WEC 41: Urijah Faber has a hand in Mike Brown's June 7 victory (Pic)

Wow, props to Urijah for fighting through that. I would’ve been crying like a little girl and running home.

by FHC on Jun 8, 2009 5:16 AM EDT reply actions

yeah, he deserves props, but with all the adrenaline going through him during a fight, I bet that he barely even felt it!

by john on Jun 8, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions

False. Catecholamines help but testicular fortitude helps more

by kukuxumusu on Jun 8, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions

It was obvious he was in some pretty serious pain from the second round on. It looked terrible on TV when he took his glove off.

by PW on Jun 8, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions

oh, my bad, I stand corrected…I didnt get a chance to watch the fight yet, so I guess I probably shouldnt be commentating on it!

by john on Jun 8, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions

It looked like he had a baseball on the back of his hand. Well, maybe a racketball. Still pretty swollen and gruesome-looking.

by PW on Jun 8, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions

*Banuelos/Jorgensen
this was fight of the year John. Submissions, transitions scrambles, fast paced and too close to judge!
Faber getting fight of the night…he got dominated…what because he broke his hand??

by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions

yea, that was a very good fight. not sure about fight of the year but better than the faber brown fight for sure.

BTW, i like that mike campbell kid. He ended up getting caught but i was impressed how he rolled out of that armbar.

Kevin, I agree with that GSP/Diaz fight. I’d love to see it. So far Coker seems like a good guy to run a promotion, I hope he has the balls to make Diaz and Shields fight each other. Diaz would smash him.

by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, as I said yesterday, Shields is extremely lucky how close he and Nick are! Nick and Jake’s BJJ is equal, but Nick’s stand up is leaps and bounds better than Jake!

by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Did Faber also break his left hand too????

If not, then why did he only throw lefty open hand strikes (b*tch slaps) and right/left elbows???

I think that he damaged his left, or he simply likes to slap people.

Fighters break their hands quite often in fights, and the tough ones, continue to throw their fight.

If I had a fighter going against Faber, I would have them implement the “Gladiator” stategy – not the Russell Crow movie, the old school boxing move with Brain Dennahee and some blonde kid last named “Riley” in the movie. That was my favorite movie as a kid. Anyone else seen this movie????

Well, the strategy used for a bare knuckle fight is to look toward the ground when the opponent throws a straight punch because they break thier hand on your cranium.

by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions

yes Mike, we saw it! Faber is a tough kid, but the fight wasn’t close. He didn’t want to get hit and was back peddling, looking scared from the get go. Turn the sound off (mute Florian’s slurping of Faber) and you’ll see the fight wasn’t close. I actually said to y wife “average fans think Faber is winning just because of the commentating!”

by kevin on Jun 8, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Mike: I thoght of the same thing during the fight. Great movie!!

by BOW on Jun 8, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

yea, in the post fight interview, Faber said he hurt both hands, but his right was clearly mangled.

I picked Lawler to win that fight cuz i thought he’d be too strong and Jake wouldn’t be able to take him down. The fight was going just like i thought it would and if Lawler gets out of the first Jake wuold have gotten tired of trying to take him down and lawler would have beaten him down. Props to Jake for adapting and pulling guard but i’m real sick of guillotine chokes. They end potentially great fights early all the time. Lawler needed to have better awareness and keep his range for a round or 2 and stay out of the clinch. He was hesitant to let his hands go so he wouldn’t get taken down.

BTW, those hammerhouse guys don’t let their hands go anymore. Both Randleman and Baroni barely threw any punches. For guys that have punches as their only weapon it’s horrible to watch them fight timid.

by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions

Kev, the fight of the night award is a joke!

by BOW on Jun 8, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions

This is reminiscent of one baby prodigy or even a legendary shammy. Don’t put out the x-rays. We get it you broke your hand. You don’t have to convince us that it hindered your perfomance. Now everyone who scored the 3rd round for him is gonna be clamoring for a third match. He got drubbed by mike b. Let’s live with it and look forward to self declared P4P best Aldo fighting him.

by NameNotRequired on Jun 8, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I think it’s impressive the way Faber fought with that hand, and I am far from a butt-chin fan. He still tried to exchange and fight with his elbows. He may well have locked in a few submissions if it wasn’t for that hand.

