditioning is probably even better than Forest’s.

^…clean punch…

I have always liked Vera, He is a top fighter and if it’s become popular to be a vera hater on this website then you can all suck my b*lls. After he finishes Hamill and maybe one more guy you will see the same dudes who are dissing him now singing his praises. It will be exactly like the Machida situation because these lowlife wishy washy “fans” change their favorite fighters like the wind changes direction. Slim473, Dragon and even Violentmike, I will be lmao in 6 months when you guys change your tune. “Fans” like you guys make me laugh, and throw up in my mouth at the same time.

I was saying that could be his road to a title shot, littered with great matchups along the way. If he won all of those, who would deny him a title shot?

I didn’t intend to say that Vera was a “top” 205 pounder, but he will for sure be in the mix soon. I dont get all the hate on him. Sure he hit a dry spell, but based on his most recent performance I think that spell is over.

I’ve never really thought of myself as a Vera fan, Vera is a pretty exciting fighter to me when hes in shape, and I would definitely watch any fight hes in. So I guess I am a fan.

JRE, I have been loving Machida since his 2nd UFC fight against David Heath.

As for Vera, ever since his UFC debut when he called out Chuck and said he would be the first ever simultaneous HW and LHW champ, after beating who, Fabiano Scherner???? (not looking up)

Trust me JRE, I am not a bandwagon jumper – you can ask the regs. HOWEVER, my opinions are often biased towards my favorites and against my least favorites.

Also JRE, I’d be willing to wager (if possible) that I have watched considerably more MMA than you. Next time, come correct if you want to call me out. MAN, I wish I saw your backhanded comment earlier.

PS Machdida will be champ for a looooong time and you will be crying because you are one of the few that STILL think he’s boring.

I agree with you on the Hendo fight, but as for having the tools to win the belt, Lyoto says otherwise.

And to a certain guy called the Dragon or something…Ah, Lyoto Machida is his name.

I can’t wait until Machida gets KO’d and all the undue nut hugging starts to die off

I know, OD.

I mean, all the guy’s done is go 15-0 while never losing a round. He just destroyed the undefeated champion who’d never been knocked out. What are people so impressed with?

Know what I can’t wait for? Machida embarrasing and destroying Shogun and Rampage. Then I won’t have to read any more of your negative and biased posts about one of the classiest and most dominant fighters the sport has ever seen.

You’re a great poster man, but just man up and admit you were wrong about Machida. Then you’ll be able to sit back and enjoy his fights.

The nut hugging is necessary. Lyoto has proven that every true MMA fans should be dangling from his nuts. The one’s that aren’t, are just made because Lyoto either defeated thier favorite fighter, or they still don’t understand that the objective of a fight is to inflict maximum damage while taking as little damage as possible. The only other knock on Machida that he went to decisions to often. Well, now that he is also strength training, he is KO’ing fools with a quickness.

Rich’s game really hasn’t advanced all that much over the years, he is basically the same fighter that improves a little bit, and occasionally doesn’t have a black eye before a fight. However, since they fought, Lyoto has improved 10 fold. They fought so long ago, that Machida wasn’t even studying the majority of the fighting styles that make up MMA.

If Machida is champ, Rich has NO chance at beating him. A decent striker with no wrestling skills will NEVER beat Lyoto. It will have to be someone with Forrest length monkey arms, Rampage 1 punch KO power on a lucky blow, or a solid wrestler than can attempt to dry hump him to a decision win.

Been huggin his nuts since April 21st 2007. That makes me a 2.25 year nut hugger and proud of it!!!!

Not from me I will still be swingin’ on those giant Brazilian balls. lol

Lol JJ, unfortunatley my negative posts about Machida probably aren’t going to stop; I gave the man his props, never said he couldn’t fight or wasn’t a good fighter; but I’m not on the wagon. Basically whoever he fights, unless I really really can’t stand the other guy, I’ll be rooting for the other guy.

WAR OTHER GUY!!

All I know is that I have been a fan for even longer than VM, so I been swinging from his sack for over 2.25 year nut.

Franklin can compete with anyone at LHW. I wont ever say that he doesnt belong in the cage with anyone at 205 lbs…but he wont ever win the title. Sorry, im just keeping it real.

He is very well rounded, but so is everyone else in the division. I still think he is tough enough to be a contender in a Main event fight.

Hahaha, fair enough pal.

I guess I’ll try to stomach them until you either come to your senses or are forced (by Machida cleaning out the division) to hop on the Lyoto War Wagon!

If it wasn’t for a guy named Anderson, Franklin would be best suited to 185 pounds. I agree with John, he will be a perennial contender at LHW but never the champ. He is good at everything but great at nothing.

Besides, how do you know the guys classy all he ever says is:

“I drink my urine”
“I have the warrior spirit of the Samurai”
“No one can defend my style”

might repackage that and word it differently but what else does he ever come up with??

He seems to really appreciate the fans and the sport and is always respectful to his opponents after he embarrasses them.