I realize broken bones in the hand are common in fights, but they are typically just a hairline fracture or a knuckle or finger. That shit is snapped but good. Nasty.

by Jeremyjackson on Jun 9, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions

Are you serious you could see th epain on his face as soon as it happened. what fight were you watching?

by Kim on Jun 18, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Alright when is the 3match.

by flowwiththego on Jun 8, 2009 5:32 AM EDT reply actions

I give him credit for fighting through the injury, but from the looks of it, he will need surgery on that hand and will be on the shelve for a minimum 6 months. Brown has bigger things to worry about (A ruthless Aldo). When Faber returns he should have to get at least 2-3 quality wins before getting another shot. And having Jens come out of retirement to take another dive does not count.

by Cole on Jun 8, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions

I don’t know that he gets one so quickly. If he had won one of the two then it would be a sure bet, but losing both will probably not allow a 3rd fight. Reason being, if he wins the 3rd, then Brown would/should get a rematch and then that would be the 4th fight. I just don’t think we’ll see #3.

by BeerMan on Jun 8, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions

bottom line guys, is that after aldo, who do u have? Grispi, Garcia again, Torres coming up? Unless Torres comes up or Kid comes over, or Tyson Griffin comes down there’s not a whole lot of contenders. Faber will get another shot after 1 or 2 wins based on the lack of depth.

by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Forget Kid, after the DREAM tournament ends, the WEC should bring over JOE WARREN!!!!

Anyone else catch him in he background of last TUF episode when they were doing the fight announcements. He also shook someone’s hand as well.

by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions

yea, but Kid would be a bigger money fight and easier to market.

by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions

To be honest, after seeing Joe Warren fight Kid, I think either Urijah or Brown can easily take him down repeatedly and win a decision. They both have excellent submission defense as well.

However, standing, Kid is nasty. Just nasty.

F it. This is the fight I want to see: Kid Yamamoto vs Jose Aldo Jr. Now THAT is instant fireworks!!!!!!!!!

by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Broken hand or not Mike Brown has proven that he has evolved to a well rounded fighter since comin down to 145..Even though he did not get to finish an injured Urijah he’s even gonna be more of a threat if they fight the 3rd time.

by daftmania on Jun 8, 2009 5:43 AM EDT reply actions

Faber will beat Brown in a rematch… He’ll use his quickness and both hands and outstrike Brown and possibly submit him… It’s amazing what he did with just his elbows.. amazing

by DAVE A on Jun 8, 2009 5:55 AM EDT reply actions

Though Aldo will probably derail those plans if he fights Brown

by DAVE A on Jun 8, 2009 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions

amazing what he did??? miss the majority of his elbow attempts and get dominated for 20 minutes, save one sub opportunity. watch the fight again Dave, he gutted that fight out and adapted well but he did no damage and never had brown hurt. He should have thrown more kicks and stop wasting time with his ineffective front kick. He wasn’t even using it as a push kick, he was flinging it like he was gonna kick brown under his chin with his toes or something. He was using it just to keep range so he didn’t get busted up.

by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

CROWLS, Brown was able to overpower Faber in the early rounds. In the later rounds Faber couldn’t lock his hands for submission attempts and he had a few going. Faber couldn’t even attempt a double because it takes a lot of hand strength. Brown was in close enough to knock Faber out plenty of times but couldn’t finish the job (u didn’t see that? I watched the fight twice). Faber didn’t throw more leg kicks probably because he knew it wouldn’t win him the fight! Trying to connect with elbows to cut or KO was his best option. Gutsy and amazing… if u couldn’t tell that if his hand wasn’t broken he would have possibly outpointed Brown, I don’t know what else to say except watch that fight again with a fresh perspective. Just to let u know I predicted Brown would TKO Faber this fight by the 3rd rnd, Faber was adapting well to his strengths using his speed, agility and skills.

by DAVE A on Jun 8, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree, Faber will beat Brown the third time! I like both fighters but let’s face it Brown could not dispose of a one handed fighter when Faber broke his R. hand after the first round. A possible injured L. hand also. With his hand broken Faber could not even secure any type of submission. I believe if his hand was not broken he would have submitted Brown a few times during the fight when he had a chance especially in the last round with that guillotine choke. Brown was losing his strength from the 3rd rd.and on. He could not keep Faber on the ground when he had him there, where was his superior ground skills? Faber fought a smart fight by back peddaling to avoid Brown’s right hand. People say he was afraid but look how smart UFC chammpion Lyoto Machida is when fighting. Avoiding getting hit by any type of stike by back peddaling is not being afraid it’s part a fighter’s defense. Faber is a true champion, he fought with a broken hand for four rounds and utilized his other arsenals and made those four rounds close. Brown did not capitalize on it to dominate any round after Faber broke his hand. All I can say is Brown vs Faber III will be yet another exciting fight to wait for.

by RB on Jun 8, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Faber did back pedal in defense but stood toe to toe with Brown in many instances from the 3rd rnd on and made it exciting. It wasn’t like he was back pedaling and not fighting, he chose his spots often… he’s a Mixed Martial Artist not a toe to toe brawler.

by DAVE A on Jun 8, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

faber is a hack

by JRE on Jun 8, 2009 5:57 AM EDT reply actions

Is that really Urijah’s hand?

Much like Rich can and does beat everyone else at 185 but one guy, the same can be said for Urijah.

by Youtaped on Jun 8, 2009 6:08 AM EDT reply actions

Yup, thats really his hand. He posted a few more on his twitter.

by Rampage711 on Jun 8, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions

Urijah showed a lot of heart fighting 3+ rounds with just bows, knees, and straight up determination.. Gotta give the guy some major props, any other fighter in that situation probably would have been submitted during one of browns take-downs… Urijah is one elusive son of a bitch..

by Hook em up on Jun 8, 2009 7:26 AM EDT reply actions

Why? I have NEVER seen a fighter quick on the stool or tap out mid fight due to a broken hand. If you punch people in the head for living, your hand is bound to get broken. In my opinion, Urijah can not handle himself when he is losing a fight. For years he was used to dominating lackluster competition. Now the WEC finally has 2 fighters better than him and we will get to see what Faber is made of.

by ViolentMike on Jun 8, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions

Basically Faber fought with one arm against a guy that TKO’d him the last time. Faber hung in there with arguably the best 145lbr in the world. Faber showed that if his hand was not broken the Outcome would have been a lot closer 1 way or another(I think he would have won, I was rooting for Faber but thought Brown would TKO him by the 3rs). Yeah, Faber did fight lack luster competition, IMO though he destroyed them exactly like what a fighter should do of his caliber. I think last night we saw what Urijah was made of.

by DAVE A on Jun 8, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Why are people talking about a 3rd fight? Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Faber lose both fights against Brown? I mean if Faber beats down everyone in the division and there’s no one else then I guess so, but so soon?

by Tom on Jun 8, 2009 7:53 AM EDT reply actions

I don’t know if its the blind nuthuggery of Faber or the hating on Brown, but stop talking about a third fight, Brown worked Faber from start to finish.

Brown does not get the respect he deserves.

by Green Inferno on Jun 8, 2009 8:09 AM EDT reply actions

ditto to this, there’s no shame in losing, but the nuthuggery that’s followed is ridiculous. And Faber has to bring even more shame by posting these photos, was that necessary?