Plus he wears a gi and drinks Brazilian Mountain Dew, which should solidify his awesomeness in the eyes of all doubters. ;-)

Sorry to end your silly debate. Its obvious that Machida is GREAT. tHERE iTS SEttled! Sily Debate over!!

Speaking of greatness, I got some very interesting stats on Fedor the GOd:

If you look at the UFC over history, if you include the interim heavyweight champions, they’ve had 17 champions in total (hw division). Mr. Fedor Emelianenko has done eight fights against UFC champions, against five different opponents. If we exclude his fights against Mr. Nogueira, who was a formidable opponent in his time, Fedor spent less than 15 minutes in the ring with these UFC champions and defeated them all.

Fedor has basically shitted on the UFC heavyweight title and the men that wore it at 1 time or another

LOL, you’ve been reading the M-1 guy’s invitation to Dana and co, huh john?

It is an awesome statistic, but you might want to cite that quote or put it in quotations if it isn’t something you originally wrote. :-)

I can’t wait for Fedor to come into the UFC so he can finally lose. Every single HW fighter in the UFC has a chance on beating him.

Even more than the guy who is fighting fedor next.
I think his name is Barnett.

Btw, they are FORMER Champions for a reason. ;)
The competition is a lot tougher now. :)

Bleh, that wasn’t really a debate, just a little bashing on my part lol.

Natas: “I think his name is Barnett”

I’m hoping thats sarcasm; otherwise I can’t even take that opinion seriously

your right o dam, if that guy dosn’t even know who he is talking about he should not comment cause barnett would be at the top of the ufc if he where there.

Dana White on Cro Cop’s one-fight deal: “I’ve never done this with anybody ever.”

What about Royce Gracie? Is it just me or is Dana completely full of shit again.

what is up with you homo’s expessing that your a fan by saying you “swing on his nuts” or “hug his Nuts”? Seriously what is that? Are you guys really openly gay or is it like a closet case situation? Or are you really staight and you just like balls? I just enjoy the fights and yes I am a big fan of alot of fighters but wtf does that have to do with nuts? maybe your all trying to be cool or funny or to fit in but I just find it childish. Which is it John? Violent mike? wtf is your guys’ obsession with male genitalia? There are so many ways of supporting your fighters, you guys just always focus on scrotal contact. LOL

Dana’s always full ’o shite..

what Dana said what that he had never made a one fight deal with someone over the phone, so maybe that’s the truth…
About Machida, he probably won’t lose a round until he gets knocked out or submitted…
Tito was pretty close to winning round 3 against him, if it had not been for that knee but then he came back with a triangle so it was still close..

JRE: Please get off the horse (cocaine or high horse, whichever you’d prefer); just cause your miserable w/o a sense of humour doesn’t mean everyone else has to be. Your post oozes insecurity. It’s a JOKE, get off it; no one here is going to get down on their knees and start sucking d!ck just cause of a catch phrase. And even if they did and that was their preference who gives a sh!t; are you that concerned with someone else’s orientation?

JJ: Dana is completely full of crap again!

Of course I didnt come up with that Stat myself JJ! When I try to quote other sites or post a link, Mania usually doesnt post it….so I avoid doing it, especially since I bet anything that Mania will make a thread about it with in the next couple of days!

Yea Dana won’t do a 1 fight deal with Fedor though, LOL. I think he figured Royce had no chance of winning, so no risk involved, and then with Cro Cop if he loses Dana can cut him and if he wins then Dana can take it from there. Waiting for a reporter to jump on this and ask Dana “Why are you willing to do a 1 fight deal with Cro Cop, but unwilling to do the same with Fedor??”

JRE, little kids like yourself like to call posters that like a particular fighter a “nut-hugger”. So instead of waiting for the immature comments to come, I figure if I refer to myself as one, the comments won’t come.

And what do you have against male genitals??? Were you molested as a child?

I am comfortable with my sexuality. Straight and married. How you doin?

Odamn: I have been thinkingt he same exact thing. One of these reporters gotta get the balls to ask him.

He lost to Hendo, and never have a win over top fighters…just look at his record,

Wand TKO 1Rnd

CL, Rich is infamous for coming to his fights with a black eye.

If he comes to this fight with a mangled nose, we can guess how the sparring with Anderson went.

Okay, but still, do you think he gets his contract scrapped for losing a catch weight fight to Wandy. Its not exactly a do or die situation for rich is what I’m saying. Of course no one ever wants a loss.

Nice Mike.

Rich is 35. A loss to Wandy would mean he’d need a minimum of 2-3 wins vs top level guys to even be mentioned as a possibility for a title shot. Bare in mind Rich is a former champ. I’m quite certain his idea of success at this stage of his career means nothing less than being in the hunt for a title. This is why I believe he cannot afford losing to Wandy, not because his contract is in jeopardy or anything like that. Wandy’s situation is very similar. These guys are used to the lofty heights of the sport. Being aging gate-keeper types with UFC contracts will not work for either of them…trust me.