Hey Mom!

by kibbled_bits on Jun 8, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions

I also agree with this. And speaking of nuthuggery, how about the commentators last night. 90% of the time Kenny was talking about Urijah, and what he was doing, and needed to do to win the fight.

I thought Kenny thought he was winning until at one point he was asked who do you have winning the fight ( I think in the 4th) and he said Mike.

I thought that was pretty funny

by jtc2112 on Jun 8, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I know Inferno, this stuff is insane. However, look at the ppl who are posting that Faber would have won with a healthy hand and want to see a 3rd fight. It’s not the guys on this site who usually make good arguments and post knowledgably.

by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions

I definitely give him credit for fighting through that, but I think Brown would take Faber 9 out of 10 times. Too strong for him.

by Big Daddio on Jun 8, 2009 8:35 AM EDT reply actions

Are you serious? A broken RIGHT hand in the first round giving Brown a huge handicap, and yet Mike Brown couldn’t finish him off nor win a round convincingly….give me a break! You got your ratios switched around buddy

by MikeD on Jun 8, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions

totally agree. I don’t think anyone is trying to take anything away from Brown, but i seriously doubt that Brown wins last nights fight if Faber doesn’t break his hand. I think everyone had Faber winning the first round, and we’ll never know what really would have happened, but it’s reasonable to see Faber picking off a frustrated Brown for all 5 rounds. I don’t think Faber’s next fight is a title shot, but he definitely deserves an opportunity due to the broken hand. Major props to Faber for winning the fight. I wonder if Brown would have made it thru all 5 rounds had he been the one with a broken hand?

by kg on Jun 8, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions

scratch that typo……..congrats to Faber for finishing the fight, not winning the fight…….

by kg on Jun 8, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions

2-0 regardless.

by Big Daddio on Jun 8, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions

Except Brown won several rounds convincingly and dominated the fight! Faber got smoked last night, deal with it pal

by ---Caesar--- on Jun 8, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t care if he won…but to say Brown wins 9/10 times is pretty far-fetched. If Brown had a broken hand, I guarantee you Faber would’ve finished him off no question. I don’t dislike Brown, but I can’t will to see them fight again.

by MikeD on Jun 8, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions

I only got to see parts of the fight but I think Faber deserves another title shot. But I don’t think he should get a title shot right away. He should have to fight a few fights and win before he gets another shot. I thought Faber looked bigger than Brown but he wasn’t stronger.

by Anderson Silva on Jun 8, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions

I broke my hand the same way while sparring several years ago. I can’t believe he kept fighting, even though he knew it was over. I respected him before, but now even more. He’s a true fighter win or lose!

by sawyer on Jun 8, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions

fighting with a broken hand is serious. he no doubt wins the fight in the later rounds if not broken.

by kneetotheface on Jun 8, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions

absolute truth. i would take it a step further and say he stops brown in the fourth or fifth if he didn’t have the broken hand.

by JB on Jun 8, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions

yes urijah had brown in many chokes the he could finish because of his hand other than that urijah would have won the dission brown was getting upset early

by nickbrezy on Aug 29, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Most ridiculous comment I’ve read in a long time!!! Brown owned Fabber last night, he wins regardless!

by ---Caesar--- on Jun 8, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions

To those of you asking why some people want a 3rd battle, did you all actually WATCH the fight? Urijah was actually getting the better of the exchanges and was doing great, and then the hand situation happened. How the hell can you brag about Brown dominating when he couldn’t finish a guy w/ 2 broken hands? A 3rd fight would be amazing.

by Noel on Jun 8, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions

Yeah Noel, I don’t know what these guys are thinking, Faber was doing incredibly well without a right hand in the exchanges, Faber would have outpointed Brown in the 3rd to 5th round IMO. I watched the fight twice.

by DAVE A on Jun 8, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions

reconstructive surgery comming up! hope he’s not on the shelf for too long.

by mdr on Jun 8, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions

Faber taking the glove off in the cage, with immediate ice, lil to much theatrics for me. Just like him saying…“FU Brown, I would have whipped your Ass, but I broke my hand”.
I’m sure it hurt, but how many fighters have you seen do THAT?

California State Athletic Commission will not be happy with the stunt either, they can’t check the glove/verify the signature and see it wasn’t tampered/altered.

by holmz on Jun 8, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions

i’m sure the commission will not have a problem with it. The guy fought for 20 minutes with a busted hand, I’m sure he wanted they wanted to get a look at it and see what kind of damage was there. I bet someone looked at the wraps immediately before they cut them off.

by Crowls on Jun 8, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Holmz, I get u when u say u hate the theatrics. But Faber or the CSA is not going to protest that his equipment was tampered with, .. Faber is no BJ Penn.

by DAVE A on Jun 8, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Riggs broke both his hands and still was throwing bombs on Baroni.

I don’t see how this is a valid excuse.

Faber just got worked by Brown.

by DirtyML on Jun 8, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions

NO WONDER WHY LOST!! DAMN MAN… REMATCH!!

by JROK on Jun 8, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions

Faber is a warrior for completing the fight with a broken hand unlike cry baby Varner.

by anom on Jun 8, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions

There is a difference between a bone break and total destruction of your hand. You can’t compare all breaks and say he should fight through it. All you hacks couldn’t even type on your keyboards with a paper cut. He fought 4 rounds with a shattered right hand. Give him some respect. He lost. He never took nothing away from Brown but to say that the broken bone had no effect on the outcome is retarded.

by jjkid on Jun 8, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions

There is different extent to a broken hand. This one was obvioudsly bad if he cant use it in anyway. All the rounds were close brown won solely on takedowns. But faber was able to get up with ease everytime. He would give up his back then get up everytime. How could u say that was domination. Do you say gsp dominated penn in the first fight in the last 2 rounds? Yea he took penn down but penn got up quick. Standup was even in this fight with faber having 2 bummed hands. He used his speed and angles good so brown couldnt land very much. His right jab would of been very important but he couldnt use it. With the cut on brown’s face. Whoever says dominatio i dont know what fight you were watching. That was close every round was. Brown got the edge because u get more points for takedowns then getting up from takedowns. If faber had that right jab that right eye would of been shut.

by desperus on Jun 8, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions

I believe Faber is the better fighter, there first fight he got caught, 2nd fight his hand was broken in half. What can you say besides bad luck for Uriah both times he has faught Brown, that said Brown is worthy of the title I just think Faber got a little unlucky in both fights.

by the spyder on Jun 8, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions

Faber is the better fighter. Brown was gassing while Faber had a broken hand. If he’s healthy and pushes the pace the way he normally does in fights I don’t think Brown would have gotten the W. Faber is the better all-round fighter, period.

by KS on Jun 8, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions

brown clearly won the fight but i gave faber the 1st round, he scored what was really the only effective strike of the fight in the first, had brown wobbled. he might not have been able to mount much offense after but considering his gameplan was to work the outside with strikes and speed the fight went as well as he could have expected. two or three quality wins after rehab and i could see a third match. and also don’t forget about fabiano, he’s got some pretty serious skills

by kmoney on Jun 8, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions

I agree with most of the posts here…..Faber has been extremely unlucky twice now. I’m not taking anything away from Brown, he’s a tough bastard, and deserving of the belt. Again, just my opinion, but i think Faber is a much better fighter, and deserves another shot. Maybe not his first fight back, but i still feel he’s the best 145er in the WEC. If the roles were reversed, and Brown had the broken hand, i’d bet everything i have that last night’s fight doesn’t get near the scorecards. Faber would’ve polished him off by the 3rd or 4th round. The fact that he went 4 rounds with a shattered hand speaks volumes to this kid’s talent. Having said that, Brown’s a tough cat, and i don’t mean to take anything away from him….i’m just saying that in this particular case, i think a 3rd fight is warranted.

by kg on Jun 8, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions